Not Exercising Worse For Your Health Than Smoking, Diabetes and Heart Disease, Study Reveals (cnn.com) 213
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: We've all heard exercise helps you live longer. But a new study [published in the journal JAMA Network Open] goes one step further, finding that a sedentary lifestyle is worse for your health than smoking, diabetes and heart disease. Researchers retrospectively studied 122,007 patients who underwent exercise treadmill testing at Cleveland Clinic between January 1, 1991 and December 31, 2014 to measure all-cause mortality relating to the benefits of exercise and fitness. Those with the lowest exercise rate accounted for 12% of the participants. Dr. Wael Jaber, a cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic and senior author of the study, said the other big revelation from the research is that fitness leads to longer life, with no limit to the benefit of aerobic exercise. Researchers have always been concerned that "ultra" exercisers might be at a higher risk of death, but the study found that not to be the case. "There is no level of exercise or fitness that exposes you to risk," he said. "We can see from the study that the ultra-fit still have lower mortality."
Worked for me (Score:5, Interesting)
I had high blood pressure, borderline blood sugar levels, anxiety, and a big belly.
I started an evening exercise routine, lost 30 lbs. Blood pressure is perfect, blood sugar normal, anxiety gone, and my pants fit again.
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What was your exercise program like ? I understood the # of minutes you need to exercise per week to reap cardiovascular benefits, for instance, was pretty large.
Re:Worked for me (Score:5, Informative)
What was your exercise program like ?
Super simple.
I walk-jog about 30-45 minutes at least 3-4 days a week.
I do very light weight training with dumbells 3-4 days a week.
Nothing more. I also significantly reduced my calorie intake by cutting junkfood mostly.
Re:Worked for me (Score:4, Interesting)
I also significantly reduced my calorie intake by cutting junkfood mostly.
Not that it's not great that you exercise but the real answer to you feeling better is what you did here. Weight loss (which mostly comes from calorie restriction and not exercise, however exercise is great for many other things) is THE major indicator for improving health vitals in all studies.
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IMO and IMEXP (in my experience), exercising almost automatically makes people eat better. I guess these two mindsets often go together because they form a lifestyle change.
Re:Worked for me (Score:5, Insightful)
Weight loss (which mostly comes from calorie restriction and not exercise, however exercise is great for many other things)
I hear this a lot, and it's false. People look for easy solutions and excuses, and it's a heck of a lot easier to do a diet than change your lifestyle, and this is an excuse for doing just that. But it's not true.
Calorific deficit is what causes weight loss.
If you do it through diet, chances are you lose both fat and muscle, and the deficit cannot be all that large or you'll get other deficiency problems. And at any rate, you cannot eat less than zero.
If you do it through exercise, you'll only lose fat, not muscle, and the deficit can be as high as you push it.
The reason I can state with certainty that you can lose weight (and more importantly, fat) through exercise and not calorie restriction is that I did it. It was simple maths: I burned around 1500 kcal a day if doing nothing, and no safe diet would be under 1000 kcal a day (and even that's pushing it). So that would be a 500 kcal deficit per day. But if I started exercising, burning 3000 kcal a day, without changing my calorie intake, that would be a 1500 kcal deficit per day.
The path was clear, and it worked beautifully.
The main problem was all the times people asked what diet I was on, and how they wouldn't believe me when I told them "none", because of the old wives' tale that weight loss starts in the kitchen and is 80% diet. It's a bloody lie that people use as an excuse for not getting off the couch.
Now I am lean and no longer lose weight, but I continue exercising and simply eat more to keep my weight.
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A pack of crackers I just checked has 480 kcal per 100 gram. 100 grams of crackers is nothing, they can be eaten within 5 minutes in front of TV without even noticing. Good luck burning it in 5 minutes.
Burning 3000 kcal per day is relatively difficult. It takes time and effort. Eating 3000 kcal is very easy. It is "rewarding", eating makes us feel good due to evolutionary reasons. It is not even expensive. Exercises provide significant benefits but to claim that they make diet unnecessary is obviously dumb.
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What does this mean? Why couldn't you just eat less than 1000 kcal/day?
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Re:Worked for me (Score:4)
cardio doesn't directly help you lose weight by burning calories. Mathematically the 600 calories you burn in a workout doesn't add up to the weight you lose each week. However, it does increase your metabolism so that your basic metabolic rate increases, thereby burning more calories when your not working out also. Similarly by increasing your muscle mass also helps increase your BMR.
