30 Years Since The Challenger Disaster: Where Were You? (space.com) 320
Martin S. writes: Thirty years ago today, NASA suffered a spaceflight tragedy that stunned the world and changed the agency forever. When I mentioned this at work most of my colleagues are too young to remember this first hand. When I heard the news, I was in a middle-school science class; our teacher walked us solemnly over to the school library, where we watched the television news. It hit especially hard because one of our other teachers had pursued the slot that was eventually filled by Christa McAuliffe.
Elementary school (Score:2, Interesting)
In the gym, watching the launch with the rest of the school. I only remember the explosion, hearing gasps and then crying.
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This is almost exactly my experience.
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School districts usually have staff whose job is to provide counseling to students when they're subject to stressful situations that are school-caused. I don't know how the hell they did it back then, when nearly every child in the entire country was subjected to a stressful situation that was, in-part, scho
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I was in the 6th grade when this happened and the students were broke up younger students together and the older student in another area all watching the launch. after the explosion the older students all sat there and watched while some of them that wanted to leave went to the auditorium and kept the younger student occupied while most of staff was so stunned they couldn't function.
On sept 11 I was in college {yes I was in college until I was 30 and would still like to go back} and I saw a large group of p
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Cell phones and internet didn't exist in the way they do now not even when my oldest son was in school, the youngest on the other hand has no idea what it's like to live in a world where you aren't connected to the internet able to look up anything you want any time or any where and carry it all around with you in your pocket. I've seen him and his friends text each other while they were in the same room as apposed to actually speaking.
He texts and facebooks from his cell phone constantly even when at schoo
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I was in Grade 7 reading in the library when my best friend came up and told me that the Challenger had blown up. I thought he was lying, but when I got into class the teacher confirmed it.
When I got home from school I basically stayed pasted to the TV until I went to bed. It was one of the more surreal moments of my life, my generation's JFK, I suppose.
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"my generation's JFK"
I've never thought of it like that, but I think that is insightful. I was born after JFK and his assassination doesn't have much more meaning for me than the assassination of Caligula. But the Challenger disaster... it's as poignant for me as September 11. And I imagine baby boomers would say the JFK assassination was a poignant for them. I know my Mom has talked about where she was when she found out JFK was killed (high school).
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Later, found the same jokes/variants were made at other schools. The take-away I got from that event was that jokes (and ideas) can have multiple independent sources, so claiming 'ownership' seemed silly. Somewhat think tha
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yeah... I was in 5th grade and the whole school was watching but not together (like we were in a common area with a mobile tv cart... others were in class rooms, etc).
The jokes came almost immediately:
Q: What does NASA stand for?
A: Need Another Seven Astronauts
Q: Did you know Christa McAuliffe had blue eyes?
A: One blew this way, one blew that way.
Ah memories... that same year one of my best friends died of Meningitis leading to the whole district being vaccinated. WAY more personal impact and the only jokes
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I only know one...
Q. Is it true that Christa McAuliffe had dandruff?
A. Yeah, they found her head and shoulders.
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Q: Where did Christa McAuliffe go on vacation?
A: All over Florida.
I'm sad now. :(
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Q: Why did NASA switch to Sprite?
A: They couldn't get 7 up.
(Awful, I know.)
I was in 6th or 7th grade -- the middle school was doing mini-week (different curriculum for the week) and my group went on a field trip to somewhere local and I didn't hear about the disaster until the late afternoon. I was stunned. I clearly remember that day.
--Mike
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Also elementary school. It was on TV in the library, although they may have called it the Media Center at that point.
It certainly made a big impression on me, as it is one of the things I remember pretty clearly.
Still, while I knew it was pretty horrible, it didn't really cause me to become overly anxious or sad or anything. If someone had given me grief counseling for it, I'd probably have been sort of bored. I think I knew, even then, that space was not always safe and that when you strap people to a g
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Where was I? (Score:3, Insightful)
At a customer's site (Score:2)
Installing a Novell Network. We all gathered in the conference room to watch.
[John]
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Installing a Novell Network. We all gathered in the conference room to watch.
This seems like such an age-specific question. I expect most of us who were adults 30 years ago were just putting in our usual workday. We weren't watching the launch, though, and didn't find out until a coworker's wife called to tell us about it.
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Which makes it more interesting to ask.
