Fitness Influencer Who'd Believed Covid-19 'Didn't Exist' Dies of Covid-19 (dailydot.com) 286
"Fitness influencer Dmitriy Stuzhuk has passed away at the age of 33 after suffering from complications related to COVID-19," reports E! Online.
The Daily Dot points out that Stuzhuk believed COVID-19 "didn't exist" — until he caught it himself after travelling in Turkey: Stuzhuk, who boasted more than 1 million followers on Instagram, tested positive after returning home and immediately went to the hospital. In his final post on Instagram, Stuzhuk, who said that the hospital was "completely filled with people," admitted that he was wrong about the disease and urged his followers to stay vigilant.
"I want to share how I got sick and to strongly warn everyone," he wrote. "I was one who thought that Covid does not exist... Until I got sick..."
Although Stuzhuk was eventually discharged from the hospital after being treated with oxygen, he was rushed back just hours later after his situation began to worsen...Stuzhuk's ex-wife Sofia stated on Instagram that her former husband began having heart-complications linked to "problems with his cardiovascular system..." The couple had three children together, the youngest of whom was just 9 months old.
"Only warm memories remain, three beautiful kids and valuable experience," Sofia said.
The Daily Dot points out that Stuzhuk believed COVID-19 "didn't exist" — until he caught it himself after travelling in Turkey: Stuzhuk, who boasted more than 1 million followers on Instagram, tested positive after returning home and immediately went to the hospital. In his final post on Instagram, Stuzhuk, who said that the hospital was "completely filled with people," admitted that he was wrong about the disease and urged his followers to stay vigilant.
"I want to share how I got sick and to strongly warn everyone," he wrote. "I was one who thought that Covid does not exist... Until I got sick..."
Although Stuzhuk was eventually discharged from the hospital after being treated with oxygen, he was rushed back just hours later after his situation began to worsen...Stuzhuk's ex-wife Sofia stated on Instagram that her former husband began having heart-complications linked to "problems with his cardiovascular system..." The couple had three children together, the youngest of whom was just 9 months old.
"Only warm memories remain, three beautiful kids and valuable experience," Sofia said.
A Darwin Award for him (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A Darwin Award for him (Score:5, Informative)
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He has 3 kids already, so he didn't remove himself from the gene pool.
Offspring are not an automatic disqualification for a Darwin Award [darwinawards.com].
A bigger problem is that the winner's demise must be directly caused by their own action. His denial of the existence of Covid was certainly idiotic, and his carelessness made him more susceptible to infection. But plenty of careful people do contract the disease while plenty of careless people don't. So there is no direct chain of causality between his behavior and his death.
Re: A Darwin Award for him (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, how many of his followers did he remove from the gene pool?
#covidiot is his final hashtag, and deservedly so for profiting off endangering others.
Any of his followers who got covid should sue his estate. Same as anyone following Trump who got covid.
Re: A Darwin Award for him (Score:5, Informative)
Any of his followers who got covid should sue his estate.
They would almost certainly fail:
1. Courts apply a "reasonable person" standard. Would a reasonable person believe this idiot? I don't think so.
2. The plaintiff would have to show a "duty of care". Did they pay anything for his advice? Was any obligation even implied?
3. I doubt his "estate" amounts to much, and the welfare of his kids would take precedence over any payout.
Disclaimer: His death occurred in Ukraine where most of his followers also live, and I know nothing about Ukrainian law.
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Any of his followers who got covid should sue his estate. Same as anyone following Trump who got covid.
The office of POTUS has legal authority and responsibilities, and normally has at least some valid claim to wisdom and good sense. Prior to Trump, (who's stupider and more malicious by far than all of his worst predecessors combined), the White House in general has largely been worthy of trust when it comes to things like public health. So by all means people who got Covid by following Trump's advice should sue - he both failed in his fiduciary obligations and just plain lied.
