After Trump's Musing About Injecting Disinfectants, Spike in Calls to Poison Control Centers (msn.com) 399
America's generally pro-Trump media site Fox News felt compelled to report today that "Some poison control centers reported a spike in calls following President Trump's suggestion that injecting disinfectant might help people infected with coronavirus."
The comment alarmed medical professionals around the world. The president subsequently claimed on Friday that he was being "sacrastic," although at the press conference he was soberly addressing health experts on the coronavirus task force, urging them to launch a study.
Lysol parent company Reckitt Benckiser issued a statement Friday reminding people that "under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route)." In Maryland, the Emergency Management Agency received over 100 calls inquiring about the president's suggestion, forcing the service to issue an alert to remind citizens that "under no circumstances should any disinfectant product be administered into the body through injection, ingestion or any other route." Washington State's Emergency Management Division similarly issued a public statement to remind people to not "drink bleach" or "inject disinfectant."
More concerning, though, is the number of people who actually went ahead with the suggestion. In New York City, the Daily News reported that the Poison Control Center saw 30 cases of "exposure to Lysol, bleach and other cleaners in 18 hours after Trump's suggestion" that cleaning products might be used to treat coronavirus. NYC Poison Control saw only 13 such cases in a similar period last year.
Anna Sanders, who wrote the Daily News article, reported that no one died or was hospitalized as a result.
"After raising the idea of putting disinfectant inside people's bodies, Trump cautioned Thursday that he's not a medical expert," reports one New York-based news site.
" 'Maybe you can. Maybe you can't. I'm not a doctor. I'm, like, a person who has a good you-know-what,' Trump said, pointing to his head."
Lysol parent company Reckitt Benckiser issued a statement Friday reminding people that "under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route)." In Maryland, the Emergency Management Agency received over 100 calls inquiring about the president's suggestion, forcing the service to issue an alert to remind citizens that "under no circumstances should any disinfectant product be administered into the body through injection, ingestion or any other route." Washington State's Emergency Management Division similarly issued a public statement to remind people to not "drink bleach" or "inject disinfectant."
More concerning, though, is the number of people who actually went ahead with the suggestion. In New York City, the Daily News reported that the Poison Control Center saw 30 cases of "exposure to Lysol, bleach and other cleaners in 18 hours after Trump's suggestion" that cleaning products might be used to treat coronavirus. NYC Poison Control saw only 13 such cases in a similar period last year.
Anna Sanders, who wrote the Daily News article, reported that no one died or was hospitalized as a result.
"After raising the idea of putting disinfectant inside people's bodies, Trump cautioned Thursday that he's not a medical expert," reports one New York-based news site.
" 'Maybe you can. Maybe you can't. I'm not a doctor. I'm, like, a person who has a good you-know-what,' Trump said, pointing to his head."
It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Informative)
Calls to the poison control hotline have been up since March, as people have been using a *lot* more cleaning products. There is little to no evidence of a "spike."
https://reason.com/2020/04/25/... [reason.com]
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Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
He's a CEO who brain storms aloud. Many do. We're used to expecting say-nothing-of-substance politicians who ply us with platitudes and nothing of value. Trump is trying. People are just not used to that, in a president.
We're not used to a President who says crazy stuff off the top of his head on national television. He simply has no self control or concern for the consequences of his public utterances.
Consider this: If it was *you* standing in front to those cameras instead of Trump, would you have said what he said?
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
What I find amazing is how many people are defending the president over this. A headling showing up in my facebook feed: Stable Genius Tricks MSM Again. Baiting Them To Report On NEW TECHNOLOGY". And then someone comments "They fell for it again!"
Seriously?? The honest believe it was a ploy for Trump to trick the media to laugh at him, then he pulls out his trump card by pointing at research by Aytu Bioscience? No way is Trump that subtle or able to think that far ahead. It's a slightly better excuse than "he was being scarcastic", but it's an amazing mental stretch to believe that. If it were true, do they think it's good for the president to just be trolling all the time, pretending to be stupid so that the media gets spoofed? If he had indeed trolled the media, why was he suddenly much less open on the Friday update and not taking any reporters questions, why would he pretend to be embarrassed instead of gloating at his joke?
