US Workers Show Little Improvement In 21st Century Skills 88
A new government agency report found that U.S. workers are failing to improve the skills needed to succeed in an increasingly global economy. Bloomberg reports: The National Center for Education Statistics asked 3,300 respondents ages 16-to-65 to read simple passages and solve basic math problems. What the researchers found is that literacy, numeracy and digital problem-solving ability in the U.S. have stagnated over the past few years. Some 19% of the test-takers ranked at the lowest of three levels for literacy and 24% lacked basic digital problem-solving abilities. Meanwhile, a shocking 29% performed at the lowest level for numeracy, the same as findings from the previous study conducted in 2012-2014. Almost one in three couldn't correctly answer "how much gas is in a 24-gallon tank if the gas gauge reads three-quarters full."
There were a few bright spots among the research. Latino adults saw their overall scores improve in both literacy and digital problem solving. Some 35% ranked at the highest of three levels for the latter, up from 24% during the 2012-2014 survey period. In addition, high school graduation rates climbed 2 percentage-points to 14%, while the percentage of people with more than a high school diploma jumped 3 percentage-points to 48%.
There were a few bright spots among the research. Latino adults saw their overall scores improve in both literacy and digital problem solving. Some 35% ranked at the highest of three levels for the latter, up from 24% during the 2012-2014 survey period. In addition, high school graduation rates climbed 2 percentage-points to 14%, while the percentage of people with more than a high school diploma jumped 3 percentage-points to 48%.
gas gauge in us do not show the true size (Score:2)
gas gauge in us do not show the true size there is an hidden buffer and some time you need fill it pasted the click by an bit to really get it to F
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yeah we arent stupid plus we write good too
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Also, it is a simple math question, don't over think it (I can't believe this is a problem with the question, but there are several posts already complaining about real world gas gauges).
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There is a huge bias on how the fuel g
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The correct answer is that there is not enough information
You use the information given, which in a math test would be a true 3/4 fraction, holy cow, it is like adding the words 'fuel gauge' makes it a trick question or something. I can't believe people have become this distrusting of information.
Yes, I get that gauges are biased on purpose and can be inaccurate - BUT THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO A SIMPLE MATH QUESTION.
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Of course it does. The world is not as simple as you think it is.
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You are arguing about metadata, and the assumptions conventionally made about it.
Fly Swatter pointed out that, in all examinations, assumptions are made that all the data is given in the question. That is, that a "fuel tank" is of such a shape that the gauge gives an accurate reading.
In fact, this kind of assumption is one that most of us become used to right from the beginning of Euclidean geometry. Euclid's axioms state that a point has dimension but no magnitude, that a line has no width, etc. We all kno
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When you try to add conspiracy theory (the take was overfilled or the guage isn’t accurate ) to your factor. You are just adding your bias into the factor. That may not help get the best answer.
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I didn't know they did that will FULL. I thought my gauge was miscalibrated. I noticed that it stayed on FULL for a bit and then started dipping. I didn't know that effect was intentional, I thought it was broken.
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... also in large part based on tank designs and the nature of the fuel level sensors (not to mention the reasons above). Modern tanks are no longer a simple rectangular shape in which the fuel level within the tank causes a float to drop at an even pace no matter starting point in the tank. Modern tanks have nooks and bends and shapes that contour the available room in the car's frame/body. The float will typically move at a slower pace at the top of the tank since there is typically more cross-sectional surface area at the top of the tank than there is towards the bottom of the tank, resulting in the float dropping at a faster pace as the volume of fuel in the tank gets lower....
This cannot possibly be part of the explanation. Fuel gauges are not linear readouts from an analog sensor any more (nor for a few decades at least). The vehicle builder knows precisely how the height of the float corresponds to the remaining fuel and can make the simple mapping from sensor reading to remaining fuel with trivial ease.
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Very undefined (Score:5, Funny)
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none of those skills sound like 21st Century Skills.
The 21st century still is understanding why it is "shocking" that skills have not improved in the last 5 years in a nation that has done nothing to improve either education or job training.