Because one of the reasons a civilian was on board the shuttle was to renew interest in the space program - you might forget, but at the time, shuttle launches were becoming regular things, and fairly boring. (24 previous laun
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I don't know. I was an adult with a full-time job by the time of September 11 and we spent the whole day crowded around a computer at work. Just like when I was in middle school we spent the day crowded around the tv in the library during the Challenger disaster. I'm fairly certain they had TV when JFK was killed (I jest! kinda) and I imagine people crowded around TVs then as well, though maybe not. Perhaps TVs weren't prevalent enough back then.
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Installing a Novell Network. We all gathered in the conference room to watch.
And then everyone heard about Challenger, and the Novell-Network-installation-watch had to be disbanded.
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And I was studying Space Technology in Kiruna then.
It was like WTF am I doing... It was quite a downturn at that moment.
Third Grade Classroom (Score:2)
Watching it on TV... (Score:2)
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I watched it live. But I normally wouldn't have as it was very early in the morning (PST) and I normally didn't watch TV in the morning anyway. But my roommate had his girlfriend over and I was sleeping on the couch. Found it hard to sleep so I sat up and turned on the TV. Then I thought "oh ya, today is the space shuttle launch" and the launch was just starting or starting soon.
(Memory being what it is, fluid and unreliable and definitely not photographic, there's probably something wrong with the stor
Watching it in Elementary School (Score:2)
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I was also, I even know which teacher's room I was in and what she looked like (my memory of younger years kind of sucks, but I remember that). We had the TV on the cart wheeled in so we could watch the launch. I don't remember much about what we did after the explosion, but I can point to the specific room where I was and who was there.
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Yea same. I was in 2rd grade? My mother had me going to our church's school. It was very small, like 25 kids per grade and only kindergarten to 3th. Grades 1-3 were (kindergarten was in nap time I think) were in the TV room that had the big 29 inch floor TV that we watched PBS shows on. We watched it launch and explode. I still remember it today even though most of the rest of that school time there was a blur. Oh that and Halley's Comet. Funny how the only two things I really remember from those grad
In school (Score:2)
Barely remember it (Score:2)
I was 5 at the time, so I have some very vague memories of people being upset about it, but I don't remember any specifics. I remember more about the aftermath over the next couple years as my childhood memories start solidifying, plus my family was big into aerospace and the space program in general.
Not even alive (Score:2)
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Holy Crap are you a cousin of mine? I had the exact same experience at the 96 Olympics. We got home, turned on the TV and were like holy crap! we just all walked through that area!
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Also, I was watching Channel 1 in school when the Challenger blew.
Outside on playground, watching 'live' (Score:2)
Lived in central FL at the time... 5th grade. We were moving stuff for a play. I was all excited about the 'separation' because I hadn't seen a day launch yet. Just night. I thought it was normal, but couldn't figure out why the number of objects (smoke plumes, really) we could see didn't add up to 2 srb's and 1 shuttle...
In high school (Score:3)
After that class was our morning break period. I immediately went to my next class, which was physics. In the back of the classroom, many of my classmates were huddled around a portable radio, listening to the news. No one said much. (I didn't actually see the video footage of the explosion until I got home that day.)
Yet the gods do not give lightly of the powers they have made,
And with Challenger and seven, once again the price is paid,
Though a nation watched her falling, yet a world could only cry,
As they passed from us to glory, riding fire in the sky!
- From "Fire In The Sky," written by Jordin Kare
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I was a senior in high school that day.
What were you for the rest of that academic year?
Watching in school (Score:2)
Memories ... (Score:5, Insightful)
I had been following the space program since I was a kid, so I had read the book that was published after the Apollo 1 fire that also pointed out other problems with NASA safety - in particular the shuttle's SRBs using o-rings and segments instead of a single-piece srb as mandated by the military, because the only way to ship the rings from the pork-barred supplier (martin-thiokol) to nasa was in pieces by barge.
I had stopped by my mother and was watching it on tv when I saw what looked like a small plume of gas coming out the side of one of the srbs, and immediately said "bet you it's a joint failure." A few seconds later, ka-boom.
The whole disaster could have been prevented if the manufacturing plant had been located close enough to the launch facility not to have required the srbs to be shipped in segments. The real disaster has always been political influence on procurement programs.
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As I recall, the SRBs were shipped in segments because they couldn't cure the propellant properly in a single large mass.
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The real disaster has always been political influence on procurement programs.
