US Hits Record Number of New Covid-19 Cases (npr.org) 353
The seven-day average of COVID-19 cases topped 280,000 this week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University's tracker. It's a record number of new cases in the country; the last time the number of cases hit a peak close to that was January. NPR reports: Public health officials including Dr. Anthony Fauci and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky say the new variant appears to be less severe than ones in the past but still emphasize the need to follow public health protocols like getting vaccinated and wearing a mask to curb the spread of the virus. Data from the White House provided at a briefing Wednesday shows the seven-day average of hospitalizations is about 9,000 per day -- which is a 14% increase in hospitalizations from last week. However, there was a 60% rise in cases over the same time frame. The seven-day average of COVID-19 deaths is down from last week, at about 1,100 deaths per day.
Officials say the difference is in part because omicron causes less severe symptoms for those who are vaccinated and especially for those who are boosted. Another reason for the wide gap between the increase in hospitalizations and cases, Fauci said, is that hospitalizations tend to lag behind recorded cases. Still, "all indications point to less severe illness with omicron than delta," he said. [...] Despite the seemingly lower severity of the omicron variant, Fauci emphasized the need for people to get vaccinated and boosted. On Monday, U.S. health officials from the CDC cut isolation restrictions for Americans who catch the coronavirus from 10 to five days, and similarly shortened the time that close contacts need to quarantine.
Officials say the difference is in part because omicron causes less severe symptoms for those who are vaccinated and especially for those who are boosted. Another reason for the wide gap between the increase in hospitalizations and cases, Fauci said, is that hospitalizations tend to lag behind recorded cases. Still, "all indications point to less severe illness with omicron than delta," he said. [...] Despite the seemingly lower severity of the omicron variant, Fauci emphasized the need for people to get vaccinated and boosted. On Monday, U.S. health officials from the CDC cut isolation restrictions for Americans who catch the coronavirus from 10 to five days, and similarly shortened the time that close contacts need to quarantine.
USA! USA! USA! (Score:2, Insightful)
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America is not #1. India has more cases and more deaths.
Even if you look at cases/deaths per capita, America is not #1.
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So yes, America really is #1!
How do you figure that? India has had millions of excess deaths, while the official figures from the US are not much less than the excess deaths.
It is possible that India has had fewer deaths per-capita, but if they really have over 90% antibody positive, the lower per-capita deaths is only possible because of their much lower average age.
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France reported 208,000 cases in ONE day. [aljazeera.com] But Omicron hit there before North America. The USA will have those numbers and more, soon.
Seasonal (Score:2)
A lot of the increase is due to Christmas (and other holidays). Same thing happened last year (although this year seems smaller than last year).
Re: Seasonal (Score:5, Informative)
Hospital admissions are lower.
What are you smoking? Hospitals are once again overwhelmed [wusa9.com] with covid patients [shorenewsnetwork.com], the vast, vast, VAST majority [hobbsnews.com] of whom are [cbsnews.com] unvaccinated [wthr.com].
And as a result, people who need medical attention [seattletimes.com] are once dying because of lack of beds.
But yeah, it's just the sniffles.
Re: Seasonal (Score:2, Informative)
I had to take my kid to the er a few days ago for not-covid (2 kids and 3 not covid er visits in 4 months...lucky us) and it was absolutely empty.
Waiting room was maybe 20% capacity. Primo parking spots available in the er parking garage.
Maybe somewhere else the hospitals are packed but not in massachusetts west of boston where last night they clocked 15k new cases against 5m vaxxed/7m population.
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I'm confused. Weren't you the guy warning us about number-free anecdata in an environment with lots of confounding factors you're not in a position to gauge?
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Jesus H Christ dude. Anecdote != counter example. Read your own sentence!
Also, the fact that a random ER is empty doesn't mean shit regarding capacity. Right now hospitals face the same issue airlines do - staffing. F.ex. a ICU bed is useless if there's no one there to operate it.
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> What are you smoking? Hospitals are once again overwhelmed
Go back to 2019, 2018, 2017... you'll find the hospitals were "overwhelmed" pre-covid every year as well. You only pay attention now because of the media.
https://time.com/5107984/hospi... [time.com]
Sound familiar:
"The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends a
Re: Seasonal (Score:2)
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Wow, it's almost as if when you shitcan a bunch of people it puts a greater strain on the remaining staff.
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> people who need medical attention [seattletimes.com] are once dying because of lack of beds.