Absurd the lengths his fans will go to in order to defend the indefensible. But he's their lord and savior and can do no wrong. I
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Absurd the lengths his fans will go to in order to defend the indefensible. But he's their lord and savior and can do no wrong.
It's quite simple. They voted for him thinking he'd be their savior. They went all in. Now that he's saying dumb stuff he makes them look like dumb suckers. So they defend all that dumb stuff in a hopeless attempt to regain their dignity and to save face.
They tried doing the same with Bush, but after it became obvious to everyone that he lied to them (Iraq, Katrina, "heck of a job Brownie") they simply gave up and blamed Bush for misleading them, saying "everyone was fooled so why pick on me?"
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:2, Informative)
Katrina, no. The way disasters are handled in our federation of states, the local and state government are responsible for the preparation as well as initial response. The FEMA isn't responsible for ANYTHING unless the governor requests assistance and the president approves which is always an after math occurrence. Also, let's keep in mind Katrina was a pretty nothing hurricane and if the local
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Bush's mistake was that he never doubled down on lies when they were exposed, and he seemed to actually care about people other than himself and only lied when he believed it was for the greater good. He wasn't prepared to instantly throw former allies under the bus at the first difference of opinion either, so those around him had too much freedom to think.
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Informative)
You've posted this multiple times, why not provide a citation? BTW "in-vitro" doesn't mean what you obviously think it means, it means "in glass". I think you mean in vivo [wikipedia.org]
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Yet there are a class of substances that are in-vitro disinfectants (check your flu shot).
Nowhere did Trump advocate injecting bleach or Lysol.
I thought back when Slashdot was founded the first 10000 users were smart. Way to go disproving the theory that Slashdot has gone done hill. Clearly it was living below sealevel all along.
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Absurd the lengths his fans will go to in order to defend the indefensible. But he's their lord and savior and can do no wrong. I
Pssst! Don't interfere with the process of natural selection.
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We're not used to a President who says crazy stuff off the top of his head on national television. He simply has no self control or concern for the consequences of his public utterances.
He's been in office over 3 years, why aren't you "used to it"?
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Because every month if not every week, he plunges to some previously unplumbed depth of crazy. It's hard to normalise when it's such a moving target.
Plus: if everybody gets used to it, then congratulations - you've normalised the crazy and your country will dive even faster straight to hell.
So if you ARE getting used to it: oh boy, are you in deep trouble.
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Trumps statements were more towards a potential field of research, not a home remedy suggestion. ... Trump is trying.
How can anyone even try to start defending that statement? Like, do you not know that we can see the mental gymnastics required? He's the president. When he says things, people all over America and the world are watching, with varying degrees of sense. The words a president mutters often cause economic and health disasters on small scales. This is why they're supposed to choose their words carefully. If you want a society to function well, you want cool, calm people in charge, so businesses can plan and grow peacefully.
So he's trying? This isn't a 3rd grade t-ball game, he's the freakin president. Go give your participation award to someone who really is trying to do something besides distract us from the firing of the pandemic response team in 2018.
President has no advisers? (Score:3)
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Who do you think is the dumber one here? Trump for engaging in uncontrolled stream-of-consciousness and blathering on whatever random thought comes to mind, or anyone who actually believed that Trump was making a serious proposal of injecting people with Lysol?
The people doing this to themselves are trusting the (self proclaimed) very stable genius. He is also a (self proclaimed) expert in virtually everything. Idiots are going to trust him, as a very stable genius he should know this and curb his tongue in public.
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Well, it was a serious proposal, but it was directed at Dr. Brix, not at the audience. And I suspect he intended it to be taken metaphorically. That he didn't consider his audience is...typically ... and here I'm not sure whether the correct word is "stupid" or "arrogant".
