Scientists Create World's First Living Organism With Fully Redesigned DNA 158
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Scientists have created the world's first living organism that has a fully synthetic and radically altered DNA code. In a two-year effort, researchers at the laboratory of molecular biology, at Cambridge University, read and redesigned the DNA of the bacterium Escherichia coli (E coli), before creating cells with a synthetic version of the altered genome. The artificial genome holds 4m base pairs, the units of the genetic code spelled out by the letters G, A, T and C. Printed in full on A4 sheets, it runs to 970 pages, making the genome the largest by far that scientists have ever built. The DNA coiled up inside a cell holds the instructions it needs to function. When the cell needs more protein to grow, for example, it reads the DNA that encodes the right protein. The DNA letters are read in trios called codons, such as TCG and TCA.
The Cambridge team set out to redesign the E coli genome by removing some of its superfluous codons. Working on a computer, the scientists went through the bug's DNA. Whenever they came across TCG, a codon that makes an amino acid called serine, they rewrote it as AGC, which does the same job. They replaced two more codons in a similar way. More than 18,000 edits later, the scientists had removed every occurrence of the three codons from the bug's genome. The redesigned genetic code was then chemically synthesized and, piece by piece, added to E coli where it replaced the organism's natural genome. The result, reported in Nature, is a microbe with a completely synthetic and radically altered DNA code. Known as Syn61, the bug is a little longer than normal, and grows more slowly, but survives nonetheless.
The Cambridge team set out to redesign the E coli genome by removing some of its superfluous codons. Working on a computer, the scientists went through the bug's DNA. Whenever they came across TCG, a codon that makes an amino acid called serine, they rewrote it as AGC, which does the same job. They replaced two more codons in a similar way. More than 18,000 edits later, the scientists had removed every occurrence of the three codons from the bug's genome. The redesigned genetic code was then chemically synthesized and, piece by piece, added to E coli where it replaced the organism's natural genome. The result, reported in Nature, is a microbe with a completely synthetic and radically altered DNA code. Known as Syn61, the bug is a little longer than normal, and grows more slowly, but survives nonetheless.
Ok then (Score:1)
Sounds pretty fucked up
This is great news! (Score:2, Funny)
This is fantastic news! Now we can have E.coli tainted lettuce that has been genetically engineered to take up less paper when printed out. Think of all the trees that will save! More wood for PG&E power poles! What will those kooky scientists come up with next?
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-beav
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Ever burn your skin with a soldering iron? I know I smell like bacon...
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The Polynesians called human meat 'long pig', but they didn't have monkeys to compare it with. Jivaro in the Amazon apparently call it 'big monkey'.
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Smells like burnt hair which doesn't smell anything like bacon...
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This is fantastic news! Now we can have E.coli tainted lettuce that has been genetically engineered to take up less paper when printed out. Think of all the trees that will save! More wood for PG&E power poles! What will those kooky scientists come up with next?
A process to make you understandable?
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I think the op was making a joke regarding: 1. The sillines of measuring a genome in a4 sheets 2. The silliness of the editing (not pointless, but kinda silly in itself)
In an absurd way, trying to find a benefit in having such an organism. I thought it funny, but maybe thats just me
I laughed, but it was overly cast word salad to me.
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I am a bit worried what happens when this escapes from the lab and and breeds with natural E.Coli and creates a superbug that would not occur in nature that then kills us all. Nice job lads!
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You obviously have not watched Jurassic Park! :)
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There's always that one guy that wants to write in assembly instead of C.
Re:What font size? (Score:5, Insightful)
More importantly, why do the TFA and TFS say "fully redesigned", when it is nothing of the sort - they've replaced some and removed some sequences, but most of it is still the DNA molecule they started with. That is a far cry from "fully redesigned", which would have been figuring out all its "features" and then creating a new DNA molecule from scratch in a "clean room" way that would deliver them.
Soon, maybe, but not quite there yet.
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Yep, not really a full redesign if you take out piece of code that outputs foo and replace with other code that outputs foo.
