Star Trek: Discovery's Season 2 Trailer Teases Spock, Christopher Pike, and Tig Notaro (theverge.com) 164
CBS has released a "Season Two Premiere" for Star Trek Discovery, offering the first look at the upcoming season of the show on CBS All Access. The first season launched late last year and finished up in February after a brief hiatus. The Verge reports of what to expect from the upcoming season, which is expected to premiere sometime in early 2019: [It] appears to begin with Captain Christopher Pike (Anson Mount) coming aboard and taking control of the USS Discovery after a series of mysterious "red bursts" are detected, simultaneously spread out across 30,000 light years. Burnham later claims "Spock is linked to these signals." New series guest star Tig Notaro makes a very Tig Notaro joke, Pike encourages the crew to "have a little fun," Tilly yells about "the power of math" -- a good time, in other words. (After all, the whole thing is set the tune of Lenny Kravitz's "Fly Away," so you know it's real.) Bonus: at the end we meet another, very sniffly alien Discovery crew member, proving Saru and the bridge androids aren't the sole non-humans aboard the ship, as we once feared. At the Discovery panel at San Diego Comic Con's Hall H, a new Star Trek series was announced, called Star Trek: Short Treks. It is "a series of monthly short-form stories that will function like bonus content and air on CBS All Access in conjunction with the larger Star Trek: Discovery series," reports The Verge. "CBS says Short Treks, which will air in installments of about 10 to 15 minutes, is 'an opportunity for deeper storytelling and exploration of key characters and themes that fit into... the expanding Star Trek universe.'"
Did anyone else think it was Chris Pine? (Score:2)
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I'm not really a big Star Trek fan (actually, I hardly watched anything past TNG), but even I knew that his first name was Christopher.
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STD the sexually transmitted disease of star trek. Yeah, I liked the Klingons fun characters, interesting antagonists, ugly cannibals who use coffin armour, not so much. Only watched one episode by mistake, the third one from memory and ugh, fuck that. Why ruin decades of content, with that shite, don't watch it, not interested in it, don't give a fuck what happens to it. Maybe if they bring on Captain Nancy Pants (this as a serious character) to properly match Michael the traitor and war monger, go one way
Are people actually watching this? (Score:2)
In the US, I mean. I realize that, elsewhere, it’s just another show on Netflix - but CBS is the Old People’s Network, and I can’t imagine there’s a lot of demand for streaming NCIS: New Orleans.
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Dude, I just checked, and that is a real show. Holy shit, I had no idea.
Yeah, it seems to be some sort of weird reboot of Star Trek: Enterprise.
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Streaming? I never stream, I download it with Bittorrent.
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If you wanted it to be a great show along the lines of ST:TOS and ST:TNG then you didnt get what you wanted. Its not even close. It is closer to ST:DSN The progressivism portrayed is neither edgy nor relevant to the times. The show isnt making any statements. It is just a generic sci-fi soap opera, and by soap opera I mean it. Every
Oh Look... funny. ha. (Score:5, Insightful)
Looks like they got tired of The Orville eating their lunch and decided to make a half-hearted attempt to copy it by adding sneeze jokes and awkwardness.
Still not biting the hook, CBS.
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For The Pirate Bay it's working excelent.
Region Restricted (Score:5, Interesting)
The youtube video linked is region restricted. A trailer/sneak peek. Restricted. What the actual fuck?
Re: Region Restricted (Score:1)
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Well, you can't spend money to watch the whole show, why waste bandwidth on you watching the trailer?
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Don't tell me, tell that to the marketing specialist at CBS that thought it's a bright idea.
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It is hosted on youtube; they'll gladly stream it to anybody as they do with countless cat videos and such.
Region Restricted TOP TIP (Score:2)
Copy and paste a region-blocked video url to streamable.com and re-host it for instant, unfettered non-geo-blocked access. Fun for all the family!
https://streamable.com/wf3mu [streamable.com]
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Region restricted to whom? Ironically Star Trek Discovery was most region restricted in the USA where people got a sub par CBS feed while the rest of the world watched it in HD on Netflix with surround sound.
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yAWN (Score:3, Interesting)
I was so excited for another star trek. Then I realized the fundamental mistake, the core problem of this (and it was shared by scott bacula's enterprise) THEY DO NOT DO ONE OFF STORIES!
The franchise made its money by having a theme but each story can stand on its own which was what made the after market dvd's etc so worthwhile and what made the re-runs so great.
If you want a story arc, that is what star wars is for, if you want short stories that is supposed to be the domain of star trek.
