Neuralink Implants Third Brain Chip. Plans '20 or 30' This Year, Eventually 'Blindsight' Devices (yahoo.com) 67
"Neuralink Corp.'s brain-computer device has been implanted in a third patient," reports Bloomberg, "and the company has plans for about 20 to 30 more implants in 2025, founder Elon Musk said."
In an interview streamed on X.com, Musk says "We've got now three humans with Neuralinks implanted and they're all working well," according to The Times of India: "We upgraded the devices, they'll have more electrodes, basically higher bandwidth, longer battery life and everything. So, expect 20 or 30 patients this year with the upgraded Neuralink devices...."
"[O]ur next part will be Blindsight devices where even if somebody has lost both eyes or has lost the optic nerve, we can interface directly with the visual cortex in the brain and enable them to see. We already have that working in monkeys," Musk added.
In an interview streamed on X.com, Musk says "We've got now three humans with Neuralinks implanted and they're all working well," according to The Times of India: "We upgraded the devices, they'll have more electrodes, basically higher bandwidth, longer battery life and everything. So, expect 20 or 30 patients this year with the upgraded Neuralink devices...."
"[O]ur next part will be Blindsight devices where even if somebody has lost both eyes or has lost the optic nerve, we can interface directly with the visual cortex in the brain and enable them to see. We already have that working in monkeys," Musk added.
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Who else wants to see it fail because Elon?
Count me in.
At this point, even if Musk invented a cure for cancer, I'd be dead set again it. I wish ill to any venture that increases Musk's wealth and influence. The man is a supreme danger to this country, to democracy in general and to world peace.
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Who else wants to see it fail because Elon?
Count me in.
At this point, even if Musk invented a cure for cancer, I'd be dead set again it. I wish ill to any venture that increases Musk's wealth and influence. The man is a supreme danger to this country, to democracy in general and to world peace.
I'm cautions but optimistic, it's an interesting line of research but needs to be taken slowly... however I wouldn't want to let anyone like Elon Musk, Ketamine or no, anywhere near my brain. His attachment to reality was tenuous at best... he's gone completely off the rails in the last few years though.
Re:Come on, let's hear it (Score:4, Interesting)
The man is a supreme danger to this country,
how exactly? sincerely asking, how do you picture this danger?
to democracy in general
tbf democracy was already a joke and broken at many levels, particularly by subversion of social contract by the elites in general. histrionic figures emerging like trump, blinken, sullivan, adelsson, etc, etc and even musk are just symptoms of that.
and to world peace.
i don't see any connection from musk as a precursor to any of the current wars which are indeed a serious threat to world peace. he did accept to support us' agenda by providing starlink service, but that's pretty much it? i wouldn't trust him with anything, but how is he a particular menace to world peace, what would he do that many others haven't done already or are doing right now?
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tbf democracy was already a joke and broken at many levels, particularly by subversion of social contract by the elites in general
Remember "Democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried". Musk is messing about with far-right political parties in Europe (talks of funding and support), I suppose looking for fertile ground for his business endeavours, approaching politicians aligned to current USA's right-leaning policies. If you don't see any connection to world peace, it's on you.
Re: Come on, let's hear it (Score:2)
Does anyone have a viable motive for his entanglement in British, German, Italian, and USA politics? What is his agenda? Why does he even need to get involved with politics? All I can see is that he has tried to bore tunnels and has been road blocked. If the tunnel machines are ready, I imagine he will want to deploy hundreds or thousands of them and governments of any party will get in the way. So he is going to seize small and inherently weak parties and reshape them i.e. manipulate voters into drasticall
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Since nobody has been able or willing to answer your question, I'll posit an answer.
"Elon is so evil that I wouldn't even accept a cure for cancer if he funded the research, because..."
A. Mean tweets directed at progressive ideologues
B. He bought Twitter, restored Trump's account, and released the Twitter files.
C. He's trying to affect politics in Europe, and this just HAS to be evil.
D. Provide
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It's funny to see a Musk fan boy try to frame the debate about whether Musk is good guy or not by leaving out the primary reason Musk is a piece of shit. He's a racist https://www.theguardian.com/te... [theguardian.com] . Not only has he verified this with his own comments but he's seen fit to open X up to all the racist under the guise of "free speech" while censoring posts that he has personal issues with.
Funny that the posts he has issues with aren't the racist ones, right?
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You do realize that if you read more than that one section you'll see him agreeing with a post pushing White Replacement Theory https://www.ajc.org/translateh... [ajc.org] , right?
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"A tweet posted by @breakingbaht on Wednesday night read: “Jewish communties [sic] have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.”