OTOH, people who got Covid beca
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Trump, (who's stupider and more malicious by far than all of his worst predecessors combined)
James Buchanan may have stupider.
I would give Andrew Johnson the award for maliciousness. The long term effects of his policies were much more malevolent than Trump's are likely to be.
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Any of his followers who got covid should sue his estate.
Did he offer any covid-related advice other than warning people? The article does not say.
The article quotes him as saying "I also thought", not "I have been saying".
The guy was an successful influencer, and this is one of the oldest tricks in the book. If you want to convince people that X is false, then you say "I used to believe X, but after Z I've realized that X is false."
Many slashdotters would prefer to write. "People who believe X are idiots. X is obviously untrue because of Z." This may seem like a
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If you want to convince people that X is false, then you say "I used to believe X, but after Z I've realized that X is false."
Many slashdotters would prefer to write. "People who believe X are idiots. X is obviously untrue because of Z." This may seem like a stronger statement. But those whose opinion you would like to change are likely to downmod after reading the first sentence, and never even get to the second one.
I really like this. It's been bothering me for a long while how to deal with those who suffer from the backfire effect on social media. (backfire effect: https://yourbias.is/the-backfire-effect)
I've learned that in real life you need to first establish something you have in common with the person, which works to break down their automatic defensive stance against anything you say. Then you can start to feed facts to them that will change their opinions. But, on social media, there seems to be no opport
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There is an element of probability in any Darwin award. I would wager that nearly all winners had a history of doing things that carried what most would consider an unacceptable risk of fatality before their number came up.
It's a bit of a grey area, but his actions did greatly increase his odds of becoming a statistic. As they say, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Re: A Darwin Award for him (Score:2)
Min othervwords was it more likely that his actions contributed to others contracting covid? Kind of hard to argue they made it less likely among his followers.
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Only 0.5% of the world's population has contracted Covid so far.
With 1.1M confirmed deaths and 0.5% IFR, that would be 3% of the world's population. That's a lower limit, since the number of deaths is likely an underestimate.
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You can still go murder his kids.
Or, you know, don't be a genocidal monster. Try not being terrible. How about that?
Re: A Darwin Award for him (Score:5, Informative)
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Those numbers seem to be about right. This year definitely seems to be well on track to having an order of magnitude more Covid-19 deaths than an average flu season. What alternative numbers are you claiming?
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In addition to the questionable idea that people deserve to die of Covid-19, he had three kids, so no Darwin award.
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Not people in general, just people like this guy. Having had children already is not disqualifying: https://darwinawards.com/rules... [darwinawards.com]
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But he won't have any more
Re: A Darwin Award for him (Score:2, Insightful)
Unlikely (Score:2)
There has to be a certain creativity and uniqueness in you stupidity to be considered and there are many people like this.
Re: Unlikely (Score:2)
Same as if he had encouraged them to smoke by claiming, like Mike Pence, that smoking wasn't dangerous, and then dying of lung cancer. >p> Or faith healers claiming that HIV can be can be cured by prayer if gay people repent of their so-called sins then dying of AIDS he got from a male prostitute.
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It's amply deserved.
So long as you agree that you deserve to die for the mistakes you made, and outright stupid shit you’ve done, I think your point is a fair one.
But let’s face it, you don’t think that at all. After all, you’re you, and you’re a human being, unlike the fictitious cartoon characters you read about online. Go tell his grieving family that he deserved it to their face, and if nothing else, I’ll respect you. I doubt you’d do that either, though.
No,
Re: A Darwin Award for him (Score:3)
Only sociopaths believe that.
As for his widow, she obviously failed (did she even try) to deter him. Either she wilfully put herself and the kids at risk or she moved out.
' This is 2020 - women have agency. Which also means bearing responsibility for their decisions.
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Wait for the autopsy. What drugs were in his system?
The kind of drug that, after being introduced to the body, has its effects countered by the introduction of oxygen, but then return hours later and at levels capable of stopping the heart.