Re:What font size? (Score:5, Funny)
Skript kiddies. They're still looking for the original coder's comments so they can find-replace them with shoutouts to their friends.
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It's also a pretty far cry from fully synthetic in the sense people would think. We didn't invent new counterparts to pieces needed to make life happen from the bottom up here, we just isolated the natural parts of existing life, make copies the hard way and then stitched them back together. I don't see using the same chemicals as a problem, the problem is not knowing how to invent with them in a clean room to build our own cell and cellular machinery. Until we do we don't have a solid foundation for the de
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Changing the genetic code of a virus would make it a non-virus.
This works in a bacterium because you can change both the code and the interpreter at the same time.
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Ummm... no, it would make it a different virus or an unnatural variant. Changing the code of a virus so it infects a cell with different DNA is how much of this stuff actually gets done.
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Creating an artificial Ebola would be a great first step toward a vaccine. The problem is making it still able to reproduce enough to generate a signature without reproducing enough to destroy a person.
Printed in full on A4 sheets, it runs to 970 pages (Score:2)
Drop that shit. It's embarrassing. Pathetic beaten to death senseless meaningless journalist trash analogy.
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would you prefer if they had printed it on Letter-sized pages, instead?
refactor (Score:5, Funny)
. More than 18,000 edits later, the scientists had removed every occurrence of the three codons from the bug's genome.
Sounds like the most miserable refactor ever. Sometimes it's better to write that shit from scratch.
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In this case the patch exceeds the size of the original.
I hope some safety tests are done (Score:3)
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Is this bug resistant to antibiotics and other treatments?
No, it's not.
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Well how do you know? Did they specially test all known antibiotics? I seriously doubt so. All changes in DNA can have unforeseen consequences not known at the time.
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Why would you test "all known antibiotics"? There are a lot of antibiotics that normally don't kill e. coli, some antibiotics only work on gram positive bacteria, others only on gram negative, etc. Unless your purpose is to deliberately waste the researchers time and money.
Ah, you're opposed to genetic research of all kinds, aren't you?
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Why would you test "all known antibiotics"? There are a lot of antibiotics that normally don't kill e. coli, some antibiotics only work on gram positive bacteria, others only on gram negative, etc.
Of course I am reffering to all known antibiotics that work on Ecoli.
Ah, you're opposed to genetic research of all kinds, aren't you?
Of course not. I am an avid supporter of science. But any GMO that is able to multiply itself has some dangers associated with it if it gets out of control. Also any GMO that you inject into your body like food for example can possibly be dangerous. This is just something that has to be acknowledged.
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Simply being bacteria and able to replicate doesn't make it harmful to humans in the first place. Everything carries some kind of theoretical danger but one must consider the level of danger in order to give context.
For instance, marijuana has harmful effects and risks but relative to other common and generally considered harmless substances like Aspirin it could never be considered dangerous. Focusing on the gotcha of there being some kind of harm or risk and leaving out any sort of relative comparison of
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Simply being bacteria and able to replicate doesn't make it harmful to humans in the first place. Everything carries some kind of theoretical danger but one must consider the level of danger in order to give context.
You miss the point of the parent. How could you give a (clear) level of danger when you don't clearly know what you are dealing with in the first place per your post? Instead of attempting to give any level of danger, cautiousness should be given, and that's what the parent post is saying. "What if" is something to beware for any danger from the unknown. Cautiousness is not the same as rejection. Your attitude is too optimistic and don't expect for the worse; thus, no preparation for any down side of the si
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"How could you give a (clear) level of danger when you don't clearly know what you are dealing with in the first place per your post?"
