New York Reports First US Polio Case In Nearly a Decade 163
An unvaccinated young adult from New York recently contracted polio, the first U.S. case in nearly a decade, health officials said Thursday. The Associated Press reports: Officials said the patient, who lives in Rockland County, had developed paralysis. The person developed symptoms a month ago and did not recently travel outside the country, county health officials said. It appears the patient had a vaccine-derived strain of the virus, perhaps from someone who got live vaccine -- available in other countries, but not the U.S. -- and spread it, officials said. The person is no longer deemed contagious, but investigators are trying to figure out how the infection occurred and whether other people may have been exposed to the virus. The report notes that polio was declared eliminated in the U.S. in 1979, "meaning there was no longer routine spread."
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The great anti-vaxxer push is producing results at last!
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Does ivermectin treat Polio?
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Why, yes. Yes, it does! But only if you take a double dose, and follow it with a two ounce chaser of sodium hypochlorite.
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No, but it will still kinda solve the problem by cleaning the gene pool.
Polio tends to be a bit better at that than Covid, so there's hope.
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Such a pity that viruses ignore civil liberties. Somebody needs to haul those viruses into court and make them respect my freedoms!
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Similar hypocrisy can be found in those who insist "my body my choice" but also support infant circumcision.
And, similar argumentation as to why the cases are different.
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Similar hypocrisy can be found in those who insist "my body my choice" but also support infant circumcision.
Can you point to one of those?
Thought not.
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Similar hypocrisy can be found in those who insist "my body my choice" but also support infant circumcision.
Can you point to one of those?
Thought not.
One what? One person, or one entire religion?
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The few Jews I know tend to be in favour of bodily autonomy.
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Well...polio may benefit from civil liberties. Remember, polio typically spreads through oral contact with fecal matter. Buggery laws used to limit where you could make oral contact on somebody else's body, but nowadays there aren't any body parts that are off limits for oral contact.
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Probably be better citizens than the white nationalist goons hanging out in the US of A now.
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As far as I'm concerned we can stop when the Republicans are dead.
Guys! Stop, this is just too much patriotic unity and tolerance. Any more patriotic unity and tolerance from your side and we could have a civil war.
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it actually never ended.
and its stronger than ever since CW1
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As far as I'm concerned we can stop when the Republicans are dead. No need to go overboard.
So, basically you are wishing death on about 35,732,180 of citizens of the United States. You wish this many people dead because they don't agree with your political ideas.
You know, in the middle of the 20th centry there was a group of people that thought the same way about a certain groups of people. That ideology led to them systematically murdering about 12 million of these people in some of the cruellest ways they could come up with. They made a science of it to do it as quickly and efficient as possible.
They then went on to purge the entire world into a war that resulted in the death of a farther, suspected, 50 million people.
An you want to be just like them. Think like them. Instead of challenging people's ideas on merits, you just want them dead.
People like you, like them, make me wonder about the human race. Makes me wonder if we are truly worth being called civilized with such disgusting people as yourself, and them in amongst us and in our history.
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So, you agree with him 35 million people should be dead because of their political beliefs? Unlike you, I now expect that kind of stupidity from people like you.
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It's amazing how fast liberals go to ground when it pointed out disgusting their ideas are and what kind of repulsive human beings they are.
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Reality.
C'mon, it ain't that big a revelation, is it?
Re:Finally (Score:5, Interesting)
Considering how out of touch the Republican Party is with young voters, not a single bullet would need to be fired for Republicans to die out given a sufficient amount of patience. They're doing a pretty god damn good job of killing themselves with quack cures, anti-vaccination horseshit, trying to take away health care from people, increasing the availability of firearms to fucking nut jobs that shouldn't be within 6 city blocks of an AR-15, and sending ever more of their own supporters to the poor house by shifting the tax burden from those who can afford to pay it, to those that can't.
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Considering how out of touch the Republican Party is with young voters, not a single bullet would need to be fired for Republicans to die out given a sufficient amount of patience. .
I go back a ways, age-wise, and I've heard this all my life. And yet, "young voters" get married, buy houses, have kids, and... end up voting Republican.
The 35 year old couple with kids, a mortgage, and credit card bills are not the same people as the 25 year olds that used to Rage Against The Machine. Indeed, they grow up and often see that the Machine is there for a reason.
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Ummm, that was the Boomer's excuse, too. Not that any of them "sold out" or anything like that...
Just sayin'.
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That might have been true of the boomer generation, and maybe a lot of gen X too. I'm gen X and still a socialist...