What drug did you have in mind that satisfies both requirements?
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Steroids are used in the treatment of COVID.
Re:A Darwin Award for him (Score:4, Funny)
you remind me of a Monty Python sketch. A man in the colonial forces in Africa is missing his leg, the netting around his tent is torn to shreds and the men are speculating that it must have been a virus or something and the doctor advising that it's no big deal, he should just favor the other leg.
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You apparently refuse to admit (even to yourself) that anyone under 80 can die of COVID in spite of clear evidence to the contrary. That isn't science or facts at all.
You've even gone so far as to speculate that the victim in TFA MUST have taken steroids, then restated the speculation as fact, further guessed (and then re-stated as fact) that the steroids that he MUST have been taking MUST have damaged his heart. All without even a hint of evidence. That is not fact or science.
You're right up there with the
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OTOH, if I had a 2-5% chance of dying for losing and no prize at all for winning, why would I play?
Re:A Darwin Award for him (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm not sure why I am even arguing with people here.
I don't know why you are, but as for the rest of us, this latest line of obsession from covid-deniers like you, namely, "He was killed by a pre-existing condition, not covid!" is ridiculous and needs to be challenged at every opportunity
If I have a lame leg which means I can't run very fast and I'm killed by a bear because I couldn't run away, the lame leg didn't kill me, THE BEAR DID.
Re:another Covid dissident dies suddenly (Score:5, Insightful)
From the beginning there have been a number of suspicious deaths of outspoken critics of the Covid tyranny. People in statistical low risk cohorts who suddenly succumb to "Covid". Much more quickly than your typical elderly SARS-CoV-2 patient succumbs. It's a very curious thing...
It's actually really easy to explain with science. Like most viruses, the risk of COVID-19 is proportional to the initial dose. People who take precautions and minimize their exposure and wear masks have a low risk of dying, assuming all else is equal, even if they still get sick, whereas people who call it a hoax and have COVID parties have a high risk of dying, assuming all else is equal.
Moreover, as I understand it, the risk of death remains unequal even after adjusting for their relative risk of getting the virus in the first place, because the people who don't take precautions are not just more likely to be exposed; they're also much more likely to get a higher initial dose.
Given that this particular person was a fitness instructor who believed that the virus was a hoax, I would not be surprised if he were continuing to give in-person instruction. And when it comes to your odds of getting a lethal dose, aerobic exercise around other people without masks is about as high-risk an activity as you can get. If one of the other people in the class is shedding, you're toast. About the only more dangerous jobs I can think of are first responders and medical personnel.
This is generally true for all of the cases you find "suspicious". Calling a deadly virus a hoax and then running around like a maskless idiot is the epidemiological equivalent of running blindfolded into an active minefield. The only thing suspicious about such a death is the question of why there was a minefield in the first place.
To paraphrase Mark Twain... (Score:5, Insightful)
The main who refuses to believe anything he reads has no advantage over the man who cannot read.
Re:To paraphrase Mark Twain... (Score:4, Interesting)
The main who refuses to believe anything he reads has no advantage over the man who cannot read.
The problem isn't people not believing what they read, it's believing the wrong things because they can't differentiate fact from fiction [bbc.com].
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Telling fact from fiction is easier said than done. Nobody is entirely trustworthy -- the government, the mainstream media, the alternative media. Most people who think of themselves as "skeptics" aren't really skeptical at all -- they're just credulous toward alternative authorities.
Even people who have a geeky interest in science end up rationalizing beliefs with little evidence support, because in a complex world you can always find some straws to grasp at. What are ordinary people going to do? They
Re:To paraphrase Mark Twain... (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, exactly. You like fiction and push fiction, pretending it is true.
Except that is exactly what happened. Lying Rudy got caught red-handed [cnn.com] spreading a Russian disinformation message [go.com].
The Washington Post reported Thursday that intelligence agencies had warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. The newspaper, citing four former officials, said that assessment was based on information including intercepted communications showing Giuliani had been in contact with people tied to Russian intelligence.
