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US Reading and Math Scores Drop To Lowest Level In Decades (npr.org) 248

The average test scores for 13-year-old students in the U.S. have decreased in reading and math since 2020, reaching the lowest levels in decades, with more significant declines in math. NPR reports: The average scores, from tests given last fall, declined 4 points in reading and 9 points in math, compared with tests given in the 2019-2020 school year, and are the lowest in decades. The declines in reading were more pronounced for lower performing students, but dropped across all percentiles. The math scores were even more disappointing. On a scale of 500 points, the declines ranged from 6 to 8 points for middle and high performing students, to 12 to 14 points for low performing students.

The math results also showed widening gaps based on gender and race. Scores decreased by 11 points for female students over 2020 results, compared with a 7-point decrease for male students. Among Black students, math scores declined 13 points, while white students had a 6-point drop. Compared with the 35-point gap between Black and white students in 2020, the disparity widened to 42 points.

While the scores show a drop from the pre-pandemic years, the results also show that there are other factors at work. The decline is even more substantial when compared with scores of a decade ago: The average scores declined 7 points in reading and 14 points in mathematics. The Education Department says plans are underway to address the learning loss. [...] The latest results are from the NAEP Long-Term Trend Assessment, traditionally administered every four years by the National Center for Education Statistics.

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US Reading and Math Scores Drop To Lowest Level In Decades

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:03PM (#63622012)
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    • 1950s.
      the irony is fantastic

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Also, equity -- as in Diversity, Inclusion, Equity -- has never been greater.

      • by nsbfikwjuunkifjqhm ( 8274554 ) on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:20AM (#63622842)
        So that explains why the sharpest declines were in red states, where they thankfully killed that woke nonsense. I'm sure it's nothing to do with those states removing books and rewriting history. And dont forget about CRT! You know, that college philosophy that teaches white elementary kids that they're guilty for their grandparents' racism, that must be why the black kids scores dropped more.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:16AM (#63622876) Homepage Journal

        Blaming the wrong thing is why this keeps getting worse.

        The pandemic had a big effect, but the chronic problem is underfunding.

        • by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Thursday June 22, 2023 @08:22AM (#63623034)

          Blaming the wrong thing is why this keeps getting worse.

          The pandemic had a big effect, but the chronic problem is underfunding.

          It's a problem, but math is not particularly affected by money, unless we're dealing with money in the math. 8^) And you are correct that people will trot out the same old tropes. But some times, blaming trans people for low math scores is sort of reflecting on the stupidity of the person trying to use that as an excuse.

          I prefer a math related correlation. Common core math.

          My son had common core math in school, and what it does and does very well, is make exceedingly simple math exceedingly difficult. Basic math is rote, will always be rote, and needs to be taught as rote.

          Now is that the cause of the lowered scores? Some folks will reee about correlation is not causation. so in order not to upset them I'll make no such claim. Just note that if the basics are made overly complicated, one of the effects might be lowered math scores.

        • Blaming the wrong thing is why this keeps getting worse. The pandemic had a big effect, ...

          There have been reports that the trend is long and consistent, that the pandemic made it worse but was not the main problem.

          One example, California once had its own math curriculum standard developed by the faculty of Stanford University's math department in consultation with faculty from child development faculty. Today we have the brainchild of Washington DC politicians, the common core curriculum. Fail to adopt it, no federal grants for you.

          "California’s adoption of Common Core caused an eart

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by fropenn ( 1116699 )
        You are completely wrong here. Schools are about as unequal as they have ever been (see: https://www.edweek.org/leaders... [edweek.org]).

        And with many states passing school vouchers (which primarily support wealthy families who were already sending their kids to private school), the inequities will continue to get worse.
    • Okay but don't forget the pandemic statistics did skew in an unflattering direction for people living in glass houses.

