Singapore Becomes First Country To Approve Lab-Grown Meat (cnn.com) 78
Singapore has granted San Francisco start-up Eat Just Inc. regulatory approval to sell its laboratory-grown chicken in the city-state -- the world's first government to allow the sale of cultured meat. CNN reports: The product, created from cultured chicken cells, has been approved as an ingredient in chicken bites following Singapore Food Agency (SFA) approval, Eat Just said Tuesday. Initially, the chicken bites will debut in a Singapore restaurant, with plans for wider expansion into dining and retail establishments in the country, Josh Tetrick, co-founder and CEO of Eat Just told CNN Business. The product will be priced at parity with premium chicken, he added.
The cultured meat is created in a bioreactor -- an apparatus in which a biological reaction or change takes place -- Eat Just said. It has a high protein content and is a rich source of minerals, according to the company, which plans to sell the product under the GOOD Meat brand. For now, with manufacturing hubs in Singapore and Northern California, the company only has approval to sell the meat in Singapore, but it hopes to expand sales of cultured meat -- including cultured beef -- into the US and Western Europe, Tetrick said.
The cultured meat is created in a bioreactor -- an apparatus in which a biological reaction or change takes place -- Eat Just said. It has a high protein content and is a rich source of minerals, according to the company, which plans to sell the product under the GOOD Meat brand. For now, with manufacturing hubs in Singapore and Northern California, the company only has approval to sell the meat in Singapore, but it hopes to expand sales of cultured meat -- including cultured beef -- into the US and Western Europe, Tetrick said.
Will it taste like chicken? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Anyhow, check out https://xkcd.com/1338/ [xkcd.com]
No meat industry would mean that livestock are no longer ~90% of non-human land mammals.
As most arable land is used to grow food for livestock, assuming this process is more efficient than feeding livestock, we could have significantly more space for wild animals, non-food plants, and other purposes.
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we could have significantly more space for wild animals, non-food plants, and other purposes.
Which we will breed ourselves into because humans are shit that way.
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Which we will breed ourselves into because humans are shit that way.
Birth rates are declining everywhere.
Over a hundred countries already have fertility rates below replacement level (2.1 CPW).
List of countries by fertility rate [wikipedia.org]
Paradoxically, extra resources, including food, cause the fertility rate to fall even faster. Affluent people have fewer children. The fertility rate is highest in Niger, the world's poorest country.
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Fair point; I was just feeling a bit pessimistic this morning.
Sci-fi told me my whole life over population (Score:2)
Either way we're not going to over populate. If we continue to advance civilization then population will decline as people have stuff to do. If we go all Roman Empire on our asses and civilization collapses we'll be back to mass death from childbirth, starvation & disease.
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I look at the map on that wiki page and see that in half the world fertility rate is next to flat and the other half of the world is fucking like crazy and overall the population is still growing.
Idiots fuck more, that can't lead to a good outcome.
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Idiots fuck more, that can't lead to a good outcome.
wrong. poor idiots fuck more.
(i assume that by fuck you (also wrongly) mean 'procreate')
so, easy peasy: redistribute wealth and stop worrying about overpopulation.
the idiots ratio though is another matter, that one will be tough.
Porn (Score:2)
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the other half of the world is fucking like crazy and overall the population is still growing.
You are only looking at the 1st derivative.
You need to look at the 2nd derivative.
The World's population is still going up, but we are well past the inflection point.
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Please just make sure and clearly label it was lab grown meat.
I personally prefer my dead animal to come directly from....dead animal.
I"m happy to pay the extra for it (if the lab stuff proves to be cheaper)....
I"m trying my best to buy and home prepare LESS processed foods. Meat grown in a lab...that's pretty processed from the get go if nothing else.
For my food, as much as possible, I"m for trusting nature and how we've survived to date over lab stuff.
If others w
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Once this is working well, it's going to be time to go ahead and ban using animals for food.
No, "educated free choice" is NOT acceptable when it comes to animal cruelty.
