Barry Jenner, Who Played Admiral Ross On 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,' Dies At 75 (deadline.com) 59
New submitter bufo333 quotes a report from Deadline: Character actor Barry Jenner, best known for his pivotal role as Admiral William Ross on "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" and with credits including recurring roles on "Dallas," "Knott's Landing," "Family Matters" and many others, died on August 9, his family has announced. He was 75.
The second best Star Trek (Score:3, Interesting)
While I consider TOS to be the best of any of the Star Trek series, DS9 is second on my list. It's not like any of the other series, but the acting was outstanding and the writing was great, especially after the first couple of seasons. The Dominion War was a great storyline. It was far better than what was going on at the same time on Voyager. They took an almost unstoppable enemy, weakened the hell out of them so they didn't adapt quickly and could be destroyed fat more easily, made assimilation cartoonishly ridiculous, and overused the hell out of them so they weren't scary any longer. Voyager was awful because of the writing, but DS9 was great. And I know this is blasphemy to many, but I actually like the first couple of seasons of TNG the best. It felt a lot more like TOS and was less of a drama than later seasons. Plus, there were plenty of excellent Ron Jones scores, which went away after season 4 because Rick Berman fired him. Episodes like The Neutral Zone, Q Who, and The Best of Both Worlds wouldn't have been the same without the music Jones composed.
And as for Admiral Ross, he was a solid recurring character, but I think the summary overstates his importance. I considered the most important recurring characters to be Dukat, Nog, the female changeling, and maybe Weyoun. Maybe I misremember, but the most notable thing I associate Admiral Ross with was Section 39.
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Actually, some of the last seasons episodes of Voyager were some of the best Star Trek from the standpoint of what Star Trek did best - biting social commentary. But only the last season.
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Maybe I misremember, but the most notable thing I associate Admiral Ross with was Section 39.
Maybe I transmember, but the most notable thing I associate with Admiral Ross was his invention of symbiote taming method that allowed Agent Talcum to discover his inner identity as the Leader of the UESC's investigative strike-force in Season 2 of The MacGyver Files: Secret of the Ooze
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So Long Ago (Score:2)
It's hard to believe it was so long ago and that he was that old now.
When I grew up, you knew when a show was "old" because it was in black and white.
Now, you can watch DS9 (or anything else) on Netflix or similar and it looks and feels like it was just filmed.
For instance...I still think Marina Sirtis is a hot young thing when I watch the show, but she's in AARP now (61)
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You can tell if a show is old now by 4:3 aspect ratio. ;-)
Aw (Score:5, Interesting)
I always liked him. He was one of the few Star Trek admirals who played it as a reasonable competent person, usually they were dicks...
Re: Aw (Score:2, Insightful)
Admiral Ross was a total dick to the Dominion representatives when they surrendered. He gloated about how great he was and quoted Earth history that was unfamiliar and irrelevant to them. Meanwhile the Dominion had just suffered its first surrender in 2000 years and the Founders were still under threat of total genocide by Federation war criminals.
Re: Aw (Score:2, Informative)
The Dominion had it coming, too. The Founders were cowards. They need the Jem'Hadar and Vorta to fight their battles while most of them just floated in the Great Link. They genetically engineered the Jem'Hadar to be drug addicts to ensure their loyalty to the Founders. The Vorta were weasels, too. But the Founders treated them all as expendable because they would just clone more as Vorta and Jem'Hadar were killed. The Jem'Hadar were one of the few respectable things about the Dominion. Also, the Dominion ha
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You guys know this was fake. Right?
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Re: Ross was a heretic (Score:1)
Yeah, yeah. Bill Ross was a pretty boy with a reassuring voice, the kind of nice guy you'd invite to a party (Romulan ale or Klingon bloodwine?) not like the other top brass who would just warp in to bark orders at the subordinates.
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Kirk sucked as an admiral on purpose because he didn't want to be one. He was promoted (probably one of those automatic done X years service type things) out of the job he loved into one where he pushed pens and sent others off have all the fun. That's why he did stupid crap like climbing El Capitan unaided so he could have fun again. It's also why he disobeyed orders: he knew he'd get demoted for it and get the Enterprise back.
Re: Ross was a heretic (Score:1)
You're only partially right.
Kirk didn't want to be pushing papers from behind a desk, and you're right about that.
However, Kirk didn't disobey orders to get demoted. He disobeyed direct orders out of his loyalty to Spock, McCoy, and Sarek. When Kirk stole the Enterprise, he really didn't know what would happen. The punishment was mitigated because he had just saved Earth from the probe and brought back a Bird of Prey, which would allow Starfleet to directly examine Klingon technology. The Enterprise was bei
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Heathen. They are but insects compared to our true Lord and Savior Q. He who weaved His name into the fabric of our very speech.
Final Proof (Score:2)
Just kidding RIP
Any reports ... (Score:2)
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Red is command colours
Red shirt, brown pants.
Not Lt. Lieutenant Murtagh! (Score:2)
Murtagh: Lieutenant.
Carl: I know you're my boss and I'm supposed to call you lieutenant--
Murtagh: I had it legally changed when I was promoted.
Carl: Okay. But what was your name before you got promoted?
Murtagh: Sergeant.