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NASA Administrator Says He Plans To Leave Position Under Biden Administration (theverge.com) 197

NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine says he plans to leave his position at the space agency under the new Joe Biden administration, even if he's asked to stay, according to an interview he did with Aviation Week. Bridenstine said the decision would be to ensure NASA has the right leader who connects with the new president. From a report: "What you need is somebody who has a close relationship with the president of the United States," Bridenstine told Aviation Week. "You need somebody who is trusted by the administration... including the OMB [Office of Management and Budget], the National Space Council and the National Security Council, and I think that I would not be the right person for that in a new administration." President Trump nominated Bridenstine, then a Republican representative from Oklahoma, to lead NASA in 2017. Bridenstine's confirmation became a contentious one, with many lawmakers decrying the idea of a politician running a scientific agency like NASA. "NASA is one of the last refuges from partisan politics," former Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) said during Bridenstine's confirmation hearing in November 2017. "NASA needs a leader who will unite us, not divide us. Respectfully, Congressman Bridenstine, I don't think you're that leader." Eventually, the Senate did narrowly confirm him in April 2018, with lawmakers voting along party lines.
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NASA Administrator Says He Plans To Leave Position Under Biden Administration

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  • Bi den (Score:5, Funny)

    by FrankOVD ( 4965439 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @02:36PM (#60704260)
    Bi den
    • Re:Bi den (Score:5, Insightful)

      by fermion ( 181285 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @02:48PM (#60704310) Homepage Journal
      Exactly. It is inconceivable that anyone is going to be able to survive when rule of law is imposed. This is not to say there are no good bureaucrats around, just that protecting Trump is different from actually running an agency to maximize Taxpayer value
  • Pleasantly surprised (Score:3, Interesting)

    by DamnOregonian ( 963763 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @02:43PM (#60704284)
    I really dislike the guy, but this is a classy explanation for a classy move, so kudos to him.
    Seems the ousting of our petulant-child-in-chief is already changing the discourse.
    • No, it is fake humble-bragging by an unqualified partisan moron who nobody could imagine being asked to stay. LMFAO

      • Well it is like when a person does a fake apology. They at least know at an intellectual level that they did something wrong, while at an emotional level they feel quite justified. But if a fake apology can get the outcome of what you did behind you, might as well.

        In the end doing the Right Thing because it is just expected to do. Vs Doing the right thing because you believe it is the right thing, still has the same outcome of the right thing being done.

        • Yes. See: decorum.

          Dude from the least classy administration in US fucking history demonstrates some class, and now we have a thread full of liberals acting like Trumptards.

          Fucking embarrassing.
      • No, it is fake humble-bragging by an unqualified partisan moron who nobody could imagine being asked to stay. LMFAO

        Very well said. That is exactly what it is...

    • by Mitreya ( 579078 ) <mitreya.gmail@com> on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:13PM (#60704434)

      I really dislike the guy, but this is a classy explanation for a classy move, so kudos to him.

      Of course it could also be that he estimates his chances of being asked to stay at zero percent. But I like your explanation better.

      Seems the ousting of our petulant-child-in-chief is already changing the discourse.

      Not yet, not yet.
      Republicans are distancing themselves, but none of them are publicly saying "Concede and stop embarrassing yourself" to Trump. At best, they are saying "Let the recounts finish", although it seems pretty clear that nothing is changing. While it was close, it wasn't that close.

      • Of course it could also be that he estimates his chances of being asked to stay at zero percent. But I like your explanation better.

        Oh I'm sure that's the reason, absolutely.
        But still, he is choosing to duck out and give a... classy reason for it.
        I think that's good.

        Not yet, not yet.

        I said changing, I didn't say changed.
        Obviously the fucking Trumpian troll-farm is still working to normalize again.

    • To be fair, there is usually a good amount of this when ever leadership changes. Especially when there is a political party change.

      Every boss will want to do things differently. A lot of people who work under the big boss themselves have a job with a lot of power in which the old boss hired them to do things their way, which is inline with the bosses way.

      When a company merges or get bought out. You will often see a lot of execs placing in a resignation, because they know they will not be doing things the

      • I think you missed the point of my post.
        It's not that the a political appointee is leaving after the Administration that appointed him goes (even though, in this instance, the NASA Administrator very often overlaps administrations)

        It's that an otherwise shitheaded dude has done so with laudable class.
    • It is normal that with a new administration, people are replaced. The main objections with many of Trump's appointments were that the people he selected were unqualified. Betsy Devos, Rick Perry, etc.
      • Couple things.
        First, it is more normal for the NASA Administrator to be retained. [wikipedia.org]
        Second, and more to the point since I was never arguing the first:
        What he did was classy. What he said was classy. It didn't have to go that way. It's also normal for the losing President to gracefully accept his loss.
  • by mykepredko ( 40154 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @02:51PM (#60704322) Homepage

    I was never positively impressed with Mr. Bridenstine as administrator. He always seemed to be out of his depth; never really in command, nothing new was created under his watch and he seemed to spend most of his time bitching about problems with those around him. His resignation is a positive and something that redeems him at least as an honourable person that understands that more is required than loyalty to the president (and party).