From TFS:
Meanwhile, a shocking 29% performed at the lowest level for numeracy, the same as findings from the previous study conducted in 2012-2014.
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Actually, if you read articles and essays from about 1890-1900, you will find educated Americans complaining bitterly about plummeting standards in schools and universities. Such as six-year-olds no longer being taught to memorise their multiplication tables up to (and beyond) 20 x 20. And ten-year-olds no longer being able to read Homer and compose Latin and Greek poetry.
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Good excuse. "I am going to be dead in 80 years, so what is the point in knowing how to tie my shoes". Off you go to the nuthouse with you.
Snowflake mentality (Score:1)
It's never the people themselves who made the decisions not to improve themselves, to stay untrained in these matters. It's some faceless other factor that is holding them back, that must be banned.
Beware of sarcasm.
Although that might have sounded a bit too much biased towards one of the two sides in the US. It's more of a systematic problem though. The fact that there are effectively only two political sides and people seem to b
21st century ? (Score:5, Funny)
" literacy, numeracy and digital problem-solving ability"
Literacy = 18th century skills (Printing press is a 17th century invention)
Numeracy = 19th century skill, when it became important for non-accountants
digital problem solving is a bit vague. It sounds like being able to forward an email to one person rather than all, but I am not sure.
Sounds a lot to me like they picked old skills and ignored new ones, such the ability to detect a piece of satire that is being pushed as 'true' for a political reason.
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I imagine they're using the term in the sense of skills which will be most relevant in the 21st century.
Illiteracy is a major problem, because communication skills are only becoming more important. But most people are frankly terrible at communication. They have poor language skills, are often unaware of their tone (both in the literal sense, and in terms of word choices, the latter of which is related to their poor language skills) and are also unaware of what their body language is saying.
Innumeracy is im
High-earning skills for the 21st Century (Score:5, Funny)
- Getting "likes"
- Twerking
- Victimhood-milking
- Inheriting money
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When the needle hits the E..you put more gas in the tank.
OK [socialnewsdaily.com]
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I fill up when I see cheap gas, and due to it being pay before filling, I like to know how much to put in to get close to full, about $10 to go from 3/4's to F and close to another $10 to actually fill up.
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What fucking car do you own so I know what not to buy.
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A '98 F150. Also live in an area with the most expensive gas in N. America, sometimes hitting CDN$1.70+ a litre, the free market works so well when there is little or no competition, at least the refineries are very profitable here.
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Idiocracy accurately predicted that a masterful command of the English language would not be a prerequisite of, nor preclude one from attaining, the position of commander-in-chief.
or
This movie done said that you can talk like a tard an still be president.
Re: Let's see how Trump does on the test (Score:1)
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Re: Let's see how Trump does on the test (Score:1)
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I can see how you might believe that, but I could not possibly comment.
I blame the.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Republicans for doing everything in their power to dumb-down our collective society by squashing anything akin to critical thinking.
and
Democrats for ass-kissing the teacher unions with regards to pay for performance, and thinking tenure would be a good thing.
In short, everyone says they want better education but no one is willing to put in the hard-dollars, time, and effort to get us there.
I'd be happy to pay taxes that would allow teacher starting salaries at 75K and up. But, I want that teacher to be wel
Re: I blame the.. (Score:2)
This got to +2?
Given that it showed zero understanding of the problems in education.
Probably a bloke that needs to be retested and certified every two years, and have zero chance of advancement or even a pay increase.
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Yes, because REPUBLICANS were the ones pushing Common Core. Wait, no, that was the leftist tards led by Arne Duncan.
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I think your analysis of who is to blame for the dumbing down of the USofA is 180* reversed from the reality of the situation.
And yet, OneNotSoSmartFellow, you apparently can't say what is the reality of the situation.
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"Seriously, WTF does a 2nd grade teacher need tenure?"
I'm actually for tenure -- and I'm not a teacher plus I live in a high-tax school district. The other alternative is twofold...turn teachers into a mercenary force which will drive up salaries and taxes, and make their jobs political bargaining chips. Local politics is a lot more corrupt than national politics. We complain about lobbying of Congressmembers, but at the local level business owners are quite literally handing bags of money to local politici
Highest spending, worst results (Score:3)
I don't disagree that, basically, politicians suck.
