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US Wins Math Olympiad For First Time In 21 Years (npr.org) 60
The United States has claimed victory at the International Mathematical Olympiad in Chiang Mai, Thailand, marking its first win in over two decades. The competition, which pitted top-ranked high school math students from more than 100 countries against each other, saw the U.S. team emerge triumphant after two days of intense problem-solving. NPR adds: The U.S. team last won the Olympiad in 1994. Reports in recent years have raised concerns that American math students are falling behind those in the rest of the world. But, Po-Shen Loh, a professor at Carnegie Mellon University and head coach for Team USA, says, "At least in this case with the Olympiads, we've been able to prove that our top Americans are certainly at the level of the top people from the other countries."
haha "americans"? (Score:2, Insightful)
Haha. I'll betchya dollars to donuts that most of the winners are children of Chinese or Indian immigrants.
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Genius, if you had bothered to click you'd see the faces and names. 4 of the 6 are looking pretty damned white.
How many dollars do you owe me now? 12?
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Genius, if you had bothered to click you'd see the faces and names. 4 of the 6 are looking pretty damned white.
How many dollars do you owe me now? 12?
This is what we get when the hatred of Americans and so called "white" people is so ingrained.
OP is doing a slow boil because he's quite racist in addition to being anti-American.
Despite the popular narrative, Americans are not stupid racists - our critics are quite often, however. And this winning really pisses them off.
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Oh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There is no "ingrained hatred of white people. That's just playing a non-existent victim.
The OP made an educated guess since both asian and indian people do occupy large portions of such competitions.
All you did was show white people are the biggest whiners around. There. There's your "hatred".
Re:haha "americans"? (Score:4, Insightful)
The OP made an educated guess since both asian and indian people do occupy large portions of such competitions.
Making an "educated guess" about an individual that presumes that people of certain racial backgrounds have certain characteristics is also known as "racism".
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The OP made an educated guess since both asian and indian people do occupy large portions of such competitions.
Making an "educated guess" about an individual that presumes that people of certain racial backgrounds have certain characteristics is also known as "racism".
Amazing that he went so far out of the way to support racism and show his personal racism in such an example that is proven wrong.
As I've noted so many times, race is a social construct, one that classifies people by the color of their skin and where they come from. Then classes them as "the other".
Note his use of race to attack what he consider's "White people": "All you did was show white people are the biggest whiners around. There. There's your "hatred"
I hate very few people - and no people by
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This is what we get when the hatred of Americans and so called "white" people is so ingrained.
Oh blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There is no "ingrained hatred of white people. That's just playing a non-existent victim.
Make no mistake about it my racist person - I'm not a victim and never will be.
And you think that your blah blahs negate this? Your intellect is that of a 3rd grade playgound bully.
The OP made an educated guess since both asian and indian people do occupy large portions of such competitions.
SO laziness and prejudice are being supported by you.
All you did was show white people are the biggest whiners around. There. There's your "hatred".
Frankly, and demostrably, race is the ultimate social construct, We are humans, and we can all reproduce with each other. We are no more different races than white or black horses are different races. When speciation happens, I'll admit there are different races.
This is not to say that there aren't a lot of racists in the wo
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Genius, if you had bothered to click you'd see the faces and names. 4 of the 6 are looking pretty damned white.
How many dollars do you owe me now? 12?
The members of the winning squad are Shyam Narayanan, David Stoner, Michael Kural, Ryan Alweiss, Yang Liu, and Allen Liu. So, one Indian name and two Chinese names.
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Oops, those names are from previous years. Serves me right for trusting the original post and its links.
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We can sort out the 12 bucks offline in either beer or donuts.
Re:haha "americans"? (Score:5, Interesting)
- Jordan Lefkowitz, 17 (Connecticut)
- Krishna Pothapragada, 18 (Illinois)
- Jessica Wan, 18 (Florida)
- Alexander Wang, 16 (New Jersey)
- Qiao (Tiger) Zhang, 16 (California)
- Linus Tang, 18 (California)
Jordan Lefkowitz is the only one that can be considered "white". The other are Indian and other Asian descent. Let's face it, Americans hate math and science. Even capable kids refuse to go into the field. They prefer business, marketing and other "soft" subjects when going to college. I know this from first hand experience.
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Re: haha "americans"? (Score:1)
There are some Indian parents that put their kids into cricket, soccer and baseball, but for the more spectacular sports, there is the issue of physical size and strength. Most of Asia has been very poor for very long while America/Europe has been very rich for very long, people from those countries have simply evolved to be/remain smaller in stature over the past 1000 years regardless of their current wealth to conserve energy and food. This was once the case in Europe too, in the Middle Ages, the average
Re: haha "americans"? (Score:1)
Re:haha "americans"? (Score:4, Informative)
Haha. I'll betchya dollars to donuts that most of the winners are children of Chinese or Indian immigrants.
