Coronavirus Cases Now Reported In All 50 States 270
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times: The coronavirus has now been identified in all 50 U.S. states, and more than 100 deaths in the country have been linked to the illness. Those known deaths, all from the past three weeks, come as the number of diagnoses has surged into the thousands as the virus has spread and as testing has expanded significantly. On Tuesday evening, West Virginia became the 50th state to report its first case.
As of Tuesday evening, at least 5,587 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, according to a New York Times database, and at least 101 patients with the virus have died. Several hundred new cases are now being identified each day, including about 700 on both Saturday and Sunday and nearly 900 on Monday. The pace of diagnosis is expected to quicken as the virus spreads and testing becomes more widely available. More state and private labs have started running tests for the coronavirus in recent days, increasing the capacity to identify new patients after weeks of delays and test kit shortages. For comparison, a total of 70 cases were reported in the U.S. at the start of the month.
"Since then, new cases have poured in, including more than 200 announced on Monday in New York State alone," the report adds. "More than 2,200 cases have been announced nationwide since Friday morning, and the virus is now spreading in parts of the country where it had not been identified as recently as a week ago."
As of Tuesday evening, at least 5,587 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, according to a New York Times database, and at least 101 patients with the virus have died. Several hundred new cases are now being identified each day, including about 700 on both Saturday and Sunday and nearly 900 on Monday. The pace of diagnosis is expected to quicken as the virus spreads and testing becomes more widely available. More state and private labs have started running tests for the coronavirus in recent days, increasing the capacity to identify new patients after weeks of delays and test kit shortages. For comparison, a total of 70 cases were reported in the U.S. at the start of the month.
"Since then, new cases have poured in, including more than 200 announced on Monday in New York State alone," the report adds. "More than 2,200 cases have been announced nationwide since Friday morning, and the virus is now spreading in parts of the country where it had not been identified as recently as a week ago."
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Everything is progressing as expected then.
Useful advice? (Score:5, Interesting)
One of the odd ironies here is that were taking some extreme measures now because we'll be able to stop it if we all chip in.
But at the moment the actual risk is absurdly low. Averaged over the US there's about 20 infections per 1 million people. Now the real number is at least 10x larger but probably not 100x larger. So it's still absurdly low.
Thus the risk--- right now-- to any one person is very small. And even if you meet or share a doorknob with 1000 people in the next week, and one of them has it, you are not assuredly catching it from that meeting.
So were really doing this lock down thing now to save ourselves from something much worse later. And it's obviously a drastic response in terms of national effort.
Thus there is a tendency to think "drastic" === Immediate danger. And that's exactly the opposite of true. There's more chance of getting killed by a car or a homocide.
So don't panic man but also do the self-quarantine thing if you possibly can. We all need to do this. And most of all explain this, you tech nerd, to the people who are panicing.
Re:Useful advice? (Score:5, Insightful)
In Italy (you know, the current center of disease) there's a 500 per million infection rate. Still absurdly low, no?
We're not talking the bubonic plague here. The reason why this is such a big deal is to keep the infection rate low enough that the medical system can handle the cases, because if life continued as normal, infection rates would reach about 1% (that's 10,000 per million). Still no real reason that life as we know it would cease (like with the aforementioned plague where infection rates were around 50-80% in the areas where it hit), but that would overload our hospitals and then you're guaranteed to deal with a panic on top of the infections.
Re:Useful advice? (Score:5, Informative)
No, in Italy there's a 500 per million rate of confirmed cases, which is not the same thing at all. The number of infections is higher because despite the impression you might get from the press, Italy can't test everyone (and the test doesn't detect every infection anyway). They cases are also concentrated heavily in specific regions, helping to overwhelm the medical system.
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I see you're like me and just got done watching V: for Vendetta again.
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Coronavirus deaths is currently 350/day.
Unlikely, total death are 2503 today, that is about 10/day over the last 20 days, of course with increasing amount of infections the current rate is higher than in the beginning, but 35 sounds not plausible (yet).
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I have the data right in front of me, so: nope
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It's not so much that the virus itself has gotten deadlier, it's just that they've hit the capacity of ICU beds and ventilators to treat critical cases so the death rate for those patients will go up to near 100%. This is also why the death rate in Wuhan was so much worse than the rest of China.
It's not really that either.