    • NO- participation = passing grade is what happened.
      Fool parents demanded "results" and were placated when the solution was to make all the children repeat a grade or two. It doesn't do harm because ALL get held back; instead you ignored them learning nothing and continued like it all worked; when it failed. Plus the selfish thoughtless foolish demands parents had just shows how screwed society is.

  • time to start teaching the test again and cutting out stuff that is not on the test

    • The sad bit is that this is very likely what they do already.

      • It doesn't help when the test itself gives out all of the "acceptable" answers to the students. If you want that test to mean anything beyond "I got lucky with a few dice(6 sided No.2 pencil) rolls", you need to make the students actually come up with their own answers.

        Me: But because doing that would require hiring actual teachers who know their material and paying them to actually grade the tests (instead of funneling it all through a cheap decades old scantron machine) scores will continue to fall.

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        • It doesn't help when the test itself gives out all of the "acceptable" answers to the students. If you want that test to mean anything beyond "I got lucky with a few dice(6 sided No.2 pencil) rolls", you need to make the students actually come up with their own answers.

          This shows a profound ignorance of what the federal assessment requirements are for states.

          States are required to have normed assessments which they are required to statistically prove provide equal assessment to all student demographic groups. They have to demonstrate an alignment of these tests to their standards.

          What you're describing tests understanding and technical skill. That's not what the federal government requires states to do in order to get federal education dollars. That's not what this assessment (NAEP) is doing.

          And what you're describing is super hard to implement and grade, and takes a very, very long time to design and administer. Since there's no federal incentive to do this, states go with the lowest bidder to meet the federal testing requirements, with the shortest test they can get by with the shortest development time and least overhead.

          That's why testing is what it is in the US.

          To change that, you and a whole lot of other people need to be chatting with your congress critters and getting them to change the federal educational laws and testing and accountability requirements.

          • A friend involved in that area said that Chinese kids are totally fucking up the system because so many of them skew very strongly to the right of the curve. That in turn somehow hurts funding.

    • by Kobun ( 668169 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:25PM (#63622086)
      Teaching the test is very likely why these test scores are going lower and lower. When you teach students to perform by rote memorization, they cannot handle deviation. Unless the test is almost EXACTLY like the questions from class, those students who did not naturally develop the ability to generalize will fall down.

      Teach then how to reason, how the underlying theories work, and how to reduce problems down to their base components so that they can see the inherent similarities, and you will see test scores improve.
      • Teaching the test is very likely why these test scores are going lower and lower.

        I think this is more likely than not. We've seen it in computing, so why wouldn't it apply to schooling in general?

        In computing, there are all too many people who are trained on, for example, Microsoft Word. And not just Microsoft Word, but a specific version of Microsoft Word. When a different version is released, many of those people require fresh training. The vast majority of them are completely clueless when dropped into a different word processing program, because they never learned why particular opt

        • by narcc ( 412956 )

          They weren't clueless -- they just saw an opportunity to not work for a little while. I've seen people demand retraining because of superficial design changes ( corners are rounded slightly differently,minor color/gradient/etc difference). "Oh, I just can't figure it out! It's so different!", even though the interface is nearly identical, nothing was moved or removed.

          They're not incompetent, they're just lazy.

      • Teaching the test is very likely why these test scores are going lower and lower. When you teach students to perform by rote memorization, they cannot handle deviation. Unless the test is almost EXACTLY like the questions from class, those students who did not naturally develop the ability to generalize will fall down. Teach then how to reason, how the underlying theories work, and how to reduce problems down to their base components so that they can see the inherent similarities, and you will see test scores improve.

        Sounds like common core math, where simple things get rather complicated?

        Some things are simply rote. basic math is one of them. 2+2 = 4. Trying to adapt that to a reasoning process is what gets us this sort of genius https://thephilosophyforum.com... [thephilosophyforum.com]

        Because we can turn out students who are universally confused if we like. Basic math answers that can be anything, as long as we've philosophized it to be what we want.

        Teaching to the test? I take it that that is giving the students the answers or someth

    • Time to start teaching again. Not mucking with politics about who is offended by history, not banning books, not letting parents interfere with the curriculum, getting politicians to stay away from it.

