Twitter Says You Cannot Tweet That You Hope Trump Dies From COVID-19 308
Twitter told Motherboard that it will suspend people who openly hope Trump dies from the coronavirus, which he recently tested positive for and, as a result, was moved to Walter Reed hospital "out of an abundance of caution." Twitter referred to an "abusive behavior" rule that's been on the books since April. From the report: "Content that wishes, hopes or expresses a desire for death, serious bodily harm or fatal disease against an individual is against our rules," Twitter said in a statement. This rule will apparently apply to people who wish death on Trump, who is the single most powerful person in the world.
As Motherboard has previously reported, Facebook has different rules for speech that is focused on celebrities and public figures. Facebook says it "distinguish[es] between public figures and private individuals because we want to allow discussion, which often includes critical commentary of people who are featured in the news or who have a large public audience. For public figures, we remove attacks that are severe as well as certain attacks where the public figure is directly tagged in the post or comment." What this means is that it's OK to post on Facebook that you hope Trump dies, so long as you do not tag him in the post or "purposefully expose" him to "calls for death, serious disease, epidemic disease, or disability." Twitter makes no such distinction between public and private figures. With that said, Twitter said that it "won't take enforcement action on every tweet. We're prioritizing the removal of content when it has a clear call to action that could potentially cause real-world harm."
As Motherboard has previously reported, Facebook has different rules for speech that is focused on celebrities and public figures. Facebook says it "distinguish[es] between public figures and private individuals because we want to allow discussion, which often includes critical commentary of people who are featured in the news or who have a large public audience. For public figures, we remove attacks that are severe as well as certain attacks where the public figure is directly tagged in the post or comment." What this means is that it's OK to post on Facebook that you hope Trump dies, so long as you do not tag him in the post or "purposefully expose" him to "calls for death, serious disease, epidemic disease, or disability." Twitter makes no such distinction between public and private figures. With that said, Twitter said that it "won't take enforcement action on every tweet. We're prioritizing the removal of content when it has a clear call to action that could potentially cause real-world harm."
Tell that to climate scientists (Score:4, Insightful)
There are a number of prominent climate scientists that get right wing Proud Boy terrorists sending them death threats on each and every one of their tweets. Social media rules only go one way.
Re:Tell that to climate scientists (Score:4, Interesting)
IANAL, but I believe there's a legal distinction between death threats and mere wishes.
"I hope you die" protected speech.
"If you don't stop saying that, I'm going to kill you". NOT protected speech.
For an example of things that Twitter is not required to publish, see this entire post. The 1A doesn't prohibit entities such as Twitter from having content guidelines. It prevents the government from doing so, and even that is not absolute as demonstrated by various obscenity cases, the "fighting words" doctrine and a few other things. In the USA though, speech is indeed very liberal. SCOTUS doesn't take 1A lightly, that's for sure.
Re:Tell that to climate scientists (Score:4, Insightful)
For a great example look at the full page ad Trump took out, demanding the death penalty for those innocent kids. Perfectly legal.
Twitter is protecting Trump from what he did to children.
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Because the one hispanic that runs Proud Boys gets to vote for all hispanics.
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Re:Tell that to climate scientists (Score:5, Insightful)
Proud Boys enjoy your ignorance, since they are run by a dark skinned Hispanic dude. And yes, Hispanics pay attention to idiots like you and vote accordingly. So please keep it up. You're gonna wonder why Hispanics don't vote for Biden, it is because of people like you.
I've met Hispanic-Americans who consider themselves "true" Americans yet are fiercely anti-immigration, pro-gun, conservative in their ideals and suspicious of minorities to the point of being racist towards black people and even other Hispanics.
Being of a certain race really certainly doesn't inoculate from being a bigoted idiot.
Be oblique (Score:5, Funny)
I hope that Fat Donnie from Queens experiences life in a manner similar to Yuri Andropov
Covid-19, Stand Back and Stand By (Score:2)
Re: Covid-19, Stand Back and Stand By (Score:2)
Are there normal problems?
I don't necessarily hope he dies (Score:5, Insightful)
I hope he leads, follows, or gets out of the way.
If he's not going to provide leadership, he should go.
How he goes has been up to him. He's the one who's chosen to act like Covid doesn't exist.
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Well said.