The virus is not getting deadlier. More people are dying of it. It's not the same thing.
More people are dying of it, because it's spreading (who knew) and more people are infected.
The main point someone was comparing it to car crashes, so far. Playing down the fact car crashes are fairly constant, but the virus is only getting warmed up. So not a useful comparison.
As long as the number of cases in a region is below a critical mass, things are relatively fine, but once you hit the limit the deaths will escalate rapidly.
Even if you had infinite hospital resources, cases would still rise as as infections rise. (obviously not as fast)
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One of the odd ironies here is that were taking some extreme measures now because we'll be able to stop it if we all chip in.
No, you won't.
The cat is out of the bag. The horse has bolted.
Think: All this came from one single person. That's all it takes, one person with this virus can (re)infect the entire world.
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Think: All this came from one single person. That's all it takes, one person with this virus can (re)infect the entire world.
Has that been confirmed? I've read that it's possible that people might not develop immunity, but what is the number of actual confirmed cases of reinfection? How many people have been confirmed as completely recovered and then contracted it again?
The reason people don't develop immunity to the common cold is that the common cold is not one single virus, it's a large family of related viruses. My understanding is that sars-cov-2, the virus that causes covid19, is a single virus. Is there reason to believe t
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I read a while back that this corona virus accumulates about 1 mutation per couple of transmissions, on average. In the future a different strain might spread every year or so, like the flu, in which case we'd never gain permanent full immunity from the new strains. Whether those strains would still have the same
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But if you know the person you need to give that one test to, then you don't need the test to know who it is.
But, in reality it takes hundreds or thousands of tests per million in the general population to find which sick person has the virus, and then you have to trace and test all of the positive test's contacts, and if any more positives, all of their contacts, and so on, in order to "stop" it.
It will never really be stopped as long as there's a wild
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Unless the sucker mutates like the 1918 flu did and increase its mortality rate.
Re:Useful advice? (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem with this crisis is that people no longer seem to have any middle ground in their brain between "threat of extinction" and "fake news". This is something that the US has not faced since WW2 -- a crisis that needs people to pull together and sacrifice, just a little bit, for the good of the whole country. Even in 9/11 what our country asked of most of us is to keep shopping.
Our pulling-together muscles have atrophied. We're like a middle-aged office worker plucked from his cubicle and asked to compete in a high school track meet. In the grand scale of things it's not so much, but it's far more than we're used to doing.
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Everyone will get it, only the degree will vary.
No, just no. This "herd immunity" mentality that is going to have tens of thousands of people dying unnecessarily from an avoidable cause.
It is just plain stupid to let 60% of a country's population catch an avoidable disease simply to gain immunity (and that was by no means sure thing). Assuming that just 0.5-1% of those would die, it means you are going to let 0.3-0.6% of a country die unnecessarily?
For the US population of 330M, that is 1-2 million deaths that could be avoided. This country was willin
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How is China going to hide 32 million bodies that appeared in these 5 weeks?
It makes me wonder how Russia is going to. As of today they still report only 147 confirmed cases and zero deaths.
Not to pick a fight over it, but if you look at China's history, mass deaths are something they have dealt with before.
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The problem is that you can still spread it even if you're in the 30% who show no symptoms. So you go visit your grandmother or touch a shopping cart that an immuno-compromised person will use after you and you pass it on to them. You're fine, but they die. What's more, if too many people get it at once, our health care system will be overloaded and doctors will need to make decisions about who lives and who dies. (Italy is already facing this nightmare.) This won't just be for COVID-19, but also for other
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In the UK, sunlight doesn't contain enough UVB radiation in winter (October to early March) for our skin to be able to make vitamin D.
That's complete bollocks,
over 40% of Americans are Vitamin-D deficient at this time of year
You could try going outdoors.
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Vitamin D is a poison at high doses and can have negative effects before that. Supplementing vitamin D will not stop you from catching Covid-19 or any other disease just as megadoses of vitamin C will not cure cancer.
There's a lot of pseduo-science about vitamins and this isn't an exception, the majority with no specific diseases, eating a healthy diet and being outside regularly will not have vitamin D deficiency.
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Indeed, I forgot to mention this time that high doses are dangerous and ineffective anyway, daily sensible doses like 25Âg (25micrograms) are helpful, overdosing isn't. I posted links to reputable sources and scientific papers for good reason.