I suppose the good news is NASA has learned from their mistakes. Now they just keep pushing the SLS schedule back, which avoids having a launch failure by not having a launch, while the Space Industrial Complex continues to receive their pork.
Waiting to be born (Score:2)
Looking at it in the sky in elementary class (Score:2)
Live on TV (Score:2)
I remember not having school on that day. I was all hyped up watching this live on TV. Like the commentators, it took me a moments reflection to realize the deflagration was not normal. I remember being quite shocked by it. When my mother came in from work and I announced it to her, I was amazed at the indifference she exhibited, contrasting my thorn feelings on it.
At work (Score:4, Insightful)
Programming, when my manager and another programmer walked by my cube, and told me they were going to what I jokingly referred to as the "accessory meeting room" (the bar next door). They told me Challenger had exploded, I joined them, and we all had drinks as we watched the reruns on the tv over the bar.
*shit*
Fucking "launch it anyway, the President wants to mention it in his State of the Union speech tonight".
mark
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Testing, in the lab, when someone broke security regs and brought in an AM radio and told us, "The shuttle just blew up".
I said, "You're shitting me."
He turned on the radio, and nothing else got done that day.
At home watching the raw NASA feeds (Score:2)
In Utero (Score:4, Informative)
I personally was about 5 months shy of dropping out, but my father-in-law was best friends with the pilot of the Challenger. They grew up together in Beaufort, NC and both went to the Naval Academy (my father-in-law went into submarines though). He and my mother-in-law were invited to go down to the launch but couldn't because she had just given birth to my wife!
He's still pissed off about it. It was a purely political decision to launch that day. The engineers said they shouldn't and said there was an unnecessary risk due to exact problem that ended up happening. But because it was already delayed several times before, they were pressured to launch against the engineer's recommendations. Because of that people needlessly died.
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But, as Paul Harvey says, there's the rest of the story... The engineers leave out the part where they designed a flawed joint in the firs
I was playing in a band (Score:2)
Naturally, our audience was all upstairs, watching events unfold in the big public TV set. It was all right, as the band was doomed anyways.
Teaching my middle school students with the TV on. (Score:2)
ironically (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm probably one of the few people in this country that found out about the Challenger explosion with a sigh of relief.
I was a senior in HS, and was taking classes offsite at a local college in the mornings. I had a tape deck in my car, so I rarely listened to news in the morning, and I think that day I'd even decided to skip class, sleep in, and screw around. So I'm minding my own business every morning.
I had to check in to my HS for the afternoon, though. When I walked into school, it was quiet. Like, CREEPY quiet...there were something like 2500 students in my highschool, it was lunchtime, and nearly completely silent. As I came into the commons, I could see that everyone - hundreds of kids and teachers alike - was just shocked, gobsmacked.
This was the 1980s. The era of Red Dawn, Reagan, The Day After, and 50,000 nuclear warheads. I genuinely feared that nuclear war had been announced.
When my g/f told me that the Challenger blew up, I may have even said aloud "Oh? Is that all?"
To this day, what I remember of that moment was my feeling of tremendous relief.
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After reading the first line of your comment I was ready to fire off a reply along the lines of 'fuck off you callous...etc'
However, given what you thought happened does really put it into perspective and I likely would have felt the same. I never had to live with the fear of nuclear war, so it's hard to imagine the kind of stress and fear that could cause. To think that the 'unthinkable' had happened must have been a gut-punch.
High School (Score:2)
I was in high school, studying at a friend's house for our biology midterm, when her sister came running down the stairs shouting "The Challenger just went up." And my friend said "Yes, the Challenger is going up today." And the sister said "No, no, it blew up."
A couple of years later, I was in college taking Freshman Physics 102. The professor was supposed to be running an experiment on the (grounded) Space Shuttle. Instead, he was teaching Freshman Physics 102. And he never let us forget that. I thi
Taking pictures of the event with my poleroid (Score:5, Interesting)
Watching from the beach, after my dad decided we should skip school to go watch.
I have pictures of it from before launch til after the anomoly occurred ... And several pictures of random shots that happened when I stood in shock and awe looking at the sky and not realizing I was still pushing the button until my dad grabbed me and pointed out I was out of film.
I was in 3rd grade.
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umm... pics or it didn't happen?
