Early Humans Wiped Out in Europe By 'Glacial Cooling,' Study Suggests 61
Extreme "glacial cooling" that occurred more than a million years ago in southern Europe is likely to have caused an "extinction of early humans" on the continent, according to new research. From a report: The previously unknown ice age pushed the European climate to "beyond what archaic humans could tolerate" and likely wiped out human life on the continent temporarily, concluded an academic paper published in the journal Science. The findings by 11 researchers from institutions including University College London and the University of Cambridge challenge the long-held idea that humans have continuously occupied Europe since first arriving in the region.
The newly discovered cooling event was "comparable to some of the most severe events of recent ice ages," said the paper's lead author Vasiliki Margari from UCL. "We suggest that these extreme conditions led to the depopulation of Europe," the researchers concluded. Glacial-interglacial cycles, or warmer and colder periods each lasting thousands of years, have occurred cyclically over the past 2.6mn years, with large ice sheets forming during the colder spells and melting during the warmer periods. According to the academic paper, a previously unknown glacial period that occurred about 1.1mn years ago led to abrupt cooling that lasted about 4,000 years. This happened as conditions began to warm and large ice sheets melted into the Atlantic Ocean, which pushed down European sea and land temperatures.
The newly discovered cooling event was "comparable to some of the most severe events of recent ice ages," said the paper's lead author Vasiliki Margari from UCL. "We suggest that these extreme conditions led to the depopulation of Europe," the researchers concluded. Glacial-interglacial cycles, or warmer and colder periods each lasting thousands of years, have occurred cyclically over the past 2.6mn years, with large ice sheets forming during the colder spells and melting during the warmer periods. According to the academic paper, a previously unknown glacial period that occurred about 1.1mn years ago led to abrupt cooling that lasted about 4,000 years. This happened as conditions began to warm and large ice sheets melted into the Atlantic Ocean, which pushed down European sea and land temperatures.
But we fought back (Score:5, Funny)
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“Oh, so Mother Nature needs a favour?! Well, maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys. Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing. Well, I say hard cheese. [youtube.com]
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Can we all have a moment of silence for the Neanderthals; the original owners of this land since time memorial.
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23andMe says I have more Neanderthal DNA than 84% of other customers, comprising less than 2% of my DNA, get off my lawn.
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To the best of my knowledge, the maximal extent of Neanderthal settlement ranges from Mainland Europe (not sure if that includes the West European Archipelago (the British, Scottish and Irish Isles) ; or the Mediterranean islands ; or, for that matter, Scandinavia), through the Levant, Persia (Iran, this century) Anatolia and off to an indeterminate limit in Eastern Siberia somewhere. I'm not aware off any evidence that the Neanderthals ever reached the Americas. There's equally no ev
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJ8WrKnLUs
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Sorry, forgot formatting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJ8WrKnLUs/ [youtube.com]
I read the summary (Score:5, Interesting)
Which makes an interesting side comment that really should have been highlighted.
Massive sheets melting due to global warming triggered a 4000 year ice age in Europe by cooling the oceans.
The planet is staggeringly complex.
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This is the perfect example of loser-nerd-fear.
1) we are completely anonymous strangers on the internet
2) you are so hateful and jealous of your superior you felt the need to hit out with some nonsense about nothing
3) and so utterly terrified of me you had to check off the anonymous box because normal anonymity wasn't enough to make you feel safe taking a pot shot from behind your mom's skirts
4) you feel so much better about yourself having done so
Put away the Cheetos, stop paying rent for your mom's baseme
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Exactly my point. Checks the AC box to say something stupid, hostile and blatantly incorrect and feels empowered doing so.
You are nerd-fear-loser material.
More hysteria (Score:5, Insightful)
By "wiped out", I expect that really means "moved somewhere else aside from some exceptional circumstances. Climate change is not like you dropped a bomb on them, they gradually found it less-viable than other places and either adapted or moved on.
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By "wiped out", I expect that really means "moved somewhere else aside from some exceptional circumstances. Climate change is not like you dropped a bomb on them, they gradually found it less-viable than other places and either adapted or moved on.
I take "wiped out" literally. I suspect God wadded up a giant piece of proto-TP (aka academic paper) in his giant hand and smeared these fuckers out.