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Then I realized the fundamental mistake, the core problem of this (and it was shared by scott bacula's enterprise) THEY DO NOT DO ONE OFF STORIES!
Pretty sure the Harcort Fenton Mudd story was a one-off. I found it odd how Mudd used an alien device to kill the crew several dozen times, and all they did was throw him to his ex-girlfriend.
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I disagree, I prefer the story arcs like Babylon 5 had, and Deep Space 9 a little.
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DS9 was a series of one-offs with an overreaching story arc tying them together, much like Dr. Who, where a season has a general overall theme that gets woven into the stories. You can still watch single episodes and get your entertainment out of them without having seen the whole season.
That worked to some degree for the first seasons of Bab5 too, Not so much at the end where whole shows didn't make any sense if you didn't know the story taking you there.
TNG was great in that aspect, because, while the cha
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I was so excited for another star trek. Then I realized the fundamental mistake, the core problem of this (and it was shared by scott bacula's enterprise) THEY DO NOT DO ONE OFF STORIES!
What are you talking about? Enterprise Season 1 & 2 was almost all one-offs. It only started getting reasonable feedback when they started going to longer-form story arcs. It wasn't a perfect season by any means, but it was the strongest season 1 of any Star Trek. We forget how shakily they all started out.
Link to the trailer for the rest of us. (Score:2)
Because why would you want to present to a global audience anyway? [youtube.com]
Forest for the Trees (Score:3, Interesting)
Beyond the absolute abuse of Star Trek lore that was Star Trek: Discovery, the real problem with Star Trek is the lack of respect for the ideals of the series. I'd say it started as soon as Star Trek: DS9 where the Federation was presented as a cult and something that drives towards homogeny. That's something that Star Trek: Discovery actually gets right, but they ignore the actual reason.
To draw a car analogy, people didn't adopt cars because they were forced on people. Cars (and automotive technology in general) greatly improve the overall happiness and well-being of society because it spurs trade and exchange, not only of goods at the global level but really at every step along the way because it provides a vital link in the network of trade. The same for trains and planes.
By the same metric, the Federations policy of non-interference and cooperative self-defense and advancement inherently encourages the adoption of their policies and a desire to work with, associate, and eventually join their organization. The anti-theses of these, in the form of the Klingons and the Romulans, represent competition, war, and strife as a means to achieving their ends as a FOIL to present how those who engage in such activities will actively take what they feel they need if times are difficult; really no one is willing to simply give up and die when it's shown that working within the confines of their territory with their efforts can fail to meet their needs.
Of course, that which the Federation represents is akin to something like Socialism/Communism/Libertarianism, but it's a TV show and no real serious effort has been put into how you avoid all the pitfalls of empowering anyone to a position where they'd actually manage the resources in a reasonable fashion. At least some effort has been made, though, in suggesting the Vulcans with their logic were at least heavily instrumental in first establishing such a system on Earth and those of Starfleet (except Admirals/Statesmen as story necessary) being pinnacles of virtue which strive to best represent the idles of the Federation not only in word but in action.
And basically, out of some view of naivety shows since DS9 have either went the SJW route to the absurd (Voyager is exceptionally guilty of this) or going the exact opposite route (DS9's Sikso, Section 31, the whole Delphic Expanse part of Enterprise, Discovery, etc). Of course, plenty of technobabble has been used to paper it over.
The necessary evil of it all is used to justify what is done. That's precisely the opposite of the core idealism that is Star Trek.
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Well said! However, please permit me a moment as the Devil's Advocate:
I'm a fan of web comics, and I especially enjoy when a guest strip takes "liberties" with the strip's characters, back-story, pretexts, assumptions, and anything else. I find it always entertaining, and often surprisingly insightful.
Similarly, I view ST:D as not so much as a sin against The "Real" Star Trek Ethos, but more as a jab in the ribs combined with a "Hey! Look over there!" misdirection. A spin, a bit of a twist, some true wit
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I have no problem with the idea of taking liberties to a series to give it a different spin especially because it can provide surprisingly insightful things. The problem is that most recent Star Trek has achieved this insightfulness mostly in its failings.
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It's the reason I liked the later seasons of DS9, when Sisko had to wrestle with weighing is high Federation ideals against the reality of fighting an enemy that really had no moral or ethical considerations whatsoever. And you know what, he did what leaders of principle have done in existential wars have always done. The principles had to be dumped to save the principles. It was that simple. The Federation and its allies were fighting a war that, if lost, meant those civilizations' ways of life would be ov
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Nice thread, Mighty Bob and the AC.