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Wha?? As an endurance cyclist, what exactly is allowing me to ride 2-6hrs other than calories? Of course you burn calories through cardio. Otherwise every endurance athlete on the planet would be the most obese people there are due to the amount we eat.
Further, I believe the opposite of what you say is true - as you become more fit, your BMR actually decreases, because your body becomes more efficient. (At the same time, you also gain the ability to burn more calories through exercise/cardio because you can
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I eat quite a bit more not riding, plus I eat while riding as well, typically a bar an hour.
It's fairly common to see riders who stop riding put on a ton of weight because they're eating portions similar to what they ate while training/racing, and it's just too many calories. I took 3yrs off the bike recently as well, and while my race weight is in the 155-160lb range, I got up to 170lbs pretty quick until I reduced my meal portions, then dropped to 165lbs and stayed there. When I started back up over a yea
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Face it, our biology did not develop over tens of thousands of years for sitting around most of the time. Storing excess energy in the form of triglyceride now and then is part of that surviving strategy. Keeping energy stored that way app
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Face it, our biology did not develop over tens of thousands of years for sitting around most of the time.
You'd think this would be something they could fix with genetic engineering by looking at feline DNA. Cats are lazy as fuck and seem no worse for it.
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But that may not remove the need for at least some exercise while also involve changing our diet as well. Higher carbohydrate intake for example has also been linked to diabetes mellitus in cats. This of course usually doesn't happen in their natural environment, where they mostly are carnivorous. For this they seem to have evolved one of the most efficient digestive system. But we humans put extra carbs in their food to increase caloric value at a low cost. At least that's what I've noticed the la
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is THE major indicator for improving health vitals in all studies.
You know the problems with claims like this, you make an absolute declaration without understanding any of the variables involved. There is no "THE major". There is only a balance and finding out what it is that people are missing.
You can be a super healthy low calorie eater, and if all you do is waste away watching Netflix you will have health problems.
You can be a sporty person cycling to work on a daily basis, and if all you eat is cheeseburgers for every meal you will have health problems.
Re:Worked for me (Score:5, Informative)
I only went from 30 BMI to a 28 BMI, which doesn't sound like much and still puts me as obese
No, 30+ is obese. 25-30 is "merely" overweight.
I'd still recommend that you start moving more and get more fit and lean. Glad you're on the right track with food, but that's not the whole equation, as I'm sure you know.
Re:Worked for me (Score:4)
drinking 6, 16.9oz(500ml), bottles of water (even flavored with mio) every day really helps flush the extra salts out of your body.
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My own formula: two days of strenuous hiking every week.
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Super simple.
I walk-jog about 30-45 minutes at least 3-4 days a week.
I do very light weight training with dumbells 3-4 days a week.
Nothing more. I also significantly reduced my calorie intake by cutting junkfood mostly.
And the result was because of the exercise, not the significant reduction in calorie intake, right?
(facepalm)
Re:Worked for me (Score:5, Interesting)
If you want to look like Mr. Universe or something like that, obviously you'll need to do a substantial daily workout, but basic health benefits don't require all that much. Just because you don't look like a gym rat doesn't mean that you're completely unhealthy. The minimum amount of exercise might not let you run a marathon in anything approaching a good time, but it will mean you live longer and will probably be happier as well.
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What was your exercise program like ? I understood the # of minutes you need to exercise per week to reap cardiovascular benefits, for instance, was pretty large.
The average American watches TV for five and a half hours a day. If reducing that to half and using the extra time for aerobic exercise, it's more than enough to stay quite fit.
Since last winter, I now exercise 1-2 hours a day, plus 1-2 hours of walking for the sake of walking. This has transformed me from a blob with plenty of physical problems into a lean healthy person. Compared to the time I used to spend watching TV or play video games, it's not much.
But true, each session has to be long enough to r
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the most benefits happen once you reach 45min per session. I always say when you feel like you hit a wall, keep going, in about 10min you get your 'second wind' and thats where every minute you put into your workout has the most benefit. You're now using slow twitch red muscle fibers that are self oxidizing and burn fat and not glucose for energy. Developing these muscles has a huge effect on your Basic Metabolic Rate
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Walking without elevating your heart rate or breaking a sweat is worthless, even if you walked for hours.
