High Ivermectin Overdosages Caused 1,143 Calls to America's Poison Control Centers This Year (npr.org) 440
America's poison control centers are getting more calls this year from people who tried self-medicating with ivermectin, NPR reports — with at least 592 calls coming since July 1:
According to the National Poison Data System, which collects information from the nation's 55 poison control centers, there was a 245% jump in reported exposure cases from July to August — from 133 to 459. Meanwhile, emergency rooms across the country are treating more patients who have taken the drug... Most patients are overdosing on a [high-concentration] version of the drug that is formulated to treat parasites in cows and horses... The National Poison Data System says 1,143 ivermectin exposure cases were reported between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31. That marks an increase of 163% over the same period last year...
Minnesota's Poison Control System is dealing with the same problem. According to the department, only one ivermectin exposure case was reported in July, but in August, the figure jumped to nine. Kentucky has seen similar increases. Thirteen misuse calls have been reported this year, Ashley Webb, director of the Kentucky Poison Control Center, told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added.
"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it," the FDA said in a renewed warning late last month.
Those with a prescription from a health care provider should only fill it "through a legitimate source such as a pharmacy, and take it exactly as prescribed," the agency instructs. It also cautioned that large doses of the drug are "dangerous and can cause serious harm" and said that doses of ivermectin produced for animals could contain ingredients harmful to humans. The agency added: "Even the levels of ivermectin for approved human uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death."
At least two more states — Louisiana and Washington — have also "issued alerts after an uptick in calls to poison control centers," according to a health writer for the Associated Press: By mid-August U.S. pharmacies were filling 88,000 weekly prescriptions for the medication, a 24-fold increase from pre-COVID levels, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Meanwhile, U.S. poison control centers have seen a five-fold increase in emergency calls related to the drug, with some incidents requiring hospitalization.
Minnesota's Poison Control System is dealing with the same problem. According to the department, only one ivermectin exposure case was reported in July, but in August, the figure jumped to nine. Kentucky has seen similar increases. Thirteen misuse calls have been reported this year, Ashley Webb, director of the Kentucky Poison Control Center, told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added.
"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it," the FDA said in a renewed warning late last month.
Those with a prescription from a health care provider should only fill it "through a legitimate source such as a pharmacy, and take it exactly as prescribed," the agency instructs. It also cautioned that large doses of the drug are "dangerous and can cause serious harm" and said that doses of ivermectin produced for animals could contain ingredients harmful to humans. The agency added: "Even the levels of ivermectin for approved human uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death."
At least two more states — Louisiana and Washington — have also "issued alerts after an uptick in calls to poison control centers," according to a health writer for the Associated Press: By mid-August U.S. pharmacies were filling 88,000 weekly prescriptions for the medication, a 24-fold increase from pre-COVID levels, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Meanwhile, U.S. poison control centers have seen a five-fold increase in emergency calls related to the drug, with some incidents requiring hospitalization.
Why do we even try to save lives anymore? (Score:5, Insightful)
We have a Vaccine, which by now has been distributed to millions/billions of people around the world. With mostly minor short term effects. That in the United States is freely distributed (yes, yes I know our tax money is paying for it.) Which is also proven to be working well, including over a 90% efficiency rate with the current mutation.
While people decide to pay for a drug that isn't designed for humans, nor tested or dosed for humans, which also isn't a vaccine.
I know their echo chambers are telling everyone over and over again to not trust the government, don't trust the scientist.
Because whenever there is something very complex the Scientist and Experts try to explain it. then they get all angry, because they don't understand such a complex idea, so they simplify it down, this goes on for a few iterations to a point where the Science give a very rudimentary explanation to the problem that the dummies kinda finally get, but then start going crazy poking holes in such a simple explanation.
It like I am trying to save a trapped animal, but because they are trying to attack me, I cannot save them and they die anyways.