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:4, Interesting)
A flu vaccine is not a disinfectant. Perhaps you meant antibiotics. But that wasn't what he meant, because he was freewheeling off a paper that talked about things like Clorox on metal surfaces. But though he did mean something like Clorox, I'm rather sure he didn't actually mean Clorox, and probably didn't know quite what the options were...so was suggesting to Dr. Brix that she look into it. (I bet her facial expression was choice.)
And, yes, he also blathered about UV treatment inside the body. I've no idea what he was thinking of, but it was probably stupidly dangerous.
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And this is consistent with the statement just being sarcasm, how?
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:4, Funny)
Psst, it seems you didn't get the memo, the new line of defense is that he was being sarcastic, so what he said was stupid, but on purpose. You're now supposed to deny your old messages interpreting his vocal mush as smart. Pro-tip, you can say you were being sarcastic.
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:4, Interesting)
If you're being sarcastic while giving a briefing to professionals about a current ongoing crisis I sincerely hope your boss would ask you to clean out your desk the moment you leave the podium.
It's a shame the USA is too corrupt (independence of senators during a legal proceeding? LOL) to fire a politician.
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, the people who dislike Trump overreact in idiotic ways and try to misconstrue everything he says, but he's not doing himself any favors. He could simply keep his fool mouth closed and save himself a lot of trouble and grief, but then again if he were capable of that he wouldn't be Trump. The Democrats could have had an easy time with the reelection if half of their candidates weren't trying to bend over backwards to appease the loudest, wokest, jackasses on Twitter, but most of them found various ways to make themselves unappealing and so they're stuck with Biden who's pretty clearly on the way out mentally. By November, Trump really will look like stable genius next to Joe. What a shit show.
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The reality is that for better or worse Trump doesn't have a filter, so you get to hear whatever happens to be on his mind.
Thank God the WH Briefing Room is devoid of squirrels.
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Insightful)
How do you make your claim (that DT is serious and trying) consistent with the White House's assertion that Trump was just being sarcastic?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politi... [nbcnews.com]
That's a problem with knee-jerk defenses of those that constantly need it- if the defenses are all incongruent with each other, then they all look like lies.
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Give me a break.
Sure, you can try to read anything at all into his incoherent ramblings, just like people try to interpret tea leaves or Nostradamus' tomes against random events.
Given that he didn't say anything near what someone who has actually heard about such resarch would say, the far more likely explanation is that it was the random babbling of a senile ignoramus. That's reinforced by the facts that A: he subsequently claimed it was a joke, and B: they have now quickly moved to shut him up (at least t
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Trump generally always speaks in incoherent ramblings, but that doesn't mean that one can't understand what is behind them. It's not random speculation what he meant, to the contrary he was quite clear.
Trump is indeed an ignoramus, and a senile one to some extent, but that's not evidence he didn't mean what he was saying, or that anyone who heard it got it wrong. Furthermore, if senility is the accepted explanation, there's a Constitutional remedy for that, so why aren't we seeing it?
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Trump is trying.....to get re-elected. He is trying to look "smart" to his acolytes with his off the cuff remarks with no pre-thought involved. People with half a brain know not to drink home cleaning products or fish tank cleaner. Unfortunately Trump should know that most of his followers don't have that much brain.
Re: It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Interesting)
Why?
Trump is the poster child of Kruger Dunning. He really thinks he has special ability and is a stable genius. He so badly wants to be the hero in this disaster movie and he thinks that his "instinct" is superior. He knows so little he fails to recognize his own incompetence.
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Look up the psychological pathology known as narcissism. Not the common use of the term, but the clearly defined clinical meaning. The gold standard reference for such terms in psychology is the DSM (currently at DSM-5). You will find a list of characteristics each and every one of which Trump has in spades. He is the quintessential example.