The newspaper said national security adviser Robert O’Brien had warned Trump that information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia, but that Trump brushed off the warning.
. . .
Andrii Derkach, the Ukrainian parliamentarian who is one of Giuliani’s principal contacts, was mentioned in an August intelligence assessment that described a concerted Russian effort to disparage Biden. A Treasury Department sanction announcement from last month characterized Derkach as an “active Russian agent for over a decade."
But here's where it gets really interesting. This supposed laptop was dropped off in Delaware to a blind guy who couldn't identify the person, a laptop which had no security whatsoever on it, a laptop which the guy illegally made a copy of the hard drive before turning it over the FBI, a laptop which the owner never picked up after asking for a repair. Mind you, Hunter lives in California, so for this story to make even the remotest possible sense he would have had to have flown across the country, driven drunk to this shop (Lying Rudy said the owner said the guy was drunk. How, we don't know, but that's Lying Rudy for you), dropped off the laptop which apparently contained all this sensitive information, then completely forgot about it.
If ever there was a case for Occam's Razor, this is it.
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Appealing sentence, yet these are not comparable this way. Someone of the first type will have different mental processes to someone of the second type, and both will receive all kinds of information via various channels.
Re: To paraphrase Mark Twain... (Score:3)
Yeah, some will be fully functional adults who can elicit empathy for their fellow human beings while others will join the Trump cult and whine about "CO2 toxicity" from wearing masks.
Mark Twain replies (Score:3)
The man who refuses to believe anything he reads has no advantage over the man who cannot read.
"When the Internet is invented, please don't screw up my quotes." - Mark Twain
Science (Score:2)
Science. It works, bitch.
measured intelligence vs practical intelligence (Score:2)
So, he laughed at the virus. I wonder how many of his followers did the same?
These stories seem to demonstrate the difference between measured intelligence and practical intelligence. If you waste an entire human brain on conspiracies and misinformation, Saint Darwin may appear. If you ignore science during a pandemic, you may die or kill other people.
I am sincerely sorry for his kids.
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In the early days of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, there were scientists that supported the idea that herd immunity would damp down the spread of infection naturally. It was not known at that time how lethal the disease is. I supported the idea of herd immunity, based on explanations by epidemiologists. It turns out I was wrong, as later data fed into statistical models indicated an unacceptable death toll if the disease were allowed to spread without controls such as quarantine. So now, on the basis of ne
DEFINITELY 'Evolution in Action' (Score:2)
People dying of a preventable illness is always tragic, but on the other hand perhaps it's not such a bad thing if the really, really stupid people get made an example of to everyone else who is otherwise being stupid about it; maybe we're seeing the average intelligence of all humans increase slightly as a result.
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The problem is that they tend to take others with them. The idiot who refuses to wear a mask or who opts for a chin diaper just to be defiant is risking the lives of everyone else in the grocery store. Perversely, Mr. or Ms. chin diaper is protected to a degree by the people they endanger who are wearing a mask and practicing social distancing.
If the people refusing to take basic precautions only endangered themselves I'd be fine with whatever decision they might make, but unfortunately they DO tend to take
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The gist of this story is: Ignore science at your own peril.
That's basically a nerdy bumper sticker, right there.
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Jerks pointing fingers and laughing at the misfortune of people who aren't like them? That's Slashdot alright. It's every public discussion about everything. This is America.
Re:This is not a /. story, for fuck's sake. (Score:5, Insightful)
> What the FUCK makes this "news for nerds" or "stuff that matters"?
Sorry the entire fields of psychology, sociology, and epidemiology don't meet your scientific preferences. Your kind of nerds only on this site, amirite?
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People magazine
I'm still waiting for the alien baby stories like Weekly World News.
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Look at the title at the top of your browser window.
All that needs to be said (Score:2)
Can be summed up in six words [9cache.com].