That by itself disposes of the "my body my choice" rant.
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That by itself disposes of the "my body my choice" rant.
I don't think it does, exactly. I think that it simply exposes a failure of the health care system. Not just the one about capacity, but the one about unwillingness to prioritize. Specifically, vaccine-skippers should go to the back of the immediate care line if they come in with covid. Not that they should be denied care by any means, only that they should be denied the right to tie up resources needed by people who didn't willfully risk their health and that of others around them.
I think what disposes of
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Hospital admissions are lower.
What are you smoking? Hospitals are once again overwhelmed with covid patients, the vast, vast, VAST majority of whom are unvaccinated.
And as a result, people who need medical attention are once dying because of lack of beds.
It isn't clear to me why hyperbolic news articles and anecdotes should have priority over official CDC data from the present. Admissions are in fact clearly lower.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-da... [cdc.gov]
Maryland just FIRED over 200 healthcare workers and on top of that they are overwhelmed because all of the people showing up to get PCR tests and treatment after the recently distributed at home tests started getting hits due to Omicron spread. These people are needlessly wasting hospital resources. If you look
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It isn't clear to me why hyperbolic news articles and anecdotes should have priority over official CDC data from the present. Admissions are in fact clearly lower.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-da... [cdc.gov]
Nice data, thanks for posting it. One comment, though: the apparent drop on the right-most data point is not real; this is due to the fact that the most recent data is still incompletely reported.
(If you dig down deeper into the fine print on the CDC site, this is explained.)
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Nice data, thanks for posting it. One comment, though: the apparent drop on the right-most data point is not real; this is due to the fact that the most recent data is still incompletely reported.
(If you dig down deeper into the fine print on the CDC site, this is explained.)
I don't think this is likely as 11 days have passed since the last data point but I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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One thing is that if it were *just* an artifact of people more aggressively testing because Biden told them to, then you'd expect a drop in the percent positive, what with a ton of people with no cause starting to test. However, the percent positive has also shot up, meaning either the cases are shooting up or asymptomatic people are no longer bothering to test. Combined with the higher case count, it seems that the former is the case.
However, number of cases isn't the story I'm as interested in as I am the
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And last winter something like 4% of the US was fully vaccinated. Any way you slice it, this new variant is spreading extremely fast.
Here's a good Twitter thread [twitter.com] from a New York ER doctor on the subject. tl;dr, if you're not vaccinated, you immediate future might... not be a lot of fun.
Re: Seasonal (Score:4, Informative)
where is the fucking denominator and what measurements/assumptions/psychoactive substances did you use to arrive at it?
They're called facts [imgur.com].
Re: Seasonal (Score:4, Funny)
- Homer Simpson.
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Holy living shit.
I swear, i don't understand how the mind of someone who refuses a free, riskless life-saving preventive instead of admitting they might be wrong, works. At all.
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Ah, ok, so in your case it was all in your username. My bad.
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No, i'm just assuming you like to nitpick information like, well, most right-wing nutjobs.
Because the guy who posted that thread is a well known figure [columbia.edu], and whose in-the-field observations line up CDC's official metrics [cdc.gov] on the matter.
I thought you guys were all about doing your own research.
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I'm all vaxxed and everything. I just don't like sloppy thinking and pseudoscience being used to justify theft of my time and my money and my freedoms.
So you believe in slightly different conspiracies then..
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https://ourworldindata.org/cov... [ourworldindata.org]
Nice data source, but I do wish they had given hospitalization per capita rather than just total numbers.
The data as graphed is very misleading.
Re:Seasonal (Score:5, Informative)
Nothing slows infection. Not your masks ( cloth, surgical or otherwise ), not the vaccines, not the stupid 6ft social distancing, not the plexiglass barriers.
Actually, things do slow infection, but a large chunk of the population acts like it doesn't and behaves more recklessly spreading it more quickly, then point to them getting infected and saying the things they didn't even try obviously don't work. However, infection by itself isn't horrible except for those who have avoided vaccination. Those recently receiving a shot will have a sore throat, people who haven't had a shot in a while but had received two are feeling a moderate cold, J&J are having a pretty miserable flu level illness, and only the unvaccinated are experiencing severe consequences of breathing problems and death in any significant amount.
I would however like more clarity, with separate tracking for the willfully unvaccinated people versus vaccinated, and allow us to make informed decisions there. I'm willing to mitigate spread with masking for the unvaccinated, but at the same time I would only make so many concessions for people who have a free and easy alternative to protect themselves.