I like meat as much as anybody. But the process of obtaining it from animals is acceptable only so long as it's necessary. Once zero-cruelty meat is practical, it should be the only legal way to get meat.
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So, you're going to ban hunting and fishing and the like too?
Good luck with that.
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Hey, if they want to allow this, ok.
Please just make sure and clearly label it was lab grown meat.
I personally prefer my dead animal to come directly from....dead animal.
I"m happy to pay the extra for it (if the lab stuff proves to be cheaper)....
I"m trying my best to buy and home prepare LESS processed foods. Meat grown in a lab...that's pretty processed from the get go if nothing else.
For my food, as much as possible, I"m for trusting nature and how we've survived to date over lab stuff.
If others want it, more power to them, just please label it clearly so folks can make their choices.
I can't imagine that educated free choice is a bad then, eh?
no worries. part of the process is to wait for people with mindsets like yours to just naturally die out.
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Do you actually expect that to happen?
I mean, especially so with recent trends, post covid of more people cooking at home, becoming "food aware" again after a few decades of them only eating out.
And heck, do you expect the vast number of folks that enjoy hunting and fishing to just give up their hobbies which are not only fun, traditional....and also bring in fresh food?
Sorry, I don't buy it.
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No meat industry would mean that livestock are no longer ~90% of non-human land mammals.
As most arable land is used to grow food for livestock, assuming this process is more efficient than feeding livestock, we could have significantly more space for wild animals, non-food plants, and other purposes.
The argument is that most of the Earth's land is not suitable for agriculture, but it is suitable for grazing. It is also land which verges on desertification, and it has been discovered that the desertification can be reversed by reintroducing ruminants in a properly managed way, a way which mimics how they are supposed to operate in the ecosystem.
Basically, the soil needs grass to help it retain moisture, and the grass needs ruminants to break up the soil, poop on it, pee on it (all that rain water), and
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There's some truth in your comment, but there are other systems, such as permaculture based ones [modernfarmer.com] that seem to be sustainable and provide a better diet. There's plenty of work on other systems like veganic [faunalytics.org] farming which seems to be able to work sustainably. Ruminant meat is not unhealthy as a small part of a diet - but if that was all you lived on, or even a majority of diet, then it would be bad for you. If you look at the diet of hunter-gatherer societies, which seems to be about the most healthy diet w
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Big question? Is this process more or less efficient than feeding chickens? It will require nutrient inputs. I believe that lab grown beef required calf blood serum.
I can't believe that converting nutrients to make lab chicken would be more efficient than just eating these nutrients (for example, corn, soy, etc.) directly.
Also, god knows what chemicals, antibiotics, etc. they add to the vat to make this work.
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It will actually result in more animal suffering (Score:2, Interesting)
For all the criticisms of the food animal industry, domesticated animals usually live long, healthy lives protected from disease and predation. At slaughter, they are killed swiftly in a painless manner. If you get rid of domesticated food animals, the most likely thing to happen is that the grazing land they currently occupy will
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Re:It will actually result in more animal sufferin (Score:5, Insightful)
Let me ask a question for our viewers. Would you personally rather spend your entire (quite short) life locked in a 3ft by 5ft cage with your own faeces, being more or less continually fed and then die quickly (though I don't accept your painlessly - it seems most abattoirs are a big fail when it comes to that bit) or would you rather live a somewhat longer (let's say 50 years) life wild and free with your own wits and considerable skills and then be hunted down and eaten alive by a wild lion? Those are your only two choices and you don't get to opt out and kill yourself. Make the choice.
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Does the cage have wifi?
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Does the cage have wifi?
Yes, but you don't know the password and the system is fully and properly secured. Occasionally people walk by using their devices just to remind you what you are missing.
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99% of farm animals are factory farmed according to a quick google. Source:
https://petpedia.co/factory-fa... [petpedia.co]
Re: It will actually result in more animal sufferi (Score:3)
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domesticated animals usually live long, healthy lives
Chickens are slaughtered at six weeks.