I think it would be impossible to walk for hours without raising your heart rate, especially if you're not very fit. Just normal walking speed will put most people at the lower steady state heart rate level with slightly elevated breathing, and that does help.
When I get back, I hit the weights doing 5 sets of 100 reps each, followed by 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups and 100-pull-ups, which altogether is another 30 minutes
... but does not count as cardio exercise. You're training your anaerobic muscles there, doing interval training, and getting more buff, not more fit.
Like many here, I'm above middle age, but fairly fit for my age, with a BMI of 20 and VO2max of 46.
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not entirely worthless, they did do a study that compared exactly that. It turned out that those that walked (briskly) for longer periods, lost more weight than those who only ran for 30min a day. Even standing all day instead of sitting will have a huge impact on metabolism compared to not standing. But maintaining target heartrate for more than 30+ minutes at a time will have a better impact on your cardiovascular system than merely walking. I've always said distance doesn't mean shit, its time and HR th
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My question would be the same: How much do you really need to see health benefits?
Even just exercising once a week you will get health benefits over not exercising at all. For those people who think "I don't have time to exercise 5 times a week- so I won't exercise at all," you don't have to... I mean ideally, that would be best, but you see health benefits from just doing 30 mins once a week. Ideally you should be exercising more than that- but even a little helps and will make you feel better.
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one other thing people wont realize is that as you get older your protein requirements increase too. But trying to get protein from legumes and grains will also increase your carb count which increases your insulin resistance. Someone who only has a moderate activity level needs 1g of protein for each lb of lean body mass. Even people who are sedentary need half a gram of protein for every lb of lean body mass. Those more active, such as multiple workouts per day, parkour, working as a ups delivery person,
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When trying to get the rest of the family more active, I suggested they do zumba. I offered to do it with them so they would not feel left out. So, on top of a morning cardio session, and an evening cardio session, I also did Zumba a few times per week. According to the fitbit charge HR I had at the time, the 50min workout burned 600+ calories, but since it was to music the time went by pretty quick.
In the mornings I do elliptical for 35min at a setting of 12 with an incline at around 50-60 rpm. It would b
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for most slashdotters that means they could die a virgin after a very looooong sexually frustrated life.
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You must mean their watching porn and jacking off.
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my phrase is 'if you can't wring your shirt out into a bucket, you didnt work hard enough'.
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I am trying to duplicate this. The older you get the harder it gets to get weight off.
The wakeup call was Stage 2 Hypertension. I never had a history of high blood pressure until very recently. The Dr wants me to take meds for it. Screw that I am getting fit again and then let's see.
Intermittent fasting and high-intensity interval training for me. So far so good I'm down about 3 kilos.
It helps to read good-outcome stories like t his.
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Could also be a vitamine B2 issue, depening on certain genetic anomalies. If your weight is down and you still have it, and the meds don't work, try the vitamine.
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Good to choose exercise and weight loss rather than meds. You BP should recover to normal as your weight goes down. Also, watch your salt intake. Keep it less than 2000 mg/day. (A good rule of thumb is to look at the nutrition labels. If the mg of sodium is less than the number of calories in a serving, you'll be below 2000 mg a day.)
Intermittent fasting has shown good benefits. You can fast from dinner one day until dinner the next without too much difficulty and it really improves health.
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The older you get the harder it gets to get weight off.
I have to disagree with that.
The older you get, the more spare time you usually have, which can be put to good use for exercise. And also, the older you get, the less you feel hunger.
There are plenty skinny older people. In fact, being underweight is far more of a problem for the elderly. Part of the explanation is likely that a lot of the fatter ones die young and don't become elderly at all, but from what I can tell, people don't get fat when they retire, they get fat well before then, and many of the
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Older != elderly
It's harder to lose weight in your 30s than in your 20s, harder in your 40s than in your 30s
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as StCreed said, make sure your nutrient intake is good, supplement with vitamins. Also make sure youre drinking 64+ oz of water a day. The more water you drink, the less your body feels like it needs to hold onto.
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and my pants fit again
Don't you replace pants from time to time, and toss away or donate (damaged/fine) old ones when they are no longer good for you?
Weight is not volatile enough for this to be a problem. If you don't have your own data, you can look at mine [angband.pl]. I did rapidly lose 9kg recently, and all it meant was belt no longer being optional with old pants, a single hole tighter.
