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Study Reveals New Details On What Happened In the First Microsecond of Big Bang (phys.org) 109

Researchers from University of Copenhagen have investigated what happened to a specific kind of plasma -- the first matter ever to be present -- during the first microsecond of Big Bang. Their findings provide a piece of the puzzle to the evolution of the universe, as we know it today. Phys.org reports: "We have studied a substance called quark-gluon plasma that was the only matter, which existed during the first microsecond of Big Bang. Our results tell us a unique story of how the plasma evolved in the early stage of the universe," explains You Zhou, associate professor at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen. "First, the plasma that consisted of quarks and gluons was separated by the hot expansion of the universe. Then the pieces of quark reformed into so-called hadrons. A hadron with three quarks makes a proton, which is part of atomic cores. These cores are the building blocks that constitutes Earth, ourselves and the universe that surrounds us," he adds.

The quark-gluon plasma (QGP) was present in the first 0.000001 second of Big Bang, and thereafter, it disappeared due to the expansion. But by using the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, researchers were able to recreate this, the first matter in history, and trace back what happened to it. "In addition to using the Large Hadron Collider, the researchers also developed an algorithm that is able to analyze the collective expansion of more produced particles at once than ever possible before. Their results show that the QGP used to be a fluent liquid form and that it distinguishes itself from other matter by constantly changing its shape over time.

"For a long time, researchers thought that the plasma was a form of gas, but our analysis confirm the latest milestone measurement, where the Hadron Collider showed that QGP was fluent and had a smooth soft texture like water. The new details we provide show that the plasma has changed its shape over time, which is quite surprising and different from any other matter we know and what we would have expected," says You Zhou. Even though this might seem like a small detail, it brings physicists one step closer to solving the puzzle of the Big Bang and how the universe developed in the first microsecond, he elaborates.
The study has been published in the journal Physics Letters B.
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Study Reveals New Details On What Happened In the First Microsecond of Big Bang

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  • by LondoMollari ( 172563 ) on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @05:15AM (#61423194) Homepage

    What came before the Big Bang is what interests me

    • by XNormal ( 8617 ) on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @05:36AM (#61423228) Homepage

      According to some theories, some remains of a pre-big-bang state may have remained in the form of certain irregularities in the matter in the universe. Studying the big bang in ever greater detail and more accurate models can put bounds on such processes. By studying the distribution of mass and background radiation in the observable universe and comparing them to these statistical bounds we can discard or validate such theories.

      So yes, this can be relevant to whatever might have been before the big bang.

      • Some people claim there is evidence in the CMB [slashdot.org] of a previous universe.
      • Chaos theory means we can't predict the weather with any great accuracy more than a few days ahead. The same affect would occur if you tried to work backwards from todays weather and predict last weeks. Ditto trying to work backwards from todays conditions and trying to work out what things were like at the Big Bang. Yes, not exact analogy but given how complex the evolution of a universe must be , I would say a fair one.

        • But don't forget that even if predicting the weather a week ahead is a challenge, predicting solar and lunar eclipse years ahead is relatively easy. Though I'm not saying I know how hard or easy it would be to make predictions at the time of the big bang.
        • by habig ( 12787 )

          Chaos theory applies in some special circumstances but not in most things (for example, getting the Cassini spacecraft to Saturn within a meter of where it was planned after years in space and multiple slingshot moves). In general, all the hard work in understanding any process lies in figuring out what the error bars are. The error bars are largish in weather. They're really under control in astrodynamics. Weirdly enough, the error bars are surprisingly small in cosmology. How do we know? Stressing a

    • by Salgak1 ( 20136 ) <salgak.speakeasy@net> on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @05:59AM (#61423288) Homepage

      The question is, how do you define 'before' when, as least as far as **I** have read, that the phenomenon we call 'time' did not exist prior to whatever destabilized the 'monobloc'.

      But that gets into concepts like "quantum foam", and similar things from the extremely bleeding edge of theoretical astrophysics. . .

      • by Hodr ( 219920 ) on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @06:48AM (#61423370) Homepage

        That only makes sense if time is defined relative to something (matter/energy/entropy) inside our current universe. But if there is a "before the big bang", then there is also an alternate "time" that governs that pre-universe universe that we just don't have the scope to reference.

        • by Salgak1 ( 20136 )

          That only makes sense if time is defined relative to something (matter/energy/entropy) inside our current universe. But if there is a "before the big bang", then there is also an alternate "time" that governs that pre-universe universe that we just don't have the scope to reference.

          I would surmise that there is a time-like element to the underlying quantum foam. But it would be totally non-connected to our concept of time.

          And my understanding of astrophysics at that level is that of an informed layman. I suspect the only way to discuss it with any degree of accuracy would require advanced and somewhat obscure mathematics. . . and would still only be theory: how do you prove anything outside our Universe ?

      • If there is no time events can't happen and "whatever destabilised" couldn't happen either. Ergo time in some form must have existed.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        You do not need "time" for "before". You just need causality.

      • The way I envision it is outside of the human perception of what time is. If you see time as an infinite construct that is the "nothing" pre-big bang that is just sitting there, waiting for something to permeate it, then it would make sense. If you think of Time as a fabric and the big bang as a fluid, then you can see how when the big bang happened, the matter/energy from that big bang, like a fluid, permeated the fabric of time as if you dunked a shirt in water. Water permeates the entire fabric wetting i
    • by Junta ( 36770 ) on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @08:24AM (#61423646)

      A universe with an advanced civilization researching to understand their own big bang. The last words spoken before our big bang were 'let's see what happens when we do *this*'.