    The new administrator is really picking up where things were in 2016 but with a few milestones met in the existing plans. This person will have to figure out what is going on with manned space exploration and try to figure out NASA's place in it and they have a lot of work to do on the aviation side of things to have a coherent strategy for the 2030s and beyond.

  • This guy had zero science background and was a US Representative. He was a purely political appointee and nothing else.

    That said let's not give Biden a pass until we see whether he will do better. A NASA administrator should have both scientific bona fides and be a seasoned and accomplished manager / administrator, which is not a position that many could fill.

    • by Mitreya ( 579078 )

      That said let's not give Biden a pass until we see whether he will do better.

      Biden literally could not do any worse, so lets aim higher than "do better" :)
      I also look forward to the day when none of the White House major advisors are close relatives of the president.

    • Last I checked NASA itself is chock full of people with exactly those qualifications.
      • Last I checked NASA itself is chock full of people with exactly those qualifications.

        But those aren't the qualifications for Administrator. Which is a business position, where one administers a very large and complex organization. Where one has to explain to Congress why money spent on a particular project is important. Where one has to persuade politicians. Basically a skill set where engineers and scientists routinely fail.

        The real reason he is out is that he is a advocate of "space 2.0", a more entrepreneurial approach to space development and big aerospace is heavily against him and

    • Sometimes it is better to have a non-scientist doing the Administration, just as long as they realize that their job is Administration, and let the scientist do their work.

      I work in Software Development. Often getting a Manager who use to be a software developer makes the worse manager. Because they don't want to give up their own job. So they want to micromanage people what they are doing, so things would be coded the way he would code them. This is actually not too helpful. Because you need the cod

  • by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:01PM (#60704366) Homepage

    Yeah, NASA is not the kind of place where you need a close relationship with the President. Secretary of State, Chief of Staff, etc. maybe.

    He brought it up because his 'close relationship' with the President was his only qualification.

    So with that gone, even he realizes he has no business being there.

    • by Mitreya ( 579078 )

      He brought it up because his 'close relationship' with the President was his only qualification.

      I look forward to the day when Ivanka Trump releases a similar statement.

      • The Kardashians showed us that that is in no way necessary.

        You only have to be famous ... for being famous.

    • It's really sad that you've been moderated up, because you're completely fucking wrong.

      The NASA Administrator serves as a science advisor to the President, and is an inherently political position.
      Does that mean you should put someone unqualified into the position? No, it does not. But to claim that the position doesn't require a close relationship to the President and the organs of State is dumb as fuck.

      A week in, and you're already chipping away at my faith in liberals.
      • No, it does not. But to claim that the position doesn't require a close relationship to the President and the organs of State is dumb as fuck.
        No it is not dumb. It is simply professional if you give advice to people on a professional level even if you do not agree with their "party line".

        • Department and agency administrators are politically appointed for a reason.

          It is simply professional if you give advice to people on a professional level even if you do not agree with their "party line".

          A close relationship does not imply agreement with their party line, though I suppose I'm not surprised you'd conflate them so in this climate.

    • Which makes him a smarter man than you think, and probably a good candidate for a leader. ;)

  • by marcle ( 1575627 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:11PM (#60704424)

    If you follow the space industry news, SpaceX, etc., you'll notice that most space nerds think he's an excellent administrator, in spite of their initial misgivings. He's navigated the political landscape well, encouraged private space industry and "new space," isn't in bed with Boeing. and has the respect of the rest of the industry. Not every NASA admin has been that good.

    • by Mitreya ( 579078 )

      If you follow the space industry news, SpaceX, etc., you'll notice that most space nerds think he's an excellent administrator, in spite of their initial misgivings.

      I honestly have no idea either way.
      But if he is an excellent administrator, why has he ruled out staying if he is asked to stay?

      • by drnb ( 2434720 )

        But if he is an excellent administrator, why has he ruled out staying if he is asked to stay?

        Note he is an advocated of "new space", "space 2.0". Big aerospace is calling in favors.

      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        Probably because he's done the job and doesn't relish being a political appointee of the wrong colour. Lucrative private consulting positions and $10000 per lecture sounds better than weird glances and feet shuffling every time you walk into the boss's office.

      • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Monday November 09, 2020 @06:50PM (#60705642) Homepage Journal

        > But if he is an excellent administrator, why has he ruled out staying if he is asked to stay?

        He wants to privatize everything he can. He hired SpaceX to land on the Moon and gave Blue Origin a nice contract to try to get into orbit.

        A Biden administration will be like an Obama administration, backing up trucks of cash to ULA and dumping it on SLS, which may still never get off the ground.

        The net result will be less space exploration and more grift. He's not willing to have those fights.

        I was skeptical of him, but he proved me wrong. The guy was at NASA as a college-age kid, which I didn't know back then. He'll wind up in industry wherever he can do the most good. He's not a political hack - he's a politician who is also a real space nerd.

    • If you follow the space industry news, SpaceX, etc., you'll notice that most space nerds think he's an excellent administrator, in spite of their initial misgivings.

      Seemingly you're the only person here with that opinion. Most other comments here are quite critical of his complete lack of anything notable. But to address the things you specifically mentioned:

      - Navigated the political landscape - easy to do when POTUS is your pimp.
      - encouraged private space industry - errrr no, that's not his achievement to take in any form other than it happened on his watch. The breakdown of Boeing and the rise of SpaceX and the private industry was well underway before he even knew h

      • If you follow the space industry news, SpaceX, etc., you'll notice that most space nerds think he's an excellent administrator, in spite of their initial misgivings.

        Seemingly you're the only person here with that opinion. Most other comments here are quite critical of his complete lack of anything notable. But to address the things you specifically mentioned:

        - Navigated the political landscape - easy to do when POTUS is your pimp.
        - encouraged private space industry - errrr no, that's not his achievement to take in any form other than it happened on his watch. The breakdown of Boeing and the rise of SpaceX and the private industry was well underway before he even knew how to spell NASA.
        - respect of the rest of the industry - Industry respects anyone with the decision making power to sign you multi billiion dollar deals.

        I do agree he hasn't been a bad NASA admin, but then I'm more challenging the fundamental premise. He hasn't really been an admin. He's just been *there* and nothing of note has happened as a result with business just ticking away as it was before he came.

        If you go someplace filled with Space Nerds, like the comments on Eric Bergen stories at Ars Technica, there is broad admiration for the guy. Working with both a Democratic House and a Republican Senate simultaneously is a tough job. Congress saddled NASA with some real pork-filled boondoggles, like the SLS rocket. Bridenstine was always careful to say the right things about the SLS while at the same time shifting things to make it much less necessary. He got Commercial Crew back on track, it had bee

    • by boley1 ( 2001576 )

      As one of those space nerds, who also works in the industry, I wish I had mod points to mod you up, but thankfully someone with mod points took care of that.

  • It seems to be the head of NASA should come from within the organization itself. A former astronaut with a science/engineering background, for instance, would probably be the best choice for NASA.
    • That is only half of what's necessary. He should be a good leader and manager *too*.
      Otherwise you get a Peter Principle situation.

      And unfortunately, it's very hard to find somebody who is good at those *two* jobs at the same time. (But on the plus side, you only need one.)

  • Its a shame (Score:5, Insightful)

    by thereddaikon ( 5795246 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:29PM (#60704536)

    Bridenstine has been a great administrator. He has pushed hard for increasing participation of new commercial space entities in an industry that is rampant with pork and graft. SLS has been nothing more than a jobs program and Bridenstine was forcing them to actually get things done. I had hoped he would stay on and continue to guide things but I suppose he decided it was easier to step aside than it was to be tossed out.

    • I think it's hilarious

      He's jumping ship on the assumption that he will be summarily dismissed.

      Because thats how The Trump Administration would do it, an immediate purge of perceived enemies.

      Where's the confidence that he actually did a good job and would be retained in his role because of that fact?

      Seriously folks: Just because the last employer you "had a great relationship with" (bootlicker!) was a complete ratbag doesn't mean that your new employer is one. Of course one understands the concept of bei
      • People generally cannot admit that. Not even to themselves.
        It's exactly the basis for con jobs, and why they work so well. As well as why people defend a crappy product once they decided to invest a lot in it. (E.g. Apple fanboys.)

        The only way out that I know of, is to not see it as "I made a crappy decision, and now I'm going back to not being a moron.", but "I made the best decision that I was able to at the time, and now I've improved on that, and can make an even better decision.". Even if not true, it

    • Re:Its a shame (Score:5, Informative)

      by Kiliani ( 816330 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @04:39PM (#60705018)

      Bridenstine was met with a lot of skepticism when he started, but he really earned the respect of NASA and the wider science community. People should do a bit of research before they blabber on (start with NASA Watch [nasawatch.com] (sorry, no https ...) or many of the other resources).