And FFS you're wrong, see the links provided, if you're in the northern hemisphere and not already taking vitamin D then there is a high likelyhood that you are vit-d deficient. over 40% of Americans are Vitamin D deficient.
Don't argue with me without sources plea
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Yes! Thank you.
People have no idea what a massive dose of vitamin D you get from being outside on a sunny day on the equator, where we evolved.
Vitamin C can protect a lot against sepsis though, and stuff, so there's people recommending to take both.
High dose D3 needs K2 along side.
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If you'd learn to read you'd see I'm not talking about people living on the equator and I supplied links and a quote covering the fact that in the northern hemisphere there is not enough sunlight to get Vitamin D FFS. There is plenty of good evidence for this - I provided links to that evidence and explained it.
Vitamin C IS a vitamin you're highly unlikely to be deficient in because it's in a lot of foods in good quantities.
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EVIDENCE that people in northern hemispheres suffer from Vitamin-D deficiency because there is not enough sunlight in winter to get enough vitamin D:
Vitamin D and living in northern latitudes--an endemic risk area for vitamin D deficiency. - PubMed - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]
Patient Guide to Vitamin D Deficiency | The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism | Oxford Academic
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/... [oup.com]
Time for more vitamin D - Harvard Health
https://www.health.harvard.edu... [harvard.edu]
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"Everything is progressing as expected then."
Indeed. Millennials call it the 'Boomer Remover'.
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We're in the jungle baby
WEEEREEEE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEE!
Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like squirrel!
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Who benefits from this present consistent fear of immediate death?
Clearly not paranoiacs such as yourself.
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"Who benefits from this present consistent fear of immediate death?"
People running for re-election.
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Look at the conspiracy theory fuckwits trying to score points during an international crisis
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Look at how many multinational corporations were quick to shudder their doors and keep consumers away at the risk of profit loss.
I'm more worried about losing my job than catching coronavirus.
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I know this downmod well.
It should be of concern the ease with which freedom is cavalierly overridden "in an emergency". Ancient Greece, Rome, 1930s Germany, Venezuela, all these and many more were democracies or something close, and they had "emergencies" where they gave up power to a strong leader to deal with it, who never gave it up.
You all love Star Wars. What the hell do you think Padme was talking about when she said this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause? It's an illustrated example o
Re: In other words... (Score:5, Insightful)
And I'm not talking about Trump. Look to those who praised Venezuela as it arrested journalists, outlawed opposition newspapers, and secured the power to pass law by decree.
Look to those who look admirably on authoritarian China as we speak, who disappeared doctors and press in the region, and who implore Trump to do more like them.
These are the traditional "useful idiots" (look it up) who grease the path to enable all the powers the authoritarian needs in a tool kit. The profoundly ignorant of history.
Re: In other words... (Score:5, Insightful)
...Ancient Greece, Rome, 1930s Germany, Venezuela, all these and many more were democracies or something close, and they had "emergencies" where they gave up power to a strong leader to deal with it, who never gave it up...
Well, there is the legendary Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, if you count the Roman Republic in about the 5th century B.C.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Usually democracies have safeguards to prevent this happening - election schedules, term limits, independent judiciary, co-equal branches of government, checks and balances - but if there is an economic shock, or a war, or some other immediate threat then the populist might receive such a strong mandate or act so boldly that they can dismantle all of this.
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I don't know about the emergency in ancient Greece you're referring to, but the "emergencies" in Rome, 1930s Germany, and Venezuela were purposefully caused by the "strong leaders" that took over. They were not natural disasters caused by a pandemic or a novel deadly virus.
That said, it quite within the realm of possibi
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This was true of all countries, to one degree or another, not just Germany. (They were all starving).
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"Richest nation on earth and 50% of them are about to be groveling in the streets because they have zero savings"
They were told to invest in the stock market and the did.
Out of sight, out of mind (Score:4, Informative)
...and the virus is now spreading in parts of the country where it had not been identified as recently as a week ago.
It’s not there if we’re not testing for it. Taps head
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...and the virus is now spreading in parts of the country where it had not been identified as recently as a week ago.
It's not there if we’re not testing for it. Taps head
Well... To be fair, the doctor in West Virginia just got back from vacation.