That you haven't heard a single public figure mention diet, exercise, supplements and weight loss is really telling.
Supplements are of dubious to unknown value in this case. Weight loss would be nice, but then again it would *always* be a good idea, so that guidance isn't likely to make people all of a sudden change their lifestyle.
Re:Seasonal (Score:5, Informative)
There isn't a single data set anywhere which shows the efficacy of masks, for instance. Not a single one, world wide, even in high compliance countries.
The CDC disagrees. [cdc.gov]
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There isn't a single data set anywhere which shows the efficacy of masks, for instance. Not a single one, world wide, even in high compliance countries.
Properly selected and worn respiratory protection (PPE) does work as designed and is effective in prevention of disease caused by viral, bacterial, particulate, chemical gasses and vapours, and many other CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiation, Nuclear) respiratory threats (and, with proper gear, contact threats therefrom).
Neither Medical Masks nor Cloth Masks nor Face Diapers qualify as PPE. That is why they do not provide any protection -- they were not designed to protect the wearer -- they are not PPE.
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Re:Seasonal (Score:4, Informative)
There isn't a single data set anywhere which shows the efficacy of masks, for instance. Not a single one, world wide, even in high compliance countries.
You mean other than the ones resulting from the multiple studies commissioned by the WHO in 2020 because of a lack of information, and the outcomes of the study formed the basis for the recommendation for masks? That "not a single one"?
I'd link you directly, but honestly it's nearly 2022. You've made it this far on Slashdot which means that I or someone else has linked you to the studies already (probably multiple times) and you chose to wilfully ignore them.
The "masks don't work" people are the modern day "global warming doesn't exist" morons.
Re:Seasonal (Score:5, Informative)
Nothing slows infection.
Bullshit. If that were true, there would be no ICU staff because they would all be out sick from having it gotten from their patients.
N95/FFP2 masks are pretty reliable. Vaccination is pretty reliable although with Omicron it suffers somewhat and you need that booster. Distance, hand-sanitization, surgical masks work less well, but still have a real effect.
Re:Seasonal (Score:5, Informative)
Wearing any sort of respiratory PPE is completely ineffective and a waste of money (and provides no protection to the wearer)
Total bullshit.
One last time, just for you. [mayoclinic.org]
Re:Seasonal (Score:4, Insightful)
Nothing slows infection. Not your masks ( cloth, surgical or otherwise ), not the vaccines,
This is false. I'd say obviously false, but we live in a very stupid world.
It's time to pivot to early treatment
Why? Prevention is actually really good. Well, if you actually do anything.
That you haven't heard a single public figure mention diet, exercise, supplements and weight loss is really telling.
That's because diet, exercise, supplements, and weight loss won't do anything to prevent or treat a viral infection.
Re:Seasonal (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think there was that much thought put into it.
Doctors, by and large, are plebs not unlike you or I. They go to work, they do what they're told, they go home. Rarely do you get them thinking outside of the box, and when you do it's easy enough to shame them back into line ( which is why, even before this, you were told to be your own healthcare advocate ).
We know that low levels of vitamin D correlate with more severe outcomes. It's the single largest and most consistent correlation, aside from age ( and even there it's #2 ). Why isn't this fact well known? Why don't our public health officials bang on this drum? Why isn't our media making this front and center news?
Weight is another significant factor; why haven't we been told that we should be out in the sunlight exercising?
Want to know what's great about those two things above? They have significant benefits even beyond c19. Yet not a fucking peep.
Why is that?
Records all over the world ... (Score:5, Informative)
Daily records were broken in many countries: UK [data.gov.uk], Canada [canada.ca], USA [cdc.gov], France, Australia, ...etc.
Omicron is spreading like wild fire everywhere.
If the expectation that it is mild continues to hold, this may be good news after all. Vast swaths of the population will get some immunity, without much risk of disease.
Regardless: go get vaccinated if you have not been. ...
Get a booster if you are.
The vaccines still reduce your chances of hospitalization dramatically
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A couple months ago the German Ministry of Health stirred a bit of a shitstorm when he stated that everyone will be either vaccinated, recovered or dead by the end of this winter. [twitter.com]
Sadly, he might very well be right.