But the younger ones these days, they don't have the opportunities that their parents had. You talk about them getting a mortgage by 35, that's just a dream for a lot of them with house prices the way they are now.
It makes sense to support the machine when it benefitted you, but clearly it's broken for a lot of younger people now. I wouldn't bet on them supporting it when they are still renting into their 40s and beyond.
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I'm gen X and still a socialist...
The problem with Socialism is that others need more than you can give. Capitalism solves that nicely: their needs are their problem, your needs are your problem.
The main problem with Capitalism is that it is an economic system, not a social system. A social system needs to be in place for Capitalism to not turn everything into a profit burning hell.
Neither Socialism or Capitalism are sufficient for a healthy society.
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The problem is they are taking innocent people out with them. If we can take all anti-vaxxers and put them on a little island and leave them there I'd fully support their desire to do whatever the heck they want. Well not whatever, I'd still expect they stop it with the fucking fossil fuels and enact some green policies. At least until we put a giant glass dome over said island.
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Considering how out of touch the Republican Party is with young voters, not a single bullet would need to be fired for Republicans to die out given a sufficient amount of patience. They're doing a pretty god damn good job of killing themselves with quack cures, anti-vaccination horseshit, trying to take away health care from people, increasing the availability of firearms to fucking nut jobs that shouldn't be within 6 city blocks of an AR-15, and sending ever more of their own supporters to the poor house by shifting the tax burden from those who can afford to pay it, to those that can't.
It's not just young voters that the Republicans are out of touch with... Middle aged and older voters are equally ignored.
This is why the Republicans have figured out how to get elected, without winning elections, via gerrymandering and well...outright cheating. Once they are back in power, they'll ensure that a repeat of 2020 can never happen (erm... that is an election that didn't go their way).
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Kill you? Please, you're very capable of doing that yourself. You're literally one lethal Covid variant away from dying out.
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Americans don't get polio vaccines anymore, and they think this case was actually caused by a vaccine.
If anything this is going to fuel the anti vax fire unfortunately.
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Of course American's still get polio vaccines!II It even said that in TFA. In most states, it's a required vaccination before kids are allowed to attend school. https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/def... [wa.gov]
There are two types of polio vaccine: Inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) and Oral polio vaccine (OPV) https://www.who.int/teams/heal... [who.int]
This issue was just discussed on Slashdot a few months ago. Vaccine-Derived Polio Is On the Rise [slashdot.org]
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Thanks for correcting my derp.
I was thinking smallpox.
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Mumps circulates among them every year or so too and they were ground zero in NY for COVID infections.
Thats why ground zero was in of all places Portchester/New Rochelle. There was a huge wedding for a leader i ntheir community and guests brought it over from Israel.
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Harrison Bergeron like? I.e. if everyone is dumb as a doorknob, we're number 1 again?
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Srsly though, should the live vaccines not be going the way of the bow and arrows and replaced with something better?
Yes, mRNA. But it makes jesus weep and scrambles your DNA.
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Let's not forget the 5G tracking chips.
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No, almost certainly not. This idiot was caught in a perfect storm of stupidity mixed with bad luck.
Had he had the non-live virus vaccine here in the US then would have been (almost entirely) protected from the virus whether it came come an infected person, a person who received the live-virus vaccine, or a random sketchy goat.
While the live virus vaccine has its issues, it is generally
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You're a fucking clown. Maybe if your side actually gave a shit about kids... You know, when you're not busy fucking them or aborting them.
How come not one Democratic legislator will say when life begins, short of birth? Are all of you fuckers actually okay with aborting 5 mins before birth? Your politicians are..
You're a fucking clown. Maybe if your side actually gave a shit about the environment, there wouldn't be so many children dying from pollution. https://www.who.int/news/item/06-03-2017-the-cost-of-a-polluted-environment-1-7-million-child-deaths-a-year-says-who [who.int] Oh that's right, your side doesn't care about fetuses once they're born, that's why most of you don't sign up for adoption and are for capital punishments.
How come not one Republican will state when global warming is a problem and instead say only
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“Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschoo
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So if the spreader had been an anti-vaxxer this wouldn't have happened?
If the spreadee had been vaccinated it wouldn't have happened.
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Those in the general public that were vaccinated for it are past breeding age, so you will have effectively ended the world.
Don't take this personally, but you don't have my vote for anything more important than scooping fries into a container.
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First, I think there is just a slight chance the previous poster was being sarcastic.
