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After Century of Removing Appendixes, Docs Find Antibiotics Can Be Enough (arstechnica.com) 77

After more than a century of slicing tiny, inflamed organs from people's guts, doctors have found that surgery may not be necessary after all -- a simple course of antibiotics can be just as effective at treating appendicitis as going under the knife. From a report: The revelation comes from a large, randomized trial out of Finland, published Tuesday, September 25, in JAMA. Despite upending a long-held standard of care, the study's finding is not entirely surprising; it follows several other randomized trials over the years that had carved out evidence that antibiotics alone can treat an acute appendicitis. Those studies, however, left some dangling questions, including if the antibiotics just improved the situation temporarily and if initial drug treatments left patients worse off later if they did need surgery. The new JAMA study, with its full, five-year follow-up, effectively cauterised those remaining issues. Nearly two-thirds of the patients randomly assigned in the study to get antibiotics for an uncomplicated appendicitis didn't end up needing surgery in the follow-up time, the Finnish authors, based at the University of Turku, report. And those drug-treated patients that did end up getting an appendectomy later were not worse off for the delay in surgery. "This long-term follow-up supports the feasibility of antibiotic treatment alone as an alternative to surgery for uncomplicated acute appendicitis," the authors conclude. The finding suggests that many appendicitis patients could be spared the risks of surgical procedures, such as infections.
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After Century of Removing Appendixes, Docs Find Antibiotics Can Be Enough

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  • Not as profitable (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 27, 2018 @11:04AM (#57384292)
    This will never fly in the USA; a surgical procedure will generate much more profit than a simple prescription. Our medical system is based on a for-profit model.
    • Agreed. I had my appendix removed about 6 years ago. After waiting in the ER for over 5 hours in intense pain, morphine, anesthetic, surgery, and 3 days in the hospital the bill was over $40,000 before my insurance kicked in. I was just over the 3 month mark at my new job when I qualified for health insurance, so I was incredibly lucky.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        For me it was the same, but in Germany. I had to pay 10â per day in the hospital.
        Isn't it a cool system? (I was born in a country with a system not so far away from the US one)

        • uh no. The German system copies AMerica's Medicare system, EXCEPT that the German's apply it to ALL citizens.
          Here in America, it is only for the old folks with expensive medicine.
          • by Anonymous Coward
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

            Germany has the world's oldest national social health insurance system,[1] with origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's social legislation, which included the Health Insurance Bill of 1883, Accident Insurance Bill of 1884, and Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889.

    • by commodore64_love ( 1445365 ) on Thursday September 27, 2018 @01:10PM (#57385288) Journal

      I understand your cynicism, but it is misplaced. More-and-more surgeries that used to require multiple days of recovery, are now being replaced by minimally-invasive procedures that only require a single afternoon. The same will be true with appendicitis treatment.

    • This decision is often up to the insurers.

    • Easy solution: The CEO of a company that makes an uncommon antibiotic used to treat appendicitis should just jack their price sky fucking high for no reason whatsoever. Another problem solved by the free market!

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    • That's why there's so much circumcision. Phimosis can be almost always be treated with antibiotics, but they typically cut off the foreskin instead.
  • Until (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Zorro ( 15797 ) on Thursday September 27, 2018 @11:18AM (#57384412)

    Antibiotics no longer work.

    • There used to be colon cleansing therapies before the appendix surgeries were made common. e.g. you have a mostly liquid diet until the condition improves. Today doctors are against those therapies because they claim it can lead to a perforated colon.

      • citation? Surgery has been commonly done for over 100 years, please cite where a colon cleanse cured appendicitis.
        • by mysidia ( 191772 )

          In the 21st century accute appendicitis is seen as a medical emergency to be addressed in 24 hours or less, and if it becomes ruptured there is a very high fatality rate --- even though you might survive, it's possible to easily die -- if the appendix ruptures. A colon cleanse takes time, and by the time substantial symptoms emerge --- it is probably already way too late to start a colon cleanse that takes days and have this be a "safe" treatment.

          Perhaps how "early" the symptoms are detected is also

      • by mysidia ( 191772 )

        Today doctors are against those therapies because they claim it can lead to a perforated colon.

        Is there evidence that those therapies lead to a perforated colon or have higher risks or lower effectiveness, or is it really that those therapies are simpler and can be administered with less doctor involvement?
        Studies like this that surgical removal may be unnecessary in many cases make me wonder, yet it was practiced anyways, why?

        Was it because surgery was seen as a faster, more technologically inno

    • yes, they do. The artricle linked to suggests that they worked in over 200 cases of the study.
      • OP put the beginning of their comment in the subject line. To read his post in full: "Until antibiotics no longer work", obviously referring to the the over-prescription of antibiotics in general and their reduced efficacy as a result.
    • There are also risks with antibiotics these days, depending on the particular antibiotic.

      Destruction of gut flora can be massively debilitating and the medical community hasn't yet fully grasped how to deal with the consequences of such a thing (fecal transpalants are not widely known about or widely practiced).