Practice Essentials
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a cluster B personality disorder defined as comprising a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), a constant need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.
Signs and symptoms
In the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5), [1] NPD is defined as comprising a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), a constant need for admiration, and a lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by the presence of at least 5 of the following 9 criteria:
A grandiose sense of self-importance
A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
A belief that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people or institutions
A need for excessive admiration
A sense of entitlement
Interpersonally exploitive behavior
A lack of empathy
Envy of others or a belief that others are envious of him or her
A demonstration of arrogant and haughty behaviors or attitudes
Bullshit, Trump is filling time (Score:5, Insightful)
This is solely to keep himself in everybody's minds. Kind of like when Microsoft released Windows ME when they knew it was a steaming pile.
Trump has to keep these press conferences about him because they're not there to provide useful information, they're there to keep us thinking about Trump. Because in TV and advertising that is how you move product.
If he was still just selling crappy steaks and fake get rich quick schemes I could live with that. Now his short sighted, selfish behavior is killing people.
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Giving the president the benefit of the doubt that he is only trying to help with such suggestions, the proper forum for brainstorming or thinking out loud on health matters is behind closed doors, where the idea can be evaluated by other scientists and subjected to peer review.
*NOT* on a national live television feed.
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Read the Bible. God is punishing the US for voting into presidency an immoral rapist.
I can't say I agree with you. This seems to be mostly self punishment. I guess it's a valid, if not reasonable, viewpoint and it certainly matches with the Trump supporters claimed Christian views. If you post anonymously you're going to find it much harder to get people to read and respond.
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Read the Bible. God is punishing the US for voting into presidency an immoral rapist.
So is Biden a moral rapist [apnews.com]?
Biden, like Trump, has been accused of assaulting women, and like Biden, Trump's never been found guilty in court of that offense.
We have countless videos of Biden fondling, squeezing, and sniffing various women of various ages inappropriately, we have much less "evidence" of poor behavior by Trump - that's not to say I prefer one candidate over the other, but that is where we are.
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Besides, if you are a "true" Christian - you should not be afraid of death. You should help your fellow man by working without PPE in a Covid-19 ward and refuse care after you get sick.
Your sanctimonious and ignorant comment is just wrong. A "true" christian has no reason to ignore science or refuse medical care, and intentionally infecting yourself with a deadly disease would, obviously, limit your ability to help others.
You may want to go beyond the cartoon-like understanding of Christianity you obviously feel justifies your perceived moral superiority over others.
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Remember, it was the previous administration that built and used the "cages" [washingtonexaminer.com] to hold children at the border. As I recall they wanted to scare parents from sending their unaccompanied minors into America.
Homan, who ran Obama’s successful deportation operation, ripped Democrats who question Trump immigration officials on the Obama-era idea.
[...]
He said that the Border Patrol facilities where all illegals are initially kept “were not built to take care of children.” In fact, the recent surge of younger illegal immigrants is a new trend.
He said that there are no cages but chain-link fencing that separates kids from adults, done for safety. “It’s chain link dividers that keeps children separate from unrelated adults. It’s about protecting children,” he said.
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None of the above, it's from Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. [whitehouse.gov]
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or jus
Re:It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:5, Funny)
CNN Moves Headquarters Underground After Trump Says The Sun Is Good.
Given Trump's track record, that might actually make sense.
Reason tries to debunk the NY times (Score:2)
I would call more than twice as many calls statistically significant.
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the difference between 13/320M and 33/320M may be mathematically significant, but realize before the president even mentioned disinfectants, thirteen people ingested disinfectants and called the poison line. THAT is the amazing number.
Also, while it's a fun parlor game to assign blame for other's stupidity, in order to think the President was telling sick people to ingest disinfectants, those same people would have to turn off their TV the moment he said it, in order to avoid his "I'm not a medical expert"
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I know that Fox News is no longer the official Trump new outlet, OAN has taken over, but then they continue to prioritize the conservative doctrine over objective truth, so if they are reporting it must not only be true but important enough to rep
Re:It's cliche by now, but fake news... (Score:4, Insightful)
I do wonder what it would be like to have such blind, unshakable faith. I suppose it's kind of comforting because you know that no matter what you can keep your faith in Trump because nothing will ever be able to change that.