Pigs are butchered at six months.
Cattle are killed for beef at about 30 months.
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Any pork after 6 months old is too tough for Americans not to complain.
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Chickens are slaughtered at six weeks.
Pigs are butchered at six months.
Cattle are killed for beef at about 30 months.
You're being generous talking about the females. The males are killed right away.
All those people talking about "soy boys" implying soy leads to more estrogen, if they eat meat, they're getting a lot more estrogen from all those female animals and their milk.
Re:It will actually result in more animal sufferin (Score:5, Informative)
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Domestic food animals greatly outnumber wild animals.
https://xkcd.com/1338/ [xkcd.com]
Of course, most farm animals are slaughtered as soon as they have reached slaughter-weight - because that makes economic sense. Only females that produce offspring and milk or eggs get to live longer - and only as long as they can produce.
This means that the total death rate of domestic animals greatly outweigh the death rate of wild animals.
While livestock have been bred to be docile, they can often understand in advance that they a
Wouldn't we make the grazing land farm land (Score:2)
Also feel free to look up the conditions of a modern factory farm. I'm not a PETA fan by any means (I'm vegetarian because I don't like meat) but their lives are pretty terrible. Chickens especially. There's a reason why the mega corps that run them have gotten laws passed to make reporting on the conditions a crime (they were struck down by the courts).
And then there's a few truly horrifying specialt
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It really depends on what you consider suffering.
Yes, if we imagine a cow grazing on a vast open ranch. Living a good life. Doing cow things. Grazing. Establishing dominance. Mating... or whatever cows like to do. Then at the end of their life, they are painlessly kill off. That doesn't sound too bad.
If however, they are confined in small spaces, forced fed to make them fat. Denied the change to live a natural cow social life (establishing dominance, mating...)... then are painlessly killed off like an asse
Lockdown (Score:2)
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Sheer fantasy. You seem to be implying that domesticated farm animals don't lead pitiful hellish lives in cramped conditions often very diseased unless they are stuffed full of drugs / antibiotics. Especially in the US but pretty much worldwide. Most humans can not claim to be animal lovers and then eat most meat products that haven't been very carefully sourced from
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And:
https://www.onegreenplanet.org... [onegreenplanet.org]
I had to stop reading.
Re: It will actually result in more animal sufferi (Score:2)
Actually, it sounds like denial. (Score:4, Interesting)
All it does is push the overpopulation crisis and extinction of countelss species a but further to the future. Not prevent it in any way. Rather allow humans to slack off even longer, before facing that problem.
At the cost of countless long-term hard to study food-borne illnesses (as if we didn't already have enough... it's basically 90% of all so-called "age-related" illnesses), and not to forget, shitty, mushy taste and texture.
Just use a freaking condom, would ya? Don't be a dick, don't make more than one kid until we can afford to have two again.
With 500 million humans, nobody needs meat factories, and we can treat animals well and eat them too.
Unless you're one of them city-dwelling nutjobs who pops B12 in secret (they all do, no exception), and thinks feeding his cat or a lion no meat is not the same as torturing and killing it.
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All it does is push the overpopulation crisis and extinction of countelss species a but further to the future. Not prevent it in any way. Rather allow humans to slack off even longer, before facing that problem.
When advancing technology takes away a lefty bullshit problem, their reaction is to replace it with an even bullshittier "problem."
Getting meat the natural way, hunting, depletes natural stocks for all significantly large human populations, so we replaced it with agriculture (Compare with fishing, our one remaining form of commercial hunting). Then you complained about the environmental cost of cattle farming. Advancing further to lab-grown meat is a pure win for both people and animals.
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Just use a freaking condom, would ya? Don't be a dick, don't make more than one kid until we can afford to have two again.
Statistically speaking, you don't need to tell us. You need to tell exotic cultures that we aren't allowed to tell things to.