You aren't talking about a specific change or how damaging that specific change is here. You are talking about an unknown, so you look to the probability. A change specifically introduced to be safe with controls has a lower probability of being negative of any danger level than one introduced at random. These changes happen at random in nature without any guiding intention o
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It produces all the same proteins--organisms are basically constructed by proteins shaped such that they physically move small molecules around to cause chemical reactions--and antibiotics react to specific proteins by denaturing them or react to specific cellular structural components or other things produced by those proteins. Some bacteria build cell walls (gram+ and gram- are types of cell walls) and are targeted by antibiotics that interfere with the chemical reaction which produces those cell walls,
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Some bacteria build cell walls (gram+ and gram- are types of cell walls) and are targeted by antibiotics that interfere with the chemical reaction which produces those cell walls, for example.
It's basically the same machine with some of the timing tweaked, and sticking a wrench in the same spot will break it all the same.
So how do you then explain Ecoli antibiotic resistence? Obviously it will not break all the same, if the machine has been changed in some way. You may think you are just changing the timing but you are possibly changing other things at well.
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Random transcription errors when copying the bacteria can create a broken genome (proteins don't form anymore, the cell dies), a semi-broken genome (there were multiple genes coding the same protein; a few don't work, it's less-efficient), a genome that codes the same proteins differently (some of those genes are different, but they make the same protein), a genome that codes a similar protein that serves the same function (different molecule, same purpose, possibly more- or less-active at different tempera
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I know how evolution works. But that is exactly my point. It all comes down at the end to arrangement of the DNA. DNA arrangement dictates how the organism survives, including resistance to antibiotics.
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DNA arrangement dictates the components of the machine. This DNA produces the same components, so it's resistant to the same drugs and vulnerable to the same drugs.
Like, this DNA may build a phosphated cell wall slightly more-rapidly or more-slowly than the original, due to using a different base pair set to make the same amino acid. That may happen at a different speed, so the components may be available more-rapidly or more-slowly. Think bricks and mortar being manufactured and trucked in a bit more
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Antibiotics don't depend in any way on the genetic code of the bacterium, so it should make no difference initially to antibiotic resistance. However because its code is incompatible with other bacteria, it can't gain or pass on antibiotic resistance to others. So the antibiotic situation is better than nature. If you wanted to use bacteriophages (viruses which infect bacteria) to control them, an approach which is currently rare but might become common, you'd need a virus engineered for this bacterium, you
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Antibiotics don't depend in any way on the genetic code of the bacterium, so it should make no difference initially to antibiotic resistance. ... or which magic makes a bacterium resistant if it is not its genes?
Obviously they do
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What they've done is swap in different codons that code for the same amino acids.
Except that the resulting bacterium grew slower, and was a little longer, so it was not completely identical.
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It could code for the same amino acid but through a slower process. It's possible if they swapped the other direction it might have grown faster.
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So going by the English/Chinese manual analogy, this one is an IKEA assembly guide.
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A good question would be -- why wouldn't there exist in nature in the first place if the sequence of the DNA doesn't make any differences? There must be a reason for it. If we don't know the reason but attempt to make guesses, then your "the end justifies the mean" is still not acceptable. We still need to be cautious and not whole heatedly accept it. Besides, your analogy is too oversimplified. Mechanical shouldn't be used to explain biological matter.
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The genetic code here would be compatible. It needs Serine, it gets Serine; it may produce Serine a little more-slowly, more-quickly, or more- or less-frequently. The crossbreed won't produce hybrid vigor, either, because the proteins are the same, rather than different outputs which may exhibit different characteristics (e.g. active temperature range, sensitivity to pH) while performing the same function.
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Let's hope god doesn't work for MS or we'll see some funky results somewhere down the line because of undocumented side effects.
Re:I hope some safety tests are done (Score:4, Insightful)
In theory, nothing should have changed, since these were synonymous changes. In practice, though, it has. From TFA:
Known as Syn61, the bug is a little longer than normal, and grows more slowly, but survives nonetheless.
In other words, simply changing *how* various proteins are encoded has had a measurable phenotypic difference. To me, this is the undersold part of the story - illustrating how complex life actually is, and that synonymous changes can actually have visible consequences.