The billionaire owner and CTO of X, formerly Twitter, responded the same evening: “You have said the actual truth.” "
The above comment is basically white replacement theory. And no, pretending the ADL is racist as he does later doesnt make this all go away. As the article poi
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Hmm. That's an interesting interpretation, but it's a stretch. And, your "basically" qualifier would seem to indicate you're not exactly sure yourself.
Elon was critical of the ADL in another tweet [x.com], where he called them out for being hyper-sensitive and wanting to censor tweets that they deemed anti-Semitic. The ADL is important and is, rightly so, monitoring an identifying trends of antisemitism in Western culture. But, that does not mean they're
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Elon was critical of the ADL in another tweet [x.com], where he called them out for being hyper-sensitive and wanting to censor tweets that they deemed anti-Semitic. The ADL is important and is, rightly so, monitoring an identifying trends of antisemitism in Western culture. But, that does not mean they're always right about everything. And, if someone has a critique of something they've done, it does not make that person an anti-Semite.
If he was politely disagreeing with them you might have a point here. He's not though, he's actively trying to delegitimize them by claiming they are racist. Of course the ADL isnt perfect and different people will have different interpretations of where those imperfection lie but to call an organization like that racist? Obviously his aims arent honest.
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Nope, you're being willfully ignorant. Spelled it out for you.
On Thursday morning, Musk continued on the same tear about the white race. He approved of a tweet reading: “Everyone is allowed to be proud of their race, except for white people, because we’ve been brainwashed into believing that our history was some how ‘worse’ than other races. This false narrative must die.” Musk wrote: “Yeah, this is super messed up. Time for this nonsense to end and shame ANYONE who perpetuates these lies!” The tweet provoked immediate and strong backlash both on X and off. Tweets condemning Musk’s reply as a “white supremacist conspiracy theory” poured in while antisemitic support for him erupted simultaneously. The Atlantic published an essay lambasting Musk, titled “Elon Musk’s Disturbing ‘Truth’”, and the watchdog publication MediaMatters headlined its story on the topic “Elon Musk lights his tiki torch”, in reference to the infamous 2017 march by white supremacists at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville.
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Musk’s racial politics have been trending in this direction for months. In October, he wrote in response to a tweet mourning the melting down of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E Lee: “They absolutely want your extinction.” Replying to a tweet from @libsoftiktok, who he restored to X, which read: “Racism against white people is the only kind of discrimination that’s allowed,” Musk wrote last week: “It’s messed up and needs to stop.” Since taking over Twitter in October 2022, Musk has restored controversial conservative accounts while simultaneously banning journalists and penalizing accounts critical of him.
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You're going to need to stop spending all your money on Trump collectable plates and go get your eyes checked.
Nope, you're being willfully ignorant. Spelled it out for you.
On Thursday morning, Musk continued on the same tear about the white race. He approved of a tweet reading: “Everyone is allowed to be proud of their race, except for white people, because we’ve been brainwashed into believing that our history was some how ‘worse’ than other races. This false narrative must die.”
Musk wrote: “Yeah, this is super messed up. Time for this nonsense to end and shame ANYONE who perpetuates these lies!”
The tweet provoked immediate and strong backlash both on X and off. Tweets condemning Musk’s reply as a “white supremacist conspiracy theory” poured in while antisemitic support for him erupted simultaneously. The Atlantic published an essay lambasting Musk, titled “Elon Musk’s Disturbing ‘Truth’”, and the watchdog publication MediaMatters headlined its story on the topic “Elon Musk lights his tiki torch”, in reference to the infamous 2017 march by white supremacists at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville.
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Musk’s racial politics have been trending in this direction for months. In October, he wrote in response to a tweet mourning the melting down of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E Lee: “They absolutely want your extinction.” Replying to a tweet from @libsoftiktok, who he restored to X, which read: “Racism against white people is the only kind of discrimination that’s allowed,” Musk wrote last week: “It’s messed up and needs to stop.”
Since taking over Twitter in October 2022, Musk has restored controversial conservative accounts while simultaneously banning journalists and penalizing accounts critical of him.
All of those positions are anti-racist
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The conspiracy theory found support in Europe, and has also grown popular among anti-migrant and white nationalist movements from other parts of the West; many of their adherents maintain that "immigrants [are] flocking to predominantly white countries for the precise purpose of rendering the white population a minority within their own land or even causing the extinction of
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White supremacy is anti-racist?
Opposing anti-whiteness is anti-racist
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White supremacy is anti-racist?
Opposing anti-whiteness is anti-racist
You need to learn how to form a coherent sentence.