Well these certain statements didn't age well (Score:3, Informative)
March 2, 2020, Donald Trump - “We’re talking about a much smaller range” of deaths than from the flu"
March 4, 2020, Donald Trump - "It’s very mild,” he told Sean Hannity
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Maybe Trump was just ahead of his time... you know, Omicron is. after all not apparently as severe as previous strains. If the covid19 strain evolution trend over time is any indication, it *will* be a march smaller range of deaths than from the flu.
Eventually.
You know what they say about stopped clocks eventually being right...
Oh my goodness (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Oh my goodness (Score:4, Informative)
None of you are actually trying to understand the other's point of view.
I mean I suppose that proudly ignoring facts can be considered a point of view.
That's what we have here, one group who is more or less following scientific advice on one side, and the right wing on the other.
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Most everything in life is a spectrum or wave phenomena. In both cases, there are easy interpretations of these process that lead to "two sides". With a spectrum we basically have a 1-dimensional line and we can often look at one side as positive and the other negative, higher or lower, good and bad, and so on. A concept of Yin and Yang doesn't deny the perspective of "Good" and "Bad" or other two-sides (e.g. it can also be interpreted as "plant" and "animal") but rather it denies them as being two mutually
Re:Oh my goodness (Score:5, Interesting)
Apparently the Right no longer is associated with Jesus.
https://baptistnews.com/articl... [baptistnews.com]
The fastest-growing religious groups on the Right are 1) Norse Paganism and 2) Unification Church (moonies). I am not joking.
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Here's a tip: not every argument has two sides.
This one does, clearly. So you're point is completely irrelevant.
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China isn't exactly a step forward.
Oh, please... get un-deranged (Score:5, Insightful)
First, your "horse dewormer" comment is almost certainly a reference to ivermectin, which propagandized morons refer to as "horse dewormer" but normal people refer to as a prescription medication that has many uses (including de-worming livestock, but also treating HUMANS for various conditions). If we label any medication that has animal uses as an animal medication, then many common human meds (like most antibiotics) would be classed as animal meds. That's idiotic. The CDC itself recommends Ivermectin for HUMANS immigrating to the USA as shown HERE [cdc.gov] not for COVID-19 but for parasitic issues. Humans tinkering with Ivermectin for COVID-19 are not doing it with the illusion that the drug fights COVID, but rather that some of the side-effects of it may reduce the severity of a COVID infection. Personally, I doubt it helps, but people should be free to try it.
Second, your "bleach" comment is almost certainly a reference to the accusation that the Bad Orange Man told people to inject or drink bleach - which he did not do. Trump got a briefing by medical researchers early in COVID in which they told him about efforts to use UV light via fiber optics in the lungs, use disinfectants, and so forth. He came out of the briefing and did what lots of executives do... gave a poor summary of what he'd been shown (but not telling people to mainline or drink bleach). Speaker Pelosi then went to the floor of the House, where the US Constitution prevents speakers from being charged with libel, and she boldly claimed Trump had told people to drink Lysol. Others on the left then began parroting her accusation but they morphed the accusation to bleach. subsequently, when people asked Trump about recommending bleach, he clearly just dodged by saying something like "I was joking", which was taken by some as proof he had made the original comment, but there's no evidence he did.
You probably just were trying to make a joke, but this stuff is serious and the avalanche of lies being flung about as factoids are one of the reasons our society is so divided these days and people find it so hard to talk across partisan lines - when we cannot even agree on facts and each side embraces factoids instead, there's no way to honestly discuss anything and people just resort to shouting. That's a mighty steep societal price to pay for a quick laugh.
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Idiots really are destroying their intestinal lining eating horse paste. They think they're pooping out worms.
You're encouraging them.
It's hard to tell if you're working with them or against them...
this stuff is serious and the avalanche of lies being flung about as factoids are one of the reasons our society is so divided these days
So stop spreading lies! WTF is wrong with you?!
Re:Oh, please... get un-deranged (Score:4, Informative)
Politifact
"Trump did not explicitly recommend ingesting a disinfectant like bleach. But he did express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection inside the body, such as the lungs.
Responding to confusion over Trumpâ(TM)s comments, the maker of Lysol said in a statement that "under no circumstance" should its products be used in the human body."
Trump:
"So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."
Etc.
"On April 24, 2020, Trump suggested that the coronavirus could be treated by injecting disinfectant, like bleach, into the body.
