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Police Use DNA Phenotyping To Limit Pool of Suspects To 15,000 (vice.com) 50

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: The Queensland, Australia police have used DNA phenotyping for the first time ever in hopes of leading to a breakthrough for a 1982 murder. The department partnered with a U.S.-based company called Parabon NanoLabs to create a profile image of the murder suspect, a Caucasian man with long blonde hair. Police claim that this image was generated using blood samples found at the scene of the murder of a man from 40 years ago; according to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation this is the first time "investigative genetic genealogy" has been used in Queensland.

This image does not factor in any environmental characteristics, such as tattoos, facial hair, and scars, and cannot determine the age or body mass of the suspect. However, Queensland investigators have published the image online and are offering a $500,000 reward and indemnity from prosecution to anyone who might have information about the suspect. The image is a vague rendering of a man that does not provide any more information than the sketch that the department already has of the suspect. This further perpetuates the hyper-surveillance of any man who resembles the image. Parabon NanoLabs has already been criticized by criminal justice and privacy experts for disseminating images that implicate too broad a pool of suspects.

The Queensland police department said that the DNA sample from the case generated a genealogy tree of "15,000 'linked' individuals" and they have not been able to find a close match yet. Instead of facing the possibility that DNA phenotyping may not be an effective tool for narrowing down a suspect, the police department's strategy is to ask the public for their DNA samples. Criminologist Xanthe Mallett said in a press release that to help police find a match, people can "opt-in" to share their own DNA samples with investigators through DNA services such as Family Tree and GEDMatch.
"Many members of the public that see this generated image will be unaware that it's a digital approximation, that age, weight, hairstyle, and face shape may be very different, and that accuracy of skin/hair/eye color is approximate," said Callie Schroeder, the Global Privacy Counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center.
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Police Use DNA Phenotyping To Limit Pool of Suspects To 15,000

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  • Their pre-crime force isn't quite ready yet, though. I can't wait for the sperm pre-sorting to get rid of criminal traits, like not being white.

    • Their pre-crime force isn't quite ready yet, though. I can't wait for the sperm pre-sorting to get rid of criminal traits, like not being white.

      Except that in this case the lifted DNA points to a Caucasian male with blonde hair. I know you were going for flame war, or triggering, but not all criminals are non-white, nor are all non-whites criminals.

      • I'm sorry your sarcasm filters aren't working. I thought there were enough hints, like the whole pre-crime thing.

  • I guess you can know that the subject will have hair, that it will be blonde too, but long? How can DNA determine the fashion statements the subject will want to make?

    • I guess you can know that the subject will have hair, that it will be blonde too, but long?

      They know the subject is genetically able to grow long hair (in each individual, hair grow to certain length then falls and is replaced; that women often have longer hair than men is due to their genetics). They assume tall blonde white men on the Australian beachside in 1982 would be likely to let their hair grow to natural length.

      (It does not mean the suspect still uses long hair or that his hair is still blonde, but witnesses might remember knowing someone who matched the description at the time.)

  • That's Angus Young from AC/DC, better check their concert schedule that year

  • Bad laws (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Iamthecheese ( 1264298 ) on Thursday November 10, 2022 @06:23PM (#63042167)
    Laws that restrict liberty are always used against the worst people for the first decade or so. This DNA dragnet is okay, is it, if it helps us catch a murderer? Of course it should be used to catch other alleged criminals as well, right? There's no end to the good we can do with DNA profiling. Just remember the police never lie or make mistakes, there are no politically motivated arrests, and there are no unjust laws.
    • I have a son that is in Cub Scouts. They had a cop come talk to the kids about being a cop. This cop was proud to show off his pink and orange handcuffs. Why did he have colored handcuffs? Because his co-workers like to steal each others cuffs. I later had to point out to my son that the colored handcuffs means that cops are stealing from each other and they never get arrest when they steal like that - that maybe you cannot always trust the police to do the right thing.

      • Tell your son it's like using the pencils and rubber eraser from your friend when you and your friend share a table for two and without formally asking. This happens to me all the time at the office, I bring blue ballpens to meeting, then someone else takes them in the end, or I forget them, who knows. It's not stealing because the pool of pens is still spread on tables at our office, just I can't figure where is mine. My surviving pens are red and green, because I'm the only one with red ballpens so I can

        • I'll quote the cop, "I have pink and orange handcuffs because my coworkers like to steal these things." His words, not mine. Call it what you want, being a cop sounds pretty shitty to me.

    • Why can't we just cut to the chase and preemptively lock everyone up? Crime solved in one fell swoop. It's for the greater good, really.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It's gone the opposite way in the UK. In the early days of DNA evidence the police "invited" whole communities to submit samples, and often many people did. It proved to be a pretty poor way of solving crime though, because obviously the criminal isn't going to volunteer and while the police leant on people who declined there were usually so many of them that it didn't really narrow down the field much.

      Nowadays they don't do mass testing. They rely on their database of DNA samples and on the legal obligatio

  • by awwshit ( 6214476 ) on Thursday November 10, 2022 @07:59PM (#63042375)

    > people can "opt-in" to share their own DNA samples with investigators

    It won't be long until you are arrested because you did not volunteer your DNA for the investigation, you'll be arrested for obstruction of justice and held until you 'prove your innocence' with your DNA.

  • Does the immunity from prosecution include the bad guy, should he choose to visit a police station and confess?

  • by mi ( 197448 ) <slashdot-2017q4@virtual-estates.net> on Thursday November 10, 2022 @08:49PM (#63042461) Homepage Journal

    people can "opt-in" to share their own DNA samples with investigators through DNA services such as Family Tree and GEDMatch

    What you should remember, when considering such a submission, is that it is not just your sample you'll be providing.

    Police will also be able to identify your relatives through partial matches:

    • The perp spat on the ground — see, if we know, whose DNA it is.
    • We don't have an exact match, sir. But this is an immediate male descendant of John Q. Public, who willingly provided his DNA to us back in 2022.
    • Great, how many sons does John have?
    • Just one, sir...

    Whether this is something you want to happen to your child or other relative, should he break a law, is up to you...

    • pretty insightful, mod it up someone, please!
      Yes, this is worth considering...

    • Partial matches are probabilities. There is also a probability that your son was not the perp, but try convincing a jury of idiots otherwise.

      • by mi ( 197448 )

        There is also a probability that your son was not the perp

        Once identified as suspect, police can find other evidence...

        I'd love for this to happen to other people, but I'm not so sure about my own kin...

  • " to create a profile image of the murder suspect, a Caucasian man with long blonde hair. "

    1 drop of blood and they know his hairdo?
    Cool!

  • I was a bit worried there for a minute as I am a Caucasian man with long blonde hair. Then I remembered I was only five in '82 and have never been to that side of the planet.
  • This has cut it down from a very large family tree of typical Australians, to someone who looks like a typical Australian .... not sure how that helps ...

    • This has cut it down from a very large family tree of typical Australians, to someone who looks like a typical Australian .... not sure how that helps ...

      It helps because you have something scientific to base racial profiling on. If DNA can indicate light skin, blond hair, and blue or green eyes, the police can focus on people matching that description. Likewise if DNA comes back as aboriginal the police could focus on people facing that description without being labeled racist. Of course race, hair color, and eye color are not enough to assume guilt, but it can limit the suspect pool.

  • As an efficiency measure, all 15,000 will be executed at midnight.

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