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Different details, but similar story here. 62, 5'11, lost 50 pounds through diet and every-other-day exercise (doing every day gets tough on the old bones are you age). I feel almost like being 30 again, which is probably somewhat the weight, and somewhat adding muscle. I'm trim and thin now, where I used to pack a beer gut and had borderline high BP. Now I watch the 25 year olds take the elevator to go up 5 floors while I take the steps two at a time.
You feel better in the end, but it takes a while to
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I find cardio in the morning does a great job of setting your activity level and metabolism for the rest of the day. Even on days you feel like shit, if you can get in 30-45min of cardio in the morning, you'll feel better. for those of us with blood sugar issues, cutting out grains (barley, wheat, oats, rice, corn, rye, etc) made a huge impact on insulin resistance.
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I had high blood pressure ( ... ) I also significantly reduced my calorie intake by cutting junkfood mostly
High blood pressure is really hard to lower (especially for older people, which, given your id, is, hum, likely to be the case). Junk food was probably the worse factor here.
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I lost about 100 pounds over three years, by walking and now with running. Apart from the obvious health benefits , I actually find the running a very good stress reliever. Once you're in that zone, particularly with trail runs where you have to be observant of hazards likes roots and rocks, it really just makes whatever is bothering you disappear, at least for an hour.
Why is this on Slashd... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh.
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turns out I was right all along (Score:5, Funny)
I've thought about quitting smoking, but I always figured my lack of exercise would kill me long before the smoking did. Now I have scientific proof that my theory was sound! Thank you, JAMA, for setting my mind at ease!
You are fueling a negative feedback loop (Score:2)
Nicotine creates a negative feedback loop. It suppresses thyroid function, which causes depressions and a general feeling of malaise, along with the expected weight gain.
If you give up nicotine you'll find that life overall become much more enjoyable. Get frequent blood tests, including free T3 and free T4 levels. If not already in the middle of the normal range, get them there. Stop smoking first, they might get there on their own. TSH is next to worthless - personal issue, long back story.
Get a puppy
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I don't get your first comment at all. Smoking lowers appetite. People typically gain a lot of weight when they quit. So, what expected weight gain from smoking is there? It's a mild stimulant, not a depressant
I gave up smoking (Score:2, Funny)
I quit smoking, stopped eating junk food, didn't drink and gave up on promiscuous sex.
Worst 15minutes of my life.
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I get a rather painful 'dry gums ' problem if I smoke a pipe more than once every few weeks. The smoke dries out my mouth and probably excaberates other problems with my gums or teeth.
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What if I don't WANT to have a long life? (Score:4, Interesting)
It's your fault (Score:5, Insightful)
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I was more bored in my 30s than I am now nearing 60. My main issue now is not enough time to do much. Maybe I'll get bored again after I retire, but right now I don't have time to get bored.
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I know a guy who's 84 now and still working. I don't think he ever plans to retire. And in case you think "working" means "greeter at Walmart", he actually does financial analysis and forecasting for large golf courses.
If I live that long, I want to be like him.
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But does he go out twice a week to do 18 holes without a golf cart? No? Then he is like most of today's golfers, a vanishing breed. Easy to forecast that: lose millions a year as the clubhouse falls into ruins then sell at a fantastic loss to a subdivision developer. He's good to go.
Re:What if I don't WANT to have a long life? (Score:5, Interesting)
The point is not to become old.
The point is to be healthy when you have become old.
It is when you have realised that you will never be able to do the things that you want to do that you wish you'd rather be dead.
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The point is not to become old. The point is to be healthy when you have become old. It is when you have realised that you will never be able to do the things that you want to do that you wish you'd rather be dead.
Being in good shape for an 80yo is not the same as being 50yo or 20yo. And not all ailments of age like bad sight or bad hearing have anything to do with exercise. In professional sports you usually retire in your 30s, if I wanted to win an Olympic gold at anything it's probably already too late. We all have to come to terms with aging, I'm not saying you should quit taking care of your body but if you are living super healthy and dull now thinking you'll be living it up later maybe you should invest less i
That's all well and good if you just drop dead (Score:2)
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The problem with an early death is that it's usually from some debilitating chronic disease that makes you miserable for years before you die. It's one thing to get hit by a train at 52. It's another thing to spend 5 years in pain before you die at 52.