Second, even when there was no vaccine for smallpox, the world didn't end when there were outbreaks. And even if there was a smallpox outbreak, we all have a whole lot of experience at this point with how to lock down in order to prevent the spread of communicable disease. It will be economically painful, just like last time, but far better for the economy than millions of corpses piling up and subsequent disease outbreak
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First, I think there is just a slight chance the previous poster was being sarcastic.
Of course they were.
However, you can never tell if the anti-anti-vaxxer has flipped to the other end of the stupidity slider and thinks that we're vaccinated for smallpox.
As for how dangerous it is, you're greatly underestimating it, but yes- I exaggerated. It's not the end of the world.
It could cause the collapse of ~50% of its population though, and a subsequent collapse of human civilization.
It's been generations since it was an endemic disease, which defense against was selected for evolutionarily
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I am feeling pretty smug right now. I was almost certainly vaccinated against smallpox as a child (not in the USA) and this gives protection against Monkeypox also!
Also, I have been vaccinated against Polio twice: once as a child and once to get a Green Card (because I did not have records of the first vaccination).
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I'd ask if you have any proof of that absurd assertion, but you're only an AC and won't even know that I asked, let alone have a response.
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Because the oral polio vaccine created by Albert Sabin, MD, has a bitter, salty taste, it is sometimes given to children on a lump of sugar or in a spoonful of sweet syrup â" known as Sabin Syrup.
https://www.cincinnatichildren... [cincinnatichildrens.org]
I have no idea why you're wanting to debate whether the vaccine was given to kids in a cherry flavored syrup, but it was. Pharmacies still offer flavored syrups for kids' medications, but now they offer a lot of other flavors besides cherry.
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I'm not arguing that it wasn't cherry flavored, although once it was on the sugar cubes it didn't taste like much of anything except sweet. However, the way you phrased it made it look like you didn't think it really had any active ingredients. If that's not what you meant, I sit corrected.
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Well the Women are probably past breeding age, but men function much longer.
Don't tread on them (Score:4, Interesting)
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The slogan will be changed to “Don’t unplug me!”.
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And everyone will wonder "Why the hell not?"
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OH SHI~
That's not going to mix well with Texas' amazingly stable electric grid.
Keep the text as is... (Score:2)
Just replace the image of the snake with an image of a breathing tube.
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Or even better, put an O2 bottle and nasal cannula on the snake.
Thoughts and prayers. (Score:2, Flamebait)
I have never understood the mentality of one who professes great fealty to their deity to guide them through the trials of life such that they shun modern prevention, and then subsequently run to a hospital to seek modern medical treatment. If your belief is that your great creator(s) are the ones who will save you from affliction, wouldn't it make more sense to instead run to your house of worship and give alms, hymns, and/or prayer?
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You offer thoughts and prayers and in return all you get is coughs and sprayers.
Ingrates!
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I believe that most who are devout to such an extreme that they shun all modern prevention probably would rely on prayer - at their house of worship or in private - to take care of their afflictions. This represents only a small subset of the devout, however.
My God promises and continues to do great things. He will even sometimes help us if we come down with something modern medicine has made a way to stop if we don't take advantage of vaccines for example - whether we have a good reason or not to avoid on
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A plague descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe.
"Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast."
"No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He will save me."
Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another guy zips up in a motorboat.
"Come on, Pre
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I usually tell this joke with the punchline of god saying "Odd.... I sent one guy to Johnson&Johnson, one to Astra, one to Biontech... did none of them arrive?"
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Thoughts and Prayers are like masturbation. The person doing them gets a lot of joy out of it, but the target they're thinking of has no use for it.
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Thoughts & prayers is virtue signaling at its worst. It's basically doing fuck all, but wanting praise for it.
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No, they are afforded ecclesiastical immunity, much like the way the sitting POTUS gets to exercise "executive privilege"....
American exceptionalism at its best (Score:2, Interesting)
Once again, the United States of America leads the world in a new direction. This magnificent democracy will soon be the first country in history to voluntarily leave the First World community of nations to proudly become a Third World country. Preventable diseases afflicting the population: check. High infant mortality: check. Widespread poverty: check. Hungry children: check. Rigid social stratification: check. Police routinely beating, murdering and intimidating citizens with impunity: check, che
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For what it's worth, public education is already hanging by it's last thread, and corporate control of mass media has basically always been the case in the United States. What would really get us to third world status in a hurry would be government control of mass media, a la basically every authoritarian regime in the world.
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In a normal oppressive regime, the government controls the economy. In the US, it's the opposite. Otherwise, same shit.