  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:17PM (#63622070)

    Lower the standards so the students can pass the tests again.

    • Actual statement in university-wide committee meeting in 2015:

      "Our goal was to make a test that no one could fail, and we haven't succeeded, because some students are still failing. So we need to fix that."

    • by fazig ( 2909523 )
      You know, the thing I'm wondering here about, reading some of the comments (not yours) complaining about the decadence of the system by making wide sweeping statements, is how those people would perform on the tests for middle schoolers with those lowered standards.
    • We just need to teach students to use ChatGPT, and our problems will be solved!
  • by Thelasko ( 1196535 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:17PM (#63622074) Journal
    • Why, did home schoolers let their kids go to school since they don't have to go there for real?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:46PM (#63622652)

      Of course. Phonics, the way to teach reading that actually works so of course the education community hated it for some reason. See also, new math which made me think long division was insurmountable until I got sent to a private school that taught it the "old fashioned" way.

      I sort of get what some of these teachers are trying to do, but until you have the fundamentals, you can't explore. Phonics isn't even really new--they always told us to "sound it out". Yes, you can't do that with every word--there are rule breakers, but until you know what the rules are you can't tell the kids the word is a rule-breaker!

      Then for the kids that have the spark, you can tell them *why* it's a rule breaker, which opens up the whole world of how English got cobbled together from ancient tongues and evolved. Not every kid will want to learn Latin, but the path that takes them there is well trodden, if only educators would lead them.

  • by Asynchronously ( 7341348 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:22PM (#63622080)

    Kids these days can’t do math but they know about pronouns and 100 different genders.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by thegarbz ( 1787294 )

      Sorry Desantis, but kids don't pay attention to that shit in school either, and if they did learning one thing doesn't preclude learning another.

      If you want to criticise something, criticise the fucking bone-headed "Core maths" rewrite a few years back. The kind of math that taught kids that their lives will be spent counting change at Burger King and not to strive for anything better.

      • by sjames ( 1099 )

        So much this. It really looks like a group of 'experts' teamed up the find the most annoyingly baroque and meandering way you can possibly add 2 numbers and teach a whole generation of hapless kids that that is the right way.

      • by sfcat ( 872532 )
        The problem with core math is that it is the result of a bureaucratic process. Teaching kids algebra and geometry at the same time by always showing both interpretations is a good idea. Forcing kids to do a far more tedious version of manual multi-digit multiplication is not. We get both so parents have a hard time teaching their kids about math, not because the math is any harder but because the way the calculations are done is extra tedious for no good reason (why is adding squares better than adding r
      • Sorry Desantis, but kids don't pay attention to that shit in school either, and if they did learning one thing doesn't preclude learning another.

        If you want to criticise something, criticise the fucking bone-headed "Core maths" rewrite a few years back. The kind of math that taught kids that their lives will be spent counting change at Burger King and not to strive for anything better.

        Why the hell you were downvoted is beyond me. Math is rote - unless a postmodernist is trying to philosophize it into weirdness like the 2+2 equals 5 crowd https://thephilosophyforum.com... [thephilosophyforum.com] Which some try to claim that adding the speed of light to the speed of light gives you the speed of light.

        We aren't supposed to have basic stuff be complicated. We're supposed to learn the basics, then go on to much more interesting things.

  • by jargonburn ( 1950578 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:25PM (#63622088)
    Politics has shown me I don't need math nor to read, write or talk good to be the President.
  • Has calculator use increased? Text to speech? Audio books? Imagine in 200 years no one will read books because it'll be some VR experience injection into your brain. Sure it's. A stat worth understanding but is it really a problem? A lot of these alarmist stat repeaters are going to be cloned by AI soon...and the teachers Roth online classrooms/AI It's already starting.
  • DEI / SEG (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sdinfoserv ( 1793266 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:40PM (#63622130)
    We are seeing the effect of pushing schools to focus on Diversity Equity and Inclusion under the Social Environmental Governance rather than on intellectual competence. Example: forcing kids to spend a 1/2 day holding hands and dancing in circles around a pride flag does nothing to teach math skills. Idiocracy is real.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Opportunist ( 166417 )

      I agree. Let's start by removing that silly "pledge" bullshit and the rest of the flag waving nonsense that clutters our kids' day. If you want to stuff your kids' minds with ideology, do it at your own time. School's for teaching important stuff.

    • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
      Out of curiosity, what's being pushed?

      I have a son in elementary school, his lesson plans have been pretty straight forward. They learn math differently than I did in the 80s but once I took some time to understand the process, it was actually quite easy. His social studies lessons are pretty typical from what I remember growing up.. focusing on only the good things important people in history did. I guess the biggest difference would be that growing up, I only learned about what white men did and now
      • by sfcat ( 872532 )
        Your example of what you don't need to learn about is the guy who wrote the Constitution? Also, you couldn't even give an example from math or reading. That's a historical topic. Um...perhaps you should more critically evaluate your own educational experience with an eye to other things that perhaps if you had learned at an earlier age might have helped you not write this post.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by thegarbz ( 1787294 )

      We are seeing the effect of pushing schools to focus on Diversity Equity and Inclusion under the Social Environmental Governance rather than on intellectual competence.

      No we're not. Learning a social science does not mean your math skills need to drop. You don't go to school in the morning and say "I am able to learn one thing today, I wonder what it will be!".

      Math and reading scores dropping are the result of a horrendously bad re-write in the standard curriculum for those two subjects a few years ago. We covered this extensively on Slashdot and many hear predicted exactly this outcome and back then people didn't even know what the word "woke" was.

      • Mod parent up. suckers are falling for the current fearmongering again... woke or islam or gay or black.. it's always something and never close to the actual sources of problems.

    • by dryeo ( 100693 )

      We do that stuff in BC and how test scores are pretty good, especially compared to America. Still things are changing, people showing up and making little girls cry as they scream at them to prove they're a girl. American type freedom, making little kids cry, is spreading.

    • BS. A few days of pointless shit isn't replacing education - it's just another BS ritual to appease some demographic no different than xmas, Halloween, and the other stuff that "undermines" education and breaks the monotony.

      The peak of US education was the 60s before education became a political priority and then both parties fought over it while 1 was bent to wage war on it because the educated didn't want to fight an idiotic war.

      We have fads come and go and right now an intelligent debate needs to be had

  • Maybe itâ(TM)s just me but I have no idea what this article is trying to get atâ¦
  • We basically vilified the idea of the family business and hence there weren't any one to teach the kids but a government entity on how not to have a family business and go to work for the man or worse yet join the military. If you had a family business and were armed you wouldn't need a government learning entity or a full blown military.

    Carry on, morons.

  • by biggaijin ( 126513 ) on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @08:04PM (#63622328)

    Like Communism, where everyone is poor together, the new equity-based education system will guarantee that we are all stupid together. Welcome to the new America, where every spark of distinction and show of individuality is ground into dust by our schools.

  • Trump's fault and not because of the lockdowns!

  • it's nothing but posts from Socrates.
  • by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Thursday June 22, 2023 @12:07AM (#63622666) Homepage
    In a few more years studies will find that the same thing has happened to the work from home crowd.
  • Can't keep your face glued to a tablet all day if you can't read. "Low Income" students are being fed lies because it became politically incorrect to tell minority students that they are not special and doing great.
  • by Growlley ( 6732614 ) on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:07AM (#63622836)
    and they don't even need to read that their right wing pastor does that for them.
  • See, when you close schools for a year, students are more or less going to be one year behind schedule. That's how time works. LOL
  • In a sign that governments no longer care about having clever populations, just docile populations, school budgets are getting cut all over the Western world. I mean that's one take. It could just be a side effect of right-leaning governments cutting funding

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