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Experiment On Public Pre-reviewing and Discussion of Workshop Paper Submissions (reddit.com) 41

An anonymous reader writes: The ADAPT workshop (6th international workshop on adaptive, self-tuning computing systems) is trying a new publication model: all papers have been submitted via Arxiv, are now publicly discussed via Reddit, and will then be selected by a Program Committee for a presentation at the workshop. The idea is to speed up dissemination of novel ideas while making reviews more fair and letting the authors actively engage in discussions, defend their techniques, fix mistakes and eventually improve their open articles.
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Experiment On Public Pre-reviewing and Discussion of Workshop Paper Submissions

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  • Ah, arXiv (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mbone ( 558574 ) on Saturday November 14, 2015 @07:22PM (#50932267)

    You do know that some people are blocked from arXiv, and at least in some cases there is no obvious reason why (and no real appeal)? (Opponents of string theory, for example, seem to get this, or at least complain about this, fairly often.) I have seen this in action, it is real and it is capricious.

    I do not think that arXiv is suitable for a filter for a public meeting as long as its internal filtering is opaque in this fashion.

    • Re:Ah, arXiv (Score:4, Interesting)

      by fph il quozientatore ( 971015 ) on Saturday November 14, 2015 @07:46PM (#50932377) Homepage
      I have never heard of this, and I am interested. Can you name an example of a respectable scientist (not a "fringe" controversial person, I mean) who has been banned?
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward

        I have never heard of this, and I am interested. Can you name an example of a respectable scientist (not a "fringe" controversial person, I mean) who has been banned?

        Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson had this happen to him. He posted a record of his interactions with the arXiv moderators at

        http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/articles/arxiv_correspondence.html [cam.ac.uk]

        Often the people who get their papers rejected by arXiv are just ordinary researchers who are trying to post ordinary papers. One such example is the following.

        http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/2013/12/arxivs-police [tanyakhovanova.com]

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Has Josephson been banned, or is he just upset that his paper, which seems to be more on the philosophy of biology and quantum mechanics, was deemed not appropriate for being listed as quantum physics? The paper is still on arxiv. His communications with the moderators and higher ups could maybe have been a little more professional. Not that it should matter. But the actual complaint is very questionable, and it is not a clear case of the moderators blatantly disregarding what they should be doing, as i

          • by Anonymous Coward

            Has Josephson been banned, or is he just upset that his paper, which seems to be more on the philosophy of biology and quantum mechanics, was deemed not appropriate for being listed as quantum physics?

            Josephson claims that he was temporarily "blacklisted" from posting to arXiv. See

            http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/archivefreedom/main.html [cam.ac.uk]

        • Not banned, and not from arXiv, but a recent Nobel laureate was co-author of a paper that recently didn't survive peer-review at a couple of supposedly prestigious medical journals (JAMA and NEJM, as I recall). (Link below.)

          They took their paper elsewhere, where it was better received.

          How recent? The latest round of awards. How recently? The rejections happened before the awarding of the prize.

          Feather in the cap of the publishing journal, and a black eye for the two that rejected it.

          https://duckduck

      • by mbone ( 558574 )

        I have never heard of this, and I am interested. Can you name an example of a respectable scientist (not a "fringe" controversial person, I mean) who has been banned?

        Marni Sheppeard [physicsworld.com].
        Peter Woit [columbia.edu].

        Note that they are not (as far as I can tell) banned, just blocked. Nothing is made public, it's just that certain things seem to happen consistently. And, in my experience, moderated papers are not available to the public.

        Note that the real problem here is not that papers are moderated. I understand the desire for moderation. It's the way it's being done that is problematic.

      • by Sibko ( 1036168 )

        Can you explain to me why a "fringe" scientist (err... controversial person...?) shouldn't be allowed to speak on Arxiv? I just find it really curious that you immediately imply it's okay to censor a certain kind of speech you don't personally like. I mean, you're pretty much using the No True Scotsman fallacy right here; if the OP comes up with a name you can just declare him to not be a "real" scientist and you'll never be proven wrong.

        You either have an open forum and the idiots that come with that, or y

        • Can you explain to me why a "fringe" scientist (err... controversial person...?) shouldn't be allowed to speak on Arxiv?

          Because the actual scientists using arXiv don't want to have to manually filter out a crapflood of spam from whackadoodles. Make no mistake, if the normal channels get too much "fringe" science, then the real scientists will leave and it will be worthless for anything but timecube theories.

          I just find it really curious that you immediately imply it's okay to censor a certain kind of speec

  • is the program to be in Java and interpreted, C and compiled or specific to a CPU family and assembled, possibly in binary and toggled in via the front panel (don't reviews require a panel of ancients)?

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