      • The latest thinking is that the appendix plays a role in maintaining beneficial gut flora, people without it suffer much more colitis, if so then preserving it would be wise whenever possible. The Peritonitis risk comes when it bursts.

        • >The latest thinking is that the appendix plays a role in maintaining beneficial gut flora, people without it suffer much more colitis, if so then preserving it would be wise whenever possible. The Peritonitis risk comes when it bursts.

          Yet more laterer thinking is that gut flora is only beneficial in the context of a fiber rich diet since it's undigestable by humans, and gut flora is largely irrelevant on a carnivorous diet.

          Plant adapted primates have a huge secum to accommodate all the bugs that turn fi

  • by Futurepower(R) ( 558542 ) on Thursday September 27, 2018 @11:19AM (#57384432) Homepage
    The badly named and poorly edited book, Natural Causes: An Epidemic of Wellness, the Certainty of Dying, and Killing Ourselves to Live Longer [amazon.com] lists numerous ways in which medical procedures in the United States are poor.

    On page 8, that book recommends another book, Overdiagnosed: Making People Sick in the Pursuit of Health [amazon.com]. I haven't read that one yet.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      There's only one industry that's even more corrupt and self-serving than the financial industry, and that's health care.

      Never underestimate a human being's willingness to take advantage of others, regardless of profession, ESPECIALLY when money is involved.

      • The parent comment seems correct to me: "There's only one industry that's even more corrupt and self-serving than the financial industry, and that's health care." However, I think the finance industry may be even worse than the health care industry; the finance industry is more hidden.

        Suggested SMALL improvements for finance organizations:

        1) Links should ONLY be to web sites owned by that financial organization. No Google tracking, for example.

        2) CD rates should have very clearly explained early wi
  • by alternative_right ( 4678499 ) on Thursday September 27, 2018 @11:20AM (#57384446) Homepage Journal

    When I first read a similar line in Houellebecq's writing, I was skeptical. Since that time, I have seen that in every profession, humans have invented ways of following procedure instead of doing what is necessary. This rewards the individual humans involved with more money but makes them weak because they spend their time on wastage. This bloat affects all human societies once they reach a certain level of internal division.

  • it's the only offal our alien overlords truly enjoy. :(

  • Was when I found out the appendix had a use. Completely ruined the Joke from Hot Shots: Part Duex about the inventor of the artificial appendix... Damn you science, damn you.
  • Who needs drugs when you have a pocket knife? Just look at this instructional video [youtube.com].
  • Appendix (Score:4, Funny)

    by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) on Thursday September 27, 2018 @11:57AM (#57384684) Journal

    I don't care if they remove appendixes, but I really wish they'd get rid of endnotes. They're just a hassle.

  • by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ) <<mike> <at> <mikesmithfororegon.com>> on Thursday September 27, 2018 @12:07PM (#57384744) Homepage

    Wait....what's this?

    Those studies, however, left some dangling questions...

    Oh...oh dear. Was that a pun?

    ...effectively cauterised those remaining issues.

    Was that ANOTHER surgery pun?

  • "Those studies, however, left some dangling questions ..."

    "The new JAMA study, with its full, five-year follow-up, effectively cauterised ..."

    There may be others but these jumped out for me.

  • FYI, I'm an emergency physician and am comfortable with reading medical studies. There are several issues with this study: 1. They performed open vs laparoscopic appendectomies and the complication rate reflects this standard of care in Finland 2. The failure rate of antibiotics only is 40% in this 5 year period 3. The durability and duration of cure is suspect at this time 4. This is for uncomplicated appendicitis only The benefit to patients: 1. Offering another treatment avenue vs surgery alone
  • but it was in the appendix and nobody read it.

  • by porges ( 58715 ) on Thursday September 27, 2018 @02:00PM (#57385760) Homepage

    My cousin had appendicitis less than a year ago, in NYC, and they gave him the choice of surgery or antibiotics; he chose the antibiotics and all went fine. (Interestingly he says they offered him to be in a study where they'd randomly assign him to one or the other; he declined in favor of avoiding surgery.)

  • Only a few years ago, thousands of surgeons, who were paid vast sums of money to laser or cut out ulcers, who actually weren't caused by stress but just an infection with Helicobacter pylori, curable with a few antibiotic pills and now again, another surgeon's bread an butter operation is hit.

    I wonder what's next.

  • I read a fascinating book, "Seeking the Cure: A History of Medicine in America," by Ira Rutkow, that answered some questions I'd always had about appendectomies.

    If someone asked you to fill in the blank quickly in the sentence "The surgeon performed an _________" you would probably say "appendectomy." Yet it isn't such a terribly common operation today. Why is it the ur-operation, the one always used for purposes of hypothetical illustration? Why appendectomies?

    According to Rutkow, It was a confluence of ev

The unfacts, did we have them, are too imprecisely few to warrant our certitude.

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