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Trump is not the most powerful person (Score:3)
Never has been. Not even close. He is hemmed in by a system that has been carefully designed to ensure that he is not the most powerful person in the world.
The most powerful person is obviously Xi Jinping. Followed at some distance by Putin. And then maybe Modi.
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Even Xi Jinping have people he has to report to, the ol "rules for rulers".
Key people give you power, but if you go against em, you get replaced.
No one have Freeza level of powers on this planet fortunately.
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So we should hope they die too?
Re:Trump is not the most powerful person (Score:5, Insightful)
Strange, none of you said that when Obama was president. You guys blamed him for everything remember? I mean even Trump said Obama was responsible for every swine flu and ebola death (though no Americans died of Ebola acquired in the US). Now suddenly the presidency is powerless? Yet somehow he was taking credit for the 2019 economy and sleeping with Kim Jong Un? Credit Yes, Debit No?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Re:Trump is not the most powerful person (Score:4, Funny)
First place: The General Secretary of the Central Committee of Antifa.
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I mean, come on. This has little to do with any Constitutional Powers and checks and balances (which he has shown largely to be imaginary anyways). It's a cult.
I hope (Score:3, Interesting)
That he gets sick enough to have this be a transformative experience for him and he becomes a nicer person.
That his youngest kid still has a father.
That his getting sick saves other people's lives.
That whoever at Twitter who thinks they can tell me what I'm allowed to hope for also gets really sick.
I'm against the death penalty for murderers so I'm not going to hope the president dies just because he's a jackass and had getting sick from this coming to him.
Re:I hope (Score:4, Insightful)
I mean, I hope he gets really really sick, pulls through, perhaps with obvious but not crippling aftereffects. and convinces some of his death cult that this isn't a joke and it should be taken seriously.
Especially since if he dies before noon on January 20, 2021, we end up with apocalypse fetishist Mike Pence as president.
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So basically, the Boris Johnson model? =)
Re: I hope (Score:2)
But if he dies before the election day? Will the alternative on the ballot be valid then?
Nobody seems to be able to answer that.
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Yes, almost certainly not. When the Access Hollywood tape came out and some Republicans said they didn't care about something he said 20 years ago I said 20 years ago he was 50. We aren't talking about something he said in high school. This is who he is.
But I try to believe that people are always capable of change. You just can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped. The man is a pretty pathetic figure and I would feel sorry for him if he wasn't inflicting himself on the whole planet.
As
Twitter Backs down (Score:4, Interesting)
Hope and change (Score:2)
How far "social media" has fallen over the course of just the last four years going from free speech advocates to dictators best friend for life.
What about (Score:5, Funny)
- I hope he gets wrecked by the karma train
- Thoughts and prayers for the liberal hoax
- Looking forward to the bigliest after funeral party the world has ever known
- Over 200,000 dead and counting on him!
- The grim reaper just tweeted "Donald, Stand down and stand by"
- Congrats on beating the 99.9....% odds, keep going!
- Walter Reed just told us they're out of demon sperm, we're working to fluff Moscow Mitch but it's not looking good for you....
- Better hope your nurse isn't loading that IV with bleach
- I hope your supervising attendant Dr. Freeman, your immunologist Dr. Chang and your cardiologist Dr. Ortega aren't holding any grudges
- Tiffany called, she wanted to thank you for writing her into the will at 100% of the estate, she's redecorating already.
Re:What about (Score:5, Funny)
Donald has had breathing issues until a nurse took the pillow off his face
Donald is being looked after by a proctologist... you know, someone that specialises in assholes
Donald is the first to trial a new treatment, the other lab primates refused it.
Conversation in heaven "Hey Death you botched it with the brother, now remember this one goes down, I don't want him here he already thinks he's me..."
Boxed into a corner (Score:5, Insightful)
Twitters double standards got exposed in a way that couldn't be swept under the carpet anymore. This one was simply too big to continue to let go, too many famous people virtue signaling for his death to be ignored. Don't worry, they will go back to their normal double standards when it is something less blatant like a wishing for genocide, rape or murder of people that aren't world leaders.
Re:Boxed into a corner (Score:4, Insightful)
Telling laid off coal workers to learn to code was just fine. Telling that to journalists was “hate speech”.
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I've reported literal child pornography on Twitter and it didn't get removed until I sent a message to the FBI a fortnight later. Meanwhile me saying "Supporting Greta while you cannot name a single climatologist shows your hypocrisy" was acted upon within an hour.