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Ivermectin has a pretty good track record of doing nothing for COVID-19, but it absolutely has been tested, has doses developed, and prescriptions written for humans. There are very good reasons for people to not take animal formulations of it, and to get advice from a good doctor so that they don't take a drug that won't help them, but "a drug that isn't designed for humans, nor tested [] for humans, which also isn't a vaccine" covers none of them.
Re: Why do we even try to save lives anymore? (Score:3)
Re:Why do we even try to save lives anymore? (Score:5, Informative)
No it is not. The idea of using Ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment started as a video emerged of a chairperson in the Japanese Medical Association saying he recommended doctors in Japan start using the drug to treat COVID-19. Many posts online containing the video make it seem like the video was filmed in August; however, it was filmed in February. Seven months later, Japan has not approved of Ivermectin to be used to treat COVID-19.
Meanwhile, ivermectin study withdrawn: https://www.nature.com/article... [nature.com]
Re:Why do we even try to save lives anymore? (Score:5, Informative)
Liar. Here are the latest treatment guidelines from Japan's ministry of health: https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content... [mhlw.go.jp]
No mention of Ivermectin.
From page 9:
"As of August 2nd , 2021, drugs approved for the treatment of COVID-19 in Japan include Remdesivir, Dexamethasone, Baricitinib, and Ronapreve (newly
approved as fast-track approval on July 19th, 2021)."
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I know their echo chambers are telling everyone over and over again to not trust the government, don't trust the scientist.
When was the last time Slashdot told US not to trust authority? You shouldn't even need to dig deep or go very far. It's practically a tenet around here. And yes some of you are hard on scientists as well. It's easy to talk about "they" when our own pig-pen stinks.
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I don't get it either. I just use them to prolong my home office for as long as I can. Because as long as infection numbers stay up, I can continue working from home. And they are basically the only ones pulling that weight now that everyone else is vaccinated and their chances to keep those numbers high enough are rather low,
So I'm all for them taking bleach, or horse medicine, or whatever the miracle cure du jour is, as long as they still get infected and keep those numbers going, I'm fine with that.
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Because it's not fair to punish people (Score:2)
There's also the matter of mutations and breakthrough infections.
Finally you have the Black and Latino communities who's low vaccination rates can be traced back to a general distrust of modern medicine. That distrust can be t
Re:Why do we even try to save lives anymore? (Score:4, Interesting)
The thing that makes a lot of dumb people really really mad is to tell them to do something different. Oh boy, that sets them off! Next thing they're off marching and parading and holding up banners against doing whatever common sense thing is that they were asked to change. Change is the big evil to them. Wear a mask, take a vaccine, vote a different way, stop using a derogatory term, stop living in flood plains or in thick dry timber, etc. Since is bad because science changes it's mind, and anything that changes its mind is inherently evil. Unlike the Bible which has been in English for longer than English has been a language.
Re:COVID vaccines: An history of failures! (Score:5, Informative)
Did you look at either of those links you provided? They are both animal tests.
Re:COVID vaccines: An history of failures! (Score:5, Insightful)
What's frustrating to me is (Score:2)
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I would rather save the poor people in Sierra Leon from violent terrorist rulers, than these anti-vaxxers.
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If you knew genetics that is fucking obvious that there are thousands or millions of permutations of gender traits. A person's gender is a collection of features (penis, beard, tits, whatever). Those traits are controlled by genes. First off each of those genes have variants, which could explain your small dick for example. But leaving that aside, gender on the macro-scale is controlled by a transcription factor called SRY (google it). That gene is USUALLY, but not always, found on the Y-chromosome. Further
Poison control advice should be (Score:3, Funny)
I used to be nicer, but Ive concluded that we need to let natural selection take its course and encourage the idiots to follow their chosen path into oblivion. Preferably before they reproduce.
Now get off my lawn.
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I used to quietly enjoy them, until I notice that, hey, I can tell them to their face that they're risking their life just for my comfort and they won't stop, ponder and think, and maybe even stop their behaviour. If anything, they double down on it!
I love these idiots. You can outright TELL them that they're morons who risk and lose their life so you can stay home, and they just redouble their effort.
