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Star Trek Discovery's First Trailer Brings a New Ship, New Characters, and Old Conflicts (cbs.com) 507

nyquil superstar writes: Hey all, the Star Trek: Discovery trailer is out. Looks entertaining! From a report via Vox: "The trailer features Sonequa Martin-Green, fresh from The Walking Dead, as Michael Burnham, a first officer promoted unexpectedly to the position of captain by her mentor, Captain Georgiou (Michelle Yeoh). Set 10 years before the original Star Trek series (and 90 years after the franchise's only other prequel, Star Trek: Enterprise), the new series follows the starship Discovery as Burnham learns to become a captain. But she soon finds her abilities tested by a host of challenges that will be familiar to all lovers of the classic sci-fi universe: new worlds to explore and alliances to forge, hostile Klingons, and the difficulty of adhering to the Federation's peacekeeping mission."
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Star Trek Discovery's First Trailer Brings a New Ship, New Characters, and Old Conflicts

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  • by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @06:09AM (#54439935) Journal
    Sorry about that.

    I guess that means that we're going to have to just talk about something else...

    • by PolygamousRanchKid ( 1290638 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:00AM (#54440073)

      I guess that means that we're going to have to just talk about something else...

      Lack of knowledge of a subject has never stopped Slashdotters from ranting on endlessly about it. We don't read TFA, we don't read the summary, and sometimes we don't even read the post that we are replying to.

      When in doubt, just string up something with Trump, Climate Change, Russians, Universal Basic Income, Bitcoin, 3D-Printing, Apple, Drones, Bones and Elon Musk's new plan to eat a cathedral.

      • Elon Musk plans to eat a cathedral? Well...that's a new one, I'm sure it will be good for, oh I dunno, batteries.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) <mojo@w[ ]d3.net ['orl' in gap]> on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:58AM (#54440287) Homepage Journal

        Well, I can describe it if you are interested. It looks like a cross between the 90s/00s era stuff and a bit of the retina scorching bling from the new movies. It's set in the prime universe though.

        The Klingons look kinda bad at first, but I suppose we have to remember that a decade later in Kirk's time some of them had mixed Klingon/Human augment DNA so lost the forehead ridges and gained a goatee. As we know, bad guys have facial hair in Star Trek.

        A lot of it does seem familiar, especially the language used which could have been lifted from an episode of Voyager or Enterprise. No plot details at all.

        It's too early to tell if it will be any good, and remember that all Trek series took at least one season to find their feet. To me it really seems like it is going to depend on if they get a good plot hook.

  • Alternative link (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, 2017 @06:24AM (#54439973)

    This one seems to work for me:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8mesUEFjas

  • Perhaps before approving a story with a youtube link someone could actually check to make sure the video is available in a reasonable % of the world outside the USA?

    • Perhaps before approving a story with a youtube link someone could actually check to make sure the video is available in a reasonable % of the world outside the USA?

      Why do you hate the US's freedoms?

  • Fuck you Star Trek!

  • Wait (Score:5, Funny)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @06:52AM (#54440051) Homepage Journal
    Wait the new Captain is a female with the name Michael? I am confused already.
    • Re:Wait (Score:4, Interesting)

      by uncle slacky ( 1125953 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:16AM (#54440347)
      I thought female captains weren't allowed in the TOS (or earlier) time period? That was the whole reason Janis Lester had to swap bodies with Kirk in order to become captain. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Janice_Lester [wikia.com]
      • Re:Wait (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:56AM (#54440525)

        You are correct, of course. The problem is that is even worse than what they're shovelling now... because while that was relevant social commentary back then, it ain't now.

        Sticking with that - showing the great Federation as still recovering from post-WWIII social regression despite thinking of itself as an egalitarian utopia - would have been a great sci-fi premise, but a difficult sales pitch.

        In fact, showing the Federation as a bunch of aggressive but cautious jerks who are reeling from getting kicked in the groin by the Romulan War right while still recovering from the Eugenics Wars, and heading straight into the Klingon War would have been a really brave move with a lot of potential for stories with emotional weight - something Trek's been pretty weak at.

        Showing women (and scapegoated minorities) fighting to regain rights they know their ancestors had, in a Cold War-esque paranoid society with the general population trying to return to peace while the leaders and military know war looms and want to crack down on social progress to maintain control in the name of survival... there's so much material there. Plenty of which that would be a great analogue for the problems of today.

