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Microscopic Wormholes Possible In Theory (phys.org) 52

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Phys.Org: Wormholes play a key role in many science fiction films -- often as a shortcut between two distant points in space. In physics, however, these tunnels in spacetime have remained purely hypothetical. An international team led by Dr. Jose Luis Blazquez-Salcedo of the University of Oldenburg has now presented a new theoretical model in the science journal Physical Review Letters that makes microscopic wormholes seem less far-fetched than in previous theories. [...] The researchers chose a comparatively simple "semiclassical" approach. They combined elements of relativity theory with elements of quantum theory and classic electrodynamics theory. In their model they consider certain elementary particles such as electrons and their electric charge as the matter that is to pass through the wormhole. As a mathematical description, they chose the Dirac equation, a formula that describes the probability density function of a particle according to quantum theory and relativity as a so-called Dirac field.

As the physicists report in their study, it is the inclusion of the Dirac field into their model that permits the existence of a wormhole traversable by matter, provided that the ratio between the electric charge and the mass of the wormhole exceeds a certain limit. In addition to matter, signals -- for example electromagnetic waves -- could also traverse the tiny tunnels in spacetime. The microscopic wormholes postulated by the team would probably not be suitable for interstellar travel. Moreover, the model would have to be further refined to find out whether such unusual structures could actually exist. "We think that wormholes can also exist in a complete model," says Blazquez-Salcedo.

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Microscopic Wormholes Possible In Theory

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  • This paper was submitted to Arxiv on 14 Oct 2020: https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.073... [arxiv.org]
  • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:19AM (#61147152) Homepage Journal

    This reminds me of the Stephen Baxter novel The Light of Other Days.

    In the novel a way is discovered to create microscopic wormholes between two points at will. Initially only data can be sent through, but later they can be seen through. Essentially it is possible to point an invisible, undetectable camera at any point on the Earth.

    At first only governments have access to the technology, but it quickly becomes a commodity and society struggles to cope with the loss of privacy. Without any privacy at all people's behaviours change rapidly, if they can cope at all.

    • I immediately thought of FTL communication, which would be a boon to intergalactic colony ships, but now I'm thinking people will just use it for FTL cat nanny cams.

      • Our current understanding of the universe is that the speed limit for information propagation is the speed of light. It's a big part of causality. If this were possible and it breaks that law it would be very cool.

        • by jbengt ( 874751 )
          Technically, a wormhole wouldn't increase the speed of information propagation. It would reduce the distance.
          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            In the novel (spoiler alert) there is some technobabble about compensating for time and distance, at which point someone realizes that if they can compensate for time they can see into the past.

            I wish there had been more exploration of that idea, and of historic events. It covered a bit of stuff, like Jesus being the illegitimate child of some Roman, but there are so may more interesting historical mysteries and myths.

            • Gotta say that it reminds an awful lot of Asimov's old short story "The Dead Past"

            • The novel did mention that no-one was able to observe the Crucifixion because there were so many wormholes from all the future attempted observers in that region, it was impossible to get a clear signal.

              I always interpreted this as the author's way of hinting 'I'm not touching that one with a bargepole.'

          • Technically, a wormhole wouldn't increase the speed of information propagation. It would reduce the distance.

            The effect to causality is the same. If you can get a signal outside the light cone, it doesn't matter how you accomplish it, you can use it to send a signal to the past.

            People at different frames of reference don't agree on what's simultaneous, and for any event currently in the future, but outside your light cone, you can change your frame of reference so that it's in your past (but still outside your light cone, so you can't send a message to it). That is, unless you can communicate outside your light co

    • by tragedy ( 27079 )

      This reminds me of the Stephen Baxter novel The Light of Other Days.

      Isaac Asimov did the concept first in a short story called "The Dead Past". Did not explicitly mention wormholes. Same concept though. There was a building-sized time viewing device that lets you see the past and a historian wants access, but his research proposals are always denied. He goes to a science writer who hooks him up with a physicist who uses new developments in physics to help him build one in his basement that can sit on a table. A government agent shows up to stop them and it comes out that th

    • Is this the story where one of the scientists figures out how to move the wormhole through time thus making it possible to prove or disprove written accounts of history?