Let them die. (Score:4, Insightful)
At this point, hospitals that are near capacity should consider denying admission to explicit vaccine-refusers, and save their resources for those who are willing and able to follow the best path to general health for the greater good. Exceptions should be made those who are unable to get the jab for valid, documented medical reasons.
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For example, tn my town and the next town over, they are, from hour to hour, turning people away from emergency treatment because they cannot attend to them in a timely manner. I won't share my location but if you do a news search for "emergency room diversion" you'll see what I'm talking about.
Re:Let them die. (Score:5, Informative)
https://www.texastribune.org/2... [texastribune.org]
https://www.kut.org/covid-19/2... [kut.org]
Here's a Fox affiliate link in case you don't trust the "MSM" https://www.foxnews.com/health... [foxnews.com]
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/19... [npr.org]
Re:Let them die. (Score:5, Informative)
Show me where hospitals are "near capacity". Last I heard, they were firing so many people because they weren't vaxxed
Many Texas hospitals are beyond capacity. And people with treatable illnesses are paying the consequences
Veteran dies of treatable illness as COVID fills hospital beds, leaving doctors "playing musical chairs" [cbsnews.com]
If hospitals had plenty of capacity, Gov. Abbott wouldn't be asking hospitals to postpone nonessential elective procedures [texastribune.org] so they can increase hospital capacity for COVID-19 patients [texas.gov]. And there wouldn't be a need for Gov. Abbott to bring in thousands of out-of-state medical personnel [texas.gov] to help with hospital staff shortages.
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Covid is already history for Sweden!
Sure it is - https://graphics.reuters.com/w... [reuters.com]
Re:Let them die. (Score:5, Informative)
Greenbrier County, West Virginia [register-herald.com].
Bowling Green, Kentucky [bgdailynews.com].
Fargo, North Dakota [kvrr.com].
Georgia as a whole [newsweek.com].
Akron and Canton, Ohio [cleveland19.com].
Some hospitals around the country, with the continuing surge of covid cases and ICU beds being used, are on the verge of implementing death panels [wgbh.org] to parcel out care. You can thank Republicans for those panels.
That's just a smattering of hospitals near or at capacity as Republicans refuse to use the power of big government to institute common sense procedures such as wearing masks and getting vaccinated to slow the spread of the delta variant. Instead, they're using the power of big government to take away women's rights and prevent people from voting while trying to up the death count as much as possible so they can use it as a political foil in the midterm elections.
But let's hear your excuse why these factual examples aren't realy facts.
Re: Let them die. (Score:3)
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Is Google blocked for you Russian trolls or something?
Re:Let them die. (Score:4, Insightful)
Many hospitals have their covid wards full. It takes actual people to manage those wards. That takes people away from emergency wards.
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/19... [npr.org]
Look on the bright side (Score:4, Funny)
Afterward, none of these people had worms.
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Enough time in the ground and they will.
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You never know... millennia from now, people may be paying to see the "Treasures of Billy-Joe Bob's Tomb".
Re: Look on the bright side (Score:3)
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Not yet. Hey, at least wait 'til they're buried, and give them a little time after.
Jeesh, the impiety of some people...
Do dispatchers egg them on? (Score:2)
Some of those what work forces
Want the paste that's for horses.
Shitting in the name of...
Rage On Behalf of the Machine (Score:2)
Rage On Behalf of the Machine
If you are posting reddit memes here, I guess I can post a reddit response.
Perspective (Score:5, Interesting)
>"High Ivermectin Overdosages Caused 1,143 Calls to America's Poison Control Centers This Year"
Just to put it into perspective in a country with 350 million people. Calls In 2019 to poison control:
109,465 calls due to cosmetics
100,830 for cleaning agents
[...]
39,122 for vitamins
[...]
26,417 for plants
19% were intentional use/application/ingestion.
https://www.poison.org/poison-... [poison.org]
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Safety, tolerability, and pharmacokinetics of escalating high doses of ivermectin in healthy adult subjects. [nih.gov]
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Perspective says that the overwhelming majority of those are accidental poisonings, not a fucking moron going and taking a horse dewormer because they think the vaccine would give them 5G microchips.
