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Potential Cancer Vaccine Entering Stage 3 Trials (go.com) 71

Slashdot reader quonset writes: After decades of study and testing, a potential vaccine for cancer may be on the horizon. Dr. Thomas Wagner, founder of Orbis Health Solutions, is using the body's own immune system to fight the disease, with each shot personalized to the patient, according to ABC News.
From the article: Typically, cancer cells evade a person's immune system because it is recognized as that person's cells. Wagner developed a tumor lysate particle only (TLPO) vaccine that uses a person's tumor cells to identify particular parts that are then presented back in the body using the vaccine in a way that can stimulate their immune system to gain the ability to detect these cancer cells like an infection, allowing the immune system to fight the cancer itself.

"People used to ask me the question, 'When will there be a cure for cancer?' And I've been doing this for 60 years and I could never answer that question," Wagner said. "Until recently, until the last three or four or five years." Wagner believes this type of cancer treatment could be a key to finding the long-awaited cure for cancer, all cancers, if paired with early detection.

Wagner's TLPO cancer vaccine has been tested in hundreds of patients with advanced forms of melanoma in Phase 2 clinical trials. The most recent data presented at an academic conference showed nearly 95% of people given only the vaccine were still alive three years after starting treatment and 64% were still disease-free. Among the most advanced forms of melanoma, disease-free survival after three years for people with stage III disease was 60% in the vaccine-only group, compared to about 39% in the placebo group. Disease-free survival for those with stage IV disease was about 68% in the vaccine-only group, and zero in the placebo group.

The most common side effects were redness or pain at the injection site, fever and fatigue after the injection – similar to other vaccines that stimulate an immune response.

Based on this data and other studies, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has greenlit Wagner's vaccine to start a Phase 3 clinical trial. It will be a three-year endeavor with a goal to enroll 500 people and is planned to launch sometime this year, Riley Polk, president of Orbis Health Solutions, told WLOS, an ABC News affiliate in Asheville, North Carolina.

Polk's own father was told there were no treatment options left for his lung cancer, according to the article. That was more than 10 years ago, and "His father opted to try Wagner's cancer vaccine and lived 10 more years before dying from something unrelated to cancer." Polk gives ABC News this quote.

"You can tell me a lot of things, but you can't tell me [the vaccine] doesn't work."
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  • I already have stage 4 cancer and don't expect to make it to 55 years old.

    So....yeah...no help here, thanks anyway.

    • Re:Too late (Score:4, Informative)

      by John Cavendish ( 6659408 ) on Sunday January 21, 2024 @08:25PM (#64177865)

      "I already have stage 4 cancer ..."
      I'm sorry to hear that.

      From the article:
      "... Based on this data and other studies, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has greenlit Wagner's vaccine to start a Phase 3 clinical trial. It will be a three-year endeavor with a goal to enroll 500 people and is planned to launch sometime this year, Riley Polk, president of Orbis Health Solutions, told WLOS, an ABC News affiliate in Asheville, North Carolina."

      Maybe you'd be able to enroll for this phase 3.

      • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        "I already have stage 4 cancer ..." I'm sorry to hear that.

        From the article: "... Based on this data and other studies, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has greenlit Wagner's vaccine to start a Phase 3 clinical trial. It will be a three-year endeavor with a goal to enroll 500 people and is planned to launch sometime this year, Riley Polk, president of Orbis Health Solutions, told WLOS, an ABC News affiliate in Asheville, North Carolina."

        Maybe you'd be able to enroll for this phase 3.

        Or get it on compassionate drug use grounds outside the scope of the trial.

        • I will try to check into it.

          I just finished the 3rd session of my current (third) round of chemotherapy. I have 3 more to go (basically six weeks). After that they will do another scan and decide:

          1). It's working, for now, keep doing it.

          2). It's not working. Here's your "one year or less to live" letter. You're welcome to try something else, clinical trials or whatever.

          Thanks.

          • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

            I will try to check into it.

            I just finished the 3rd session of my current (third) round of chemotherapy. I have 3 more to go (basically six weeks). After that they will do another scan and decide:

            1). It's working, for now, keep doing it.

            2). It's not working. Here's your "one year or less to live" letter. You're welcome to try something else, clinical trials or whatever.

            Thanks.

            Good luck. Also ask about immune checkpoint inhibitors. For some kinds of cancer, they can be downright amazingly effective.

          • Good luck to you, whatever path you get.

            Fuck cancer.

          • Wishing you the best of luck, from one anonymous internet curmudgeon to someone going through something supremely challenging.
  • There are many, many types of cancers. There will be no universal cancer or Alzheimer's vaccine. Alzheimer's is a process like aging or heart disease: it happens by one or more degenerative processes rather than a single pathogen or genetic defect.
    • That was the first question in my head was "what kind of cancer?" but they're claiming all types. Sounds a bit incredible to me, but if the FDA approved a phase 3 trial then there may be something to it. Also AFAIK we still don't really understand the pathway for Alzheimer's disease, unlike cancer, which means you can't really say it's just related to aging like you can say with loss of skin elasticity. Certainly not for heart disease.

  • Here you already have it, preferential treatment, his own father got the 'cure', but many others are left out. Why not just give this vaccine to a larger group of cancer patients who already have zero hope of living, that way everybody wins, if the vaccine doesn't work, they're dead anyway. They did it with the covid vaccine, using a highly unproven vaccine on so many people, who didn't even need it as they weren't sick, not until after they got the vaccine. At least this way no healthy people will get kill
  • Is this what Riley Polk was saying ? 2 very different types of cancer.
  • While it is wonderful we can potentially achieve a vaccine to prevent some cancers, I dislike how we in the U.S. fundamentally treat people in relation to medicine and work.

    Will this be even remotely affordable? As in, I wouldn't think twice about getting it if I was poor with bad or no medical insurance.

    Also, as we keep increasing the health and lifespan of people, too many politicians want social safety nets reduced, like Social Security retirement benefits to start at a higher age because people live lo

    • This involves processes of samples derived from the patient so while automation may drive the labor portion of the cost down it'd never be able to be mass produced in the same sense as epinephrine or insulin. However, if certain cancers have particularly promiscuous epitopes then you might be able to produce bulk antibodies in goats as is otherwise done for immunology research, but then we're not talking about the particular treatment the article describes any more.
  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Monday January 22, 2024 @10:39AM (#64179095)

    Doctor: I have good news and bad news.

    The good news is, when I give you this shot, you'll live for another 200 years.
    The bad news is, you'll have to work for 190 years more.

  • What is it about the 32% that makes this ineffective? Weak immune systems? My understanding is that we all have spontaneous cancer cells pop up but the immune system can kill them before they have a chance to proliferate.
  • The COVIDiots and other antivaxers won't take it. Cancer deserves them.

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