India Crosses the Milestone of 1 Billion COVID-19 Vaccinations (npr.org) 41
India has administered 1 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccine, officials said Thursday, passing a milestone for the South Asian country where the delta variant fueled its first crushing surge earlier this year. From a report: About 75% of India's total eligible adult population have received at least one dose, while around 30% are fully immunized. The country of nearly 1.4 billion people is the second to exceed a billion cumulative doses after the most populous country China did so in June. Coronavirus cases have fallen sharply in India since the devastating months at the start of the year when the highly transmissible delta variant, first detected in the country a year ago, was infecting hundreds of thousands daily, sending COVID-19 patients into overwhelmed hospitals and filling cremation grounds. Officials have bolstered the vaccination campaign in recent months, which experts say have helped control the outbreak since. The country began its drive in January. Still, there remains a worrying gap between those who have received one shot and those fully immunized. Ramping up the second dose is "an important priority," V K Paul, the head of the country's COVID-19 taskforce, said at a briefing last week.
Well done, India (Score:5, Insightful)
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Pandemic [wikipedia.org]: A pandemic (from Greek , pan, "all" and , demos, "local people" the 'crowd') is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of individuals.
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The article fails to mention that India is not using any Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines. India produces a lot of it's own vaccine using inactivated virus [wikipedia.org].
And in this country people who won't take the modern ones won't take the old fashioned ones either.
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You and your silly definitions and facts. Next thing you will say is that a virus can be infectious. We all know that is just nonsense.**
**yes that was sarcasm
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> There's a pandemic of mental retardation going on as well.
Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity
https://youtu.be/ww47bR86wSc [youtu.be]
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You are right, a lot of people acted by fear, and the consequences are irreversible.
As opposed to the millions that died. And as we all know death is completely reversible.
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Just under 1% of people die every year, and about 1% of new people arrive to take their place each year.
This results in a steady population in the US of about 330 million people.
1% of 330M is about 3.3M. Roughly 2.4-3M people die on any given year.
Millions died in 2020, more actually. But that is common for any given year. Certainly there weren't a million extra deaths in 2020 as that would put us in the 4 million territory.
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steady population in the US of ...
Welcome to planet Earth where there are other countries than the US. Millions of people died worldwide, and whilst US was one of the worst countries with the most disastrous response in 2020 (and is only just starting to do better recently, depending on who's running your state) it wasn't close to the majority of deaths.
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So if you're on their side, lean back and watch the overpopulation issues solve themselves. And then move the goalposts when it doesn't actually happen. That is if you're still alive. Because at this rate it's the COVIDiots that are being decimated.
You just have to take a look at some of the Eastern European countries that were affected the most by anti-vaccine propaganda. There's low vaccination
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around 30% are fully immunized
Is that really a fair statement when the vaccines they've been using are Covishield, Covaxin and Sputnik V?
Re: Well done, India (Score:2, Troll)
Covidshield aka astrazeneca but not produced for superior race of better people.
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Either way it's "substandard" to the U.S. FDA requirements.
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US FDA isn't an authority of the world though. So... it is fair to say people are just as well immunized as USA citizens.
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And yet you'll still see people referring to the vaccine as "experimental" or "untested".
I'm pretty sure that when you go into 10 digits of people that have been inoculated, you can't call it untested any more.
3rd World Availability (Score:2, Troll)
India can handle itself but many 3rd-world nations simply can't get supply of vaccines. Meanwhile some unseemly Americans are bragging about getting a third covid shot while many people who want them around the world can't get even one. It's not a good look.
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It's generally not a zero sum game. Many 3rd world countries simply don't have the infrastructure to store and distribute vaccines even if shiploads arrived at their docks/borders.
While our military can help with such tasks, many countries are not comfortable with US soldiers lurking around their land.
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many countries are not comfortable with US soldiers lurking around their land.
they shouldn't worry too much unless they have an exploitable natural resource that a well connected US company wants.
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If it's not oil or minerals, it's cheap labor, or an excuse to fund the MIC.
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And that's what makes this one impressive, India is an impoverished country with massive overpopulation, massive poverty, and people living in isolated villages in the middle of nowhere with nothing, but they've still achieved a higher vaccination rate (first-shot so far) than many parts of the US have.
