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Can Twitter Help Disseminate Scientific Information? (science.org) 92

Science magazine explores how actual scientists feel about Twitter: "I like that there's a low bar to entry [on Twitter] — I can put something out and see how other scientists are thinking of a problem, people who have a different skill set than mine," says biostatistician Natalie Dean of Emory University, whose Twitter account has some 138,000 followers. But the pandemic has also helped demonstrate the limitations of social media. It can be difficult, for example, for scientists to be heard over the cacophony of messages on Twitter — some 500 million each day. And although some scientists have used the platform to elevate their online presence, that has rarely translated into concrete professional rewards....

[A]s the pandemic exploded and researchers sought to pump out information to each other and an eager public, many saw advantages to Twitter. Its vast reach became a draw: more than 200 million active daily users, including an estimated one-quarter of U.S. adults, according to the Pew Research Center. This allows scientists to use a single platform to share research findings with both peers and the public and to foster open discussions... One result is that the platform has carried posts about a majority of the total COVID-19 literature — about 51% of journal articles on pandemic research had been mentioned in at least one tweet through May 2021, according to a report by the Research on Research Institute (RoRI). That exceeds the number cited in scholarly articles or mentioned in several other communications venues, including news stories, Facebook, YouTube, Wikipedia, blogs, and policy documents. And it's well above the level before the pandemic, when studies found that just 10% to 30% of papers on any scientific topic got a mention on Twitter....

But an emerging body of research about tweeting suggests that, overall, scientists often struggle to be heard on social media. One study, for example, found tweets containing links to scholarly papers typically get little engagement. Of 1.1 million such tweets about papers published before the pandemic, half drew no clicks, and an additional 22% attracted just one or two, according to a 2021 paper in the Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology.

An information scientist at the University of Ottawa tells the magazine that "We are really not at the point where we want to get, which is, ideally, seeing the impact of research on the greater good of society."

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Can Twitter Help Disseminate Scientific Information?

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  • by Known Nutter ( 988758 ) on Sunday March 27, 2022 @12:37PM (#62393875)
    No.
    • My thoughts, exactly. No.
    • Not true. I can post correct scientific information on Twitter all day long.

      The problem is that nobody will read it, The vast majority prefer to read the juicy misinformation being posted by their favorite celebs and influencers.

      • by Moryath ( 553296 )
        Let's be honest here. The world would be a better place if Twitter just completely fucking shut down today, and never came back.
    • With one word you have correctly summed up the truth of the situation. Well played, sir.
    • "No."
      How about smoke signals, carrier pigeons, or teletype?

    • Correct answer.
  • It's like a water supply. Do you want to drink nice clean water that's been mixed with sewage, or would you rather not drink from the toilet? Remember that most of humanity lacks the filter needed to keep the floaters out of their drinking water, we tend to rely on large organizations to keep our tap water potable.
    • by Moryath ( 553296 )
      If Twitter is the water supply, the problem is that too many republican illiterates, russian propagandists/botfarms, and other goddamned scam artists are shitting in the river constantly. It would be better for Twitter to just shut down today and never fucking come back.
      • by mmell ( 832646 )
        But if Twitter shuts down, where will I pee?

        Seriously, no. Twitter is just fine for what it is - but it isn't an appropriate forum for the dissemination or discussion of scientific information. As for what Twitter is or what it's good for . . . well, that's out of scope for this discussion. Suffice it to say, even if you pick out the floaters, the water there's still a disquieting shade of yellow-brown that just doesn't look drinkable. Hell, I don't even want to get any of that on me.

        • by Moryath ( 553296 )

          Twitter is just fine for what it is

          Nah. Twitter is like having a drainspout from the urinals in the bathroom that cycles right back to the kitchen tap. It ought to be destroyed.

          • by mmell ( 832646 )
            So fix your plumbing. I don't use Twitter, so it doesn't get anywhere near my potable data supply.
            Get rid of Twitter, that sewage is still gonna exist, and it's gonna go somewhere. No, Twitter should be monitored, not destroyed. Ever heard of analyzing sewage to determine infection or drug-use rates among the general population? Yeah, it's like that.
            • by Moryath ( 553296 )

              I don't use Twitter, so it doesn't get anywhere near my potable data supply.

              The problem is, Twitter is like the cesspit that broke the Broad Street Pump [youtube.com] by dumping cholera-tainted effusal into the Thames. You may not even REALIZE that it's poisoning the dialogue around you but it is.

    • That is a good analogy. I am reminded of a quote: "What do you get when you take 100 liters of pure drinking water, and 500mL of sewage? 100.5 liters of sewage." Social media is so tainted by misrepresentations, fact twisting, or outright lies that even with automated checks, it still isn't a place to trust.