That's called white supremacy. They have clubs you can join the Ku Klux Klan or Trump's flavor, the Proud Boys.
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But supporting idiots like "Tommy Robinson" and the far right, like the AfD, is not the way to do that.
Supporting the centre-right is.
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i don't see any connection from musk as a precursor to any of the current wars which are indeed a serious threat to world peace.
That's goalpost moving isn't it? We said threat to world peace. Musk has already shown that he meddles with the technical capabilities for countries in conflict, while also supporting people pushing countries into conflict.
The fact that he didn't start any current war is completely irrelevant to him being a threat.
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We said threat to world peace.
"we" who? i'm not talking to a sect, am i?
Musk has already shown that he meddles with the technical capabilities for countries in conflict, while also supporting people pushing countries into conflict.
has he? can you provide concrete references?
my point was that there is a great deal of people who has "meddled with conflicts" and "pushed countries into conflict" lately, it's been a long time that the world and notably the west has no shortage of warmongers in influential positions and i can give a lengthy list of profuse examples about that if required, yet musk doesn't have a role in any of them. i'm not defending the guy, he may be a spoiled narcissist, he may
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Who else wants to see it fail because Elon?
Count me in.
At this point, even if Musk invented a cure for cancer, I'd be dead set again it..
If you or your kid were dying of cancer you would suddenly be all for it
Re: Come on, let's hear it (Score:2, Interesting)
I don't have a problem with "libs", as you put it, only progressives. Think like the poster above you -- that person is very illiberal. I don't even feel the need to respond to that guy, it's self-evident: People like that are much worse for democracy than people like Elon. You've got to be a pretty rotten person to be enraged at the fact that a tetraplegic now has a job as a camera operator because the technology behind it was funded by a guy you hate for purely ideological reasons.
I happened across an int
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Nice anecdote about one of the Bush ex presidents (not sure which one) and Michelle Obama, but I have no idea what the point is..
And:
Think like the poster above you -- that person is very illiberal.
ROFL. That... was you.
Re: Come on, let's hear it (Score:2)
posting about how great elon musk is
I didn't do that. You came up with that all on your own
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I'm pretty sure the point, as veiled in bad composition as it was, was that it's possible to separate the person from the politics. He was pointing out the irony that Michelle Obama and George W. Bush have a good enough acquaintance that they can enjoy each other's company as long as they're not talking about policy matters, where they will agree on precious few points.
It's possible to disagree without being disagreeable.
What he misses is that it takes both sides to agree to not being disagreeable - this i
Re: Come on, let's hear it (Score:2)
where they will agree on precious few points.
From the way they talk, they agree on everything but implementation.
What he misses is that it takes both sides to agree to not being disagreeable
It doesn't appear to be an "agree to disagree" matter between them. They speak as though they share the same broader humanitarian goals, just not how to get there.
- this is where MAGA falls down. Being disagreeable is the point.
That's not what happening here. Here we have a case of obviously good outcomes. For these guys it's not even a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, for these guys it's just "oh wait, a guy whose politics I don't share is involved, throw the whole thing out."
Re: Come on, let's hear it (Score:2)
That or your reading comprehension is shit, and you don't keep up with current events.
Pop quiz: Name all living former presidents. Let me know when you figure out where you went wrong.
Rambling, incoherent, and off-topic [Re: Come...] (Score:2)
Your reply post reminded me of that last part.
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Every internet forum went downhill from 2016.
Any comment on any issue is now preceded by "Let's see if the guy behind this is part of my team or not, then I can form an opinion."
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Since when has questioning the motives of a known asshole with delusions of grandeur and demonstrated disdain for humanity become a problem?
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Who else wants to see it fail because Elon?
Oh goody, please sign me up to a first generation brain implant SAID NO ONE EVER.
Re: Come on, let's hear it (Score:3)
Three signed up already.
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Musk being involved would be enough for me. Such an evil asshole.
But my take is that these will not last. The science is premature and just enough to do a demo for an unscrupulous egomaniac. Longer term, these are probably as safe as letting the Tesla "autopilot" drive. Hence failure will arrive all by itself. And no, you cannot make blind people see this way. This is purely reading of signals and for very good reasons.
Both can be true (Score:2)
The usual suspects like narcc, drinkypoo, rsilvergun have already spoken about how they want to see these implants fail because Elon is somehow involved. Who else wants to see it fail because Elon? This time the blind edition. Greenpeace wants more people to be blind because of their ideology too, so you'll be in good company.