Perspective also says that not everyone jumping on an experimental drug bandwagon is stupid enough to take an entire horse's dose worth. In summary there's more than 1143 morons in the USA. Actually based on the current vaccination rate the number is closer to 150million morons.
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Extrapolated, the 1,143 calls would correspond to 13,716 calls per year, which is completely ridiculous for such a silly auto-medication based on nothing but made-up lies.
What everybody also misses... (Score:3)
is that the federal government (the same one recently scaring Americans away from Ivermectin by referring to it as a drug used on livestock) gives Ivermectin to refugees headed to the USA (including the new batch arriving from Afghanistan) who are presumably human (one presumes the federal government is not calling these people "livestock") and is doing it at the recommendation of the CDC [cdc.gov] (read page 3 of the PDF). Now, to be clear: the feds are giving it to refugees for its anti-parasite properties, rather
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You're wrong (Score:5, Informative)
The FDA says you're wrong [fda.gov]:
"Animal drugs are often highly concentrated because they are used for large animals like horses and cows, which weigh a lot more than we do—a ton or more. Such high doses can be highly toxic in humans."
Sometimes Mr. Darwin is the ONLY (Score:2, Insightful)
...fix for stupid. These people are fucking dense. I have conservative relatives, and talking with them just leaves my forehead red. It would be easier to herd cats on catnip.
Re: Sometimes Mr. Darwin is the ONLY (Score:3)
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Carl Sagan saw this coming (Score:5, Insightful)
There has always been a distrust of science in the less educated segments of American society, a sort of arrogant suspicion of evidence-based reasoning that is supplanted by a mode of thought motivated by fear, superstition, dogma, and spite. The use of specific terms and catchphrases meant to denigrate rational thought, such as "(liberal) elites," is a reflection of a deep-seated cultural hatred and resentment of science that is perceived as something that is force-fed to the American public. Anything that dares to contradict their worldview is demonized, yet their small and menial lives rely upon and are constantly enriched and empowered by thousands of years of hard-fought scientific and technological advancement.
These same people who deny vaccines and poison themselves with veterinary antihelminthics solely because they have been told that this "left-wing" segment of society has shown vaccines work, yet will rush to the hospital begging to be saved from their own stupidity, are the predictable and inevitable consequence of generations of deliberate educational sabotage and right-wing corporate/political media propaganda specifically designed to engender distrust of science and prevent teaching of critical thinking, so that the wealthy ruling class can have access to cheap, abundant, unquestioning slave labor, and the politicians they buy can more easily manipulate and disenfranchise the public.
COVID is not the disease that is rotting American society. The pandemic, at least as it has unfolded within US borders, is merely a symptom of the underlying cancer of scientific illiteracy and the failure to teach scientific skepticism, as Carl Sagan had explained in his book "The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle In the Dark." Each successive generation of Americans has become increasingly less able to reason logically; to the point now that large numbers of people are eating horse paste. And the internet, which delivers information but not wisdom, only serves to increase the rate at which disinformation spreads.
Even if COVID goes away, there will be another catastrophe. Maybe it is climate change, or maybe another disease. If Americans refuse to learn, they will suffer the consequences.
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Doesn't matter (Score:2)
Denial is easy. Unqualified, but articulate fools with zero caring for science and investigating truth are easier believed than any statistics. Especially when society has hit you over the head a few times, you are going to listen to the guy making money off controversy when he tells you "elites" are bad. Nevermind the guy telling you that is the actual elite.
Side effects (Score:3)
We observed significant reduction in the sperm counts and sperm motility of the patients tested. On the morphology there was significant increase in the number of abnormal sperm cells. This took the forms of two heads, double tails, white (albino) sperms and extraordinarily large heads.
Source [scholarsre...ibrary.com]
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Interesting, and worth following up. But... N=37, which isn't great.