      The fact that we have so many different sites and sources makes this even harder, and with how people are so isolated, they rather move to a different social media network, rather than realize a cert

      • It is patently obvious that a Lab Leak was at least plausible if not likely, yet it was almost impossible to publish anything about it in 2020. Facebook banned all mention of a lab leak.

        This then changed in 2021, with Biden saying that it was plausible.

        So the question is, who purifies the water?

        Many virologists had a huge conflict of interest, most notably Peter Daszak who wrote an early Lancet letter condemning "conspiracy theories".

        http://www.originofcovid.org/ [originofcovid.org] for details.

        • by mmell ( 832646 )
          Fortunately for all of us, not you.
          Yes, it is possible the SARS-CoV2 virus is the result of a leak from a lab. It's also possible the moon landing was faked. It's also possible that the mRNA vaccines will have unintended and undesired side effects, such as turning its recipients into reptoids or Magneto clones.
          But the likelihood is on the level most would consider 'negligible'. So before you start saying the lab was in Ukraine not China, let's remember - the overwhelming majority of the evidence indica
          • Where does all this anger and abuse come from?

            The bat coronavirus happened to appear in the city that has the world's leading laboratory on bat coronaviruses that proudly published their impressive results genetically engineering bat coronaviruses. Lab leaks are not uncommon throughout the world. And no natural source has been found after all this time, unlike SARS (civits), MERS (camels), Hendra (horses) etc. whose animal host were found within a few months.

            So of course it is plausible. And I would woul

            • by mmell ( 832646 )
              Well, I suppose it starts when I detect someone laying the groundwork for another round of "let's talk about conspiracy theories!". Really, it's quite kind of you to start slowly, to give the rest of us a chance to see it coming; but at the end of the day, the assertion you're promoting as "plausible if not likely" has been debunked - repeatedly. There is (to the best of my knowledge) no credible evidence to support the assertion that SARS-CoV2 originated in a laboratory. People repeatedly saying it did
            • You do know WHY the leading research facilities into things like animal-borne viruses are there? Because they built them there to study all the fucking animal-borne viruses that swamp that area of China. SARS was a thing, and they built the facilities in places where zoonic coronaviruses could be found.
              So Yes, the facilities are there...but that's because that's where the coronaviruses are.

              • Where "There" means China. China is a big place. The viruses are 1500km away.

                Lots of anger. No useful knowledge.

                • Yes, there are multiple research facilities into diseases of zoonic origin in China...it *is* a big place. The ones in Wuhan are there because that's where the diseases they are studying are.
                  I can't explain it any simpler than that. If you are hell-bent on seeing conspiracy theories, you will see conspiracy theories, no matter what the actual scientists say.
                  https://www.science.org/conten... [science.org]
                  https://www.nature.com/article... [nature.com]

                  • I am not aware of any diseases that started in Wuhan or the surrounding area. I would be interested to know if you have any actual information.

                    The three studies are pre prints that say that it must have started in the markets because that was a super spreader event. Alina Chan tore them to pieces. What is interesting is that they have still not been published in a credible journal, which surprises me. One of the senior authors, Andersen, attached Chan for "Scientific Misconduct" for daring to criticize

                    • Actually, from that science article, it surprisingly mentions Goa

                      "In the new preprint, Gao and colleagues analyzed 1380 samples from 188 animals in the market and the environment, including sewer wells, the ground, feather removing machines, and “containers.” They found SARS-CoV-2 in 73 samples. But because all were from the environment, not the animals themselves, they assert that humans introduced the virus to the market. The authors call the market an “amplifier,” not the source,

          • Look up "Recombinant DNA" - the First World has had the ability to engineer viruses to target a particular ethnic or racial group (not just the general population) since the 1980's at least.

            Understandably, the development of such a weapon would "complicate" international relations considerably.

        • by mmell ( 832646 )
          .org is nice. For this kind of thing, I prefer different TLD's:

          Here, some recreational reading:

          National Library of Medicine [nih.gov]
          WHO [who.int]
          CDC (at National Library of Medicine) [nih.gov]

          It's all dry as dust (.gov and .int sites tend to be) - but if you really want to know what you're talking about, you might consider doing the research first.

          • I have read many technical papers on this. Have you?

            I am interested to hear arguments on facts. I am not much interested in arguments based on authority.

            There is nothing that I am aware of in www.originofcovid.org that anyone has seriously disputed.

            The head of WHO, Telos, has said that the WHO report was "inadequate". It was a travesty.

            • I should add that www.originofcovid.org is full of specific citations. Read, follow up, and you will learn.