If they're halfway decent or historically interesting, how about scan them, post them somewhere. Give us a link.
vacation (Score:2)
We were on a touring yacht around Antigua. As a result, we only got sporadic radio reports for the first few hours. Bit of a downer in the middle of an otherwise idyllic setting.
Once I found out the contract was "wired" (i.e. internal nepotistic corruption) for Morton Thiokol and they refused to build onsite, and that that was the only reason the damn two-piece body was chosen over a single structure, I was thoroughly pissed off.
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You probably won't believe this (Score:2)
I was highschool age. There was no school that day. I slept in. I was having a dream about this crystal perfume decanter that was one of those "don't you dare touch that because you might break it" objects in the house. In the dream, I had removed the top which is a thin 3-sided pyramid about six inches tall. I fumbled the top. I was like "oh crap, gotta get this back on". For some reason I couldn't get it back on straight. I woke up to the sound of the phone ringing. It was my Mom. She told me to
Screaming (Score:2)
I was in HS and stayed home that day ("sick") to specifically watch the launch. I remember when it blew apart and knew instantly that is was over. The announcer on TV kept going on and on and on about how there might be a problem, this doesn't seem normal, they're checking the status, etc. I was screaming at the announcer to shut-up, understand, and realize a bunch of people just died. He didn't hear me.
Calling to renew a library book (Score:2)
Working with o-rings (Score:5, Funny)
I was at home, working on my plumbing, wondering why I received space grade o-rings instead of the cheap ones I ordered.
University of Calgary (Score:2)
Elementary school (Score:3)
Watching on TV at school (Score:2)
Not watching Star Trek (Score:2)
At RPI (a geek school), whenever Star Trek was on they put it up on the big TV in the student union.
If you pass through the first floor of the union between classes and see a hundred people all looking at the TV, that's what you expect to see.
They weren't watching Star Trek.
I still remember those demon horns curling into the sky and thinking WTF is this?
For a while the fear was that we'd build something so complex that we couldn't maintain it for long enough to use it.
still get a chill thinking about that d
I'd run home to watch the launch (Score:2)
all I remember is the vehicle clearing the towwer, a big cloud of birds, and a big ball of fire... and every space nerd in my school (myself included) bawling for a week.
Out at the Cape (Score:2)
I was in my teens over mid-winter break and my father had taken me down to Florida to watch a Space Shuttle launch since I loved the space program so much.
Every day for the week we had gotten up before dawn, trudged out in the cold and driven to the Visitor's Center to be bused out to the Visitor viewing area on the peninsula across from the launching area.
I remember when it launched everyone cheering, and then it exploded and people were confused that it didn't look right.
The bus driver who had seen lots o
Who else remembers... (Score:2)
Our Teacher was an alternate. (Score:3)
Our teacher applied for the program and was one of what was probably many alternates for the Christa McAuliffe spot.
Everything we did that year revolved around NASA and the space program. I
It hit home when we realized that our teacher could have possibly been on that ship.
Sculpture class (Score:2)
Second grade. (Score:2)
Dupe! (Score:2)
http://science.slashdot.org/st... [slashdot.org]
Was sleeping, in Bangalore. (Score:2)
I was in high school... (Score:2)
I was there when it happened (Score:2)
I was right in the cockpit next to the pilot
Signed,
Brian Williams
Going to TRW (Score:2)
"That's not true!" (Score:2)
My knee jerk reaction while at work concentrating at a particular task, someone ran in "the Challenger just blew up!" As I remember the day before when launch was scrubbed because they couldn't remove the door mechanism off side hatch. A handle assembly is attached to side hatch on Orbiter for crew entry, hatch is closed, and White Room techs remove this assembly. However, some bolts were stuck, they couldn't remove the assembly (was taking too long) so the launch was scrubbed. Meanwhile media people were c
I was in science class (Score:2)
We were watching the launch on TV in our Elementary school (I want to say I was in 4th grade) science class.
That class more-or-less became the Challenger discussion class from then on. We followed all of the latest developments in the investigation and I want to say (though I don't recall 100%) that it was in this same class that we learned about the O-ring problem and what it meant.
Toronto (Score:2)
I was in an ethnic grocery store fronting Bloor St W, somewhere between Ossington and Dufferin, buying rutabagas to make a vegetable stock for a fancy Swedish meatball recipe (three different kinds of ground meat) from The Joy of Cooking, when the radio behind the cash register booth came on with the breaking news.