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It's like playing hide and seek with a three year old. He closes his eyes and goes "I'm not there".
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Once again musk has committed fraud for personal gain buy lying that his factory was deemed a critical business [twitter.com]. Musk is a scum bag.
Well, the Boring Co. flamethrowers may come in handy
Roughly 10x every 8 days (Score:5, Insightful)
https://www.worldometers.info/... [worldometers.info]
6509 cases on 16 March, 541 cases on 8 March, and 68 cases on 28 Feb.
Roughly growing by a factor of 10 every 8 days. This was known and was predicted in late-Feb/early-March from looking at China's numbers.
Yeah, yeah, don't nobody believe China's numbers, and countries are now paying for it. Next week, it will be over 50,000.
Fear of the unknown (Score:5, Interesting)
Thirty of the 109 deaths are associated with the Kirkland, WA senior center. Since we know that the virus preferentially targets older people, those initial reports may have skewed the mortality rate.
If we consider the Kirlkand deaths to be an outlier; ie - not representative of the trend, then 79 deaths in 5587 cases is about 1.4% mortality - about half the rate initially predicted.
Looking at the charts on this site [worldometers.info], infection rates appear to be exponential, as expected. The numbers seem to quadrouple every 6 days, which is right in the middle of earlier estimates of doubling every 4 days (quadrouple every 8 days) or quadrouple every 4 days. This puts the R value at between 2 and 4, meaning that one infected person infects between 2 and 4 others.
Extrapolating the aforementioned charts to cover the US will take around 14 quadrouplings at 6 days each, for a total of 84 days: 75% of the population will get it in the final quadroupling, and 94% will get it in the final two quadrouplings.
This only extrapolates the known cases. If there is a significant number of undiagnosed cases, then fewer quadrouplings will be needed to blanket the US. For example, if 100,000 people have the virus right now then it will take 10 quadrouplings at 6 days each, or 60 days.
I list these numbers not to panic people, but to circumscribe the issue and tack down the worst case scenarios. H.P. Lovecraft pointed out that the biggest fear is fear of the unknown - and now the boundaries and expected outcomes of the virus are no longer unknown. If you need to make plans, this is what you should plan for.
And also, to let hope out of the box: some estimates imply that the fatality rate may be much lower, and there are indications that Chloroquine - a malaria drug with abundant history of safe human use - may be an effective treatment.
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Thirty of the 109 deaths are associated with the Kirkland, WA senior center. Since we know that the virus preferentially targets older people, those initial reports may have skewed the mortality rate.
In other words, as soon as the virus hit Florida in force, the US take over the top spot from Italy.
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Thirty of the 109 deaths are associated with the Kirkland, WA senior center. Since we know that the virus preferentially targets older people, those initial reports may have skewed the mortality rate.
In other words, as soon as the virus hit Florida in force, the US take over the top spot from Italy.
Exactly. Florida (where I live) has the largest proportion (%) of older people of any state in the nation. If we get hit hard, it won't be pretty. Yet, Trump was having a lead over Biden in yesterday's polls. Yep, the guy who was calling this a hoax as recently as March 9 (the tweet is still there.)
And don't tell me I'm bringing politics. This disaster of a sorry excuse of an insufficient government response toward this crisis is political in origin. People will die because of it. https://twitter.com/rea [twitter.com]
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He never called it a hoax. The "hoax" is that he called it a hoax. Even the fact-checkers admit this.
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I've built one, but doesn't match "for a total of 84 days". My static x4 numbers each 6 days zoom way past US total population before that (11 cycles in 66 days, at 100 days I've killed off everybody on Earth even using a 1.4% death rate.) and I can't figure out how to get it to decay. Also, at say 5% and above I'm still seem to be "infecting" the ones that already have it. At 50%, you can't really say that the next cycle will
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Mortality rates look worrisome during the first days because the virus kills quickly if it kills, but it takes a long time to recover properly (and become one of the "cured" cases).
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Mortality rates look worrisome during the first days because the virus kills quickly if it kills
Unless you are in a hospital or even an ICU.
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On present knowledge, it will stop once all smokers and males over 55 are dead.
Until then, it relies on people minimizing their risk or catching it and spreading it, so that people who are exposed are not exposed very much.