And those 37 were drawn from a population of 385. Those rejected were rejected because their sperm wasn't normal. The motivation to do the study was that 85% of men getting a similar treatment had abnormal sperm.
Since 85% isn't much different from 90%, it would be very interesting to see if that 85% was getting treatment for the same thing or something different.
Think of it as evolution in action. (Score:2)
The gene-pool will profit.
No brainer (Score:2)
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Well I suppose that's a better excuse than blaming it all on the quality of our school system. Politics has to be in EVERYTHING, even our cereal.
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The annoying part is people are so self absorbed, that the number of people who died from Covid or from just being stupid, is that if it doesn't affect them or their immediate family, they just figure it is a non-issue.
Re: Q. How do you undo half a century of gerrymand (Score:2)
Re:"y'all" (Score:4, Funny)
Maybe this was the Texas branch of the FDA?
Newfangled Texas legal approach (Score:3)
What's with the vacuous Subjects?
However, in terms of dealing with anti-vax propagandists, the new Texas legal theory shows great promise. See, we'll just deputize random private citizens and pay them large bounties for nuking websites that post anti-vax content. Also bounties for any civil lawsuits they can bring against anti-vax propagandists.
Not a free speech thing. Not at all. No government involvement in starting ANY of the ruckus.
Re:"y'all" (Score:4)
Scam harder, antivaxxer.
Government didn't help with the masks are useless/masks are necessary "guidelines" and CDC dabbling into apartment rentals. After CDC declaring "moratorium on evictions", it stopped being a trusted scientific institution and became a political institution.
Suddenly making a ton of people homeless helps spread pandemic illnesses. This is not a "political" thing unless you're a tinfoil hatter denying the science.
People are desperately trying to rescue their livelihoods and are willing to test snake oil like Ivermectin. The reason is that there isn't any approved treatment option. Now, the real question is: who has failed to develop a treatment?
There are multiple vaccine options. There are ACTUAL treatment protocols in place for treating symptoms in severe cases. This is not a matter of "someone failed to develop a treatment", this is the same backwards idiots who spend their time trying to call other people "sheep" snorting actual Sheep Dip because Orange Twitler and a bunch of right-wing talk radio tinfoil hatters told them to.
Re:"y'all" (Score:5, Informative)
And a further 5 seconds shows that what it does is treat parasitic infections and and zero to do with viral respiratory diseases. Another 5 or more shows you that it is commonly given to livestock and that's by far and away the easiest way to get it since the livestock treatment doesn't require a prescription. A quick trip to the feed store can get you a tube of paste. No "fake news" doctors standing in your way.
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It's the smooth brained individuals who are overdosing on the livestock version. Yeah ivermectin is an anti parasite drug prescribed to humans, we get it.
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But they're cheaper!
And if an ounce is good, a pound can only be better!
Re:"y'all" (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:"y'all" (Score:5, Informative)
There medications containing ivermectin that are prescribed for humans. There also exist forms containing a much higher (and less controlled) concentration that are given only to horses and cows. Guess which one the COVIDiots are taking?
So when TFA states that the ivermectin bought at the feed store is only intended for livestock, it is quite correct.
Warfarin is often prescribed as a blood thinner. It is also used in rat poison. It is not a good idea to pop rat poison instead of getting your warfarin in properly controlled doses at the pharmacy.
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Being the only one they can get does not alter the fact that it was not intended for human use and may be formulated in a way that makes safe human use difficult, in particular for a layman.
Personally, I have some sympathy for the idea that prescriptions should be merely advisory in nature rather than required in order to buy an otherwise legally available medication. I don't, however, advise people to take those medications based on nothing more than random dude on the internet said I should.
As for "sudden
Re:the one they can get? (Score:5, Informative)
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The number's probably on the tube of apple-flavored paste.
Re: "y'all" (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm impressed them ya'll slack jawed mongloids know how to call the poison control center after realizing they f'ed up.