I can even recall where I was standing in relationship to the interior shelving. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure I had been reading Surely You're Joking just a week earlier (not that the connection
To young to remember (Score:2)
In the lab working on a space shuttle simulation (Score:2)
I was really into the space shuttle--I used to build models of various proposed space shuttles when I was a teenager into model rocketry. At the time of the disaster, I had found my way into a program in the psych department at the local community college that tried to study the effects of living in enclosed spaces by using a space shuttle mockup built out of plywood, TV monitors, some Atari 800s and electronic hardware from the surplus yard down in Taunton. It was very not realistic, but at the same ti
Don't remember much (Score:2)
I was... (Score:2)
... in college, at the time. Another student came into the room and asked, "Did you hear the Challenger exploded?" He was a well-known practical joker, so I figured this was just another one of his jokes. The fact that he was an engineering student and delivered the news in a completely deadpan voice didn't help, any. When he turned on the TV to show me, I couldn't believe it. I'm pretty sure it took about an hour to really sink in, and I couldn't do anything for the rest of the day but sit there and watch
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Elementary school in Florida (Score:2)
Whenever the shuttle was scheduled to launch, most classes took a break and we filed out to the playground to watch. And that day was no exception.
I got in my first significant playground fight that day. While most of us were staring in horror at what had happened, the new kid was pumped, thought it was "totally wicked" and was cheering enthusiastically. This being Florida, where school kids practically worshipped astronauts and it was very obvious that seven of them had just died, I punched him right in
In Boca Raton, with IBM (Score:2)
Quoting the OP since my experience is identical (Score:2)
When I heard the news, I was in a middle-school science class; our teacher walked us solemnly over to the school library, where we watched the television news.
No idea (Score:2)
I was probably in my crib or whatever, given I was like a year old. :p
At my office (Score:2)
The engineers at my office wanted to watch the launch, so we invaded the accounting office that had the windows facing the Space Center. It was a beautiful launch, up to the time the exhaust trail forked, forming a "Y". The accountants all said, "Oh, look how beautiful!" The engineers all said, "Uh-oh. That's not supposed to happen. . . ."
Remember it well... (Score:2)
As I recall I was temporarily between jobs and decided to watch the launch at home with my wife, who worked nights as a nurse. Being a big fan of the Shuttle, I tried to watch every launch, and when I saw the large y-shaped cloud, I realized something had gone *seriously* wrong.. The rest of the day was a blur.. Then again in 2003, I realized I had a good chance to see the firey trail of Columbia reentering the atmosphere, as the reentry path was close enough to Las Vegas to see in the northern sky. So I go
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I used to ride my bike about ten miles to work each day at a small Unix software developer in Brookline MA. I wheeled my bike through the front door and noticed the secretary was sitting at her desk with a stunned expression.
"What's wrong?" I asked.
"It blew up," she said. You know how in books people who are overwhelmed with shock say things "in a hollow voice"? That was how she said it; I'd never actually heard anyone talk in that voice before.
"What blew up?"
"The Shuttle. It blew up."
So we all gathered
Re: Where were you?? (Score:2)
Buncha egomaniacs this species is...
I notice you claim that other people have ego problems yet you feel compelled to tell other people how they should think. That's pretty interesting, wouldn't you say?
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In my 7th grade class, Paul had just gotten a Swiss Army knife for Christmas and was having a problem not taking the chairs apart in the classroom (young people may now be astonished that kids carrying knives to school was normal just 30 years ago, in the pre-Bush America). So, when the Principal came in
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You gave them what they wanted.
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In South Jersey we also had snow, so school was let out early. We were supposed to watch the launch at school, but between the launch delays and the snow day we were at a friend's house with the TV on when it launched. I was in the kitchen making hot cocoa when my friend yelled, "Hey, guys! The space shuttle blew up!" We said, "Shut up, Charles," and ignored his protestations to come in and watch. When we finished making the hot cocoa, we finally saw that, sadly, he wasn't making shit up this time.
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Same for me... I was also home sick, and got to watch the launch. I remember being really confused, then in denial ("it didn't explode, the SRBs are supposed to do that.") It wasn't until years later that I realized that I didn't just watch 7 astronauts die, I watched the death of the American space program. Columbia was the nail in the coffin, but we never actually recovered from Challenger.
We are a bunch of risk-averse pansies.
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