On the other hand the price is being a fool, and a liar.
Assume he meant "inject" when he said "study", and
He said "inject".
Oh also, now he claims that we all read what he said correctly but didn't realise he was being sarcastic. Time to change your doctrine, kenh, your god has spoken.
What were you saying, Trump apologists ? (Score:3, Insightful)
There are a lot of dumb fucks out there. The last thing we need is the dumb fuck in the white house giving these people bad ideas.
On the other hand, isn't the fundamental principle of the conservative philosophy social darwinism ? You know, personal responsability and all that ?
Or does it apply only when it's liberals that are getting hurt ?
Seriously people. How much longer are you going to try to polish that turd ?
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What does it matter if dumb fucks think T-D-Boyl or Mr. Clean is medicine? Let them die, they're a danger to the rest of us alive.
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If you want to drink bleach go for it. It's only the left wing media that is pushing people to do this. And if a bunch of leftists want to follow their fake news into a early grave that's their choice. The rest of us are too busy laughing at how they can't differentiate between a question and a statement. Pro tip: if you hear the phrase "is there" that means a question is being asked.
It's the same thing that happened with that those two idiots who drank fish tank cleaner. Turns out they were big time democ
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Not one of the cases was for ingesting cleaners, despite what the headlines are claiming.
And no, there was no "spike" anyway, because the 31 cases is right inline with what they've been seeing for the past weeks. Since, you know, we're in the middle of a widespread disease outbreak and people are overusing cleaners on every surface and thus overexposing themselves to harmful fumes...
Something that wasn't happening in 2019.
Re:What were you saying, Trump apologists ? (Score:5, Insightful)
McConnell had his chance to pull the plug on the shambles of a presidency, but he didn't, and now with each passing day, the chances of the Dems not only taking the White House, but the Senate rise as well.
I get it that the GOP has been trying to make lemonade out of lemons, but this has reached such a point of extraordinary stupidity that about all the GOP is going to get is a shit sandwich.
I think there's enough evidence here for considering the 25th amendment, myself. There is something very wrong with Donald Trump.
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I think there's enough evidence here for considering the 25th amendment,
The problem is Nancy Pelosi becomes Vice President. Arguably the biggest arch nemesis of the con artist, she would be able to thwart some of whatever Pence tried to do AND be a tie breaker in the Senate if came to that.
That is not the nightmare scenario Republicans want to have.
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I think there's enough evidence here for considering the 25th amendment,
The problem is Nancy Pelosi becomes Vice President.
There's no way Pence would nominate Pelosi for Vice President. It would definitely be interesting to see who would get nominated, though, since it would have to be someone that the House of Representatives would agree to. If Pence refused to nominate someone acceptable to the House Democrats, then the Republicans are running the risk with Pelosi being next in line.
Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Re:What were you saying, Trump apologists ? (Score:5, Funny)
a non-issue (Score:2, Insightful)
so 30 cases.... in New York city?
That's essentially zero. Dumb asses doing stupid things died from a lot of other equally absurd and utterly ridiculous things in that time. Anyone over the age of thirteen dumb enough to swig bowl cleaner or snarf down a urinal cake thinking it's "medicinal" richly deserves what they get.
Re:a non-issue (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, that's as stupid as, I don't know, the alleged president of the U.S. musing on whether disinfectants should be used internally, or shining people with really, really bright light. Where do people get these dumb ideas?
Are you serious? (Score:5, Insightful)
Anyone over the age of thirteen dumb enough to swig bowl cleaner or snarf down a urinal cake thinking it's "medicinal" richly deserves what they get.