âoeAnd then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute,â he said. âoeAnd is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.â "
It's hard to pin trump down he as a natural way of avoiding speaking in a way that prevents him being pinned down-- sort of like "will no one rid me of this turbulent priest" - but poisonings due to ingesting bleach and other disinfectants rose after his statement.
and finally... that noted *Liberal* Rag, REASON:
https://reason.com/2020/04/24/... [reason.com]
"Did the president recommend that Americans inject themselves with bleach as a COVID-19 cure or prophylactic? Strictly speaking, no. As McEnany emphasized, he said "you're going to have to use medical doctors" for that sort of thing. But he did idly speculate that, since disinfectants kill the COVID-19 virus on surfaces, it was worth investigating whether they might work as a treatment, and he specifically mentioned "injection," which was not only scientifically naive but reckless given the prevalence of quack remedies and wacky ideas about how to ward off the disease."
Read the article for full context (plus more on the light).
Death rates in the U.S. lead the world.
Here are the top states with the highest death rates:
1 Mississippi 3,494
2 Alabama 3,348
3 Arizona 3,295
4 New Jersey 3,250
5 Louisiana 3,220
6 New York 3,064
7 Tennessee 3,018
8 Arkansas 3,009
9 Georgia 2,943
10 West Virginia 2,935
11 Massachusetts 2,913
12 Oklahoma 2,907
13 Florida 2,905
14 Michigan 2,868
15 Rhode Island 2,849
16 South Carolina 2,826
17 Pennsylvania 2,817
18 South Dakota 2,791
19 Indiana 2,787
20 New Mexico 2,754
21 Nevada 2,716
22 Montana 2,712
23 Kentucky 2,703
24 Wyoming 2,637
25 North Dakota 1,858
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"Weâ(TM)re going to win so much, youâ(TM)re going to be so sick and tired of winning".
He got that one exactly right on all points.
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If you claim it is a horse only medication when it's literally available for humans and it's widely used to treat all sorts of ills in the third world, you're kinda discrediting it.
Re:Quick quick! (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, Ivermectin has a number of (very useful) medical uses for humans as well.
It just so happens none of those are remotely related to COVID, no matter how much anti-vaxxers shout about it.
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Exactly.
The problem is that the side effect of all this "horse paste" propaganda is that the actual useful uses of ivermectin may be harmed by it.
It's more complicated than that... (Score:5, Informative)
It's actually quite a bit more complicated than that. That said, even if we believed every study on Ivermectin, it wouldn't be as good as getting vaccinated.
It's well covered here [substack.com] and in a follow-up here [substack.com], but the tl;dr is that people became (rightfully) skeptical of Ivermectin after people looked at that Egyptian study's data and found that it was ~20 rows copy/pasted a bunch of times and therefore many believe it to be fraudulent for that reason. There have been a few other studies which had problems, which are discussed (and then ignored) in the links prior.
That said, we're left with some studies showing an effect and others showing none and it's not clear why that pattern exists. The links above speculate that it could possibly be due to Ivermectin treating undiagnosed parasitic infections that might be creating complications in some Covid patients in some parts of the world, but it's not clear if this is actually the case. Other factors like publication bias can also be having an effect.
So it may be useful at least some of the time and we shouldn't have some kind of knee-jerk reaction against the very idea of such treatment. That said, as I mentioned at the very start, Ivermectin is nowhere near as effective as getting vaccinated.
Vaccination was, and remains, our first line of defense.
Re:It's more complicated than that... (Score:5, Insightful)
Egypt? Forget Egypt. That's old news. We now look at the roaring success of India's Ivermectin campaign to get the virus under control. They are the only smart government out there and showing how well it works.
Oh shit they stopped using it because it didn't work:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/... [thehindu.com]
https://science.thewire.in/hea... [thewire.in]
Damn... okay bear with me, I'm looking for some other made up false science study pushed by far right media to support my beliefs. One second. ... errr until I find one let's just say Inidia are stupid since everyone knows Ivermectin only works when taken with Vitamin D and garlic supplements. /s
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It just so happens none of those are remotely related to COVID
https://www.nature.com/article... [nature.com]
Re:Quick quick! (Score:4, Interesting)
That's not exactly true. One common human internal parasite, Strongyloides stercoralis, suppresses immune reactions on a way that makes COVID-19 infections worse. Many of the better-quality studies reporting good effects from ivermectin are from areas with high rates of Strongyloides infection, and treating that infection can indirectly improve COVID-19 outcomes. As usual, Scott Alexander [substack.com] has more than you probably wanted to know, including why roundworm infection can't explain all the studies that are positive on ivermectin.