        • Re:Wait (Score:5, Insightful)

          by meta-monkey ( 321000 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:36AM (#54440839) Journal

          Showing women (and scapegoated minorities) fighting to regain rights they know their ancestors had, in a Cold War-esque paranoid society with the general population trying to return to peace while the leaders and military know war looms and want to crack down on social progress to maintain control in the name of survival... there's so much material there. Plenty of which that would be a great analogue for the problems of today.

          Except no one would watch it. The audience of Star Trek is white male nerds. They want shows about exploring the galaxy and science and aliens, and yeah a few episodes a season do some kind of social commentary thing. But when absolutely everything else in school, the HR department at work, the nightly news is RACE RACE RACE GENDER GENDER GENDER GAY SHIT GAY SHIT STRONG INDEPENDENT BLACK WYMYNZ WHAT DON'T NEED NO MANS they kind of don't want to see that shit in Star Trek. Star Trek is the escape from all that. So, you can make SJW Trek, but nobody's going to watch it. And then it'll fail, and HuffPo will right nasty articles about how racist and sexist white men are because they didn't want to watch a show about how racist and sexist white men are...IN SPACE.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Could be interesting to see if they decide to go with that and explain how the rule came about.

        The fan series Star Trek Continues addressed it, explaining that it was due to the Telerites demanding it and the young Federation needing their support and so having to accept it. It wasn't an actual rule, just an informal agreement not to promote women to that level and cause a rift.

        It's hard to see how they can get from where they start to where TOS started in a mere decade, with women going from apparent equal

    • Wait the new Captain is a female with the name Michael? I am confused already.

      I've known a few girls named Michael over the years, it's usually a boys name but it can be a girls name too.

      Oh, and she's the first officer not captain.

      • Yeah, but why choose a normally "male" name for the name of a main character? Why not "Sally" or "Mikala". There are millions of choices, but they chose a traditionally "male" name.
        • Probably a character building name. I'm sure being a girl named Michael she got bullied in school. Probably will have some flashback to being a bullied child when facing a Romulan and start screaming "Please don't give me a wedgie... PLEEEAAAASSSEEE!"

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Characters they showed seemed likable, but I didn't care for the lighting. I really hope most of the sets are brighter than the bridge, or this is going to be a very short-lived show.

    (IMO Stargate Universe failed because the screen was so dark most of the time. People don't like dark screens in prime time.)

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Senior Transgendered Asian Female Captain: Check
    Gender muted African-American Female Protege: Check
    Black males portrayed as vicious savages: Check
    While males in unimportant, peripheral roles only: Check

    I for one love this show and just know it will be a great success!

  • Pure Incompetence (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:24AM (#54440161)

    The episode order has been increased to 15. That's 15 too many, in my opinion. The development of Discovery has been marked by pure incompetence, despite having some really good people involved. I had high hopes with Bryan Fuller and Nicholas Meyer, who did really good work previously with Star Trek. I thought Rod Roddenberry might have a good feel how to run the show because he had praised Star Trek Continues, which is really well done. Fuller is gone and the show keeps sounding less interesting as more news comes out. It wasn't that long ago that Michael Dorn passed on being cast for Discovery as one of Worf's ancestors because they gave him an insulting lowball offer, about 65% of what he was paid on TNG and DS9. Between seven seasons on TNG and four on DS9, I don't think anyone else has come close to appearing in as many episodes as Dorn has. It's embarrassing.

    I have no confidence in the people developing Discovery that it's going to be worthwhile. There's nothing in the trailer that impresses me. There's a lot of action but I'm not convinced there's an interesting story to go along with it. CBS hasn't given much information on the actual premise for Discovery, and I don't see a whole lot in this trailer to provide any more information about it. It doesn't matter how diverse your cast is or how much you include special effects and combat if you don't have good writing and an interesting story to tell. With all of the delays and personnel changes, there has been more than enough time to devise a compelling premise. If there was truly an interesting premise to this show, I would expect CBS to provide more information on what that is to attract viewers. The trailer doesn't do that at all. This just seems like more incompetence to me.

    I wish this show interested me. But I have yet to see anything that makes me think it's worth watching. If I'm going to watch anything on All Access, it'll be Big Brother and The Good Fight, both of which seem far more worthwhile than Discovery. It's a shame because I really like TOS and DS9, and TNG was pretty good.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      They should have thrown some cash to Star Trek Continues for another season of that. They could do an entire season for what it costs Discovery to do one episode.