Sounds like you're trying to be "sarcastic" like our president. Meaning your statement is dead serious.
You know, there's some real people out there that could be alive right now if it wasn't for comments from our President. Like those that died from a lethal dose of hydroxychloroquine [axios.com] who took it because President Trump recommended people to "give it a try" [statnews.com]. Or those who may die from drinking disinfectant. And are we as a nation truly going to look at those who died because they listened to the president and just say to ourselves, "They deserve what they get?" That's just heartless.
We're in a crisis right now, and people are in -real need- of leadership. And there are -real good- people, some who are my close friends, who do trust President Trump and are listening to him and believe every word he says. It's a shame, a real damn shame, that he's abusing that trust. In my book, he's as guilty as Michelle Carter [wikipedia.org], who kept telling her boyfriend to commit suicide until he finally did. But good luck convicting this president of manslaughter.
Not sure which is worse ... (Score:5, Interesting)
"Maybe you can. Maybe you can't. I'm not a doctor. I'm, like, a person who has a good you-know-what," Trump said, pointing to his head.
[Note: I said "mused/asked about", not "recommended" -- he absolutely did the former, but many think he said the latter.]
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He didn't forget the word "brain", he was actually referring to having a good comb-over. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/02/trumps-hair-illusion-came-undone-and-we-all-missed-it.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-b [nymag.com]
Well done Onion (Score:2)
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It must be hard working at The Onion right now. They're looking at the stupid stuff that Trump says on a weekly basis and they must be going "there's no point in even trying, we can't top that level of stupidity".
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I remember when the onion was ludicrous.
He'll Still Win in November (Score:2, Funny)
I'm surprised he hasn't kicked three quarters of the WH press corps to the curb.
Hate him all you want, he's going to win in November and the response AGAIN will be bloody hilarious.
It seems mental illness has a liberal bias.
Re:He'll Still Win in November (Score:5, Funny)
I'm surprised he hasn't kicked three quarters of the WH press corps to the curb. Hate him all you want, he's going to win in November and the response AGAIN will be bloody hilarious.
It seems mental illness has a liberal bias.
Please call 911 immediately, it appears you've ingested some disinfectant.
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I'm surprised he hasn't kicked three quarters of the WH press corps to the curb.
Hate him all you want, he's going to win in November and the response AGAIN will be bloody hilarious.
When Trump loses it will be like Hitler losing WWII. Majority who supported him quietly walking away in embarrassment disavowing the whole misadventure and their role in it.
Sacrastic (Score:2)
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Watch the video. Read the transcript. There was no hint of sarcasm. He was serious.
What you are looking at is the result of the Department of Homeland Security redoing the original CDC (and several universities) studies on COVID19 endurance on surfaces, to disinfectant, to UV, etc and the results being reported to Trump.
For some reason, Homeland (or whoever they contracted this to) got results different by ORDERS of magnitude. In fact UNBELIEVABLY different. F.E. their result for virus survival at standard summer UV flux in mid-latitudes and 80% humidity (as in f.e. Washinton DC in summ
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Watch the video. Read the transcript. There was no hint of sarcasm. He was serious.
And in the end it doesn't even matter. Whether he actually meant it or is just unable to articulate clearly makes no difference. That people will do stupid things even if it is the latter says a lot on it's own.
Sooner or later (Score:2)
The Darwin Awards [darwinawards.com] are going to add a "Death by Trump" chapter and it's going to be more sad than funny.
Trump doesn't recognize his power (Score:5, Insightful)
In some ways he is like a character in one of those stories what a normal human develops super powers and doesn't understand how to control them.
Trump still doesn't seem to realize that when he speaks, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE are listening. Not all of those people are deep thinkers, or very bright or mentally stable. This is why traditionally presidents have used great care when speaking because they knew the effect of their words.
Trump seems to just say whatever comes to mind, without realizing the extent of his audience. He doesn't seem to understand that he is not talking to a handfull of friends, or the employees of a small investment firm - he is talking to the world.