Interesting... (over)using OTC Ivermectin 'cause they don't trust the Government about the vaccines, then calling the (government) Poison Control for help when they get sick from taking the drug against medical advise.
Just as interesting as people avoiding the 1cc (x2) vaccines to prevent getting COVID because they're "experimental", "only approved for emergency use" and "too new to have been tested well" but then flocking to get an IV of Regeneron once they get COVID, even though that is also "experimental", "only approved for emergency use" and "too new to have been tested well" ...
Re: "y'all" (Score:5, Informative)
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Note also that the World Health Organization has suggested using livestock Ivermectin to treat... wait for it... COVID-19, mostly because it's super-cheap and won't cause any harm (at worst, the patients get the proven anti-parasitic effect, which is a good thing in a lot of locations).
Of course, relieving the livestock of their parasitic infections will help their bodies better battle a COVID infection.
Re:"y'all" (Score:5, Informative)
Note also that the World Health Organization has suggested using livestock Ivermectin to treat... wait for it... COVID-19
No they haven't. The WHO has specifically suggested *not* using Ivermectin at all outside of the few ongoing clinical trials.
Also suggesting using a "livestock" drug does not mean going to the feed store and taking a dose designed for a horse, it means certifying the same drug but in different concentrations.
At this point only a complete moron would take Ivermectin, and you with your half-truths are bordering on moronic yourself since you clearly don't understand what's going on around you.
Re:204 million people beg to differ.. (Score:5, Informative)
You know what it does say?
A stringent "trace, test and treat" measure, vaccination and partial curfews have paid dividends in restricting the Covid-19 spread in Uttar Pradesh. The positivity rate has slumped to 0.01 per cent, the lowest in the country.
Go fucking kill yourself you gaslighting piece of shit. Fuckfaces like you are killing people.
Re: "y'all" (Score:3)
While it's established to have antiviral capabilities, studies I've seen indicate that the doses needed for it to be useful are something like ~100x the normal human dose. To me that makes the argument for using it as an antiviral kind of moot.
So logically the options are a) to take 100x normal dosage of a drug that *might* help, could have major side effects at those amounts, and isn't recommended by doctors, or b) take a drug (aka vaccine) that has been taken by over 2 billion people worldwide, shown to d
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And now read the Disclaimer:
Disclaimer
This disclaimer relates to PubMed, PubMed Central (PMC), and Bookshelf. These three resources are scientific literature databases offered to the public by the U.S. National Library of Medicine (NLM). NLM is not a publisher, but rather collects, indexes, and archives scientific literature published by other organizations. The presence of any article, book, or document in these databases does not imply an endorsement of, or concurrence with, the contents by NLM, the Natio
Re:There are good reasons to test it (Score:4, Insightful)
And in the interior of the article:
Supporting the findings of IVM efficacy in COVID-19 treatment as summarized above were indications of activity against SARS-CoV-2 in prevention studies. Three RCTs evaluated the prophylactic effect of IVM administered to cohorts of 100 [22], 117 [39] and 203 [40] subjects exposed to COVID-19 patients. These studies, all using IVM in doses of at least 150 g/kg per week, reported statistically significant reductions in COVID-19 incidences, with respective RRs of 20%, 26% and 13% as compared with controls, and greater reductions in incidences of moderate and severe cases.
So, you are claiming, I'll pick the high number, 26% reduction in Covid incidences. Care to put that up against the mRNA vaccines which are north of 90% effective. And "even greater reductions in incidences of moderate and severe cases." Even greater, damnation that's impressive.
This paper is more of meta-analysis of Google Scholar searches. It doesn't claim to have done any actual testing itself. It is more or less a grab bag of crap scraped of the Intertubes and passed off as a serious study.
Come back when you have something serious.
Re:"y'all" (Score:5, Informative)
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... specially when 5 seconds of google can tell you that the drug is commonly prescribed for humans and it's very effective at what it does.
Yes, it's effective... but not for treating Covid-19
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Well, you have to admit, these morons didn't die (or if they survived, wouldn't have died) of Covid.