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The difference is probably that the guest strips very, very rarely become canon. Unless the strip is SO off the rocker that it simply doesn't matter anyway.
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That's the bit I don't understand. Why avoid hedonism? If there is no reason to toil to satisfy the basic needs of the Maslow pyramid, and if people are happy with that, where is the problem?
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Why pursue happiness when it cannot be attained? If an endeavour is doomed from the start, it is not very logical to undertake it.
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So at some point the couch potatoe will be unhappy veggin' away in front of the boob tube, i.e. what makes him happy now after 8 hours of "you want fries with that"? He would get up and do something with his life? Great! Mission accomplished!
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I'm waiting for the part where you explain why this is a problem.
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What I don't understand is that you propose here only two possible outcomes. Either he's living a life in misery with a miserable job that he comes home from and spends a few hours in front of the tube, or, lacking that miserable job, he heads for drugs.
Facing only this choice, the drugs are actually the better choice. I don't know if you realize that. Unless you really want to propose that misery is better than artificial happiness.
Tig Notaro (Score:3, Informative)
I won't join CBS All Access for ST:D, but when it eventually does reach other distribution channels I want there to be episodes containing Tig Notaro. I believe she's one of the great comics of our time, and a fine dead-pan actor as well.
I don't care if she brings the entire ST:D franchise down in a smoldering inferno: I'll bring marshmallows.
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That is kinda like saying "I don't care about Star Wars anyway - but I love the prequels because of Samuel L. Jackson is in them."
I'm so not intrigued about Spock (Score:3, Interesting)
Full disclosure: I rather enjoyed the first season, certainly not perfect but the strongest season one of any Star Trek series.
I can't understand the wish for the writers to keep linking back so heavily to the existing characters though... Star Wars is having this problem too. The universe just seems smaller when they keep bumping into the same people. Haven't we seen enough of Spock through the decades, the character has been very well explored? The best parts of Discovery have been the new characters, when we spend time with them its interesting and fun. We don't need to keep linking back.
Sorry, still not buying it (Score:3)
I like Star Trek. Not really with a passion or being the guy that knows the first name of some crewman that was visible in the background of an obscure episode that was shown once but never in reruns, but I like it. Pretty much all of them, to varying degree. TOS had its charm, with its foam rocks and rubber mask aliens, it was like some sort of really well made 60s scifi show (watch some other 60s scifi shows and you know why I said "well made"). I liked the writing of TNG, they had some very good episodes with quite thought provoking social commentary. DS9's appeal was in the conflict and resolution thereof, pitting various races that didn't interact too much before into a confined space and pretty much requiring them to work together in some fashion. Voyager offered a chance to see what the values of the Federation are actually worth when there is no Federation to rely on, and we had a chance to see a few new races with new social conflicts to bounce the characters off.
And then came Enterprise. And I didn't like it. Why? Because it blew the timeline apart. Making a prequel in scifi is hard. Usually one of the few things you cannot do is to introduce new races because, well, why don't they exist in what's supposed to be later times? The usual solution is either genocide or some time travel fuckups. Enterprise decided to not decide and just do both. I still think the smart thing to do would have been to rely on established, lesser used races, give them a new back story, make some of those that will later be allies enemies and run with it. It would certainly have been interesting because you already know that they will be allies in the future but how did you get there? How did you turn a bitter enemy into a later ally? That could again have offered some chance for some interesting social aspect, since we, as humans, are pretty much constantly in that problem. Former enemies become allies, former allies become enemies. It would actually have been interesting if the Klingons would have been more inclined to cooperate with the federation at first, only to see some blunder (preferably by T'Pol, just to make things interesting) piss them off to the point that they're still bitter enemies centuries later.
Anyway. Now this. I don't know, it just doesn't click. The characters come across less like a star fleet crew and more like a self-help group. They're busier trying to deal with their own personal problems than actually doing some kind of "space stuff". Don't get me wrong, it's actually refreshing to see characters in Star Trek that are more than cartoony hero cookie-cutter characters, but this is definitely overdoing it.
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Millennials are more interested in their OWN personal problems, not those of someone else. At least if they can't pretend to "help" them.
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Over here that's considered granny reading material.
UK {and possibly elsewhere) viewable version (Score:1)
https://metro.co.uk/video/star... [metro.co.uk]
Season 1 was sooo bad, will wait for next Orville (Score:5, Insightful)
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Agreed. Complete stall when they first spoke about this tardigrade thing. OK, this is Sci Fi, but a minimum of credibility is required.