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I've already decided that when I go, I want to get shot by a jealous husband after boffing his wife. Quick, painless, and after a good time.
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what if I don't *want* to have a long life?
Just don't run up my insurance premiums with your self-destructive habits, ok? Please just take up proximity flying instead, the cost of scraping you off a cliff face should not be too much.
Re:What if I don't WANT to have a long life? (Score:4, Insightful)
Just don't run up my insurance premiums with your self-destructive habits, ok?
If he dies young, he probably won't. The health insurance payout per person per year grows exponentially with age, and your premium is high chiefly because of those who live long disease-ridden lives and spend years at nursing facilities.
I think every person who retires should be given a Dodge Demon and a case of Scotch, paid for by the health insurance company. It would be cheaper.
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The health insurance payout per person per year grows exponentially with age, and your premium is high chiefly because blah blah blah
I take it you don't have a family.
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I take it you don't have a family.
Sure I do, and I don't want to become a burden on them. So when I am no longer a net benefit to the family, I want to go back to non-existence.
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I hope that you understand that you have to pay insurance for your family, and self-destructive clowns like OP run up the cost of that, never mind your old-age costs, competing with barns full of burned out obese smokers on life support who never deserved to get that old, and only did so by paying with your insurance dollars.
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when I am no longer a net benefit to the family, I want to go back to non-existence.
You know what? You're just saying that to avoid admitting your own selfishness. When it comes to the crunch you will opt for the expensive meds and procedures, anybody else's interest be damned. Seen too many of your ilk.
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It's not a joke, smokers and the obese cost less for insurance due to dying earlier https://www.nytimes.com/2008/0... [nytimes.com] Smokers cost almost $100,000 less to insurance over a (shorter) lifetime
Live it well, not poorly - no matter how long (Score:2)
Seriously ... what if I don't *want* to have a long life?
You still want to be totally healthy while you are living it, you can always take the exit anytime you like if you truly feel that way... you don't have to get too old before you start to suffer the effects of lack of exercise.
But if you are in great shape I don't see how it is possible to be bored and lonely when you are old. There are countless places you could go, countless groups to join, countless experiences to have. As long as you are health
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If you get tired of being alive, just throw yourself off a tall cliff and your problem will be gone. It's not difficult, and it's much more fun than heart disease or stroke.
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because you won't just drop dead from one day to another.
your life conditions will worsen over time before you actually die, making you even more miserable then you already are before reaching the end.
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Seriously ... what if I don't *want* to have a long life?
Can you off yourself by inhaling your tailpipe without becoming a long and drawn out burden on the medical and social security systems?
Okay that was a joke but there's a hint of actual seriousness in there, dying slowly from medical issues would be a shitty way to go.
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Or you can be Stephen Hawking and actually do something with your life instead of whining how much it sucks because you can't do pullups any more or even brush your teeth.
Well yeah... (Score:2, Insightful)
But you know what.
After ten hours at a desk all day I just stopped caring because all the other happy robot people were so insulting by smiling at me and saying why don't you just run?
I sleep. I work. I wait to go to work.
Ain't that hateful.
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Probably good to get a standing desk. Sitting for hours is really bad for your health. Standing while working at your desk is much healthier.
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Running sucks balls. I've never liked running. I can tolerate a little bit of sports in the spring/fall, but summer is too hot and winter is too cold. And running for the sake of running....I'll never understand people who do that. I guess I've never gotten a runner's high from it, so it's all just 100% suckage for me.
What worked for me was spending a lot of money on a personal trainer. 30 minutes of circuit training twice a week, and that's it. I'm paying for my time and my health. The first six months wer
"no leve" that exposes you to risk, lol please (Score:3, Insightful)
"There is no level of exercise or fitness that exposes you to risk,"
Spoken like a true statistician. However, the statement is provably false. Rhabdomyolysis in the Crossfit community is a thing. There are levels of exercise that expose you to risk, however extreme they might be. The fact that putting yourself into a "group" that is statistically healthier does not mean you are risk-free. That statement just strikes me as completely moronic, though I didn't RTFA so maybe he qualified it at some point, I don't know.
This is not an argument against fitness. I absolutely believe in being fit and it's obvious that being fit improves and extends life, in general. But to make a blanket statement like ""There is no level of exercise or fitness that exposes you to risk" is just naïve or lazy.