There is only one reality (Score:2)
And your opinion doesn’t determine what it is. Works for everything, including religions, homeopathy, flat earth, global warming, healing crystals, vaccination-caused autism, and the moon landing.
Your and everybody’s yardstick should be verifiable facts. Not someone else’s opinion, not even if it is from your favorite political party. Reality may have a liberal bias, but no political party has a monopoly on being right. Call yourself a demoblican and fight nonsense and opinions that aren
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My guess is that there are a lot of people that do not understand what a "fact" is and that it is not subject to opinion. Unfortunately, quite a few people with this problem are successful and get into position of power. For example, the US is about to get a new supreme court judge that thinks global warming a political topic and not a fact. A system that can bring people _this_ defect into high control instances will eventually bring it all crashing down.
And now he doesn't exist (Score:2)
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That is an interesting philosophic question.
Lets start at the beginning: we assume the wood exists?
From fitness influencer to fitless influenza (Score:2)
Not only did he die of something he didn't believe in, it also looks like he wasn't all that fit either, seeing as though he died quite young.
Oh the irony...
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Lots of muscles don't help the immune system. There are indeed people who seem to think that building up muscles is the same as being healthy. You will likely be more healthy by doing cardio exercises that don't bulk you up.
This is a little bit flame bait, right? (Score:2)
A random person, who happens to have stated Covid isn't true, dies from it.
Sad for him, but this article screams flame bait - as if this subject isn't already just another "scientists are the enemy" situation.
There are theories that humanity is regressing back to ... pretty much witchcraft ... even in developed countries.
That we are headed back to an age of ignorance, where conspiracy theories abound and science is "not to be trusted".
Pretty damn obvious where this mindset comes from - the manipulation of m
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You belong to that set of persons who believe the world is as small or only consists of "United States of Awesomeness".
Rest assured: the world is a tiny bit bigger.
It's easy to blame a dead guy. Don't. (Score:2)
Place the blame where it is deserved.
There are thousands of others like him that were not "YouTube influencers" that have also died due to their ignorance. These are people near you, who believed the same nonsense he believed and then died from COVID.
It was not deserved. These are innocent (but gullible) people that were duped by incessant propagandists, and their flashy propaganda corporations, and their distasteful supporters and distasteful enablers. Companies like Sinclair Broadcasting and Facebook
We can snark all we want (Score:5, Insightful)
But, even though the guy was not the brightest bulb in the box, it’s still sad that three young kids don’t have their father around now.
Nietzsche vs. God Redux (Score:5, Funny)
"Covid-19 doesn't exist!" -- Dmitriy Stuzhuk, some time ago.
"Dmitriy Stuzhuk doesn't exist!" -- Covid-19, today.
That proofs it. (Score:2)
He is gone, so is the evidence.
COVID does not exist!
Funny how the media loves highlighting this.... (Score:2)
I mean, it seems like nobody who believed COVID19 wasn't a real, unique disease but wound up getting it and suffering or dying from it is immune from media coverage? The sad part, really, is that a father of 3 kids passing away in his early 30's isn't even considered newsworthy in and of itself. We're FAR more concerned about making fun of how "stupid" the guy was for not believing in COVID.
Meanwhile, I'm not even sure the people wanting to use this as part of an agenda are getting why others disagree with
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"Fitness" influencer (Score:2)
From the correlation-does-not-equal-correlation files, one might also conclude that this guy's fitness regime doesn't mean that the guy is actually healthy. It's entirely possible that the kale smoothies he was doubtless drinking and the plethora of other dietary choices may have in fact compromised his immune system.
"Influencer" crapola needs to end (Score:3)
Heart condition at 33. Almost universal... (Score:5, Informative)
I am a cardiologist.
Here's the thing about heart disease. Heart disease is a general term for a lot of heart conditions, the most common is coronary artery atherosclerosis, which means plaques of cholesterol in the arteries (blood vessels) that supply the heart.