In the 1980s the United States was spending more on education than almost any country in the world, and generally getting the worst results of any developed nation. Since then, we keep increasing spending and getting worse results. More and more money, lower and lower test scores. Clearly somebody is lacking in critical thinking skills, and not just the students.
Since more and more money has only seen the problem get worse, more money isn't the easy answ
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while a few blocks away there are schools where hardly any education is taking place.
This may even apply where both schools are of similar size and receive similar funding.
Gas tank (Score:2)
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Well, I was going to write something very similar. They clearly want the salient answer (what is 3/4 of 24) and that is how I imagine most people would interpret the question although I have no data to support this. The question, as stated, is easy enough to calculate in your head: half of 24 is 12, half of that is 6 (which is one quarter); therefore 3 quarters is 6 * 3 = 18. Maybe they don't teach fractions in US schools these days (?) I recently got asked what 75% of 60 was and without hesitation said 45. The person who asked me the question seemed astonished that I answered so quickly and asked me if I'd had the question before. I said, no, but I can read a clock.
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That's it. The answer is 18.
How a particular car's gauge works is entirely irrelevant.
Of course, the whole concept of "relevance" seems to be a
mystery to many people.
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Bull f*ing shit (Score:5, Insightful)
We're the best educated we've ever been and up to our eyeballs in skills. This is just more "Give us H1-Bs!" bullshit. When are we going to stop voting for pro corporate assholes who sell us out to phony crap like this?
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It will only get worse as the 'my phone has the answer' crowd is moving into the workforce. It's not that they don't have the ability, it is that they never honed it through practice.
As an example one of the box stores had 90 percent off the remaining end of season plants, and the discount was not upda
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instead she whipped out her phone and pulled up the calculator to figure out 90 percent off for each item
I completely sympathize with her. I've been writing software for various purposes for 35 years, and I still use the database or calculator to do many of my calculations during development. The reasons are simple: fatigue and pressure. I don't trust myself with all of the responsibilities I have to juggle. When I have to tend to multiple lines of thought simultaneously, I make mistakes (sometimes very simple mistakes with large consequences). I will happily use any tool available to me to reduce or elim
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Business by itself is 19.3%
STEM (Biomed, CIS, Engineering (and tech), Math, Physical Sciences, and Psychology) account for about 25% and
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As someone in the US, we see this garbage every few years. In the 80s, it was that the US worker didn't work like someone from Japan and die at their workplace. In the 1990s, it was that someone from India was a better worker, just because they were cheaper.
Same shit. If American universities suck, then why are so many foreign countries shoveling their herds of people through them?
The real issue is the completely fucked up education system in the US. When I got my degree, I had Venezuelan, Chilean, Germ
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If American universities suck, then why are so many foreign countries shoveling their herds of people through them?
Maybe it's the people then and not the Universities...
More seriously though. Those other countries are often sending their best and brightest. America is sending in anyone who qualifies for a student load. (has a pulse)
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> then why are so many foreign countries shoveling their herds of people through them?
nobody's shoveling anything. the brightest students from abroad want to come to US universities because it's a good way to get noticed by a US company and sponsored for a visa. it makes no sense for a country to want to rid itself of its brightest students with little chance of their returning. and no, remittances are not a reason for this.
also, the academic competition here is significantly lower than in some of those
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"Americans still fight their way into the STEM fields, regardless. Mainly the perception is that we suck so bad that we have to do more than everyone else to not get fired. Europeans especially. If you are from Germany or Switzerland, the "Herr", "Frau", or "Fraulein" title will get you far more respect than someone from the US with a PhD or a CISSP. Even in the US, a H-1B, or a B1 will get you more jobs than degrees or certs."
And therein lies the root of the problem. All ya American's believe that respect
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Not so. Many modern degrees are literally built around avoiding math skills, because math skills are a very specific kind of abstraction skills that many people just don't have, or could have but really don't like and as a result, avoid learning.