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God is some kid of sadistic motherfucker. Flooding people out, freezing people out, now burning us up. WTF? We treat our children better. No enlightenment to be found, just authoritative vindictive sadism. Be nice to your fellow man but kiss my ass and do as I say or I'll fucking kill you in the most horrible way. Some God you have there, like a spoiled child.
If you take the Christian mythology about God at face value, he's quite possibly one of the most evil creatures to have ever existed. Narcissistic to the point of absurdity. Demanding of worship and fealty. Sends his son down to visit with the riff-raff only to intentionally have him die horrifically to "pay for everyone else's sins." Obey him, or burn for eternity! What a guy!
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God doesn't send his son to die horrifically, he sends him to experience dying, then go back to wherever God lives after a couple of days.
Me, I prefer that if I must worship any deities, that they be o
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given that "on the continent" is a significant part of what got "wiped out", "moved somewhere else" still counts.
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West of Trieste though, and you (or your descendents) end up in southern Spain, just able to see the relatively clement "Barbary" coast of North Africa, and wishing you'd invented the boat (or raft) before the ice killed off the trees.
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It's also many decades old knowledge. The story goes that there was supposedly to be a recurrence ice-age on its way as well.
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If you've disabled display of "signatures", this might not make much sense.
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This will be great fodder (Score:2)
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Is this fodder?
I think the crux of the so called "climate deniers" is that the earths climate is always in natural flux and that our contribution is minimal.
The fact that there were significant climate events before man had any possible impact kind of goes to show that the earths climate has the capacity to radically change without human intervention. Am I right?
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"Climate denier" is a slur used to sway low-IQ people and avoid any debate. They use many such slurs.
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"It's one of the lowest forms of rhetorical debate tactics."
Indeed, it's not enough that these deep-state, china-loving, woke, snowflake pedos groom our children, they have to use the lowest form of rhetorical debate tactics too! Why can't they use honorable language like Republicans? Maybe Boebs and the Marge and teach a class on personal dignity.
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Do you feel better now?
Or do you find associating people with different views with holocaust denial a valid debate tactic?
I hope you at least feel better.
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Oh hell, yeah. I'd definitely make efforts to rip the DRM off that, to avoid paying them for such hilarity. Sometimes theft can be political.
Re:This will be great fodder (Score:5, Funny)
Person A: You just shot that person with a gun and they died!!
Person B: While yes I did just shoot this gun, but can you deny that people's health fluctuates all the time, many people died well before I pulled the trigger. What we're witnessing is just a human's natural capacity to die.
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What grade school level book on science? The one that failed to teach you what a theory is, and how theory and consensus are unrelated?
At least you got the projection down, that's all they teach at your school, apparently.
Hominins not Anatomically Modern Humans ... (Score:3)
I should note that 1.1 Mya there were no anatomically modern humans yet. Even Neanderthals were not present in that far off past.
Oh, I see that the paper [science.org] says Hominins, not Humans ...
That is what you get when the 'editors' post science articles from the Financial Times.
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That is a nice one ...
I resemble that remark ...
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They *were* humans. Just not *Homo Sapien* (modern) humans. Probably Homo Erectus (early humans).
All humans are also hominins, but not all hominins are human.
Archeologists underestimate human capabilities (Score:2)
They are clearly underestimating the ability of humans to migrate. A group of humans is capable of walking the entire Mediterranean coastline in a few years. Glacial-interglacial cycles have ~100
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I guess those losers didn't get the text message that they needed to split, huh?
"...but asserting that humans wouldn't return over 100,000 year time frames is ignoring the well known range and mobility of humans."
This topic has dumber than normal posters, quite an achievement for /. The article is about depopulation, not about and failure to "return". Also, our ancestors DID return to Africa, and eventually return to Europe as well. Couldn't have offered a dumber post had you tried.
What's the point... (Score:2)
...of Slashdot posting an article, when you can't even read the source material (requires subscription)????
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It's one more to meet their quota of articles posted without effort. The editors don't read the source material why should they care that you would, or assume that you would even consider doing so. Every article is a troll, nothing more.
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Good stuff... (Score:3)
This site has most of the good stuff (less the jargon):
https://infoscihub.blogspot.co... [blogspot.com]
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Can't give you points, but thanks!
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