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Yeah. Some of it is not very surprising, e.g. the Moses wasn't an individual but rather a number of stories collected together, and of course he didn't actually part the sea. Some of it was a bit more interesting from memory, but it's been a long time since I read it.

  • You mean Stargate wasn't real?

  • I may not have reproduced an actual wormhole, but here [arxiv.org] is a path to the other side of the paywall without expending any charge.
  • Who would have thought that the Ansible [wikipedia.org] could really exist

  • The word "theory" has two almost exactly contradictory definitions. In scientific contexts is means "A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena." In other words, about as close as can be to something that could be considered, in layman's terms, a "fact".

    In popular usage it means essentially the opposite -- a speculation or hypothesis. And
    • by HiThere ( 15173 )

      Ok... but this is clearly a mix of the two meanings. It's a hypothesis, but it's backed up by mathematical underpinnings that match current physical theory. I'd give it perhaps a 50 to 60 percent chance of being correct, as an outside observer who hasn't looked into it. Perhaps a bit less, and with large error bars. (I.e., it wouldn't surprise me if someone who has looked into it give it either a 5% chance or a 95% chance.)

      That said, the authors clearly admit that they haven't completed development of t

      • Ok... but this is clearly a mix of the two meanings.

        Right, and that's exactly my problem with it. It freely mixes the two meanings. People who don't understand the scientific use of the term then get impression that "just a theory" means something with little support behind it, when in science it's the exact opposite. Then as I mentioned before, they get the false idea that something like the Theory of evolution has little evidence backing it up.

        Because of how polluted the definition of theory has become, as much as possible I've banished it from my vocabu

  • The most exciting result is that the passage of EM waves through a wormhole could make FTL communication possible over extreme distances.

    We may even be able to see faraway worlds up close by altering the placement of the wormhole. This could make it relatively easy to search for life in the Galaxy.
    • by jbengt ( 874751 )
      It wouldn't make communication FTL. It would just reduce the distance the communication has to travel.
      • It would effectively make it FTL since the distance could be traversed much quicker than by the direct route.
        • Unless you sent visible light through the same wormhole. Then it would be travelling the same speed.

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Our understanding of the physics involved and the engineering required to implement this might be decades or even hundreds of years off. But what we can do now is to understand what such intelligently manipulated wormholes might look like. And how to capture or approach one.

      We haven't solved the 'shoot a wormhole across the galaxy' problem yet. But there may be more advanced civilizations who have. So all we have to do to establish communications is to find one and start flashing a light into it.

  • along with the hundereds of other papers on the topic of wormholes. Don't wake me up until the experiment pans out.

  • He and his co-author, Stephen Baxter, wrote a book titled The Light of Other Days in which someone was able to use microscopic wormholes to transmit data. A first it was sound, then pictures, and finally real time (no time delay) two-way communications. A bit later, using the Casimir Effect, this turned into the ability to watch anyone at any time anywhere in the world. Finally, this enabled viewing what happened in the past as if you were there at the time and even going out into the universe to observe

  • Of course they were going to use the Dirac equation. While Schroedinger's equation is useful for 99% of what physics does, this is also a case where relativity needs to be accounted for. Dirac does that.

  • What most fail to consider with this or time travel in general, is that we are constantly moving in space along with everything else. If you traveled back/forward in time 20 years to the same spot you are now, you wouldn't be on Earth. You would be floating in empty space.

    Wormholes would also need to account for the fact that both sides are constantly moving and make constant adjustments.

    This issue may be overcome if you can go through a wormhole in a spaceship and then "fly" to where you want to be. If you

  • Seveneves [nealstephenson.com] by Neal Stephenson.

Marvelous! The super-user's going to boot me! What a finely tuned response to the situation!

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