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Prescriptions for this are way up versus a year ago. Doctors are prescribing human formulations of ivermectin for off label use, presumably as a prophylactic for COVID-19 without any care being taken on what an effective dose for that use might be. At least a doctor is likely to advise a patient on an acceptable risk and safe dose.
When a doctor isn't willing to write a prescription, or if a person feels the dose is too low. The other options is to buy veterinary formulations, such as a paste form that can b
Re: "y'all" (Score:2)
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Sadly for us (ex)beekeepers that honey allergy connection is false. The original (small) study that started this myth is old and later studies busted it. I still rather like a local apiary's "poison oak" honey.
Raspberry seeds are technically natural sources of medication, as they have a tiny amount of salicylic acid, a precursor to acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin). I wouldn't depend on them for anything serious though.
Manipulating doctors for money (Score:2)
Actually the way I see this scam, a doctor can make a lot of money prescribing off-label uses. What's unusual about this particular scam is that a low-ethics doctor gets YUGE free advertising, too. The patients who "demand" Ivermectin are going to tell each other about the doctors who played along, and the doctors who stand firm are quite likely to lose many of their patients.
Notice how this tilts the playing field in favor of the doctors who are in it for the money? And against the doctors who are most con
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I think some people avoid vaccination because they don't trust "big pharma". They believe two dose vaccines and potentially unlimited follow up vaccines or "boosters" is designed to rip off the American public. But the irony to me is when they go to unscrupulous doctors to get prescriptions for alternatives and almost certainly end up spending more than two doses of Moderna cost.
But what do I know, I'm biased because I don't want to be a test subject AND pay for my own medication.
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Well, that's another problematic aspect of the for-profit and money-driven medical system. Big pharma shouldn't be trusted to put anyone's health ahead of bigger profits. In particular, big pharma basically hates to invest in vaccine research, though they can be pushed into doing it (as happened in the case of Covid-19). Fast-acting cures are low profit and preventive treatments such as vaccines are even worse.
The big profits come from expensive palliative medications that need to be taken for long periods
Re:"y'all" (Score:5, Funny)
5 seconds of google can tell you that the drug is commonly prescribed for humans and it's very effective at what it does.
Testicular amputation is also prescribed for humans and very effective at what it does. I actually think we should start promoting it as an alternative for COVID-19 vaccines.
Re:MSM = 100% Fake News (Score:5, Informative)
Can you get a better source than twitter?
Come on guys, even by 5th grade my school wouldn't accept Encyclopedias as a valid source. Let a lone some random tweet.
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> Can you get a better source than twitter?
How do you feel about pastebin?
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Legitimate uses for ivermectin do not include use against covid. It is used due to the chance of immigrants from specified areas having parasites. They are also correctly dosing and using medicine designed for people, not livestock. This would have taken you about 10 seconds to look up if you cared about being correct.
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You mean one doctor asking the government to allow it? Cool story bro.
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Again cool story bro. Does he have any placebo data to show against his treatments?
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In some countries physicians are good enough to think by themselves:
Clearly not in Japan, then.
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The reason it's given to immigrants has NOTHING to do with Covid-19
https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html [cdc.gov]
Re: MSM = 100% Fake News (Score:2)
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Dumb and proud of it. What's not to like?
Re: Something people are missing (Score:4, Interesting)
Re: The biggest issue (Score:3)
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I cant tell if your being facetious or not.
Me? Facetious? I never!
Also, *you're*.
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There is no doubt in my mind you ingested ivermectin purchased from a farm store.
Re:More fake news (Score:4, Insightful)
"This is more of the same - fabricating more click-bait for gullible left."
Sure, and the people that take it are doing so merely to enable those who manipulate the "gullible left", and those people are without a doubt extreme leftists. It's all the fault of the lefties.
Taking the drug at all is not the issue, the issue is the reporting of it. Classic Trumpist bullshit.
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UV light in lungs is being studied for respiratory viral diseases
also
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]
You're not qualified to say it's either good or to mock it.