Beside that, The Orville is like a Star Trek clone / homage done right.
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Is it any different than every other TNG-era episode invoking "phase converters" and "tachyon beams"? Or really, the whole "send a star ship into high warp around the sun to go back in time" introduced in TOS and invoked a number of times, including one of the movies. Yes, it was a bit jarring, but I think they dealt with it by the end of the season a lot better than Star Wars did with midichlorians in its prequels.
All in all I enjoyed it. I thought the overall pacing and storylines were rather good, and on
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Maybe I'm alone, but I liked it (Score:2)
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If that's what you liked about ST:D, then I hope you watched Babylon 5. The acting in the first season is a bit painful, but it checks those boxes more firmly than any other Sci-Fi show.
HELLO IDIOTS (Score:1)
Hello idiot publisher. "This video is not available". It's a FUCKING TRAILER. You protect the trailer from what exactly? Here's a clue: Business 101, you WANT as many people as possible to see your trailer and be interested in PAYING and seeing the full show.
I paid for and thoroughly enjoyed ST:D through Netflix.
I'll HAPPILY PIRATE THAT SHIT if you remove any legal means for me to see the show. Me: happy omnoming pizza and watching the pirated show. You: NO MONIES from me doing that.
Fuck you.
Midichlorians, engage! (Score:1)
After all first-season episodes came out I binge-watched them all. I saw nothing that I recognized as the "Star Trek" that I knew. The main premise of the show, apparently, is that Discovery is powered by midichlorians. If you think I'm kidding, watch the whole thing yourself. Plus all the obvious pandering to the SJWs. Roddenberry knew how to address social issues of his day without being obvious, patronizing, or preaching; and with skill. Whoever wrote all that first-season crap doesn't know anything.
It w
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Fasinating
Instant veggie drive (Score:2)
I just can't get past that one, stopped watching about that point, havn't missed it since.
Orville is great though.
December 30th (Score:2)
Stupid US Distro (Score:2)
Re:Cue the butthurt (Score:4, Insightful)
Who cares what their names are, the show sucks. It doesn't suck as bad as Enterprise or Voyager, but if that's where we're at now with the Star Trek franchise then it's time to stick a fork in it.
Re:Cue the butthurt (Score:5, Insightful)
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I hated Enterprise when it went down the temporal cold war thing with the xindi. That storyline destroyed the show, and what a lame lame fucking lame final episode we got.
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The temporal cold war story was weak, but season 3 was mostly pretty good. It had potential, many of the classic Trek elements like reflecting the problems of today and exploring moral dilemmas...
For some reason they just couldn't hold it together though, too many bad episodes and ideas.
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I would have kept watching Enterprise just for the Andorians.
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I would have kept watching Enterprise just for the Andorians.
The Andorians were one of the few really good things in Enterprise. Too few appereances though. It is worth watching those episodes with them, and a couple of others but by no means the whole 4 seasons of Enterprise.
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The temporal cold war story was weak, but season 3 was mostly pretty good. It had potential, many of the classic Trek elements like reflecting the problems of today and exploring moral dilemmas...
For some reason they just couldn't hold it together though, too many bad episodes and ideas.
This... the Temporal cold war story was where they lost me. This, to me, seemed like a TNG storyline that ended up on the cutting floor but was shoe-horned into the Archer timeline.
Between that and their devotion to the Prime Directive. The reason why this irked me is because even though the Prime Directive was in place during the Kirk timeline, he ignored it when it suited him. Why? Because when you are the weaker power (Klingons seemed to have a larger presence and, for the most part, stronger ships
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The temporal cold war story was weak, but season 3 was mostly pretty good. It had potential, many of the classic Trek elements like reflecting the problems of today and exploring moral dilemmas...
Time travel can be ok for a single episode, but as the main plot device for most of a series ... it is crap. After seeing the pilot, I hoped that it would just be one or two episodes with that crap and the rest of the show would be classic episodic trek. No such luck. As I remember it, I found season 4 to be the best. Just make sure to skip the last episode.
It seemed that the Xindi attack against Earth and the ensuing war was a jab at the war on terror, but it fell flat for one, single reason: With their at
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I really liked Enterprise. Or at least what it could have been. My only issue was casting Scott Bakula as his acting style has almost always rubbed me the wrong way.
Maybe all of the Star Trek captains should *made* to perform Shakespeare, that what William Shatner and Patrick Stewart both had in common, even though their characters were completely different.