Fuck twitter. Social media sites need to be forced by law to apply their rules evenly.
Tribal barbarians (Score:2)
Come on now... (Score:5, Funny)
Despite any personal or political differences, we should all endeavor to show the Trump family the same amount of sympathy and respect that they showed the McCain family.
McCain and Ginsburg = chopped liver? (Score:5, Insightful)
When John McCain died a lot of popular right wing Trump-endorsed nutcases such as Michael Savage and Alex Jones expressed happiness. They did they same thing when Ted Kennedy and Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. Now the right wing takes when fringe leftists are saying and claiming it's the mainstream view of the left. If you go on any right wing forums you'll find plenty of nuts spewing worse and more vicious venom at liberals.
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I'm not a fringe leftist and I wouldn't be upset if karma punched his ticket.
Re: McCain and Ginsburg = chopped liver? (Score:3, Insightful)
So, just because others are assholes, you feel it is the right and proper thing to jump on the asshole train and join them.
That or you could realize that you are about to be just as big an asshole and step back.
How about (Score:2)
Guess I'll do it here then.
Chance to see people the real way (Score:2, Interesting)
Those people who wish our President dead, you're traitors. I'm not implying, I'm calling you traitors to your face. If you don'
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If you don't live in the US, I really don't care because your opinion is irrelevant.
Wow. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that an uneducated American would espouse an opinion like that. The rest of us never realized that many of you see yourselves as the center of the universe. Headline news!
Anyway, I’m curious. I’m an American, but I moved to a first world country. Does my opinion matter?
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I hate the guts of him, for he is not stupid just vile.
But you are right - I do not wish him death, just a 4 weeks serious illness from which I hope he fully recovers (esp mentally) to face election fallout.
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My wish is he ceases being President.
He's an extremely toxic person.
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Personally, I just want it to get bad enough to scare some reality into him (and some humility, but that may be too much to hope for), followed by recovery. Thousands of lives may depend on that happening.
2 faced twitter (Score:2)
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You are to harsh. Tweeter is here to make everybody happy, right?
Is it limited to death? (Score:4, Funny)
Can I tweet the wish he further progress in his retardation? Oh...wait, that may not be possible, eh?
Actually, I hope he is fine and dandy, after a prolong debilitating illness (say 4 weeks please?).
WTF? (Score:2)
"... Trump, who is the single most powerful person in the world.
Dear Gods, someone didn't just drink the Kool Aid, they had a full transfusion of it. ... And then they took a bath in it as well
Let people show us who they really are (Score:2)
I understand blocking threats, but beyond that let people speak, using their REAL name. Let us all see the content of their character.
He's a loser. (Score:5, Funny)
Sad (Score:2)
It's rather telling of a society when you have to implement rules like this in the first place.
I don't want Trump to die (Score:2)
What if... (Score:3, Interesting)
What if one were to say they hoped every republican that attended the super spreader supreme court nomination event, the one where no one was wearing masks, no social distancing, lots of handshakes and hugs, what if one were to say that they all needed to be visited by karma and apparently she's already come knocking...
If you don't single out the Prez as the only stupid one, would twitter be okay with that?
Why would liberals want this? (Score:5, Interesting)
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The counter to your analogy is how all that money helped Epstein.
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I agree. If Trump dies or is rendered incapacitated, that reliable 40% drops dramatically. Pence may be a normal candidate in political terms, but he doesn't command the loyalty of the Republican base like Trump does. Pence's relative "ordinariness" would be his Achille's Heel.
I don't want him to die (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not a Trump supporter, not in the slightest, in fact his supporters will likely be spitting rage and label me a very dirty commie, marxist, socialist idiot after the've read this.
No, not because I'm a nice person either.
I know I'm not. I want him to suffer in great distress on a ventilator for weeks, right until the point he is humiliated at the polls. Then I want him to recover and live long enough to face trial. To know that he is a huge loser who will stand as warning for generations to come that his experiment with new age fascism [wikipedia.org] is abject failure. I know what Fascism is, my grandfather, a WW2 veteran that fought fascism made sure I knew true fascism when when I saw it.
Then and only then will I be content, only then will I smile knowing justice has been served.
hoping for death is wrong (Score:4, Funny)
It's wrong to hope for Trump to die from covid-19. No matter the delicious irony, it's very very naughty to hope that.