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Resident Evil (Score:2)
Fully redesigned? (Score:5, Informative)
Whenever they came across TCG, a codon that makes an amino acid called serine, they rewrote it as AGC, which does the same job
So they basically performed the equivalent of searching for tabs and replacing with spaces in source code. I'm pretty sure this is a great feat, but I wouldn't call that a "Fully Redesigned" organism.
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It IS a great feat! It's supershit!
Re: Fully redesigned? (Score:4, Funny)
*narrows eyes* can't tell if you're a tab-lover or a TCG-lover...
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>some of this fucked up code went to space
anything to get rid of it, I suppose.
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That's why the new bugs are bit longer, because the tabs are a bit longer than the spaces.
It all makes sense now.
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Well at least it is on the path to fully genetically redesigned algae as super customisable foods. Although with the wide diversity of algae it will be more cut and paste from one type to another. To create the, nutrition type, the right trace element balance, virtual elimination of allergy inducing molecule, and every imaginable taste and texture.
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So they basically performed the equivalent of searching for tabs and replacing with spaces in source code. I'm pretty sure this is a great feat, but I wouldn't call that a "Fully Redesigned" organism.
I'm really impressed by the work, but that's because I've got a biology degree, not autism.
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Whenever they came across TCG, a codon that makes an amino acid called serine, they rewrote it as AGC, which does the same job
So they basically performed the equivalent of searching for tabs and replacing with spaces in source code. I'm pretty sure this is a great feat, but I wouldn't call that a "Fully Redesigned" organism.
It explains why they could get a bacterium to work, but not a Python ...
Ba-dum ching!
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I think you mean *like replacing tabs with spaces*.
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"Are you trying to suggest that E-coli wouldn't look good on a catwalk?"
Apparently not [klfy.com].
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Sheldon J. Plankton is his type.
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How goddamn long until I can grow my own supermodel?
That's old tech, developed in the 80s. [imdb.com]
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And me, put me down when they do.
Violates EULA (Score:2)
God will charge royalties.
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In those circles it's called a tithe.
Epigenetics (Score:2)
So if they created the DNA (presumably actually RNA) strand, protein by protein, then did they add any epigenetic molecules to it? If not, that might explain why it's bigger and reproduces slower.
I'd be somewhat worried about a more-efficient version of E. Coli infecting people's microbiota, as that could lead to worse problems with eutrophy.
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Until I read this, it had not occurred to me to wonder whether epigenetics happens in bacteria, or just in eukaryotes.Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] to the rescue:
"While epigenetics is of fundamental importance in eukaryotes, especially metazoans, it plays a different role in bacteria. Most importantly, eukaryotes use epigenetic mechanisms primarily to regulate gene expression which bacteria rarely do. However, bacteria make widespread use of postreplicative DNA methylation for the epigenetic control of DNA-protein interactions
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most e. coli strains are harmless. you have them in your intestines if you're healthy.
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false anon, most strains are completely harmless and a couple in the gut are beneficial, for example producing vitamin K
The very few toxic strains would be like O157:H7 or O104:H4
Process (Score:2, Insightful)
Alternative coding is actually older and better (Score:1)
Serine is one of the simplest amino acids in chemical terms, therefore is argued to have entered biology early in the formation of the (nucleic acid amino acid) relationship which is so fundamental, and so sophisticated, today. The alternative codon AGC which they picked is argued to be the original dominant encoding for biophysical reasons: codons ending in C are energetically less expensive to separate from the nucleic acid stack for reading or copying https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/quarterly-r
Zombies (Score:1)
Why e. coli??? (Score:2)
I mean, why not some other bacteria that doesn't already cause worldwide illness?
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Most of the 700+ strains of e. coli are harmless. you have them in your intestines.
they're common and very well studied, and perfect for these kinds of experiments.
1000 generations later.. (Score:2)
Also,
4 million base pairs
Wow, I thought some programming languages had bloated runtime libraries. If you're going to redesign it, write it in assembly language or something, and learn to use loops, kthxbye.
Yippy? (Score:2)
What criteria is used to pick one bacteria (Score:1)
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