Not "immunized". (Score:2, Informative)
It's "vaccinated".
The two terms mean different things. Immunized means the drug confers lifelong immunity from infection, so you only need it basically once (or once every few decades). Think measles shot.
Vaccinated means the shot wears off eventually and you have to keep getting new ones. Think seasonal flu.
That's the rough situation.
All covid vaccines so far wear off, so you get vaccinated with them, not immunised.
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> All covid vaccines so far wear off, so you get vaccinated with them, not immunized.
So if you're vaccinated, you need to get revaccinated every 6 months to top off protection.
But if you have natural immunity, you get sick every 16 months to top off protection.
https://thehill.com/changing-a... [thehill.com]
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Quote from the article:
There's no statement about the vaccinated.
So what does the study say about vaccinated people? Let's take a look at the actual paper: https://www.ncbi.n [nih.gov]
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> Really the only thing that can plausibly be speculated based on this is that the mentioned 'peak antibody response' is stronger in those who recover from an infection
Does anyone question this. Even Sanjay Gupta admitted this on The Joe Rogan Experience.
> But if you consider that each infection bears a lot more risk than getting the vaccine, that's still some really stupid Russian roulette you're playing there.
Most, > 60% of people beat it and don't even know they had it or thought it was a commo
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That is not how science works. That is how Star Trek episode of the week plot writing works. It can make for entertaining stories, but it's very bad if you're interesting in finding solutions.
You see th
Fully immunized? (Score:3, Insightful)
About 75% of India's total eligible adult population have received at least one dose, while around 30% are fully immunized.
"Fully immunized" is a phrase full of expectations that aren't being realized. Vaccines do not provide "full immunity", just "improved immunity" or "improved resistance". To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.
Additionally, different vaccines have different recommended dosages. Some are one dose, the most popular require two. Although at least one now recommends three. There may be a need for annual boosters.
So the correct phrasing would be "have received all recommended doses" of the vaccine in use.
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You and the poster a few posts above you should get your stories straight. They were parsing the difference being being vaccinated and being immunized. According to them, immunization provides full immunity. You cannot contract whatever. You are saying the opposite.
To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.
The morons will find any excuse regardless of the facts. The number of people who have died from covid despite receiving the vaccine is something around 7,000. That is compared to the overal total of approximately 740,000 who have died. That works out to 0.009%. To them, that just shows how ineffective these vaccines are (that's sarcasm in case you missed it).
What they deliberately fail to mention, and will deny, is the vast majority of those 7,000 people were above the age or 65 and/or had underlying medical conditions, two groups already known to be at risk from covid.
They don't lack ammunition when it comes to lies and conspiracy theories. Just intelligence.
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To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.
The goal is to educate, not cater to morons who don't understand the difference between immunization and actually being immune. The anti-vax people don't need ammunition. They'll just make up bullshit on their own. The people on the fringe... well they are the ones still open to the idea of learning and are likely receptive to the idea of "fully immunized" being a definition related to a drug, not a declaration of your body's ability to combat a virus.
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"Fully immunized" is a phrase full of expectations that aren't being realized. Vaccines do not provide "full immunity", just "improved immunity" or "improved resistance". To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.
It's not a binary. To the degree that vaccines are shown less effective or less durable, anti-vaxxers have a stronger argument against mandates - especially if their personal risk is small due to demographics / natural immunity.
So far it looks like lasting
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About 75% of India's total eligible adult population have received at least one dose, while around 30% are fully immunized.
"Fully immunized" is a phrase full of expectations that aren't being realized. Vaccines do not provide "full immunity", just "improved immunity" or "improved resistance". To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.
Additionally, different vaccines have different recommended dosages. Some are one dose, the most popular require two. Although at least one now recommends three. There may be a need for annual boosters.
So the correct phrasing would be "have received all recommended doses" of the vaccine in use.
Better phrasing would be "fully vaccinated" which can always be amended to include "with a booster".
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Totally agree. Many people think one is enough, thinking in terms of old style vaccines, but this is a different virus and a different kind of a vaccine.