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When a 'Wildly Irrational' Algorithm Makes Crucial Healthcare Decisions (theguardian.com) 38

"Thousands of disabled and elderly people in more than a dozen states have had to fight against decisions made by an algorithm to get the support services they need to remain in their homes instead of being institutionalized," reports the U.S. edition of the Guardian: The cuts have hit low-income seniors and people with disabilities in Pennsylvania, Iowa, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Arkansas and other states, after algorithms became the arbiters of how their home health care was allocated — replacing judgments that used to be primarily made by nurses and social workers.

In Washington D.C., "on the worst end, we've had clients who actually died, because their services were cut and they were not receiving the care that they needed" Tina Smith Nelson, supervising attorney with AARP Legal Counsel for the Elderly, said about the effects of a new algorithmic system introduced in 2018. Over 300 seniors have had to file administrative appeals after their home care was cut by a new algorithmic system. "I think as a society we move into unsettling territory when we rely solely upon algorithms and data to make determinations about health care needs," Nelson said. "We reduce a person's humanity to a number...."

The situation is reflective of a reality increasingly affecting all users of American healthcare: algorithms — ranging from crude if-then charts to sophisticated artificial intelligence systems — are being deployed to make all sorts of decisions about who gets care. Government officials have touted algorithmic decision-making systems as a way to make sure that benefits are allocated even-handedly, eliminate human bias and root out fraud. But advocates say having computer programs decide how much help vulnerable people can get is often arbitrary — and in some cases downright cruel. The underlying problem, experts say, is that neither states nor the federal government provide enough funding to allow people needing health assistance to remain safely in their homes — even though these programs usually end up being much less costly than putting people in institutions. The algorithms resort to divvying up what crumbs are available...

Kevin De Liban, an attorney with Legal Aid of Arkansas, began fighting the cuts after severely disabled patients started calling "en masse" in 2016.... De Liban's legal team revealed flaws with the algorithm in court. It turned out, De Liban said, that the calculations had failed to factor in things like whether a patient had cerebral palsy or diabetes. A single point in the scoring system — for instance a point added because the patient had had a fever in the last three days or had open pressure sores — could make a huge difference in how many hours they received for the entire year... "As the algorithm worked, it was, to our eyes, pretty wildly irrational," said De Liban...

After years of court battles, Arkansas' use of the algorithmic system was finally thrown out in 2018... But across the nation, the battle continues. In Washington D.C., Pennsylvania and Iowa, legal services attorneys are plagued with calls from seniors complaining they have lost their care because of the algorithms recently adopted in those states.

The Guardian ultimately tracked down the designer of the algorithm, University of Michigan Professor Emeritus Brant Fries, who acknowledged that the system isn't even designed to calculate how many hours of care people actually need, but to try to allocate whatever scarce resources are available in the most equitable way.

"We're not saying that the size of the pie is correct... But whatever the money is there, I'm dividing it more equally!"
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When a 'Wildly Irrational' Algorithm Makes Crucial Healthcare Decisions

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  • These algorithms; some must be right but some are not. For example we use to rely on hosts files, logical address, routing protocols,... hosts files on the other end....To handle most our data. Now corporate owned entire networks use made up equations that will never balance, will fragment your data just to satisfy an algorithm since you can't own and market common sense but you can own and incorporate and algorithm....
    • by I75BJC ( 4590021 )
      Yes! These AlGorrithms are right for Someones!!!

      In the USA it would be...
      The Governments!
      The Insurance Companies!
      NOT for the patients or the medical personnel.

      The Governments and the Insurance Companies have been making important decisions for patients and overriding the patients' wishes and needs as well as the Medical Doctors and medical staff. IMO, it is horrendous when Governments and Insurance want to voilate the relationship between patient-doctor and let non-medical personnel decides the medi
      • Exactly right. When you say an algorithm does something, you are not saying that someone intelligent is doing something, and you are not even saying that the right thing is being done. These algorithms that enforce rules on people need to be fully public domain and their design goals need to authorized by experts not bureaucrats
  • Damn people aren't even leaving the tin

    The pie is a deception

  • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @05:31PM (#61548228)

    Pi is supposed to be 3.14159265358..
    Instead they set the pi to 0.03

  • The crucial part (Score:5, Insightful)

    by inode_buddha ( 576844 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @06:42PM (#61548340) Journal

    The crucial part is right there in the text:

    " The underlying problem, experts say, is that neither states nor the federal government provide enough funding to allow people needing health assistance to remain safely in their homes â" even though these programs usually end up being much less costly than putting people in institutions. "

    So, it seems the problem is we shrank the government a bit too much. And no, letting families and communities figure it out on their own is not a solution. Unless you're an an-cap who wants society to return to a neo-feudal Charles Dickens times where everyone was flat broke except for a select few. That experiment in laissez faire capitalism didn't end too well either.