    • by Brain-Fu ( 1274756 ) on Wednesday May 26, 2021 @09:24AM (#61423856) Homepage Journal

      We have no means of making observations from that period, so there is no way to present a scientific answer.

      As I understand (please jump in and correct me if I am wrong (as if anyone needed an invitation)), our knowledge of the Big Bang is entirely a result of inference from its very distant after-effects. We observe things like background radiation, the expansion of all observable matter, etc., build mathematical models that describe these observations, and then run them in reverse. Eventually, that shows us a "bug crunch" (since it is running in reverse). So that is how we know everything we know about the big bang.

      But none of us were there. Nobody observed any of this. No direct measurements were made. And there is no way to go back and do this. So we may be surprisingly wrong on many of the particulars. That doesn't mean the model is worthless; it is still the best model we can make that is consistent with all the observations we CAN make. So it is still good. But there isn't any reason to expect that it should be perfect, and there are plenty of reasons to expect that we will adjust it further as new information becomes available.

      But anyway, this means that "I don't know" is a perfectly reasonable answer to give about any sort of precondition of the big bang. Our math doesn't tell us, and we have no way to observe anything that would tell us, so we can't know, so we don't know.

      And popular religious teachers don't know either. They just make stuff up. That is a much worse way to learn stuff about the past.

      • by habig ( 12787 )

        We have no means of making observations from that period, so there is no way to present a scientific answer.

        Not quite true. The speed of light is slow enough, that when we're looking at the cosmic microwave background, we are directly observing what happened in the universe when it was a few hundred thousand years old, and had just cooled off to about 3000K, electrons could stick to protons, and the universe became transparent.

        So, keep in mind that any astronomy is really a time machine, because light is so pokey.

        Also keep in mind that the definition of "scientific answer" is "can we figure it out with the scien

      • by Anonymous Coward

        But none of us were there.

        Generalize much? There are some properly old people around here, like, boomers and stuff.

    • Pretty sure it's just a call to malloc().

    • As Hawking said:
            asking "what came before the Big Bang?"
            is like asking "what is north of the North Pole?'.

      In other words, it's a meaningless question.

  • "What the (expletive) was that!" is what happened in the first Microsecond of Big Bang
  • ...I really do.

    "...so-called hadrons,."

    Why are they phrasing it like that? There isn't any doubt about it. That's what they're called. Not "so-called", "called". If I referred to the "so-called" holocaust, most people except so-called republicans would be upset.

  • Good ol' water under high pressure. Gotta watch out for that wicked phase change. It'll blow up its container. Darn universe can't hold it.
  • I'm really out of my depth here. Chances are that this is a foolish question, but asking in the hope that someone can help clarify in simple terms...

    The OP discusses the fact that the QGP pre-dates the existence of hadrons (e.g. protons in Hydrogen nuclei) and that the QGP existed for the briefest interval of time before the early universe cooled sufficient to permit this to happen. OK. With you so far.

    But the Standard Model tells us that Quarks are (if I get this right), fundamental particles of matt
    • by Jerrry ( 43027 )

      And what about leptons (e.g. electrons)? They're currently thought to be fundamental particles in their own right and not composed of quarks, so if the very early universe consisted of a quark-gluon plasma, where did the leptons come from?

      • I think all elementary particles that have mass can form out of energy, even if they weren't present at that time. And elementary particles that don't have mass, well they are only energy anyway.
      • I think the phrasing indicates that the (large) majority of the energy of the plasma resides in the quarks and gluons, and only a relatively small amount in the leptons (electrons, muons, pions, etc.). Quarks (of several types) have masses of around 500-1000 times that of an electron, while non-electron leptons are 200-300 times that of an electron. There's a more complicated mass-energy distribution law in practice, but particle mass is a significant component of it.
    • I think those particles existed, but they would have been constantly colliding with the quarks and gluons, so their "normal" behaviours would have been swamped. As a loose analogy consider any opaque solid matter. Photons probably exist in there, but they travel almost no distance before they hit an atom and they (mostly) carry much less energy than the interactions between atoms, so the properties of the matter are determined by the atoms,

    • by habig ( 12787 )

      So does this mean that the other force carrying particles, e.g. the W and Z bosons [weak nuclear force], photons [electromagnetic force], did not exist during the QGP phase of the early universe?

      By the time of the QGP, the temperature was too low to provide the needed E to make the mc^2 needed to create that (competitively heavy) W and Z bosons. Earlier, before about 10^-12 seconds, the ambient energy was large enough to make W's and Z's willy-nilly, at which point since they're as easy to make as photons, the electric and the weak fore behaved the same way. So, by the time of the QGP, the W's and Z's weren't much more common than they are today. (by the way: since photons are massless, they're

      • by ytene ( 4376651 )
        Thank you.

        And I'm very sorry to have to ask a follow-up, clarifying question, but in your reply, you say, "By the time of the QGP, the temperature was too low to provide the needed E to make the mc^2 needed to create that (competitively heavy) W and Z bosons.".

        I think I might be struggling with this bit. Are you saying that all of the W and Z bosons in our universe therefore had to be created before the appearance of the QGP? That by the time the universe created to the point where the QGP emerged, th
  • The late Dr. Zerf Blip went to simulate the big bang, but instead triggered a new one.

  • Now we'll be having fucktards order gluon free food.
  • The Big Bang never happened .. it's just a computer simulation!
    • by JackAxe ( 689361 )
      Being ran on a computer called the "Nothing 64" that's also being simulated! Where will it ever end? How does anything exists? :)

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