Musk has undeniable accomplishments, but also a LOT of disappointments. Is this going to be starlink?...or is this going to be "the boring company?" The dude has HUGE ambition, but his follow-through and attention to detail are certainly lacking on some endeavors. Now let's flip this its head. I am not a car nor space guy, so I'll assume SpaceX and Tesla live up to the hype and from what I know Starlink does...does that mean this guy is a genius and his intellect will somehow achieve a better result in
Re: Both can be true (Score:2)
Comparing Musk to Jobs and Wozniak shows that you have an oversimplified understanding of all three men. Extremely different people whose only similarities are that they all changed the world with technology. But in terms of personality, leadership style, and life experience they are all very different from each other.
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( And I'm still totally impressed by Musk's brilliant engineering management and Job's sheer audacity. )
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You're wasting your time replying to a stupid lying fuckwit.
To wit, I never said I wanted neuralink to fail. What I said was that it WOULD fall, because the tech is fundamentally crap. Electrodes ALWAYS fail eventually. We've demonstrated stimulating the brain with photons, which is a better bet for putting data in. We've made big strides in processing the data which comes out without invasive measures, and that's a better approach in the long term since you can reasonably use it with anyone.
I do want Elon
Can they send you ads ... (Score:1)
... in your dreams [youtube.com] like in the 31st century?
Asking for a friend ... of a certain billionaire.
Working monkeys (Score:2, Informative)
"We already have that working in monkeys," Musk added
Future Trump cabinet picks.
more electrodes = more bandwidth? (Score:2)
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People say bandwidth when they mean datarate these days.
It's not appropriate in this specific case of a signals processing device.
I don't give my aunt grief when she's talking about her Comcast connrction, though.
Will they include advertisements? (Score:2)
Considering it's Musk, I suspect that if you get an implant to restore sight, it would then show advertising every 3-5 minutes.
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Considering it's Musk, I suspect that if you get an implant to restore sight, it would then show advertising every 3-5 minutes.
How do you figure?
Driven partially by the reduction in willing advertisers due to Musk's increasingly polarizing nature, Twitter is still strategically shifting their revenue stream focus away from advertising to users and to subscriptions.
Starlink is an Internet provider, one that is often the sole decent choice, for five million households. Prime position to inject advertising. Not doing so despite having been serving customers since 2020.
SpaceX? Don't see ads popping up during their launch livestream
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"Driven partially by the reduction in willing advertisers due to Musk's increasingly polarizing nature,"
And partially due to the fact that he told them to go fuck themselves...
Visionary (Score:2)
The man is a visionary. He did more for EVs than any other single person. He has done more space travel than any other single person. Neuralink may well revolutionize care for disabled people.
I really do not understand all the hate. You don't have yo agree with his politics. Just root for his achievements.
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I agree. But the major question is, has he fundamentally changed ideologically? Or is he manipulating voters with a long term vision to continue carrying out great achievements that are good for society?
One must acknowledge that there has been some bad with the good. Disturbing the view of the night sky globally. Is that just temporary or forever? Can technology fix that? Either way, has he changed ideologically since getting entangled in politics?
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His politics are probably similar to mine, i.e. Leftish but anti-woke hatred.
His actions based on his politics are demented, and make me fear for the future of our world.
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You do not understand the hate because you falsely attribute these things to him. He *bought his way* into an existing EV company and sued them in order to get his name listed as a founder. He called himself Chief Engineer at SpaceX despite not having the faintest clue about engineering. Musk threw money at a bunch of scientists who were already developing nerualink.
If you want to judge innovation by pocket book I think you'll find most banks are far more visionary than this man. The one thing Musk is truly
The patients love this and Elon Musk (Score:2)
Apparently all the patients / test subjects say this is great and they love Elon Musk. The worrying part is that they keep saying it in their sleep, "I... love... Elon...". Musk says this just a bug and it'll be "fixed" in the next iteration. They'll also be testing the effects of discontinuing the monthly Neuralink subscription fee and how it works in tunnels and other places w/o radio reception.
No thanks (Score:2)
I would rather be blind for the rest of my years than allow that man to control a chip implanted in my head.
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I would rather be blind for the rest of my years than allow that man to control a chip implanted in my head.
Easy to say. Much harder to live up to when blind. Personally I can't stand Elon, my GF says he has the worlds most punchable face. I tend to agree. But look what happens if the house we want to buy is so far from "civilization" that our only option for internet is Starlink. Watch how fast we start holding our noses while paying the bill each month. That would be hugely magnified when talking about sight.
" and they're all working well" - the humans? (Score:2)
The chips or the humans? Or... *now* the humans are "working well" ?