              • by mmell ( 832646 )
                For a fellow who claims to have read technical papers, you seem surprisingly gullible, parroting debunked Big Lie conspiracy theories like that. You can't seriously believe the alt-right Big Lie that Covid was cooked up in a Chinese or Ukrainian lab - unless you're either willfully blind or (more likely) politically motivated. Incidentally, glad to hear you've done some reading - but we need to work on your ability to discern credible from incredible.

                Like I said - just because a lot of guys keep yelling

                • Anger, anger, anger.

                  There is no doubt that the Wuhan Institute of Virology did genetic engineering on bat coronaviruses because they proudly published their excellent results.

                  There is doubt as to whether one of those experiments went wrong and there was a lab escape. But not what the WIV was doing in general.

                • by mmell ( 832646 )
                  I should add that in simpler terms, I'm calling you a liar. I've known many like you - totally believable even after they're totally busted.
            • by mmell ( 832646 )
              Wait a minute . . . just for the hell of it, I popped over to your cited authority [originofcovid.org]. The contact information for the website's author . . .

              Contact
              Andrew Tuntable
              EMail: atuntable@atuntable
              Twitter @atuntable

              So . . . you found this guy on Twitter?!? Mister, you're absolutely incredible! LOL! LMFAO! ROFLMAO! . . . you do see the progression here, don't you?

        • Yes, everyone go check out the cited website [originofcovid.org]. Scroll down to the bottom where it says "Contact Information". Enjoy!
          • If you read the site it is all pretty reasonable. Neither you nor I have found any assertions that it makes that are obviously false. The citations seem reasonable.

            If you are only interested in authority, then you will believe in weapons of mass destruction. But if you look a little bit under the covers you will see much more.

            • by mmell ( 832646 )

              Neither you nor I have found any assertions that it makes that are obviously false.

              Your assertion that this website is credible and a source of trustworthy information is obviously false. You're a liar, and I can see that your only purpose (aside from demonstrating your loyalty to Moscow or Bejing) appears to be to troll, to cause others here to behave irrationally so that by comparison you might seem nearly rational.

              Just one last question - why do you hate America?

      • by mmell ( 832646 )
        Sadly, Facebook and Twitter aren't the only social sites that've had "0.5l Sewage - Raw" poured in. Even /. could use a gallon or two of chlorine these days.

        Just for fun: why don't you and I create a couple of throwaway Twitter accounts? We can post about how the Earth is round and goes around the Sun. Imagine the anarchy we'll create! As a follow-on, we can tell them that Elvis is dead and Santa is made up. Can you imagine the screaming from the Q continuum?

        But, yeah - that's about as much science a

  • Let's just throw a few equations into some random comic books.
    I bet we get the same result.

  • Not that evidence-based science is doing well right now, but Twitter could only make things less objective, less open, and more politicized.
  • Twitter is bad. Slashdot is not much better. There's no perfect social media platform, there's no prefect news outlet, far from it. Turn on your own brain filter, and figure it out for yourself. Do not let someone tell you their version of the truth with your brain turned off or else you will live at your own peril and be tossed to and fro by the changing tides. Stop being a lemming, enable and treasure understanding, reject the nonsense. Remove yourselves from the bastions of nonsense.
  • Twitter, as its name implies, is a place for the "twits" to titter at each other, not for the disemination of useful information.

    Anyone who is not a tittering twit should just stay away from the platform designed for tittering twits!

    • by mmell ( 832646 )
      I thought a twitter was the small speaker in the box, the one that makes all the annoying high-pitched sounds clearly audible?
  • It is difficult to give a good explanation for something in only 180 characters unless you have a stream of thought thirty postings long. Very few people will want to read that much in the current format.

    In addition, you have the sound bite issue. People want something short and sweet they can digest. This plays into my first point where multiple postings are not sound bites.

    Then of course you have all the arm chair experts who wil immediately come out of the wood work to give comlete bullshit explanation

    • It is difficult to give a good explanation for something in only 180 characters unless you have a stream of thought thirty postings long.

      Tweets are 280 characters, probable typo there though. Anyway I've seen lots of multi-post tweets, and twitter recognizes them and organizes them for convenient reading. And the benefit of the format is that people are encouraged by it to actually put a complete thought in each tweet, if not each sentence. A sentence is supposed to be a complete thought, but most writing has a whole bunch of them that aren't, and they're in there for filler. Tweet threads tend to have a whole lot less of that bullshit, and

  • Twitter is basically casual conversation which has never been a good way to disseminate truth. It works great for gossip and lies. But expecting casual conversation to be useful to disseminate truth requires the majority of people to already believe the truth.

