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Passenger Added To Jeff Bezos' Planned Spaceflight Would Be the Oldest Person In Space (fortune.com) 44

Pioneering pilot Wally Funk, who was denied being an astronaut because of her gender, is joining Amazon founder Jeff Bezos on an upcoming space voyage by his rocket startup, Blue Origin. Fortune reports: The nation's first female Federal Aviation Administration inspector, whose formal name is Mary Wallace Funk, will be an "honored guest" for the July 20 launch of the New Shepard rocket, Blue Origin said Thursday. At 82, Funk would be the oldest person to ever reach space, the company said, shattering the current record held by John Glenn, the astronaut-turned-senator who went into orbit at 77. Other New Shepard crew members include Bezos's brother Mark Bezos and a yet-to-be revealed auction winner who is paying $28 million to be an astronaut. Funk, an airline pilot and instructor, was a member of the "Mercury 13," a team of 13 American women who went through formal astronaut training in the early 1960s. Despite the intense preparation, the women were barred from becoming astronauts because of a then-NASA requirement to only accept military fighter pilots, a position held exclusively by men.
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Passenger Added To Jeff Bezos' Planned Spaceflight Would Be the Oldest Person In Space

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  • by ChunderDownunder ( 709234 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @02:07AM (#61546514)

    Have a great time, Wally.

  • by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @04:23AM (#61546682)

    "Mercury 13," a team of 13 American women who went through formal astronaut training in the early 1960s. Despite the intense preparation, the women were barred from becoming astronauts because of a then-NASA requirement to only accept military fighter pilots, a position held exclusively by men.

    I'm genuinely curious, what exactly was the fucking point of the Mercury 13 program then? Was there some other astronaut-enabling entity operating in America in the 1960s?

    Never mind. Turns out it was a "manly" LBJ.

    Imagine how our space program would be if Kennedy avoided Vietnam and we put that focus on our space efforts. We've probably be living on Mars by now.

    • by e3m4n ( 947977 ) on Saturday July 03, 2021 @07:31AM (#61546846)
      Gender politics aside; Fighter test pilots had a ready-to-go set of physical conditioning and critical thinking under pressure skills. Historically we as a country do not 'get back on that horse' when a tragedy arises. Apollo-1 was their one allowed mistake. When the space shuttle Challenger exploded we derailed our space program nearly 10 years. When the space shuttle challenger exploded in 2003 we stopped entirely doing NASA missions. It wasnt until last year that a civilian contractor put an American astronaut back into space. With this level of intolerance from the American people I can understand the need to hedge your bet when first taking those steps. Turns out piloting a spacecraft is nothing like flying a fighter jet and most of the work is done by the ground crew. We should have never abandoned the shuttle program. Do you realize how many actual fighter pilots we lose every year serving in the military even during non-combat sorties? We lost 7 in just the two years I was stationed on the USS Abraham Lincoln. Imagine grounding all aerial ops everytime we lost a plane? Imagine grounding all commercial air traffic for 10yrs after that NYC incident where they had to make an emergency water landing during takeoff.

      I just hope Bezos doesnt regret this if her age plays a role in the stress killing her during the flight. She will never be in the same condition we put other astronauts through. But then again his space program is more high-flying plane and less spacecraft, much like Bransons. Its designed to bilk billionaires out of their hard earned cash. Throw in a few boy-banders who want to get their fans to crowdfund it like the Jonas Brothers, and you have an elite band of whiners.
      • Commercial aviation has a fatality rate of 0.27 deaths per million flights.

        The Shuttle had 14 deaths in 135 flights.

      • by ghoul ( 157158 )
        Men are stronger but woman are tougher. Their bodies are built to take the severe strain of Pregnancy so they just have better immune systems and resilience. Sure if you want a boulder broken get a man but if you want someone to survive G forces a woman's body is much better built for it. Even amongst men shorter compactly built men make better pilots than the tall manly types so no doubt woman would make good fighter pilots and astronauts. During WW2 Soviets used woman as fighter pilots extensively.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      The point was to prove that women could do it. There is still an assumption that women are just unsuited to some jobs and it was even more common back then.

      Women couldn't become military pilots back then so there was simply no way to get into the programme. They wanted that changed, which would also have opened it up to civilian men. As it happens NASA did start sending civilians to the Moon to do science, but it wasn't until the 80s that women got to go to space with NASA.

      To be fair the Soviets sent women

      • by ghoul ( 157158 )
        Thats a load of bull. Soviets had a huge number of women fighter pilots. In fact during WW2 most Soviet fighter pilots were women - it was considered more of a womans job along with Artillery and snipers. So the Soviets had no shortage of woman fighter pilots to send into space. they didnt need to pull any stunts to have women in space. Communism has always been bigger on womens rights than capitalism.
        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          I don't disagree, I was just saying that the Soviet space programme didn't have many women in it, most cosmonauts were men. It wasn't for lack of qualified women, it was just that they always selected men except for the odd "first" mission where they wanted to show their lead in the space race.

          Valentina Tereshkova went up in 1963. After that there wasn't another woman in space until they sent up Svetlana Savitskaya in 1982. I'm not sure exactly what the reason was because as you say there were qualified wom

        • the Soviets had no shortage of woman fighter pilots to send into space. they didnt need to pull any stunts to have women in space.

          The abundance of female fighter pilots must be why they picked a textile factory worker to send into orbit, right?

          • by ghoul ( 157158 )
            They probably thought fighter pilot was a pansy job compared to being a textile worker. Fact is astronauts are just chimpanzees. The space program is run by the scientists. Doesnt really matter who or what you put in as cargo in the capsule.
            • Then why were all the other Vostok crews "pansy jobs"?

              The space program is run by the scientists

              It's actually run by politicians.

    • by ghoul ( 157158 )
      Given JFKs penchant for escalating wars to divert from his affairs we would be fighting a war to eliminate martians on Mars (nevermind if there were no Martians. Non existence of an enemy never stopped the US MIC from a good war)
    • > Imagine how our space program would be if Kennedy avoided Vietnam ..

      Kennedy was going to withdraw from Vietnam, before he was assassinated by a lone gunman with no connection to the state security apparatus.
  • "Pioneering pilot Wally Funk, who was denied being an astronaut because of her gender"

    How many persons-with-a-penis on the program, never made it into space?
  • ...to consider whether silencing the "don't let him return" crowd played at least some small part in the decision? I mean, you'd have to be some special kind of asshole to imply she should die up there, too, right? Regardless of his reasoning, it doesn't take away from the fact that it's pretty damn awesome she's getting the long overdue opportunity.

  • When the cosmic storm cloud hits their shuttle, what powers will be imbued with her then?

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