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Trump is fully aware of the size of his audience, he even brags about it and complained when the Wall Street Journal didn't mention his great Covid ratings. https://thehill.com/homenews/a... [thehill.com]
He is also aware of his influence, which is why he gives helpful medication tips, like try hydroxychloroquine "What do they have to use? I hope they use it."
Trump realizes that he is talking to the world, and likes doing it. He just doesn't realize that he is much, much dumber than he needs to be to handle the situatio
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Trump still doesn't seem to realize that when he speaks, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE are listening.
He knows this and has even bragged about the high ratings for his briefings.
Not all of those people are deep thinkers, or very bright or mentally stable.
He knows, and is depending on, this.
He doesn't seem to understand that he is ... talking to the world.
But he does know this, and relishes it.
He understands (Score:2)
Lets rethink this... (Score:3, Interesting)
This might come off harsh to some people but lets step back and look at the silver lining of Trumps statements. Some would argue, including myself, if people are not intelligent enough to know the president is full of shit and start drinking bleach, rubbing alcohol and other disinfectants, the world hasn't really lost anything of value when these people die. A mechanism to cull the weak is long overdue, we keep people alive that simply shouldn't have survived this long.
Darwin's Death Toll (Score:2)
Sarcastic? (Score:2)
Sarcastic: Marked by or given to using irony in order to mock or convey contempt.
To what or whom was Trump attempting to mock? It was NOT sarcasm.
He lies to cover lies. Trump is a terrible manager and role model. Trump never owns his mistakes or takes responsibility for anything. Trump will continue to lie and gaslight because his aides, supporters and Fox News never hold him accountable.
For those claiming sarcasm (Score:3)
Definition:
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
So tell us, at what point was the con artist being sarcastic when he said:
Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.
And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting
And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that? Like injection inside or almost a cleaning because, you see, it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number in the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.
Was his giddy rambling in relation to the conversation he supposedly had asking someone else if this could be done now considered sarcasm? Because if so, it was directed at the person he was asking his inane questions, not the press to which he was relating the conversation he supposedly had.
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"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, ..."
Where the sun doesn't shine.
This has been debunked. (Score:2)
I'm so incredibly tired of ALL of our media now days.
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But the NPC's gotta "ORANGE MAN BAD". It's the only reason they still have subscribers.
They're going to be so screwed whenever the next Democrat President comes along.
Correlation is not causation (Score:2)
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I know that it's hard to RTFA, but not ONE of these people drank anything. Every single case was exposure to fumes and skin spills... and the number of cases is directly in line with what we've seen since mid-March.
The fact that you actually believe garbage like this is the best example that TDS is real.
Drink the pudding! (Score:2)
I ingested ethanol every day for the last 4 weeks, to no ill effect.
Deflection (Score:3)
Interesting timing trump chooses to play dumb and create a media circus around this reports release:
https://www.reuters.com/articl... [reuters.com]
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As opposed to the IC and House intelligence reports [foxnews.com] that reported that Putin preferred Clinton, finding her more predicable and "malleable"?
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I agree, if you are seriously considering drinking bleach - I say go for it! Who knows, it may even save you from the evil 5G towers.
There are various "challenges" - eating tide pods, licking toilet seats etc. I hope for a "drink bleach challenge". It would help increase the average IQ.
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Well, if my doctor told me to drink a small amount of bleach, then yeah, maybe, I mean medicine is poison if abused anyway. However, if some guy on TV (or some forum) says to drink bleach, well, no. The warnings are there for a reason.
Re: Unpopular opinion (Score:2)
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Chlorine bleach is commonly used to treat drinking water. Chances are you have already ingested it.
In very, very small, very very diluted amounts. Pretty sure this is not the same as what was being speculated about.
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Most likely you have not. By the time the water arrives at your home, most of the chlorine that was ever used to clean the water has long left. With the possible exception of Georgia, when I was there and turned on the faucet, I felt like I'm in some spa.