The risk of death is much lower if you are exposed to a low amount of virus, because your body can develop an adequate immune response before being overwhelmed - it takes time to develop. The immune system reacting too late does no
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Yeah, yeah, don't nobody believe China's numbers, and countries are now paying for it. Next week, it will be over 50,000.
China's seeing a surge in new cases from other regions of the country. My guess is that their desire to 'push' people to work regardless of health is about to bite them in the ass.
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Not all of them are "new cases," there are more test results. It's not a question of semantics, but rather understanding that there is going to.be a large spike of so called new cases because testing is ramping up. Not necessarily that a bunch of people suddenly caught the virus. I.e. there are many, if not a majority, of people wandering around and not knowing they're making other people sick. I can't help wonder how many caught it in the crowd at the supermarket panic this last weekend
The only way this virus is going to be beat is to test a huge.number of people like South Korea did. Otherwise we become like "bring out your dead" Italy.
It also may not be a bad idea to make friends with that nutty prepper and hunker with him for a few months in his bunker.
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With 20% growth, we should hit 100k cases in a month. 100k is also the number of hospital beds in our country through obviously most of them are already occupied and only a fraction are able to supply oxygen, etc.
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With 20% growth, we should hit 100k cases in a month.
We have been on a consistent growth rate of 32% since March 1. Redo your numbers.
Re:Yeah, not entirely (Score:5, Insightful)
The evidence out of Italy shows that if your hospitals get overwhelmed and no medical care is available, the fatality rate starts to soar past 10 or even 15%. Many of those cases just need a bit of oxygen, or some basic medicine, but without that it’s fatal.
Please remember that is the rate among people with symptoms bad enough to require hospitalization. It is not the general fatality rate. Still, if the medical system gets overwhelmed, there will be a lot of additional deaths, that is correct. And that is the point of all the measures to slow down infection: Keep the ramp-up slower and significantly decrease the peak. That unfortunately means the problem will be with us longer as well, but fundamental humanitarian principles require that we accept that.
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For comparison, a total of 70 cases were reported in the U.S. at the start of the month.
There's a reason it's grown that quickly. Because it's really exponential growth as opposed to what most people think when they say exponential growth which is pretty much nothing more than "Faster than linear". (Which includes N^2 which is definitely not exponential and definitely slower but for some reason people confuse it with exponential.)
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Just look at the beauty of the curve on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Every time it updates it look exactly the same, just with more data points and a different scale.
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Just look at the beauty of the curve on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Every time it updates it look exactly the same, just with more data points and a different scale.
I think that is called Scale Indifference IIRC, I've heard the terms used to describe geological features. I tried to find a wiki or other entry to describe it in more detail but essentially the same feature looks the same at any scale, for example the ripple feature of sand dunes looks the same at 10cm, 1 metre, 10 meters, 100 metres and so on.
There are three curves in the graph you linked to, cases, recoveries and, deaths. Perhaps "scale indifference" is represented in those three curves?
As for the
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Nationally that is an infection rate of 0.00067%
The infection rate in China is declining and peaked at 0.0058%, about 8.5x higher.
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And that's with drastic measures.
Keep in mind, our limited testing likely puts our actual case numbers at around 20x what we see now. And doubling every 2.5 days. It doesn't take that many more doublings to hit single and double-digit percentages of the US.
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We will see whether the rest of the world can match that. While there are a lot of things screwed up about China, getting it to decline at that point is a pretty impressive accomplishment.
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How impatient of you. Give it time, you're only at the beginning, a virus takes time to spread.
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XXX traffic deaths prevented? (Score:4, Interesting)
What if only the vulnerable were quarantined - flatten that curve, inoculate the rest if willing, wait a few weeks and rely on herd immunity.
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Does anyone know of a source of raw data rather than infographics and excerpts?
I'd be very interested in getting time series data, i.e. CSV or similar format with time stamps and some sort of geotagging.
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Whatever "Chinese culture" accelerated or not, the world, outside of 2-3 developed countries - South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Germany - appears woefully unprepared.
In those places that I have first-hand observations about I can pinpoint exactly where the problem is. Weak and underfunded or non-existing comprehensive social and health security systems, heavy pro-business lobbying that resisted introducing restrictive measures to the very end (and now that the crisis they precipitated is at full spee
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Cases are exploding in Germany:
https://www.worldometers.info/... [worldometers.info]
It will soon no longer have the capacity to treat these patients.
