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Biden Administration To Buy 500 Million Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine Doses To Donate To the World (washingtonpost.com) 227

The Biden administration is buying 500 million doses of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine to donate to the world, as the United States dramatically increases its efforts to help vaccinate the global population, the Washington Post reported Wednesday, citing three people familiar with the plans. From the report: President Biden is slated to announce the plan at the G-7 meeting in Britain this week amid growing calls for the United States and other rich countries to play a more substantial role in boosting the global supply of vaccines. Biden told reporters Wednesday as he boarded Air Force One to Europe he would be announcing his global vaccine strategy. The Biden administration previously announced it would share at least 80 million vaccine doses with the world by the end of June. Last week, the White House detailed plans for how it would allocate 25 million doses, with about 19 million of them being shared with Covax, the World Health Organization-backed initiative to distribute vaccine doses around the globe. Roughly 6 million doses would be shared directly with countries experiencing severe coronavirus outbreaks, including India.
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Biden Administration To Buy 500 Million Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine Doses To Donate To the World

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  • Now that Biden is making Pfizer give away their vaccine patents, he needs to line their pockets with lucre or they'll lobby his entire administration into the ground.

  • Orrrr we could release the patent. A lot of these countries have domestic manufacturing capabilities; they're just not allowed to make the vaccine.
    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      Not for Pfizer or Moderna. India can, and is, making Astrazeneca's, but they've got one of the biggest pharma manufacturing industries in the world.

      Every plant that can make a COVID vaccine is, patents or no.

    • If we start giving away patents held by people or companies, it removes any reason for them to share the information in the first place. If this was a government owned patent then sure, by all means allow it to be used without restrictions.
      • by flink ( 18449 )

        You pay them out so that they recoup their R&D plus a respectable profit. It can also just be a temporary seizure of the patent until the worst of the crisis is over.

        • Yeah, because I'm sure that everyone in every country globally will pinky-swear to forget what they learned about mRNA synthesis techniques from the patents after the pandemic ends.

          • by bws111 ( 1216812 )

            Patents are not secrets. Quite the opposite. Everyone is free to read patents, you just can't do what they say without permission.

            • ... and absolutely everyone would agree to not continue to use the techniques covered by the patent after the grace period ends, especially considering usage outside of countries that give two shits about the US Patent and Trademark Office. My point still stands, even though I used the wrong terminology.

      • I always thought talk about the patent specifically was really weird. It does seem reasonable to quickly negotiate some manufacture/sell licensing costs that are fair to the companies but also recognize the massive need to work together on things right now.
    • If you do that without just compensation good luck the next time such a virus comes around. Nobody is going to sink the amount of money into it to develop a vaccine if they know you're just going to invalidate their patents and give it away for free.

      • The U.S. federal government fronted a lot of the money for vaccine development for COVID - and bet on a lot of losers, too - so it wasn't necessarily private companies dumping their own money into development (some companies invested more of their own money than others). Vaccines are generally not much of a money-maker anyway in comparison to blood-pressure medicine, or diabetes medicine, even in a pandemic, just to name two, so there's already not much incentive for companies to invest anything in vaccine
    • by godrik ( 1287354 ) on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @02:03PM (#61470568)

      But it is not necessarily a good political move. Buying and giving away doses of an US vaccine is very good for the US:
      -it maintains the production in the US which means a local economical activity and expertise on mRNA vaccine production
      -it does not give an edge for an international competitor
      -it helps vaccinating the world quicker, which means other economies reopen quicker. If you pick and chose the US biggest trading partners first, that's good for the US economy
      -it helps paints the US as altruistic
      -the US already funds foreign aid so there may already be a budget for it, so you may be able to do it without a tax increase

      Sure, one can look at it as "my tax dollars going offshore". But the US may get more back this way. (And maybe it doesn't I can't even think of how you would run the numbers on this; but I am sure they ran the numbers.)

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <slashdot.worf@net> on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @03:07PM (#61470866)

        But it is not necessarily a good political move. Buying and giving away doses of an US vaccine is very good for the US:
        -it maintains the production in the US which means a local economical activity and expertise on mRNA vaccine production
        -it does not give an edge for an international competitor
        -it helps vaccinating the world quicker, which means other economies reopen quicker. If you pick and chose the US biggest trading partners first, that's good for the US economy
        -it helps paints the US as altruistic
        -the US already funds foreign aid so there may already be a budget for it, so you may be able to do it without a tax increase

        Sure, one can look at it as "my tax dollars going offshore". But the US may get more back this way. (And maybe it doesn't I can't even think of how you would run the numbers on this; but I am sure they ran the numbers.)

        You missed a huge one - China.

        China is giving away millions of doses of vaccine, and selling those countries more millions of doses at highly discounted rates.

        Why? It's soft power politics - vaccine diplomacy. Countries that got vaccines are friendly to China and China's interests, while those who didn't aren't (e.g., they support Free Hong Kong, or Independent Taiwan, or ... democracy and freedoms).

        It's a bunch of "I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine". China wants the world to adopt its political position of dictatorship, communism and happiness through ignorance (censorship). While we debate ignorance on our own shores, at least ours is mostly voluntary - the idiots (covidiots, anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, etc) are ignorant because they are willfully choosing to be, not that the information they seek is being withheld from them. We know this because they are always demanding information and get twisted in knots when it's actually given to them (see Trump and birther movement that didn't die when Obama released his birth certificate).

        It's a political play yes, but ti's one that needs to be done purely to counter China and their corrupting world influence.