    You tell me how other countries much smaller than the US, can get better results for half the cost per capita? It's because the evicted the profiteering gluttons from their systems.

    • You tell me how other countries much smaller than the US, can get better results for half the cost per capita?

      Well, assuming your assumption is correct, that they CAN get better results (which is open to debate), the answer is BECAUSE they are MUCH smaller and more homogeneous.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Well, assuming your assumption is correct, that they CAN get better results (which is open to debate), the answer is BECAUSE they are MUCH smaller

        How is size relevant? Medicare and Medicaid are administered by States, so it scales by size.

        and more homogeneous.

        And how is this relevant either? How is the colour of skin a big factor in organising healthcare? If you looked at, for example, percentage foreign born, then the USA is actually slightly less diverse than countries such as the UK.

        They are just excuses for inaction.

    • by fermion ( 181285 )
      I have friends who whole careers have been spent getting people government benefits. The amount of money is always limited and those with good a lawyer can navigate the arbitrary decision making. If, as the article states, the purpose of this algorithm is to distribute limit government resources more equitably then that is fair. There is process of appeal after the fact. The only test we should have if the costs of those appeals are reduced.
  • HOLD UP! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @08:34PM (#61548488)

    What about when we have "wildly irrational" people making laws? ;)

    • Re:HOLD UP! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @08:49PM (#61548518)
      I am not sure how many people realize that laws are algorithms. An ancient king would have thought it preposterous to be constrained by a set of rules, taking precedence over his feelings and beliefs. Laws do usually have an escape valve for subjectivity of one sort or another - with varying results. The amount of discretion to allow judges in sentencing (vs mandatory sentencing) is a never-ending battleground.
      • Laws are a much LOOSER algorithm than computer programs. They tend to depend on the 'legal' definition of generic words that get specified by judges in response to actual real life situations. More importantly, they have a systematic correction method from appealing to a higher court.

        Computer algorithms tend to start out as specific as possible, either defined by bureaucrats based on money rather than situations, or worse, by Bayesian based learning programs fed a small, prejudiced sample.

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @10:05PM (#61548612)
    For decisions people made. These systems on programmed in a vacuum and is absolutely no accident that they tend to err on the side of saving money. Calling it in algorithm gives everyone an excuse to pretend that this isn't simple cruelty for the sake of saving money. It lets everybody off the hook. From the rich ghouls who don't want to pay the taxes to let people die in peace, to your run-of-the-mill voter who thinks they'll get a piece of those tax cuts.
  • by The Evil Atheist ( 2484676 ) on Sunday July 04, 2021 @12:02AM (#61548754)
    Why aren't these systems ever tested properly? DeepMind went to the trouble of hiring the world's top Go players just to test their single purpose system. When you are dealing with people lives - TEST THE FUCKING THING FULLY.
  • "But whatever the money is there, I'm dividing it more equally!"

    It doesn't take a computer to divide it equally. You just divide by n to get each share.

    He means "equitably." Unfortunately, equity is in the eye of the beholder. Since he doesn't seem to understand that, he is an idiot.

  • Blaming the algorithm is just a cop-out. And even if the pie was enough, there would still be small inequities that would cascade into some people being treated horribly. We need not just enough funding, but enough funding plus a margin of error so that administrators could address clear inequities that never should have happened. With a budget that's trimmed all fat, and is cutting into needed tissue, we start losing the ability for self correction within the system, because that costs money.
  • So, the critical sentence is at the end of the summary:

    "But whatever the money is there, I'm dividing it more equally!"

    Government can do rationing two ways: the usual, and the equal. One has hidden, and the other has outrageous harm.

    Usually, government puts people on never ending waiting lists. You want free housing voucher? Wait 28 months. Want a green card for your mom? Wait 10 years. Want institutional care? Again wait many years. But once you get it, it is essentially yours forever.

    The other case: Every

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