Back in 2004 I said Enterprise would be the last Star Trek as it seems only the orignal fans saw the potential. I've given Discovery a chance as it is the first season and they did some things better than TNG so maybe I'll be glad to be wrong.
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Trek is strange in that the series with the most hammy acting and plots are somehow the best too. If TNG season 1 was made now it would have been cancelled after 8 episodes.
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I think that people have forgotten how to mix fun with seriousness. Everything has to be drama drama drama and if they don't get their dopamine hit everything is lame.
I can't remember which episode it was when Kirk was explaining to the leaders of a population "You just make the decision. We won't kill Today!" humorous and serious at the same time.
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I think that people have forgotten how to mix fun with seriousness. Everything has to be drama drama drama and if they don't get their dopamine hit everything is lame.
I can't remember which episode it was when Kirk was explaining to the leaders of a population "You just make the decision. We won't kill Today!" humorous and serious at the same time.
"A Taste of Armageddon". That quote, in longer form is one of my favorite TOS lines: "We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands, but we can stop it! We can admit that we're killers, but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes... knowing that we won't kill today."
(Yes I had to look it up : ) )
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I love the cadence of how Kirk says it, "We won't kill, Today!" - total Shakespeare.
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But Enterprise was at least real Star Trek: full of optimism, exploring the rights and wrongs of the human condition when exposed to strange situations.
Discovery, OTOH, is just a dark-y wannabe scifi action series with exaggerated visuals
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I really liked Enterprise. Or at least what it could have been. My only issue was casting Scott Bakula as his acting style has almost always rubbed me the wrong way. I like him in Quantum Leap but have not liked him since. The other chars were not so bad though, The dog was AWESOME and probably the 2nd best cast member after Connor Trinneer as Tucker,
Enterprise got good in Season 3, the first two were pretty bad. The first season was so bad I didn't even finish it and didn't get around to watching it again until 2008. Season 4 was also good but you can tell they piled in the next 3-4 seasons of ideas in the last half a season because they knew they were about to be cancelled, hence why is was good.
To me Bakula was OK, a little bland but OK. Connor Tinneer is the most annoying actor and character I've ever seen.
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Yeah, it's one of those things like the Holocaust, Enterprise or Voyager where it's not enough to just not watch it. Everyone connected with the show needs to hunted down, even to darkest Brazil where they are pretending to be dentists, brought back to civilisation and put on trial for crimes against humanity in order to dissuade future generations from trying to do the same thing.
Re: Cue the butthurt (Score:4, Funny)
STD is better than an STD. But it's close.
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Call her Santa for all I care, it still doesn't make the character interesting.
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Or likable. Why would you pick an actress for the main part that is such a horrible person that it shines through on screen? I understand trying to be edgy by picking someone gender-ambiguous and unpleasant, but not for the main character!
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I'm intrigued as to your logic. (and by intrigued i mean dumbfounded)
How is it fine to post AC but not moderate AC? You know that moderation has been on /. since, well, the year dot? Saying something that is intrinsic to the site is ruining it, you might as well just say you don't like the site at all.
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I sure hope we don't use a signed 32 bit int to count with year dot. ...
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its all fun and games until disney fires you for something your dumb self said 10 years ago.
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Re:MODERATION IS CENSORSHIP (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe you should create your own message board. With blackjack! And hookers!
In fact, forget the message board.
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Ha! GP claims "quality post" yet somehow forgets to reference it in rant. I bet he'd like to revise the voting systems of the world. Complaining about the ONE thing that I believe keeps /. alive...APK is such a hoot, ain't he?
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My posts are of a high quality,
Oh yeah? How about you link to some?
Moderation is censorship. It needs to stop.
No it isn't. Grow up you whiny little shit.
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I am SICK AND TIRED of moderators being abusive and censoring my posts to -1. Nobody addresses my posts and explains why they belong at -1. My posts are of a high quality, yet they get censored very quickly and nobody ever bothers to justify the censorship. ...
Moderation is censorship. It needs to stop.
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My posts are of a high quality
Your post is Offtopic.
If Slashdot doesn't fix the abusive moderation, users will continue to leave this site and never return
I've seen this comment repeated frequently the past 20 years.
If my thoughtful and high quality posts keep getting censored to -1, I'll leave as well.
If you're modded to -1 frequently chances are we won't miss you.
It's ridiculous that moderation has become an agree/disagree vote and Trump lovers can keep voting my posts down because they disagree with them.
The fact you think that the mods here are pro Trump is a very good indication that your posts are of an especially shithouse quality.