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Idiocracy was inevitable because democracy has one key drawback, it exalts the lowest, the vilest and most ignorant.
Social expectations have changed and populism especially idealizes the sort of worthless trash who once knew their place but now seek to rule the roost. Their intellectual superiors play these morons like the Pied Piper did his flute and they love it because they're addicted to affirmation.
There are some admirable Americans but the USA is not admirable, merely rich because it is geographically
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Democracy has one key fallacy: It assumes that people are actually at least smart enough to understand when they're being bullshitted.
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Soon? A country where healthcare is only for the rich.
A country where people are left to die in the street with no social safety net.
A country which wages war for the purpose of resources.
A country where education is on a rapid decline and children walk through metal detectors going into school.
A country where everyone feels the need to carry a gun to feel safe.
A country where the courts are at the behest of a corrupt government, who rule on a partisan agenda.
A country where said courts enacted tyranny of a
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Pretty much.
We are definitely not that shining beacon anymore. We've lost our moral high ground, our political standing in the world and our economic supremacy.
We can no longer call ourselves land of this free or home of the brave.
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What do you mean by "will soon"? From over here in Europe, that country already looks a lot like the average third world country. A rich, mostly worthless nomenclature living off a mass of oppressed subjects, with every other item on your list already pretty much accomplished.
What's left is the fairly high GDP, but they're working on reducing that one as well.
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Texas and Alaska face the same problem that the rich countries in the middle east are facing: As the world desperately tries to abandon the dependency on oil, their importance and wealth wanes as well.
And what else do they have as assets that should support their standard of living afterwards?
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Re:One person with polio is one person with polio (Score:4, Insightful)
It's only a worry if the numbers increase.
BTW, Joe Biden tested positive for Covid today. He's vaxxed and had multiple boosters. This is the guy that said it's a pandemic of the unvaxxed.
Yes, and thanks to the vaccine he didn't require oxygen and a helicopter ride to the hospital.
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sorta like 99.9% of people who contracted covid; 'vaccine' or not.
But hey! this is slashdot, home to some of the worst takes imaginable on any topic other than open source software.
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So I have a "lightning hits you on a sunny day" chance [novanthealth.org] of dying from a clot from the vaccine (4/million cases, no idea how many of them actually died), or a significantly higher [wa.gov] chance of contracting Covid and also a significantly higher chance to have a severe case, along with a much higher chance for long lasting Covid effects (140% higher contraction rates, 300+% higher hospitalization rates).
Decisions, decisions...
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Well it's pretty rough proving a negative but if those things happened I imagined it would have detailed in this article https://www.bbc.com/news/world... [bbc.com] .
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The evidence is in the numbers as relayed by researchers who get paid to know this stuff.
Re:One person with polio is one person with polio (Score:5, Informative)
https://www.latimes.com/story/... [latimes.com]
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Ok, here is data [cdc.gov] to support the claim that being vaccinated reduces the need for hospitalization.
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Please provide data to support this statement.
What this demand always means is, "No matter what you cite, I'm not going to believe it anyway!"
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What this demand always means is, "No matter what you cite, I'm not going to believe it anyway!"
No, typically it means "I am much stupider than I think I am!"
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And look, his symptoms are mild, and he won't end up on a fucking ventilator, despite being 79 years old.
Or to put it another way, you're a fucking moron.
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And because he's vaccinated and boosted, he's far less likely to have to get put on a ventilator. Somehow I have a feeling we won't be seeing him doing a "looks what a strong tough guy I am" photo op on the Truman Balcony where everyone watching live is wondering if he's going to keel over and die right there on TV, because the last guy sure looked like it when he came home from Walter Reed...
Also, nobody ever said the vaccine completely prevents infection. Well, nobody except people like you who are cons
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It's the pandemic the unvaxed die of.
Allow a car analogy, if only because it's something you might have a chance ot understand: A vaccine is a lot like having an airbag and a seatbelt. Will it prevent accidents? No, of course not. But it will likely keep you from dying in one.
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Darwin is a harsh taskmaster.
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I do. Covid turned out to be mostly a dud, it didn't exactly work as designed.
Polio has a much higher chance to do that job.
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Hey, that's actually a new one! Ok, at least as stupid as the rest, but at least it's one bullshit story I haven't heard before! Well done!
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Yeah, those dreaded Mexicans keep all the antivaxers from getting a shot. By ... umm ... keeping them away at gunpoint? Or ... stalling them in front of the clinics?
How did those dreaded aliens keep you from fighting that virus again?