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Two Giant Black Holes Colliding Sent Ripples Through Space (usatoday.com) 24

"In a galaxy far, far away, two giant black holes appear to be circling each other like fighters in a galactic boxing ring," reports USA Today.

"Gravity is causing this death spiral, which will result in a collision and formation of a single black hole, a massive event that will send ripples through space and time." The collision itself happened eons ago — the two black holes are located about 9 billion light years from Earth. Scientists won't be able to document it for 10,000 years. Even so, there are imperceptible gravitational waves generated before the collision that are hitting us right now. These waves from the black holes' activity will increase, but will not affect Earth. However, they could help increase our understanding of how our universe has evolved.

Such supermassive black holes "are the most powerful and energetic objects in the universe and they have an enormous effect on the evolution of galaxies and stars," Tony Readhead, an astronomy professor at the California Institute of Technology, told USA TODAY. He is the co-author of the report by Caltech astronomers who detail the discovery in The Astrophysical Journal Letters, a peer-reviewed scientific journal. "If we want to understand the evolution of our universe we need to understand these objects," Readhead said....

Each of the black holes identified in this study has a mass amounting to hundreds of millions of times more than that of our sun, the researchers say. It took about 100 million years for the two objects to converge on their orbit, which has them at a distance of about 50 times that separating our sun and Pluto, NASA said. The two black holes are more than 99% of the way toward colliding, the agency said....

This is only the second pair of orbiting black holes identified by scientists, the researchers say. Space-time undulations from gravitational waves made by two colliding black holes 1.3 billion light-years away were recorded in 2015 by the National Science Foundation's Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory.

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  • When I read "two giant black holes colliding" I immediately thought of that classic 50s scifi movie, "Amazonian space lesbians on heat".
  • Government funding for better gravity wave detectors will be postponed to FY9960

    Meanwhile funding for military procurement will be increased

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    • I'll take "Singularity vs the Event Horizon" for 200, Alex.

    • Why can't I use it to destroy Vulcan?

      Because it still has the mass of a pea. And the gravity of a pea.

      • This is the correct answer. Gravity falls off at the square of the distance. But it does weird shit at extreme distances. These black hole gravity waves are going to cause quantum fluctuations is distant entangled particles. This will cause a breakdown of sentience, periodic lapses in consciousness and erratic behaviour in all living things. I can't wait.
        • So that's why Putin stood up suddenly during that meeting, froze for 3 seconds, then sat down again

        • Gravity falls off at the square of the distance. But it does weird shit at extreme distances.

          Postulated - by the MOND (MOdified Newtonian Dynamics) people, amongst others. It's one of the more respectable challenges to the "Standard Model" of cosmology, but it still doesn't attract much interest (at least, from professional cosmologists) compared to the Standard Model.

          The last time I counted, it was running one or two publications a month on ArXiv, compared to several dozen a day in mainstream cosmologies.

      • by PPH ( 736903 )

        This.

        And at distances outside of the radius of a pea, it's gravitational effects would be indistinguishable from those of a pea.

    • Gravity is related to both mass and distance. So, for ANY object there is some distance such that the gravitational pull would prevent light from escaping. This is the Schwarzschild radius. For normal matter, the objectâ(TM)s own structure prevents anything from getting that close. You would need to pack the entire Earth into something the size of a marble, for instance. You either need a special phase of matter or a TON of matter for the Schwarzschild radius to be observable.
      • So, for ANY object there is some distance such that the gravitational pull would prevent light from escaping

        No, not for any object, for any mass. The Earth's density and mass mean it has no Schwarzschild radius because at no point anywhere is the escape velocity anywhere close to the speed of light. It's not that the structure prevents you from seeing it, it is that it prevents it from existing.

        As the mass of an object goes up the density required for that matter to form a Schwarzschild radius and become a Black Hole decreases. Around the mass of a large galaxy, it's the same density as water.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      You are talking about mathematical singularities. The singularities of physics are mathematical singularities, i.e., where the mathematics describing the physical situation breaks down, not the actual physical situation itself. No one knows what happens behind the Schwarzschild radius. So you can theoretically compress to your hearts desire, you still cannot meaningfully say what happens.

      • This is actually the correct answer : the hypothesized (my emphasis) singularity at the core of a black hole is an expression that "we don't know of anything that can stop the collapse of matter after it goes beyond the density at the core of a 1.7-odd Solar mass neutron star". Which is not incorrect. So, without knowing anything to stop the collapse, a singularity is an uncomfortable deduction. But if you postulate that there is another "stopping point" (say, at a "quark-gluon plasma") then you don't get t
    • I can (theoretically) compress a pea enough to form a singularity. It'll have infinite density in a zero-volume space, just like any other singularity.

      True, but you'll only have it for the tiniest fraction of a second before it immediately decays through Hawking radiation so it will have no time to absorb matter and grow. The smaller the Black Hole the faster it decays. Stellar-sized BHs are probably the longest living things in the universe which are not technically stable but the smaller they are the more rapidly they lose energy and decay.

      This is why the potential of BHs being created at the LHC was never a danger - they would have decayed extremel

    • If the volume of all singularities is zero

      Is it though?

      How do you measure volume, if your ruler is being sucked inwards faster than the speed of light? How do you measure where the mass is if its world line ended at the singularity years ago?

      What about other models for the internals of a black hole, which attempt to unify quantum mechanics? Does the world line actually form a loop at the event horizon?

      We know that our understanding of the physics inside a black hole is probably wrong. Because it doesn't explain how quantum information is absorbed,

    • by idji ( 984038 )
      Black Holes have 3 properties, which are observable (and hence measurable): angular momentum, mass and charge. Volume or radius are not properties of a Black Hole and are unobservable. Hence Density, doesn't make sense so neither does anything you say here about density.
      Yes, you could shrink a pea to something like a primordial black hole. It will still only weigh 1 gram and have a tiny event horizon and still only have the gravitational field of a 1g pea. It would attract mass that was very close and wou
  • The gravitational waves recorded earlier were "a thousand times smaller than the nucleus of an atom" !
    And this one is so much more distant.

    So no military applications I guess ?

  • I hope by then the Year 9999 issue is fixed before then.
  • The Friendly paper, for your R-ing pleasure is at https://iopscience.iop.org/art... [iop.org]

    The first thing that is more informative than (whatever the bit of journalism cited was) is the title : "The Unanticipated Phenomenology of the Blazar PKS 2131â"021: A Unique Supermassive Black Hole Binary Candidate" Blazars are a class of "active galaxy" which are generally quiet, then "blaze up" (hence the name) for short periods, varying rapidly in radio, IR or optical bands. The rapid variation means the source regi

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