You could always click on the link, to see if your claim is correct.
4 were what people could call "white", a "black" guy, an indeterminate guy, and a guy of likely Indian or Pakistani heritage.
So looks like your claim is busted.
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'So immigrants aren't Americans now?'
Aren't ALL Americans immigrants, besides Amerindians, which just came a bit earlier?
Re: haha "americans"? (Score:2)
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Math and science education is abysmal in US public schools and is not getting better. Instead we are lowering standards.
Re: haha "americans"? (Score:2)
Now what you _do_ need is that the normal school system recognises these kids and at least notifies someone so they can get more support.
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Racists are so predictable. (Score:1)
And if someone has Asian features, you'll probably just assume they're an immigrant or an immediate descendant of one, even if their ancestors came here before yours.
One thing's for sure: People like you will never be competitive in anything but embarrassing your fa
Ironic (Score:2)
Re:Ironic (Score:5, Funny)
The article didn't say the reporter won the math contest. :-)
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Programmers start counting at zero, not one. If the year range is "inclusive", then count with me . . .
1 - 1994
2 - 1995
3 - 1996
4 - 1997
5 - 1998
6 - 1999
7 - 2000
8 - 2001
9 - 2002
10 - 2003
11 - 2004
12 - 2005
13 - 2006
14 - 2007
15 - 2008
16 - 2009
17 - 2010
18 - 2011
19 - 2012
20 - 2013
21 - 2014
Re: Ironic (Score:4, Funny)
Re: Ironic (Score:2)
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So, question for Math Olympiad participants: "You are trapped in a hole too deep to climb out of and all you have is the shovel you dug it with. Devise a way to escape from the hole."
This is a valid math question because "math is all inclusive".
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It isn't, " last won", means we're measuring uniqueness or difference: Which is what most of Mathematics does.
It's human language that measures sameness, Eg., a profit for 2016-2019, means we have to include a point where 'nothing' happened (here, either 2015 or 2020) to get the mathematical answer: 2019-2015 = 4 years of profits.
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1994 to 2024 isn't "21 years".
Math is hard!
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"Math is hard!"
Let's go shopping!
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"Math is hard!"
Let's go shopping!
This one gets it!
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Article is dated May 8, 2015.
2015 - 1994 = 21.
The issue was never top-most talent. (Score:2)
Why the article points to a 2015 article? (Score:5, Insightful)
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No, it's not just you. That's why the win was said to be 21 years after 1994. Were the article from this year, we'd have expected it to say 30 years instead.
I know Slashdot is always a bit behind the latest, which is fine, but posting articles nearly a decade later is stretching the definition of "news".
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Probably the scraper bot got a link from somewhere and whoever decided to post it as news never bothered to read the article or check the date... or maybe some new AI something was used and it hallucinated and pointed to a 10 year old article.
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what, you think there's a tine limits on dupes around here?
why, there could be *dozens* by now!
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You are completely correct, but I checked the results from 2024 [imo-official.org] and it was won by USA. Best result since 2019, in which USA shared the first place with China.
USA won this year too (Score:4, Informative)
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The 2024 team won too (Score:3)
Here's the link to the 2024 win: https://maa.org/news/usa-first [maa.org]... [maa.org]
tfa is to the 2015 win.
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This is exactly what the US is supposed to be about. Get the brightest and the most driven people.
This was 2015 (Score:2)
This happened in 2015.
What is going on?
Re: This was 2015 (Score:2)
What is going on?
US of A seems past peak performance.
QED: https://www.edweek.org/leaders... [edweek.org] "Two Decades of Progress, Nearly Gone: National Math, Reading Scores Hit Historic Lows"
Re: This was 2015 (Score:2)
Re: Hmm ... (Score:2)
Math is a cross between art and law? (Score:2)
"Math is a cross between art and law. Law is about the reasoning and proving. And the art is because what we're trying to prove are statements that are somehow elegant," he says. "That's where the artist decides what is art."
Thus sayeth Head coach Po-Shen Loh
WTF? Law makes up the rules as it goes along. Art? No rules.
China didn't do their best this year (Score:1)
It's not so much US winning as China not doing their best. If you look at historical results there are years (like 2022) where China team scores maximum possible points, i.e. all 6 persons on the team score maximum points on all 6 problems.
This year they were not so good.
US is just doing the same as always. US only beat China by 2 points.
Meanwhile, in California (Score:2)
I wish I was joking.