      Granted, maybe he is the only Republican who could ever admit he was wrong about global warming. But he did, and he turned out to be not only enthusiastic, but he routinely shines with excellent detail knowledge, and he kept White House politics out of NASA (no climate kerfuffle or "science direction" the likes of which NOAA, CDC, and others have had to endure). Instead Bridenstine listened to the science communities –and he tried to steer the ship that is NASA as best as is possible. I'd say he may be better for NASA than the last three or four administrators combined –because he was not an "administrator" but, against all odds, a capable champion of NASA. Find yourself some NASA folks and ask them You may be surprised.

      This may be the first time in a long time that the majority of NASA employees actually may *want* their administrator to stay at such a juncture. And that's sayin' somethin'.

  • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:31PM (#60704558)

    Actually he was a good administrator, have to admit that. I wish he had managed to convince congress to provide companies doing reusable launch systems such as Blue Origin or SpaceX more funding, --- even if that mean gutting Space Launch System (SLS) (which let's face it, as a non-reusable system is a massive waste of money).

  • Bridenstine has shown full support for SLS in all of his choices and his words. SLS needs to die.
    The only time that he backs Commercial space is when Trump/Pence do so. THEN he is fully supportive of SX/BO/etc.

    In addition, rather than work with Bigelow Aerospace, he and his underlings choose to add more tin cans to the ISS and support a NASA person with COSTLY overseas works. Bigelow has shown over and over that they can do this for a fraction of the costs of the tin cans. Yet, Bridenstine pushed him o
  • Being selected by someone who is considered an ass, doesn't automatically make you one. So for those who having been following NASA closely for the past few years, can you comment on how good of a job he did?

    Beyond the selection process, I get the impression he did an okay job, but I haven't been following NASA that closely, so a non-partisan evaluation of him would be good.

  • It's absolutely irrelevant who the president is. You have a job, that is space faring and research, not politics and old boys club circle jerks. That job hasn't changed. Do your job.

    • It's absolutely irrelevant who the president is. You have a job, that is space faring and research, not politics and old boys club circle jerks. That job hasn't changed. Do your job.

      When you resign, it's not your job anymore. Nobody is going to stop doing his job. Why so angry about this?

  • I don't know if Bridie was in the pockets of Big Space or just does what he's told by Incompitrump, but the SLS MUST be stopped before it wastes more tens of billions of dollars, on the way to being rendered *obsolete* by SpaceX ( and possibly even BO too ).

    • by Shotgun ( 30919 )

      Do you have any idea how any of this works?

      Trump himself has very little say in whether or not SLS is completed. These things are funded by Congress, who have all sorts of little call-outs to get things built in their districts. It's not going to get de-funded, because that would be cutting someones welfare job.

  • by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 ) <angelo.schneider ... e ['oom' in gap]> on Monday November 09, 2020 @04:21PM (#60704896) Journal

    Stuff like this is extremely irritating from an European point of view.

    Why is the US always replacing the higher ranks in most agencies when the President changes?
    Makes no real sense, probably the main reason your country makes no real progress.

    Sure, in this situation he probably want to go before he gets fired ... but bottom line: a high ranked official has sworn allegiance to the people and the country. Not to the president. Unless your country is run by cronies who want to pull in family and friends into rewarding positions, it does not make any sense at all to exchange them every 4 - 8 years.

    • "Unless your country is run by cronies who want to pull in family and friends into rewarding positions"

      Kennedies, Bushes, Clintons.

      Nuff said.

    • The US really is run cronies who want to pull family and friends into rewarding positions. The only thing to admire about a America is the tech accomplishments of the few. There is nothing to admire about our nation be it our vile plebs or sociopathic masters.
      Europe should get its act together such that it does not need a USA. That it still does reflects European incompetence not American virtue. There is only one US virtue, our wealth.

  • the US will step back now. Maybe do some robot missions, but anything meaningful will be left to others. It is corp ops now and the CCP along with the Russians.
  • So is he planning to head NASA till 2024?

  • by boley1 ( 2001576 ) on Monday November 09, 2020 @04:46PM (#60705078)

    ...former Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) said during Bridenstine's confirmation hearing in November 2017. "NASA needs a leader who will unite us, not divide us. Respectfully, Congressman Bridenstine, I don't think you're that leader."

    In the beginning most of us space nerds suspected the Senator was right, but in the end, he was wrong. Bridenstine was a great leader who did unite those of interested in advancing space exploration and technology. Granted he was unable to undo much of the congressional pork barrel that is built into NASA's budget, but was more successful than many of his predecessors in working around some of the road blocks congress put in his way. His congressional experience may have in the end been more valuable than any scientific or engineering background. From his deputy down his team had plenty of STEM background.

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