Instead, you should pray that he dies. That's not hope, that's a sincere expression of your religious belief, and it would be religious discrimination to deny you the right to use religious belief to bypass company policies - or even laws - that you don't like.
Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Insightful)
You're allowed to think it but nobody's required to publish it for you.
Seriously though: What about all the people who've lost family thanks to Trumps handling of this? Don't they get a free pass?
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Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Informative)
FEB 26
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump
Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Informative)
Just to amplify a bit:
January20: "I know more about viruses than anyone."
January 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. It's going to be just fine."
January 22: “We do have a plan and we think it’s gonna be handled very well, we’ve already handled it very well.”
February 7 (to Bob Woodward in private): “You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed. And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.”
February 7 (to Bob Woodward in private): “This is deadly stuff.”
February 22: "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
February 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.”
February 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA... Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
February 25: "CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus."
February 25: "I think that's a problem that's going to go away... They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we're very close to a vaccine."
February 26: "The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero."
February 26: "We're going very substantially down, not up."
February 27: "One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear."
February 28: "We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be
ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical."
March 2: "You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?"
March 2: "A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they're happening very rapidly."
March 4: "If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work â" some of them go to work, but they get better."
March 5: "I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work."
March 5: "The United States has, as of now, only 129 cases and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!"
March 6: "I think we're doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down; a tremendous job at keeping it down."
March 6: "Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They're there. And the tests are beautiful... the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good."
March 6: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it... Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."
March 6: "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault."
March 8: "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus."
March 9: "This blindsided the world."
March 9: “Just stay calm. It will go away.”
March 13: "National emergency, two big words."
March 13: "When you compare what we've done to other areas of the world, it's pretty incredible."
March 13: "Five million (tests) within a month... I doubt we'll need anything near that."
March 13: "I don't take responsibility at all."
March 14. "It's something that nobody expected at all, it's one of those things that happened. It's nobody's fault."
March 15: "This is a very contagious virus. It's incredible. But it's something that we have tremendous control over"
March 17: "I have always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I've felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic... I've always viewed it as very serious."
March 18 - "It’s not racist at all. No. Not at all. It comes from Chin
how many indeed (Score:3)
Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Informative)
But to say Trump handled this better than any other leader in the western world is disingenuous and frankly a low bar.
For starters, he has marginalized his own scientists and often makes statements that contradict their expert advice. His refusal to wear a mask has only empowered certain groups within the country who refuse to believe in the science.
Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Informative)
What about all the people who've lost family thanks to Trumps handling of this? Don't they get a free pass?
You are an idiot. Trump handled this better than almost any other leader in the western world.
If you really believe that you are the idiot.
On top of it, Trump can't do anything at the state level
By far the majority of the US states are run by the Republican party, Trump's party, and their state assemblies are mostly also run by Trump's party so unless you are implying that Trump does not have control over the Republican party, he very much can control what most of the states do about Covid.
So, go do some research to understand the distribution of powers in your own country and stop blaming Trump for for democrat negligence at the state level.
Really? Six out of the ten most Covid riddled US states are Trump states:
California (D)
Texas (R)
Florida (R)
New York (D)
Georgia (R)
Illinois (D)
Arizona (R)
North Carolina (R)
New Jersey (D)
Tennessee (R)
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You are an idiot. Trump handled this better than almost any other leader in the western world.
I didn't see Angela Merkel on TV saying we should try injecting bleach and shine UV lights up our asses.
Oh, wait, she has a degree in Chemistry.
What should Trump have done? Wear a mask on TV as an example to follow, listen to his scientific advisers, above all: Get his head out of Wall Street's ass and worry about the people instead of the Dow Jones index (which is an artificial number at best).
Re: Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:3)
Not bleach but disinfectant.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/wo... [bbc.com]
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The way Trump said it was much worse.
(Because he actually believed it, and thought he was being smart by saying it to a doctor on live TV hoping to get credit for inventing a miracle cure).
Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:5, Insightful)
Why is everyone so fucking stupid ...
Everyone isn't stupid and I assume you aren't either.
However, you do sound ignorant.
"Free speech," as in the 1st amendment, is a limit on the federal government.
Twitter is a private business.
Go look at the binding contract you agreed to when you signed up.
