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Earth's 'Mini Moon' May Have Been a Chunk of Our Actual Moon (apnews.com) 32

An asteroid named 2024 PT5, recently exhibiting "mini moon" behavior around Earth, may have been a boulder that was blasted off the moon by an impacting, crater-forming asteroid," reports the Associated Press. The 33-foot space rock is expected to pass safely near Earth in January, when it will be closely observed. From the report: While not technically a moon -- NASA stresses it was never captured by Earth's gravity and fully in orbit -- it's "an interesting object" worthy of study. The astrophysicist brothers who identified the asteroid's "mini moon behavior," Raul and Carlos de la Fuente Marcos of Complutense University of Madrid, have collaborated with telescopes in the Canary Islands for hundreds of observations so far.

Currently more than 2 million miles (3.5 million kilometers) away, the object is too small and faint to see without a powerful telescope. It will pass as close as 1.1 million miles (1.8 million kilometers) of Earth in January, maintaining a safe distance before it zooms farther into the solar system while orbiting the sun, not to return until 2055. That's almost five times farther than the moon. [...] NASA will track the asteroid for more than a week in January using the Goldstone solar system radar antenna in California's Mojave Desert, part of the Deep Space Network.

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Earth's 'Mini Moon' May Have Been a Chunk of Our Actual Moon

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  • So what happens in 2055?

    • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @03:02AM (#64972863)

      So what happens in 2055?

      It will pass within a few million kilometers of Earth with a probability of less than 0.001% of impact.

      It's 10 meters in diameter with a mass of about 1500 tonnes.

      For comparison, the Chelyabinsk meteor was about 10,000 tonnes.

      TL;DR: This isn't something you need to worry about.

  • That's no moon....

  • Can someone explain why this asteroid, and any planet/moon/star etc orbit instead of just flying straight through space? Magnets only work over a short distance, why does gravity affect things so far away? And why does more mass = more gravity? A pool ball doesn't go into orbit around the ball its hit towards. I asked AI but it gave circular logic basically restating my question and not answering why.
    • Re:what is gravity? (Score:4, Informative)

      by Zarhan ( 415465 ) on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @04:55AM (#64972977)

      Well, to best of our knowledge, the effect we see as gravity is mass of objects causing curvature in space.

      The old analog is the bowling ball on bedsheet. Push a marble near the bowling ball and it no longer follows a straight line. Instead, it's trajectory got altered by the dimple. Continuing the analogy further, a black hole is a case where there is a hole at the bottom of the bend and stuff can fall straight through if they hit the center. But of course, if you stay far enough, it's still quite possible to orbit it.

      And even Newton figured out (the old apple-on-head story) is that yeah, Earth is attracting the apple, but it's also vice versa, it's just that Earth is significantly heavier. Moon does not actually orbit Earth, Earth and Moon orbit their center of gravity (which happens to be inside Earth).

      Anyway, the curvature of space is the best guess at this time, and that explanation seems to be accurate (since there are things like gravity waves that have been detected).

    • by vbdasc ( 146051 )

      Can someone explain why this asteroid, and any planet/moon/star etc orbit instead of just flying straight through space?

      An object can still fly straight through space relatively unperturbed, if its velocity is high enough. If not, then it's caught in some other object(s)' gravity well, and is orbiting.

      Magnets only work over a short distance, why does gravity affect things so far away?

      Magnetic forces' range, just like gravitational forces' range, is the entire universe. You might think that their range is finite, because both these forces weaken with distance.

      However, electromagnetic forces (unlike gravitation) exerted by different bodies can be both positive and negative, and over a large distance they stat

  • by cusco ( 717999 ) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `ybxib.nairb'> on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @09:51AM (#64973379)

    Unfortunately it's not in a horseshoe orbit, which would be cool. It's just randomly passing by, instead.

    Horseshoe orbits are semi-stable orbits that have a small object orbiting inside the orbit of a larger object. Since it's moving faster it eventually catches up to the larger object, whose gravity then slingshots it into a wider and thus slower orbit. Now the larger object is moving faster so it eventually catches up to the smaller one, and this time its gravity slows the smaller one down and it drops back into the smaller, faster orbit again. Wash, rinse, repeat. Earth has about a dozen objects in horseshoe orbits, but all of them are extremely small and none approach closely enough to be useful.

  • In our Ancient past, interpreted from Sumerian writing (not as first hand witnesses, but ancient stories passed down to them) a Moon of the planet Nibiru, had a glancing collision with earth, it could also come from that - if we want to start guessing about its origin.

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