        It's also stunningly brilliant - "Oh, you got the Chinese vaccine that doesn't work after 3 doses? Here's some that provides excellent protection with just a single dose even though you really should get 2".

        China took over because under Trump, the US stopped leading the world and we all know nature abhors a vacuum. China just happened to be in the right place

        • by tomhath ( 637240 )

          China took over because under Trump...

          What rock have you been living under? China took over decades ago when Clinton was in office.

    • Many countries have laws where in case of a major event, they will be allowed to steal such patents and go on their own.

      However there is a huge different from having the Patent and able to manufacture it. Manufacturing is a much harder process than people understand, and to be able to get a plant to make vaccines may take over a year to build.

    • Is there really spare manufacturing capacity for mRNA vaccines? I've read about complicated supply chains with many bottlenecks, but that could of course have been self-serving Big Pharma talk.

      It's noteworthy that China is not producing an mRNA vaccine. Possible explanations:
      1. Not-invented-here syndrome, insisting on making their own out of national pride.
      2. mRNA manufacturing is super-difficult.
      3. Reverence for US Big Pharma intellectual property.

      Two of those are believable.

    • Both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines require specialized manufacturing for mRNA. Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna had to build custom manufacturing lines, extreme cold storage lines, and a cold storage shipment method that would reliably deliver the vaccines undamaged.

      I am guessing that most, if not all previously existing drug companies, everywhere in the world, were not prepared to start manufacturing mRNA vaccines. Sure, releasing the patents would allow them to copy Pfizer-BioNTech and or Moderna mRNA
  • Did he also buy a ton of fridges? To help transport it to the rest of the world??
    • Re:Refrigeration (Score:5, Informative)

      by nucrash ( 549705 ) on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @01:09PM (#61470280)

      Apparently that isn't such a big deal as it once was. https://www.fda.gov/news-event... [fda.gov]

    • Europe can do cold chain logistics. They can still use the doses even now, and can use them to replace AstraZeneca doses which they might forward to places where cold chains are not as good.

      Something I have only seen in deep Google dives is that mRNA vaccines can be freeze-dried and be shelf stable for months at room temperature. (Search "lyophilized"). There's an approval cycle and it won't be fast, but I hope the work is going forward to make it happen.

    • The world is not running short on fridges, it's a trivial matter and always was.
      • The world is not running short on fridges, it's a trivial matter and always was.

        not when the thing you want to freeze needs -80C

        those freezers are a little bit more "special"

        More if you facto in the fact that in many developing countries, electricity is less reliable than in a texas winter

  • President Pharma... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by BoFo ( 518917 )
    gets to hose down the corporate pharmaceutical giants with taxpayer funds. How am I surprised? He'll do anything to avoid giving Americans universal, single-payer healthcare.
  • ...and while I understand that 'soft power' is a thing of some value geopolitically, but do people understand that:

    1) we are essentially borrowing the cost of that from our children and grandchildren who will have to pay it back with interest while we service the debt for the rest of OUR lives? We are the richest society ever in human history, with the highest standard of living ever, and we still cannot afford to pay for the crap we want, much less for the stuff /other people want/ on top of it?

    2) the peo

    • by fermion ( 181285 )
      One thing about debt is it is not fixed. At least in the US most knowledgeable people talk about debt as related to GDP. If we are growing, and debt is growing, that is stable. The problem with Reagan was not that he fiscally irresponsible, it was that he was so irresponsible he grew the debt at double the rate of GDP. This was Clintonâ(TM)s point as he shrank the debt as a percentage of gdp

      On the other issue, people could try to educate their kids, but I can see how killing the competition like some

      • by hawk ( 1151 )

        In fairness to Reagan . . . left to his own agenda, that wouldn't have happened. I don't have the reference on hand, but had the change been limited to his military program, tax cuts, and everything else growing at inflation, the deficit would have dropped (and, iirc, all the way down to zero a term or two later).

        But he didn't have the votes for that. *Congress* passed the spending and taxing, and the price that Reagan had to pay for that was funding the largest increase in social spending in US history

    • You seem to be forgetting:

      3) the people that this helps across the world will continue to be alive, and customers able and willing to purchase goods and services from people in the United States of America, representing return on investment and increased taxable economic activity.

    • 1) Debt doesn't really matter as long as the value for what you buy in the long term is higher than what you paid for it. In this case, improving the pandemic (and preventing it from lingering) and allowing those around the world (who produce things that are bought in the U.S. and who buy things that are bought in the U.S.) to be healthy is good for the U.S. At the cost of only 70% of one aircraft carrier, it's a pretty good deal.

      2) Yeah, let's let the die, then, because one day my grandchild might not ge
    • We're fighting a virus, instead of spending money on bombs to destroy enemy tanks we're spending money to vaccinate potential hosts abroad. Just as helpful for national security.
    • we still cannot afford to pay for the crap we want, much less for the stuff /other people want/ on top of it?

      Oh, we can afford to pay for it. CONgress, esp. the far right and now the far left, HATE to be responsible with $ and actually run a balanced budget. Dumb fucks.

  • or is that what we are trying to stop? So confused.
  • One dose only and less strict cooling requirements!

    Living in a developing country (Venezuela), and having friends in other parts of the world, I can tell you for sure that in vast swates of LatAm, Africa, ad SE Asia, a vaccine that nly requires one dose and can be held on common household refrigerators simplifies logistics dramatically in countries with unreliable electricit, transport (to transport the people) and record keeipng (to keep track of the two doses)
    Of course, living in DC is hard to imagine the

  • Seriously, he should be spreading the buying across both, if not just maderna.

After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done.

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