Also get a clue that if Twitter puts a sock in your mouth, the only consequence is that you lose access to a free platform.
You will not be charged or served a warrant or jailed or have a court date or be fined.
CaptanDork's 13th Corollary: "The only right you have at Twitter is to leave."
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You can pretend to be in denial, but you know better.
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So what country DOES have freedom of speech that I can move to? (Yes. I ended the sentence with a preposition without an object)
Almost any dictatorship. In almost any dictatorship, you can force companies to distribute your political propaganda....
SMH.
You don't. Don't have freedom to force me to speak (Score:4, Insightful)
> You either have freedom of speech or you don't. There is no gray area even though dumb asses keep trying to change it because they heard something they didn't like.
You don't have free speech on Twitter. Either you do or you don't, and - you don't. Twitter doesn't have to publish crazy nif they don't want to. Simple enough?
> So what country DOES have freedom of speech that I can move to?
In no country can I force you to publish my thoughts. Unless, of course, I'm a dictator. In North Korea you could force Twitter to publish whatever you want, if you're Kim Jong-un.
> (Yes. I ended the sentence with a preposition without an object)
The object is "which country". "I can move _to_ which country"".
What you didn't do is form a sentence with a preposition thrown on the end that truly has no object. If you had, the sentence wouldn't change by removing the preposition:
Where is the bathroom at?
Where is the bathroom?
We can tell "at" actually refers to nothing, has no object, because deleting it from the sentence works just fine, with no change in meaning.
What time is the meeting at?
What time is the meeting?
What is the topic of the course about?
What is the topic of the course?
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(Yes. I ended the sentence with a preposition without an object)
This is a disregard for the rules of grammar up with which we will not put! ;)
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Assuming you're an American, you might want to move then. US law does not contain any such thing.
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Re: Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:2)
There's today more power in the companies than the governments.
The world of Max Headroom is here.
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>Which is total bullshit. Fuck exemptions
So Twitter should not be allowed to control the content that appears on their own website?
How is not being able to control your own speech "Free Speech"?
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Dude.
The answer to first question... NO
The answer to second question.... Twitter isn't a human. The person posting is the one using free speech. The website or piece of paper or pulpit is just an inanimate object to proliferate the speech.
What have you folks been smoking?
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Maybe you should try actually reading these amendments. I’ll get you started. Congress shall make no law...
Re: Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:3)
It's not an exception. That bit you quoted, see the word GOVERNMENT in there?
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I wish.
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It's not really 2 sets of rules tho...
A corporation is merely an entity owned by a collection of individuals, those individuals have the same rights of free speech as anyone else. That includes the right to not carry speech they disagree with on their privately owned platform.
It's exactly the same right which means noone can force you to make public statements which are contrary to whatever beliefs you have.
Don't rely on someone else to speak for you, they might not agree with you and might not pass on your
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Get yourself a website. It's cheap. Use a CMS. Then you can have RSS.
Re: Free Speech Is Free Speech (Score:3)
GOVERNMENT
When it says Twitter then you have a point.
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And the government regulates all American corporations.
You really need to give it up. No one will change my mind because right is right. No laws needed in reality, but humans are so weak they gotta have some group of assholes telling them what to do, whether its a church or a government or a club etc. Sad.
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fyi, NOT a trump fan, but really feel that any attempt to voice satisfaction over the current situation is un-American, plainly tasteless and only feeds the hatred of his followers
afaik, he is holed up in a vip room at the hospital and gloating over getting out of further debasement in the 2nd debate, voicing a list of grievances and chucking back hamberders whilst figuring out how to take advantage of the situation
my sole source of concern is the lack of tweets
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I like presidents that don't get covid. Presidents that get covid are looosers.
Free Speech is not consequence Free Speech (Score:2, Informative)
Also Freedom of Association is still a thing, and Twitter is still a private company. The government cannot order them to remove most things. They however can.
If you don't like it, start a twitter competitor. Micro blogging isn't patentable so they can't sue you. There's nothing stopping you except you.
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You can't say whatever you want in someone elses house without being asked to leave.
It's Twitter's site and it's their resources, if you don't like it setup your own site.
Stop confusing what free speech means with thinking you can say whatever you want to anyone without repercussion. The 1st amendment protects you from the government, not from people thinking your a fucking idiot and refusing to associate with you.