  • Perfect for the tweet format.
  • If scientists want to get more citations, impact ratings, etc., they're better off uploading their papers to Sci-Hub. I remember a paper a while back that reported much higher impact ratings for papers as a result of being accessible via Sci-Hub. If you wanna chat/correspond with other academics online, there's other specialised platforms for that & you don't get the same 'cocophony'. I guess you could also link to papers, articles, etc., on Twitter but how much of a difference would that make. Twitter'
  • Maybe something like those PSAs they did when we were kids.

    They're a corporation. This won't drive engagement and therefore revenue. So no, they can't and they won't. They can't because the shareholders and they won't because the shareholders.

    If you want corporations to do something beneficial then it's either an accident, a bribe, or you pass a law forcing them to do it. Those are you options.
  • Finding the truth on an internet web site.

  • Twitter is a fantastic idea. Its implementation (while imperfect) accurately reflects the nature, feelings and beliefs of its constituency. It's a shame the average Twitter user has an average I.Q., it makes Twitter a very unpleasant place. Like a Democracy, Twitter can never be better than it's constituency. And like Democracy, Twitter really sucks - but it's as good as any social media are ever likely to be.
    • by Moryath ( 553296 )

      No, Twitter is a shitty idea, devoid of any redeeming value. The character limits prevent any hope of reasonable discourse, because anything of any nuance or clarity is impossible to say in the length of a bumper sticker. The fact that Twitter got taken over by mentally inferior conservative bigots is a function of this, because it's quite possible to just spew and retweet bigotry nonstop in the length of a bumper sticker.

      Twitter's very design is why the inbred conservative sisterfuckers can all crowd up

      • by mmell ( 832646 )
        You seem to have forgotten where that original message length limit came from. Twitter was as great an idea as the SMS system upon which it was originally based, which in turn was created by someone who thought all those wasted bits in a frame of (T0/E0) data shouldn't be wasted. Don't be petulant just because it ended up the way it did.
    • Twitter's algorithms, like all social media, are designed to maximize engagement. And they keep experimenting with new ways to show you things you don't want to see, in an attempt to rile you up and create more of it ala Faceboot. Luckily so far their community of users has complained loudly every time, keeping them relatively in line, but you know if they were the social media leaders they would do whatever they want to you too.

      • by mmell ( 832646 )
        Like I said, the implementation is imperfect (yes, I'm being very polite). The idea is amazing. SMS turned wasted bits into a fundamental communications (sub)protocol. Twitter widened the exposure from telecommunication devices to the internet.
        Don't blame the engineers for what the MBA's turned Twitter into.
        • Don't blame the engineers for what the MBA's turned Twitter into.

          The MBAs didn't write the algorithms, engineers did. Of course they get to share the blame. We're still acting like free will is a thing, right?

  • Can Twitter Help Disseminate Scientific Information?

    Yes, Rolf Degen's tweets [twitter.com] are an excellent example of that. Twitter format is a great match to his purpose, providing succinct summaries of scientific journal articles in Psychology.

    The notion that "If you can’t explain something in simple terms, you don’t understand it" is differently attributed to various famous smart people, Einstein and Feynman, among them.

    Forcing an explanation into a Tweet-sized limit plausibly improves clarity. Strunk & White exorted "“Omit needless words!

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Forcing an explanation into a Tweet-sized limit plausibly improves clarity.

      To the public, yes. But for communications between scientists, not so much. There, detailed and complete communications wins out over brevity.

      Science isn't a popularity contest. And turning scientific discussion into a "trending topic" will just cheapen it's perceived value and make people doubt it's validity. We already have problems with statements to the effect that "9 out of 10" whatever believe something. With no way for the average reader or even the press to validate non peer reviewed material. Or k

      • by nashv ( 1479253 )

        >Science isn't a popularity contest.

        No, but a career in science is. Putting credible authentic science is only a means to an end - gaining enough academic reputation to win that popularity contest.

  • Try posting the scientific fact "A woman is an adult human with two X-chromosomes" on twitter and see whether it gets disseminated or you get banned.

    • by mmell ( 832646 )

      Try posting the scientific fact "A woman is an adult human with two X-chromosomes"

      But that's not necessarily a scientific fact. I have it on high authority that a woman is a mass of conflicting impulses. Personally, I find them to be [REDACTED], and I especially like their [REDACTED]. Women are different then men, and I say viva la difference!

      I don't understand the forces which could drive any person to alter their physical truth to match their self-perception; but I don't care, either. What's wrong,

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  • It could theoretically.

    Canons can also shoot t-shirts and potatoes.

    I have a feeling that the same level of novelty is involved.

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