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Germany has 24,000 ICU units. And that is only civilian hospitals.
We are far away from being overwhelmed. We have 9700 active cases, and only 2 of them are serious.
However even here the ratio of dead to recovered is awful: 26 dead, 71 recovered.
Re:Chinese Coronavirus (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, we get it. Every time there is any kind of crisis, the socialists come out and blame capitalism and tell us the solution is to implement their ideas for running everyone's lives.
Well guess what, it's the "capitalist" market system which makes all the stuff we'll be using to fight this (and other) epidemics. Without a market economy, you'd be starving in the wilderness somewhere. How do we know? Because that's what's happened the other times people tried your ideas.
And no, this time it won't be different. You'd have to be proposing something different for that to occur.
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Without a market economy, you'd be starving in the wilderness somewhere.
This virus originated from a street market, and there's absolutely nothing more capitalist than that. And there's nothing more libertarian than being able to sell infected bush meat without regulation, unless of course you're actively having sex with children while you do it.
We're lucky that we've still got Ayn Rand's books to comfort us in this time of toilet paper scarcity, although they could print them on softer paper.
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tfw no mod points (-_-)
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No, you don't get it. Without the "socialist" support by the state of science and research, which are the generators for growth, we'd still be under 17th century capitalism and lead a 17th century lifestyle. Most of the progress that lead to better life happened after the WWI and especially after the WWII. Do you know why? Because capitalism was a spectacular failure, a reason for economic suffering, political instability and war, and this failure brought about a significant political and economic change change.
This change, which lead the rapid and significant improvement was the incorporation of all key socialist ideas by the democratic capitalist countries over a period of 30 or so years after 1917.
Ideals like expansion of social security, progressive taxation and other measures to limit inequality and a huge government investment in the promotion of scientific progress brought the most significant improvement in the quality of life ever.
Only a muzzled, controlled and managed capitalism can result in productive application of the economic resources. Laissez-faire bullshit and trickle-down idiocy had the opposite effects.
Of course, you have to study a little history and economics to figure it out, but I know this is hard work and spitting out cliches is a lot easier.
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Well guess what, it's the "capitalist" market system which makes all the stuff we'll be using to fight this (and other) epidemics.
No, capitalism is what your country makes suffer. No hand sanitizer? Ha ha. No masks, because they are mostly made in China. The *price* is more important than having a stockpile and a local production? You do actually know that infusion bags in USA are all coming from a single factory in south america? If that has to close, your fucked.
Without a market economy, you'd be starvi
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Whatever "Chinese culture" accelerated or not, the world, outside of 2-3 developed countries - South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Germany - appears woefully unprepared.
Why is this utter horseshit about Germany still in people's heads?
Germany is not prepared at all and our politicians have been collecting medals in dragging their feet for weeks now.
Official cases reported are 9257 infected and 24 dead. An extrapolation based on real numbers seen everywhere else in the world puts the actual infected into the 19000 to 20000.
No statistics for Germany check out with other countries, not even nearby countries in Europe. Unless you believe that Germany is a total outlier, the of
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I think your critics is to harsh. On every level.
At the moment Germany is just fine, and the health system still has a huge buffer. Why Italy got hit so hard is a miracle, no one really knows it.
Another big question is why has France such a high death rate (in relation to recovered) ... that also implies they have a great amount of undetected cases.
Our current breed of politicians ...
That is not really "current", it started with Kohl and half of his "friends" like Strauss where corrupt. People with no visi
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Also
https://www.worldometers.info/... [worldometers.info]
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An overwhelmed heath care system with no free intensive units and respirators is a Big Deal for EVERYONE.
As the US is about to find out in a very painful way.
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The global economy is in meltdown.
Kind of a big deal
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When was the last time a virus this contagious spread worldwide?
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Worst outbreaks are every where Democrats are in charge. Correlation or Coincidence? Thinking people that aren’t liberal faggots want to know the answer.
Maybe the Democrats started testing faster? Maybe they didn't spend days pretending it wasn't real. I mean, I seriously don't know, but since the main correlation in the USA with known cases is the amount of testing, doesn't this make sense?
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While I appreciate the sentiment, unfortunately that will not work. The death-rate even if untreated is far too low for that.