Or do you believe that the right to freedom of association is void and Twitter should be FORCE
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I don't care if they don't associate with me. I am still going to say what I want and everyone can fuck off. Kill me for it. I don't give a fuck. Gotta die sometime, might as well do it for the right reason.
My 'bullshit' as you put it is a straw man. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it ain't no good.
You dont have to read or listen to it. You have legs or a remote control. Use it. Don't cry like a little bitch.
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I have legs and a remote control--but what good are those when zenlessyank can force his message onto every surface and platform capable of carrying one? I'm tired of seeing your sophomoric posts, and I'm not even to the bottom of the thread.
As it stands, you can say almost whatever you want, and you can almost never force others to say it for you.
If you don't like it, the only thing you can do is stay in this thread, and keep posing the same circular reasoning in absolute terms, over and over. Literally, i
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I didn't force anything. I merely expressed my opinion with no gun loaded to your head to read it or accept it.
Maybe you should re-evaluate your dilemma.
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It isn't. It's controlled speech on a privately owned platform.
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The constitution of the US never gives a blanket free speech for all rule. It is only about the government not allowing to restrict speech. But even then the courts and allowed exceptions, such as speech that causes harm can be restricted. Your freedom to speak stops when it infringes upon someone else's rights.
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Same stupid-ass arguments over and over and over again
You sure you don't want to bring up 'pro-life / pro-choice', whether non-white people are the same 'species' as white people, and what is and is not 'pornography'?
I mean, since you're insisting on bringing up 'arguments' that literally have no end and will NEVER be resolved? May as well just roll them into one big dumpster-fire of a """discussion""" thread, so everyone loses their minds all at once.
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Maybe your lust for power and control needs to be burned off.
No ones OWNS a pulpit. Else it wouldn't be a pulpit.
Man, the sickness is much deeper than I thought.
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You can say what the fuck you want but if you're using my pulpit and my microphone to fucking say it I can fucking kick you off my platform if I don't fucking like what you're fucking saying.
Plus by allowing you to use my pulpit I'm giving the implication that I approve of or at least tolerate what you're saying, since the fact that I don't have to in the first place means that I'm making a choice to do so.
My lack of exercise of my right to refuse service is a valid, if passive, approval.
Moreover your decision to refuse service or not is a prima facie exercise of your right to free speech. Denying you the right to say, "No, this is not okay, and I will not let you use a platform that I own while saying it" would be an abridgment of your rights to freedom of speech and freedom of expression.
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... the single most powerful person in the USA.
FTFY.
At least Trump left a few checks and balances standing. Not so comrade Xi, who is much more powerful.
As long as you consider being scared of a cartoon bear a sign of power...
Re:Only Enforced Against Conservatives (Score:4, Interesting)
Twatter is an un-American medium, and I hope the government shuts them down.
It amorally does whatever it thinks will maximise profit (buy maximizing users and so advertising revenue). It's the result of the unfettered free market in action. What could be more American than that?
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I hope he recovers quickly for a lot of reasons.
Speaking from the UK here.
The most likely outcome if Trump is unable to perform his presidential duties is that Mike Pence may be elected president. Be careful what you wish for.
I looked up Mike Pence on Wikipedia. He describes himself as "Christian, conservative, Republican, in that order". His particular brand of conservative Christianity would be classed as extremism by many on this side of the pond. There is also the problem that he would be leading a country whose people have very diverse and often str
Re:Lots of divisive B.S. to go around lately .... (Score:4, Insightful)
In answer, not it isn't moral, and certainly not ethical. This is why medics don't kill people they don't like on operating tables.
No, that's absolutely not why. They don't because healing people is their job, and you can't trust people with that job unless they're serious about doing it. It's wrong to exercise that power when people are trusting you, and your whole life is based upon that trust.
It's fairly obvious from the speeches that Mr. T has been trying to make speeches to avoid panic.
It's obvious to me that Trump has been making speeches to downplay things that make him look bad. His entire history demonstrates that he doesn't give two fucks about anyone but himself, so I don't have to imagine that he's trying to avoid panic because it might harm people. He's doing it because it will interfere with his popularity. But if people were more worried, they would behave more safely, and we'd have a lot less dead. Trump's concern for his ratings is killing people. Defending it is helping him kill people. Don't help Trump kill people.
Also, Mr. T is cool, and a badass. Trump is neither.