But the takeaway is still that ivermectin almost certainly doesn't help a COVID-19 infection unless you also have an immune-suppressing parasite that ivermectin does treat.
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For supposedly educated people you guys show an amazing disregard for medical literature. Check out ivmmeta.org for a very interesting meta-analysis of the actual performance if ivermectin in dozens of studies. Only two studies showed negative results. The meta-analysis suggests ivermectin is about 83% effective as a prophylaxis, and about the same level of effectiveness as an early treatment.
Further studies into the way it works shows it attacks the same cleavage site as the new Pfizer early treatment prod
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go... [nih.gov]
Here, have a pre-stupidity article.
It is used, regularly by health organizations to combat all sorts of horrifying tropical parasites
I bet it is lowering the death among the people that belive on the covid combating bullshit because is treats unrelated diseases they have due poor hygiene.
You know it has side effects right? (Score:5, Insightful)
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This.
Ivermectin *will* destroy your intestinal lining if you self-medicate with it. Not "if".
Re:rsilvergun == kill yourself WITH A GUN (Score:5, Insightful)
On most of the sites, they are calling for the STANDARD 200ug/kg dosage no more than once a day.
Oh, I get it. CNN told you so, and they also told you that everyone who doesn't get on his knees to fellate Jeff Zucker believes in QAnon.
"No more than once a day"? The standard ivermectin dosage for humans is 150ug/kg in A SINGLE DOSE. If you need multiple doses, they're spread months apart!
Please don't play with drugs. You're not a doctor, and can literally end up killing yourself.
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Re:rsilvergun == kill yourself WITH A GUN (Score:4, Informative)
Ready and sitting down? Got a helmet on to protect your forehead from the imminent forehead slap of disbelief?
The dumbfucks who overdose on horse paste and destroy their intestinal lining as a result start pooping out the sloughed-off lining... Then they go around saying that it's curing them of parasites because they're pooping out "worms."
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My God.
Idiocracy was a documentary.
Re:rsilvergun == kill yourself WITH A GUN (Score:4, Interesting)
My God.
Idiocracy was a documentary.
No. You'd like to think so, but sadly it wasn't, and almost had notes of optimism to it.
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho realised that Not Sure was really smart and might have the answers. In other words he was willing to trust experts and follow their advice.
If anything, idiocracy failed to predict quite how stupid people can be.
Re:Quick quick! (Score:5, Informative)
Uttar Pradesh forgot how to count as soon as their spike ended
https://www.newswise.com/factc... [newswise.com]
India stopped recommending the use of ivermectin for the management of the virus in September, citing a lack of scientific evidence of its benefits. Researchers at the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) did not find enough evidence for Ivermectin and Hydroxycholoquine as potential therapeutics targeted against COVID-19.*
https://healthfeedback.org/cla... [healthfeedback.org]
The article didn't provide any evidence supporting a causal link between the use of ivermectin and the sharp decline of COVID-19 cases in Uttar Pradesh other than regional government recommendation. Many other factors, including immunity from previous infection, vaccination, and lockdowns, likely helped reduce the number of cases. Public health authorities, including the Indian Council of Medical Research, currently don't recommend ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment due to the lack of evidence supporting its use.
and the Japanese suddenly developed genetic differences which started protecting them
https://www.usatoday.com/story... [usatoday.com]
Inaccurate claims that Japan authorized ivermectin for COVID-19 began circulating online after Haruo Ozaki, chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, recommended the drug for COVID-19 patients during a press conference on Aug. 13. The medical group and Ozaki are not affiliated with the Japanese government, and members of the organization can only provide suggestions, according to independent fact-check organizations.
Fucking idiots.
Oh the irony. Still not a single peer reviewed study that shows ivermectin is effective in treating or preventing COVID-19 but right wing nutjobs still believe memes shared on Facebook.
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Re:Quick quick! (Score:4, Insightful)
Those sites are lousy sources. Their effect ranges are seriously skewed as a result of methodological flaws. https://ebm.bmj.com/content/ea... [bmj.com] and https://opmed.doximity.com/art... [doximity.com] and https://arstechnica.com/scienc... [arstechnica.com] go into detail about the deep and numerous problems in that family of sites.