How's it taste? (Score:1)
Anyone tried this stuff? How does it taste? Is the texture even comparable to meat that came from critter?
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Anyone tried this stuff? How does it taste? Is the texture even comparable to meat that came from critter?
They're putting it in "nuggets", so... who gives a fuck? (shrug)
Will it has structure and fat? (Score:1)
Or will it taste like puree baby food meat.
Re: Will it has structure and fat? (Score:2)
Worse:
Puree baby food unless you want artificial texuring/coloring/flavoring/... that'll make you even more ill than the pure stuff, 10-20 years down the line, when it is far enough removed that the industry can argue the health problems are unrelated. (The sugar industry did that for decades, but is now starting to lose. The processed protein industry still does.)
Are You Sure? (Score:5, Funny)
Soylent Green (the movie) was set in NY in 2022, but surely the "food" had been developed years earlier :P
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It's not meat. Don't call it that. (Score:1, Informative)
Structural differences result in very different effects on the body and very different health properties.
This is to meat what a stack of sheet metal and stock metal is to a car. "But it's made of the same molecules." doesn't make it any faster on the street.
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Huh? Different health properties like what? Your body needs esential amino acids, carbs, and some minerals. It doesn't care about "structural differences". Full synthetic is the way to go. We have to stop killing and exploiting animals for food, it's unnecessary.
Re: It's not meat. Don't call it that. (Score:1)
See... this is what I mean.
People talking, who have never even heard of secondary and tertiary protein structure. Or gut microbiome, for that matter.
And other clueless peeple moderating him up and me as "troll"... clearly not knowing what that word actually even means, or not even caring.
Thanks for a nice examble for why democracy aka mob rule is a bad idea. (Aaand I'm moderated flamebait by people who cannot think beyond "Must hate democracy. Must be enemy. Kill him!" --.--)
How did you get here from the 60
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Structural differences result in very different effects on the body and very different health properties.
Huh? The very first thing your body does with proteins is break them down into amino acids. "Structure" be damned.
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In its current form, lab-grown meat is nothing but the meat you eat, so it's all formed as ground meat or nuggets. Adding structure will eventually make it look like chops, steaks, and rib racks. No difference to the part you eat, though.
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"Structural differences result in very different effects on the body and very different health properties."
As others said, why would structural differences have different effects on the body and different health properties ? It's still the same matter. Why do you think we chew our food? You're basically complaining about texture, which is just another way of saying "I don't want this".
Food of the gods (Score:1)
For every man
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Chicken.
Why not lamb or something delicious? Hell, why not veal, a "problematic" meat, which cries out for a solution? As this is new growth it should pass through this phase before becoming more beefy or muttony.
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Because people won't be able to complain that "it tastes like chicken".
Oh great, if this thing becomes (Score:2)
If this thing becomes common then it will be impossible to order a chicken dish because everybody will be trying to mix in a fake chicken meat to earn an extra buck. In some places, synthetic eggs are being passed for real.
If you can't tell the difference (Score:2)
If it becomes common place odds are you won't be able to, and that safety isn't going to be an issue. Those things are both part of "telling the difference" after all.
In fairness... (Score:2)
Selling lab grown meat isn't illegal in the US as everything not outlawed is legal by default. I'm sure this is true of many other places.
Many reasons (Score:2)
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Lab Grown (Score:2)
It worked out pretty well. Except that the cows keep knocking over the test tube racks.
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First country? (Score:2)
I guess that this restaurant [vegnews.com] does not count.
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Its a test kitchen. Israel hasnt certified lab meat for general consumption.
If members of the general public can get a labburger by reserving a table, how is it not general consumption?
Being a "test kitchen" in this case seems more like a question of scale than certification.
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Members of the general public have received COVID vaccines since September. But you and me cant go to our doctor and get one. Because the members of general public are getting it as part of a trial. Thats why its called a trial.
You and I can reserve a table at that restaurant (subject to COVID restrictions and travel arrangements).