    • Re:Pure Incompetence (Score:4, Interesting)

      by dj245 ( 732906 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @09:49AM (#54440953) Homepage

      The episode order has been increased to 15. That's 15 too many, in my opinion. The development of Discovery has been marked by pure incompetence, despite having some really good people involved. I had high hopes with Bryan Fuller and Nicholas Meyer, who did really good work previously with Star Trek. I thought Rod Roddenberry might have a good feel how to run the show because he had praised Star Trek Continues, which is really well done. Fuller is gone and the show keeps sounding less interesting as more news comes out. It wasn't that long ago that Michael Dorn passed on being cast for Discovery as one of Worf's ancestors because they gave him an insulting lowball offer, about 65% of what he was paid on TNG and DS9. Between seven seasons on TNG and four on DS9, I don't think anyone else has come close to appearing in as many episodes as Dorn has. It's embarrassing.

      I have no confidence in the people developing Discovery that it's going to be worthwhile. There's nothing in the trailer that impresses me. There's a lot of action but I'm not convinced there's an interesting story to go along with it. CBS hasn't given much information on the actual premise for Discovery, and I don't see a whole lot in this trailer to provide any more information about it. It doesn't matter how diverse your cast is or how much you include special effects and combat if you don't have good writing and an interesting story to tell. With all of the delays and personnel changes, there has been more than enough time to devise a compelling premise. If there was truly an interesting premise to this show, I would expect CBS to provide more information on what that is to attract viewers. The trailer doesn't do that at all. This just seems like more incompetence to me.

      I wish this show interested me. But I have yet to see anything that makes me think it's worth watching. If I'm going to watch anything on All Access, it'll be Big Brother and The Good Fight, both of which seem far more worthwhile than Discovery. It's a shame because I really like TOS and DS9, and TNG was pretty good.

      The TV market has changed a lot since the last Star Trek series ended. Unless Amazon, Netflix, HBO, AMC or some other network that prioritizes quality picks up the franchise, the budget can be expected to not be sufficient. Star Trek has historically had a reasonably large cast of generally good actors, significant use of CGI, liberal use of guest actors, alien makeup and costumes, mostly decent writing, and a variety of custom-built sets of a generally professional nature. All of which cost money. They could cut any of these elements to save costs. My solution would be a smaller core cast of very good actors. This is a bit outside of the standard Star Trek formula, however.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:59AM (#54440293)

    JJ cured me.

  • by Danathar ( 267989 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @07:59AM (#54440295) Journal
    The whole JJ Abrams action and re-hash old plot lines (even to the point to duplicating them like the half-vulcan thing) is disappointing. I guess that is what we get for paying our $$$ at the theater to see Abrams STW and ST films. Management at the studio is certain if they just duplicate that in the series, everybody will be happy and the money will roll in.
  • by wjcofkc ( 964165 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @08:06AM (#54440319)
  • A black female lead is fine with me. In fact, I think in a true united earth future almost everyone would be darker skinned and Asian or African looking. The white Europeans appearance would be a small minority. Why not include a character who looks Chinese but was raised Norse? Anyway, what I hated about this trailer is the lead character's ridiculous eyelashes. What does an eyelash curler look like centuries in the future?
    • by denzacar ( 181829 ) on Thursday May 18, 2017 @10:53AM (#54441375) Journal

      Anyway, what I hated about this trailer is the lead character's ridiculous eyelashes. What does an eyelash curler look like centuries in the future?

      It's a genetic trait left over from Max Factor - L'Oreal wars of the late 21st century.

      Why not include a character who looks Chinese but was raised Norse?

      Said character could be from a binary star system.
      And he or she could have a representation of Thor's hammer in his/her quarters, which could be a running gag in the show, with said character often threatening to "Grab Thor's hammer and..."

  • Given how much material the star trek universe has you think they would either branch out to another sector of the galaxy (i.e voyager) or jump a few generations ahead and show a future federation. THey are going to break some story timeline with this show by having someone do X which is contradicted in any future star trek series.

    We know how the Klingon war went, we know all the back stories. It will be hard to really tell something big. And I already know there will be some story about the half vul
  • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Thursday May 18, 2017 @11:33AM (#54441673) Homepage Journal

    I started to get interested, then this one character says his entire race was engineered for the sole purpose of "sensing death".

    That's the stupidest thing I've heard on TV this year. Is there a writer's strike going on and the producer's fourteen-year-old nephew got the screenplay job?

    Fire the script editor (and at least one writer) if you want this show to last seven years.

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