These plaques do NOT start in your 40s or 50s. They start much younger (think teens and 20s) as thin streaks of cholesterol that line the arteries of the heart. During lectures, I joke that it starts the first time you walk under the golden arches of McDonalds. But it's probably almost any calorie-rich diet that will do it. Heart disease is almost universal. Unless you're foraging for berries in the amazon, you probably have it.
In general, these streaks lay dormant for many years. Then you get some sort of stress (ie: an episode of high blood pressure, some amazingly fatty meal, a wiff of smoke, an infection (viral or otherwise) and one of the streaks of cholesterol fractures and reforms and goes from 0% stenosis (not blocking the bloodflow at all) to maybe 20% stenosis... which you don't notice at all.
This happens randomly over the decades. Maybe the next stress causes a different part of the streak to go fro 0% to 30%. Or maybe the 20% goes to 50%. It's a random event that you don't even notice is happening in your body.
If it goes to ~70% or more, maybe it will make you a little short of breath when you get active. And you tell yourself you're "just getting older".
If it goes to 95% or more, then you start getting symptoms at rest or minimal exertion and go to the hospital with chest pain.
So don't think that it's the rare person in their 30s who's at risk of complications from Covid-19 because they have underlying heart disease. We all have heart disease.
Re:News media at fault (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:News media at fault (Score:4, Insightful)
>"The Internet has given voice to anyone who cares to have their voice heard -- regardless of what's coming out of their mouths being total and complete bullshit, or the ravings of a broken, irrational mind."
Thus is the price of freedom, especially in the information age.
The correct response is to teach people to think in school. Logic, debate, critical thinking, none of which is taught in any reasonable amount in public schools. We need to adapt to the concept of having a flood of information at our fingertips.... it hasn't been around long.
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Logic, debate, critical thinking, none of which is taught in any reasonable amount in public schools.
It is, just not in the US of awesomeness.
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You can lead a jackass to water but you can't make him think.
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Re: News media at fault (Score:2)
We have a word for that: CULT
Re: News media at fault (Score:2)
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These is reality. The problem is how the media spins it and what w
Re: News media at fault (Score:5, Informative)
Can we agree that polio is a serious disease? Measles?
In the US before vaccines the paralysis rate from polio was 15,000 per year, of which 5-15% died. Measles death rate was ~0.1% but much higher rates of permanent injury to hearing, the brain, etc.
Covid has killed well over 200,000 people in LESS THAN A YEAR. And that's with significant precautions like wearing masks in public and shutting down many types of businesses. Many of those that survive, even those who were outwardly asymptomatic, have been found to have persistent, perhaps permanent, damage to their hearts, vascular system, and more.
But because the disease disproportionately affects seniors and people of color, they are not worthy of a disruption to our daily lives to get it under control? Someone born with a health problem is just expendable? Eating too many Cheetos warrants a death sentence?
I encourage you to go back and read the archives of times during polio outbreaks. Read about how public places and schools were shut down because the risk was deemed too great. The pain at seeing a loved one suffer permanent damage from measles.
Now consider how future historians will view those that attended political rallies without masks and advocated for wanton sacrifice of folks over 65 (read: grandparents) as though a large portion of the population home sick or in the hospital is somehow beneficial to an economy.
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The death rate to vocid is between 3% - 4% averaging out at 3.7%.
What christ?
You are to stupid to read news? What has Christ or any "god" to do with that?
It is simple math. !00 ppl get it, 4 die. Simple to calculate. Oh, that makes it 4%.
Obviously that means: ppl with symptoms and not ppl who are asymptomatic. Hence you don't grasp the problem.
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The official death toll of cases ending up in hospital is close to 10%, ppl who are hard cases as in having symptoms is 3% - 4%.
No idea about what you want to argue.
https://www.worldometers.info/... [worldometers.info]
Pick a country and do your own math, welcome.