Re:Quick quick! (Score:5, Informative)
Great on parasites, but not so much on covid. Even the people who make it state as such. https://www.merck.com/news/mer... [merck.com]
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If that's what you took away from that, all I have to say to you is, apple-flavored or not apple-flavored?
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It is not horse only. But it is not COVID medication and a few morons have actually bought the horse variant, took the horse dosage and poisoned themselves.
Re:The stuff people were taking (Score:5, Informative)
Discovery of ivermectin received a Nobel Prize because of its value in treating parasitic diseases in humans. It is not a "horse only" medication.
Now, that says nothing whatsoever about its efficacy against COVID-19, but there is no value in countering misinformation with misinformation. Ivermectin has been used in humans, the dosages and side effects are known, and, yes, ivermectin used on horses is the same molecule as ivermectin used for humans, with the exception of dosage.
https://www.nobelprize.org/upl... [nobelprize.org]
https://www.nobelprize.org/upl... [nobelprize.org]
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FWIW shame doesn't work because these people have no shame. Trying to shame extreme conservacucks for taking horse dewormer is like trying to shame the people of walmart for their fashion sense. They're only ever going to think you're an asshole, and an idiot. They will be half right, because trying to shame them into good behavior is literally something culture has tried and failed to do already.
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One wonders what would happen if we also started blanket testing for the other 4 human coronaviruses out there each winter.
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Re:That Trump guy (Score:5, Insightful)
He created a monster that is now out of control. Says he received a booster shot at a rally and gets booed by fans. Why would they boo him over such great things he did like operation warp speed? https://thehill.com/homenews/a... [thehill.com]
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Well, he didn't create the monster, though he certainly did his best to feed it. If he had created it, then it wouldn't turn on him like that.
Re:That Trump guy (Score:5, Informative)
I doubt most of that. It didn't take rocket scientist to figure out that a new virus required a vaccine to counter it. The CDC and NiH were behind the initial push. If you recall, Dear Leader promised the virus would wane by April of June of 2020. It stubbornly refused to. Then he claimed it would be over by summer, then summer's end, and so on; all was based on nothing except him wanting the crisis to be over.
And when the new administration took over, they asked for the deployment plan from the old administration. There was one but it was just a pages of crap.
I do not recall Dear Leader saying the vaccine was the answer to anything except his alleged re-election. That was the only reason he pushed the vaccine and was livid when it wasn't ready by election day. This after denigrating vaccines for other diseases earlier in his diseased career. He also promoted hydroxychloroquine and pissed over mask protocols. He then proceeded to get his staff sick.
The Republicans aren't fixing anything. If anything, they are a detriment to getting the virus under control. Just check out the counties vaxed and those unvaxed. The unvaxed skew red and their states' governors whine incessantly about local mask mandates. And to put a cherry on it, a group of them have their knickers in a twist over DoD requiring vaccination for National Guard members.
Re:That Trump guy (Score:5, Insightful)
Did he create the monster, or did the monster create him? They were always there, just waiting for someone to tell them what they wanted to hear; How they were special, how everything that is wrong isn't their fault, how they can keep doing what they're doing forever and never face any consequences. It shouldn't surprise anyone that they don't listen when he tells them something they're not interested in.
Re:That Trump guy (Score:5, Informative)
Trump rose to prominence by telling the brainwashed extreme right whatever they wanted to hear, and by openly encouraging all of their worst impulses and giving them license to be, as a certain someone put it, "deplorable." Then his drug-addled, syphilis-eaten, walnut-sized brain realized that as long as he kept doing that, they would keep feeding his diseased narcissist ego's infinite need for praise, and the runaway feedback loop was closed.
The GQP spent the best part of 25 years setting the stage for someone like Trump. The only thing that's surprising it that it took as long as it did for the extreme-right cult to be co-opted. It was the entire world's bad luck that the one who co-opted it is an absolute monster.
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Not only did he play the right wing, he played that special segment of the right wing, the Evangelicals. They somehow are for guns but against abortion rights. They are no longer Christian but have devolved into the worst sort of human. They care for nothing except political power so they can express their inner dictator.
First rule of Dear Leader: he destroys everything he touches, even the Christian beliefs that the Evangelicals used to have.
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They are no longer Christian but have devolved into the worst sort of human.
I've got news for you, Jesus spent a whole shitload of time on loving your neighbor and how the rich couldn't get into heaven, and how you should give everything to the poor until there are no poor, or no rich depending on how you look at it. Consequently only a few cultists considered wingnuts by most of society are actually good Christians. Now to be fair, that stuff was written at a time when most of the Christians were very poor, so they didn't have to do anything to change their lifestyles to get into
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The GQP spent the best part of 25 years setting the stage for someone like Trump.