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The fitter your body, the better it is able to handle strain on your system. That level of fitness is improved by exercise (straining your system), but in degrees. Equally important to improving fitness are adequate rest and recovery along with proper nutrition.
There is of course such a thing as over training which will decrease your fitness. The study didn't measure how much people exercised. It measured how fit they were. The fitter people were, the longer they lived and there did not seem to be a point at which improved fitness didn't improve their chances at a longer life.
The study didn't say that there was no upper limit on how fit a person could be. My guess is that there's a certain level of fitness a person can achieve beyond which it becomes very difficult to become any fitter.
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Anyway, in the most recent Twin Cities marathon, there were 352 male finishers that were between the ages of 50 and 54. The best overall finish in this group was 44th. That was 44th out of nearly 7500. Those 352 didn't include women or the hundreds of finishers that were over the age
correlation is not causation (Score:4, Informative)
This study does not prove what it purports to prove. Namely, that people who are currently sedentary will live longer and be healthier if they change their habits to get more exercise.
In order to show that, you would need to recruit sedentary people, then create an experimental group and a control group, and randomly assign participants to one group or the other. The control group would simply be monitored. The experimental group would receive an intervention that (ideally) caused them to exercise more. All participants would be tracked until death and then you could see whether the intervention was successful.
The flaw in the current study is the assumption that sedentary habits are the CAUSE of high mortality. But it may simply be that some underlying trait (such as diet or a metabolic disorder) is responsible for both the sedentary habit AND the higher mortality. In other words, maybe healthy people are more likely to go exercise in the first place, because they have more energy and feel good.
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You're right in that it does not directly show that sedentary people would live longer if they start exercising but there are plenty of other studies that show that improved fitness comes with exercise. That's pretty well understood. It's about the only way to achieve better fitness unless you're already over-training.
You're also right about the fact that there m
Yes, but what about booze and drugs? (Score:4, Interesting)
a sedentary lifestyle is worse for your health than smoking, diabetes and heart disease.
What I need is a list of options. How to balance the things I like with the things that will prolong my life to a reasonable extent (so I can continue enjoying myself).
While it might be nice to live to a grand old age, for most people their ability to be happy in old age is limited by available cash, friends / relatives who still survive (I.e. a support network) and the physical and mental faculties to enable independent thought and movement.
Another important point, not mentioned, is that of diminishing returns, At what point does the extra time required for exercise, including preparation, travel, showering, laundry, etc. take up more of a person's life than it is likely to extend it by? If someone spends an hour at the gym, 4 days a week (plus another hour for travelling, showering, etc) that is 400 hours a year. That is hours taken not from your *life* but from your quality time: after sleeping, chores, work, commuting, etc. That could easily be 25% of all your discretionary leisure time. So over 40 years of working, that amount of exercise would need to extend your life by an additional 10 years just to make up for the "lost" quality time you spent doing it.
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At what point does the extra time required for exercise, including preparation, travel, showering, laundry, etc. take up more of a person's life than it is likely to extend it by?
You're implying that the benefit of exercise is only to extend life. If your exercise is such a druge and you're only trying to get a few years extra then you're doing it wrong on the most fundamental level.
You should find something that is fun, find something to relax your mind, if you're a social person find something to do with other people. Exercise right and your body releases loads of endorphins. You won't care about how much time you get at the end of the life, you'll be happier living in the now imp
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As the AC wrote, the key is to make exercise your "quality time". Biking, kayaking, hiking, running, surfing, falling trees, and construction are activities that require a high level of exertion. Exercise does not need to be done locked in a gym.
"Exposes you to risk" (Score:2)
There is no level of exercise or fitness that exposes you to risk
Some years ago, not long after I got married, my mother in law observed that I wasn't particularly athletic unlike my wifes' cousin who was a sprinter, hoped for olympic medals etc.
I said that while I would not win prizes for speed, I looked forward to a healthier life. She was very surprised that I really meant it.
Over the following years, I did not have back problems, glandular fever and all the other things my wifes cousin did get. She may have been able to run 200m in far less time than I would take t
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whatever the doctors say.
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Periodic Walking (Score:2)
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Though I don't walk 15 minutes every 2 hours, I do usually get in 1-3 15-30 minute walks around the parking lot every workday. I think that helps.
"inversely associated" (Score:2)
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You smoke therefore you stink.
He doesn't smoke so all he needs to do is wash and he doesn't stink.