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You're pulling numbers out of your ass. 160 million would be 50% infected, actual surveillance shows a small fraction of that.
Re:News media at fault (Score:5, Insightful)
The public does not cause news media dishonesty.
Yes they do.
The public is drawn toward news sources that reinforce their preexisting world views, whether the news is true or not.
So news outlets that give the public what they want will prosper while honest outlets fade away.
Also, it is much more expensive to seek out facts than to just make stuff up, so the liars also benefit from lower production costs.
Re:Enough with the FUD already (Score:5, Insightful)
But how many people think car accidents or heart attacks don't exist?
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There also anecdotal stories about people that died in car accidents or having a heart attack while out running
But how many people think car accidents or heart attacks don't exist?
Also, exactly how infectious are car accidents or heart attacks?
Re:Enough with the FUD already (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, exactly how infectious are car accidents or heart attacks?
Well, car accidents can be very infectious to other drivers and pedestrians.
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You can easily catch a car accident from an idiot in a different lane.
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I had 3 car accidents.
But that are only 3 anecdotes and not hard data or hard facts.
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You can believe in covid and still be happy.
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I do not believe in COVID. ...
I pray to Sif
Re:Enough with the FUD already (Score:5, Interesting)
The problem is that there are people who have a huge influence that try to claim that healthy people can't get sick from covid, others saying that because they're in great shape that they should not be forced to wear a mask, and so forth. We even have moronic politicians who belittle the disease. So yes, even if you're a body builder, fitness guru, under 30, feel great right now, it does not mean it's a hoax or that you can't get sick.
And as far as not wearing a mask, sheesh. Some continue claiming that it is not constitutional to require one (US that is), and yet it is perfectly legal to require people to wear clothes when they go outside in public. These aren't people who read the constitution, these are people who hear professional pundits shout about it on the media. The constitution with all the amendments is relatively short. Shorter than most voter guides. And yet so many people refuse to read it and prefer to quote it out of context (reminds me of many religious texts in that sense).
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The problem is that there are people who have a huge influence that try to claim that healthy people can't get sick from covid ...
There was (and still is) evidence that Covid-19 is most dangerous to older people, and to those with pre-existing health conditions. But people do not understand statistics. It is possible to be young and fit, and still get fatal complications with Covid-19. This does not contradict the basic statistical model. I have no intention of becoming an outlier statistic. Actually, truth be told, I probably am an outlier statistic already, as a man in his sixties, with a history of pneumonia, where the the only lin
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Re:Enough with the FUD already (Score:5, Insightful)
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The funny thing about mask zealots is they seem to think it is magic. ... But a paper mask? Doubtful it does much, unless it is to stop a sneeze from propagating as far.
They help a little sometimes. Zealots are just being jerks. Because they are jerks and because their crowd keeps going along with it instead of telling them to stop being jerks.
Re:Enough with the FUD already (Score:5, Insightful)
Stop letting other people with a political agenda make you miserable.
Covid-19 fearmongering is a political agenda? To what end? Bring the economies of the planet Earth to its knees, so the Martians can take over?
The entire fucking planet is dealing with this pandemic. It is not an insidious dark scheme to undermine your favored (and very likely, American) political party.
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For every 1,000 people infected with the coronavirus who are under the age of 50, almost none will die.
I really like the role the "1,000 people" plays in this sentence, you can't change it to, say, 500 or 10,000 without invalidating the message
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Incorrect. Smoking kills 480,000 Americans every year. Every year. Year in and year out.
Well, to run with the absurd logic of covid deniers, your statistic is dead wrong. I betcha out of all those 480K death certificates, only a tiny fraction lists "smoking" as the cause of death.
In other words, can't fix stupid, and no point arguing with it either.
Re:Non-Belief not did cause his death (Score:4, Insightful)
Had he believed in COVID, he might have taken basic precautions that prevented him form getting COVID and dying.
Kinda like someone who believes in gravity is less likely to walk off of a cliff...