In "humanities" category, there's a very large amount of disciplines that are genuinely useful that have no math included. At all. You can get your masters in such fields without needing any math.
It's how you get the stereotypical "airhead with a doctorate in histor
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In "humanities" category, there's a very large amount of disciplines that
are genuinely useful that have no math included. At all.
You can get your masters in such fields without needing any math.
Define "useful" as used here.
I'm not aware of any.
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Normal definition of the word. I'm not playing word games.
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But it takes the software engineer two years to write it, and in that time frame he serves no one. And then when it's "finished" (because no software is ever really finished) there is a bug and it causes issues. Hopefully only killing the software engineers bonus, but if not he will be killing a million people an hour. Yay for software engineering.
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It took a few days for stardock guys to write their start10 tool, which benefited a lot of people and killed no one as far as we know. You're focusing on very strange things.
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Yes. Many of these degree-holding geniuses were even hired by Fortune 500 companies: ...
Exxon: pumping gas
Walmart: greeting and stocking shelves
Apple: "genius" bar
Amazon: picking packages for orders
CVS: ringing up greeting cards and meds
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While I agree with much of the sentiment ("Americans have no skillz!") in fact the U.S. is dropping seriously behind in education compared the rest of the advanced world.
Here is an interesting exercise you can do. Go to List of countries by tertiary education attainment [wikipedia.org] and sort the chart using the age tabs. Start with the first one (Age 24-65) and you will find the U.S. ranks 7th among the nations listed. Not great being #7, but not too bad? Try the oldest category (55-64), the U.S. is 4th. Now go down the
Why bother thinking? (Score:1)
We all walk around with a computer in our pocket that's more powerful than the PCs that most first started with back in the 1990s.
25 years ago if we got stuck on something we didn't know most of us would either know it, ask someone who did or just forget it. Now if we don't know some trivial fact about something, we simply whip the mobile phone out and look it up. How many of us do serious mental maths? I mean proper mental maths like areas and volumes or tally up a 20 item list of groceries in our heads,
This is a red herring (Score:4, Insightful)
What business leaders are really looking for, in terms of 21st century skills, is for Americans to get over the idea of making a good living and instead be willing to work very long hours for a few bucks a day.
Blame the OECD (Score:4, Insightful)
Andreas Schleicher (http://www.oecd.org/education/andreas-schleicher.htm), who has no background or qualifications in education, is responsible for propagating this nonsense about "21st Century Skills." There's very few meaningful definitions of what 21st Century Skills actually are, & when they are described, they look more like 300BC skills. I'm not kidding: The Greeks were waaay ahead of Schleicher.
What the USA & many other countries need is simply higher-quality evidence-informed education in traditional subjects, e.g. reading, writing, & 'rithmetic, the sciences, history, geography, the arts, etc..
I know. It's not headline-grabbing material. It's dull & boring & doesn't sell shiny new gadgets, fancy-named EdTech startups, or "This will revolutionise education!!!" mumbo jumbo. It's just good ol' fashioned classroom teaching by well-trained, experienced & decently-paid teachers under stable, supportive conditions, in well-resourced & well-organised schools.
Did you know that in almost every real-world scenario where EdTech was added to curricula, students' scores went down, not up?
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So.... America sucked at the skills test for 300BC. I think your "smart" bombs are smarter than you, thank god the software was probably written by an H1B programmer.
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three quarters of a tank, duh.
If you have a bucket with three gallons ... (Score:1)
... and another bucket with five gallons . . .
How many buckets do you have, dear Americans?
XD
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Six gallons of gas (Score:3)
So 18 gallons of liquid and 6 gallons of gas.
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We need well paying jobs at all levels (Score:2)
In the US right now, there are only two guaranteed paths to success remaining: medical education or getting into and graduating from an Ivy League school, Everything else is a crapshoot -- there's still opportunity to succeed or at least do all right for yourself, but there's an element of chance. STEM degrees are a smart bet, but even there you have salary compression due to offshoring, work visa programs and automation. The problem is that there are fewer and fewer safe paths to take, and not everyone has