Re:Unpopular opinion (Score:5, Interesting)
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Erh... no. That's absolutely NOT what the article says.
It says that drinking water that has been treated with bleach is the lesser evil compared to drinking water contaminated with bacteria. It does absolutely NOT say that it's a good idea to ingest bleach. It's the last line of possibilities to get water that is safe for consumption in case you can neither use bottled water nor boil water.
Re:Unpopular opinion (Score:5, Insightful)
You, and a number of you fellow denizens of Slashdot have been continually spouting crap about this. Even Trump has admitted he suggested injecting disinfectant, saying that it was sarcastic, you are so desperate you keep claiming that he never said this shit and just making up lies. This is another one. We now know that Trump got the idea of swallowing Bleach from a retarded “archbishop” [theguardian.com]. You have almost made me begin to believe that CNN must be telling the truth all the time, with the level that you keep lying about them.
Re:Unpopular opinion (Score:5, Insightful)
Even Trump has admitted he suggested injecting disinfectant, saying that it was sarcastic, you are so desperate you keep claiming that he never said this shit and just making up lies.
This is just a desperate spin [factcheck.org] on what he actually said. Did you actually watch the news conference [whitehouse.gov] where he said it:
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.
ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.
THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.
Watch the video. Read the transcript. He said it plain faced and not as a joke.
Re:Unpopular opinion (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, even better - keep watching the video of the entire thing, and instead of trimming off the transcript where you can make Trump look like he is suggesting people inject themselves with stuff, you can include what he specifically said about that? Here's what immediately followed your cherry-picked piece of spin:
His claim of it being "sarcastic" is almost certainly a lie. But it wasn't a stupid question to begin with (we already apply disinfectants to the sinuses and throat), and despite the reporter's interpretation, Trump immediately shot down the idea he wanted people to inject Lysol.
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Drinking bleach can also save your life (Score:2)
This isn't a stupidity issue. It's an education issue. And if you didn't know that bleach was safe to drink and could save your life in some circumstances, you have no business criticizing others who didn't know that bleach was dangerous to drink and could kill you under different circumstances.
You should only apply Darwin's law to people who do stupid things despite knowing that they're st
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You know, we used to have a solid consensus about Darwin Award nominees here on Slashdot, and it didn't involve blaming the President. Bleach is certainly effective in cleaning out the gene pool, as is fishtank cleaner, apparently.
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This isn't a stupidity issue. It's an education issue. And if you didn't know that bleach was safe to drink and could save your life in some circumstances, you have no business criticizing others who didn't know that bleach was dangerous to drink and could kill you under different circumstances.
You're right. It's not a stupidity issue. It's a manifest stupidity issue.
You should only apply Darwin's law to people who do stupid things despite knowing that they're stupid.
The point of bleach is to disinfect water PRIOR to consumption genius. That you can tolerate ingesting small amounts of poison that does NOTHING for you once consumed is completely irrelevant to the context of Trump's commentary which was explicit about the internal application.
Did you know drinking too much water can kill you? If you didn't know that and kill yourself by drinking too much water, then it was just an unfortunate accident.
What's unfortunate are nonsensical false equivalencies like these. Water is necessary to live. Bleach is poison.
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But if you drink bleach, I think you deserve to die, to rid the human gene pool of a clearly defective genome.
Lack of education isn't genetic. Not knowing that something is toxic isn't genetic. Not distrusting the president isn't genetic.
To condemn people to death because they are misinformed, mislead, and mistaken is kind of sociopathic. There are a lot of reasons why someone might be inn those categories, indoctrination being one of them. You can write people off as "weak-minded", but should try to be understanding. For instance, it's not easy to overcome what you've been taught by your family. That's why
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The modern left is a minority that just happens to have control of the media, a very desperate media that is selling eyeballs to advertisers, and buying those eyeballs with their low iq confirmation bias.