Indeed. What I find sad/funny is that the right wing has now fully embraced ivory tower post-modernist ideas that they used to (sensibly!) ridicule. Facts are subjective, feelings are what matters. And it's not just Trump, but old-guard GOPers like Newt Gingrich [forbes.com].
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Thats how I knew he never had any intention of actually building a wall. [...] You should have just let him try, and fail.
That's what happened, though.
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Germany here. We have the same kind of people known as "Schwurbler". They are commonly associated with the right although the right doesn't look too happy about it.
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Re:That Trump guy (Score:5, Insightful)
No you are giving Trump too much credit for calling him diabolical.
He is just a Narcissist who only cares about himself. When it started in China, he was more interested in using that as a point to show how much China sucks.
When it started to hit the United States, it hit the states that didn't vote for him first (due to them actually being placed people want to visit) so that was just showing how unprepared liberals are. When these Liberal states needed to respond they created a haphazard set of rules and policies due to not getting clear federal direction.
Trump used these things that the States tried to implement as a what not to do, so he did the opposite.
Trump isn't the enemy, he is too wrapped up in himself to think on how he is affecting everyone else.
Who the real enemies are are the people who know better, but got so caught up in standing for their political party, vs trying to take modest steps to keep others safe. They were so caught up in making Liberals Suffer, even if they suffer more from it.
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The ultimate irony is that the one real success you can point to in his administration - the rapid development of effective vaccines - his supporters boo him for because he spent a year saying nothing about the vaccines and watching his supporters die while taking quack cures that do nothing, or actually cause harm. Now he needs those votes (unless he's going to embrace the voter fraud he's been pewling about for months that doesn't exist) so he's changing his tune and the hardcore base is shitting themsel
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https://healthfeedback.org/cla... [healthfeedback.org]
The one about the spike protein being toxic was obvious nonsense. It wouldn't have been considered as a target if it were. It wouldn't have gotten past animal trials if it were. If it were somehow only toxic to humans that would have been caught in Phase I.
Lab supply houses sell spike protein so they have to have safety data sheets for it. There's some ÐYA boilerplate about washing it off but the bottom line is they say "not hazardous".
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Honestly, the fact that he was interviewed by no other than Joe Rogan should be enough of a red flag.
Re:Dr. Peter A. McCullough on Coronavirus (Score:5, Informative)
None of these vaccines are FDA approved.
Pfizer's vaccine got full FDA approval this August. Not that it will make any difference to you, just pointing out.
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Ok, so now a FDA approval is no longer a FDA approval.
I give up.
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Pfizer's vaccine got full FDA approval this August
The Pfizer approval pep rally that made the news in August was solely a marketing ploy. That shot has never been officially available in the US.
Incorrect. Pfizer's vaccine got full FDA approval in August. See, for example, https://crsreports.congress.go... [congress.gov]
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Incorrect. Pfizer's vaccine got full FDA approval in August. See, for example
The drug companies are playing legal word games and the government is complicit. You can't get a Pfizer shot in the US that isn't labeled for EUA. Comirnaty is simply not available. This is being done intentionally for legal liability reasons. I can't think of a better way to build public confidence.
https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2021... [lynnwoodtimes.com]
Re:Dr. Peter A. McCullough on Coronavirus (Score:4, Informative)
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-b... [fda.gov]
"The FDA-approved Comirnaty (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the two EUA authorized formulations of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for ages 12 years and older, when prepared according to their respective instructions for use, can be used interchangeably without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns. Therefore, providers can use doses distributed under EUA to administer the vaccination series as if the doses were the licensed vaccine. For purposes of administration, doses distributed under the EUA are interchangeable with the licensed doses."
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That is a lie.
At the time Pfizer's vaccine was approved, a lot of idiots tried to make a big deal of the fact that the approved vaccine has a different name than the EUA vaccine. But as noted in the FDA approval letter, they are identical - the only difference is the name.
Re:Dr. Peter A. McCullough on Coronavirus (Score:5, Informative)
>None of these vaccines are FDA approved
https://www.fda.gov/news-event... [fda.gov]
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What I like about this particular satire is that this is exactly the kind of shit that Faux News hosts say all the damn time.