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Canada Will Ship 800 Doses of Experimental Ebola Drug to WHO 102

The WSJ reports that 800 doses of an experimental vaccine for Ebola, developed over a decade at Public Health Agency of Canada’s main laboratory in Winnipeg, will be shipped to the World Health Organization in an effort to help fight the ongoing Ebola crisis in West Africa: The vaccine will be shipped by air from Winnipeg, Manitoba, to the University Hospital of Geneva via specialized courier. The vials will be sent in three separate shipments as a precautionary measure, due to the challenges in moving a vaccine that must kept at a very low temperature at all times. ... The vaccine had shown “very promising results in animal research” and earlier this week, Ottawa announced the start of clinical trials on humans at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in the U.S. ... The government has licensed NewLink Genetics Corp. , of the U.S., through its wholly owned subsidiary BioProtection Systems Corp. to further develop the vaccine for use in humans. The government owns the intellectual property rights associated with the vaccine.
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Canada Will Ship 800 Doses of Experimental Ebola Drug to WHO

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  • WHO? (Score:1, Funny)

    by TWX ( 665546 )

    Canada Will Ship 800 Doses of Experimental Ebola Drug to WHO

    Who?

  • Don't call him Who, just call him "the Doctor".
  • by canatech ( 982314 ) on Sunday October 19, 2014 @02:37AM (#48179243)

    Maybe my tax dollars might save some lives.
    And maybe we'll see the words 'government' and 'intellectual' in the same sentence more often.
    Here's hoping.

    • by Jane Q. Public ( 1010737 ) on Sunday October 19, 2014 @02:44AM (#48179257)

      Maybe my tax dollars might save some lives. And maybe we'll see the words 'government' and 'intellectual' in the same sentence more often. Here's hoping.

      It's interesting that OP claims the government "owns" the "IP" related to the vaccine.

      In the U.S. there are very few -- almost no -- circumstances in which the government can "own" rights to patents, inventions, copyrights, ect.

      They can be classified, but not "owned" except under very rare circumstances. While the ideal has been distorted, especially since 2000, the Federal government is still an employee of The People in the States, and doesn't really "own" anything.

      • IANAL

        Well, I suppose the government paid for the building, the test tubes, and the salary of the researchers so i guess they own the results.....on my behalf.

      • They can be classified, but not "owned" except under very rare circumstances. While the ideal has been distorted, especially since 2000, the Federal government is still an employee of The People in the States, and doesn't really "own" anything.

        Uh...I'll just leave this here... [ic.gc.ca]

        Yaz

        • The US has a patent on an Ebola virus..
          Human ebola virus species and compositions and methods thereof [google.com]

          Looks like a Canadian patent, owned by the " The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Sec Retary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Control".

          It's the wrong strain, though. Also I'm not sure why the US government would own a Canadian patent.

          • The US has a patent on an Ebola virus.. Human ebola virus species and compositions and methods thereof [google.com]

            Looks like a Canadian patent, owned by the " The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Sec Retary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Control".

            It's the wrong strain, though. Also I'm not sure why the US government would own a Canadian patent.

            I noticed that myself. However, as someone who has a few patents to his credit, it's not unusual for companies (and I suppose governments) in North America to file patents in both countries to improve their overall protection. The patent systems in the two countries are subtly different, and patents are still a national jurisdiction (meaning that US patents are unenforceable in Canada, and vice-versa). Things patented in the US but not here in Canada are fair game in Canada, as things currently stand. C

          • It's the wrong strain, though. Also I'm not sure why the US government would own a Canadian patent.

            In reply to this and the other person above:

            That was my whole point. The U.S. government can't hold patents, under most circumstances, by U.S. law. Which is, apparently, very different from Canada.

            But I know of no law that says it can't hold patents in other countries. I am very skeptical of the ethics of it, though.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        "In the U.S. there are very few -- almost no -- circumstances in which the government can "own" rights to patents, inventions, copyrights, ect."

        In Canada and most other democracies the gov't is the people, and the people are allowed to own stuff. In the US the government is imposed on a hapless population by lizard beings from planet Big Business, who milk the american people for every ounce of their creativity, via rhetoric and constitutional spells and other sacralized bullshit, in order to benefit Big

        • In Canada and most other democracies the gov't is the people, and the people are allowed to own stuff.

          As a generalization you're correct, however, in the case of patents, they technically aren't held by the Government of Canada, but are instead held by the Queen. This is usually written as "HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN, IN RIGHT OF CANADA AS REPRESENTED BY THE MINISTER OF..." in Canadian patents.

          Of course, in a practical sense, the Queen is going around acting as a patent troll. She may own the patents, but control tends to lie with the minister of the responsible government agency.

          Yaz

      • by Yaztromo ( 655250 ) on Sunday October 19, 2014 @05:13AM (#48179483) Homepage Journal

        It's interesting that OP claims the government "owns" the "IP" related to the vaccine.

        Something I left out of my previous post; generally, the Government of Canada doesn't own the patent; instead it's owned by Queen Elizabeth II, in Right of Canada, and represented by the minister of the relevant government agency.

        Here's an example I picked purely because of it's humorous title, particular when you relate it to the Queen as owner: APPARATUS FOR PERFORMING SCROTAL CIRCUMFERENCE MEASUREMENT ON BULLS [ic.gc.ca].

        Yaz

      • by dk20 ( 914954 )

        I find it interesting how the article talks about how the Canadian government owns the IP yet you discuss the US and its rules.

        This is something you see often on slashdot, not all countries have the same rules as the US does.

        • I find it interesting how the article talks about how the Canadian government owns the IP yet you discuss the US and its rules.

          I am tempted to write WHOOSH! here, but I will politely refrain from meaning it seriously. For now.

          I did not make a mistake. I was purposefully bringing attention to that difference between those governments.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        This is the most ignorant comment, I have ever seen modded up.

        The U.S. government, "owns" and has rights in multiple patents.

        Just pulled this from a random patent.
        "The invention described herein was made in the course of work partially funded by Grant No. xxxxxxxxxxx from the National Institutes of Health, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The U.S. government may have rights in this invention."

        You will see that the U.S. government can do anything with the research funded by the government. This

  • by Anonymous Coward

    ...to WHOM

  • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Sunday October 19, 2014 @03:04AM (#48179307)

    It's called favipiravir, and originates in Japan. It was tested on a few Spanish patients and it seems to have worked. The key difference between favipiravir and the ZMapp mAb is that favipiravir is effective even when given in the later stages of infection.

    • I have a hunch a desperate West African dying in a tent, surrounded by strangers wearing astronaut uniforms, will take either one... first come first served, aay?

      I remember someone here shared the notion that x white people had to get the disease to get a vaccination underway. Maybe the tipping point was actually x hours of news coverage.

      Whatever the motivation, thank you Canadians! This never was a we versus them problem. We are them and they are us, all earthlings.

      • I remember someone here shared the notion that x white people had to get the disease to get a vaccination underway.

        Leaving aside the "x white body count" shit (remember, most of the work so far has been on the basis of fears of weaponised EBV), you do realise that before you can have a vaccination programme, you firstly need to have a vaccine that works, with a reasonable degree of safety and efficacy (so trials are unavoidable) ; then you need to produce large quantities of the vaccine (GSK estimate that t

  • bbbut racism.... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gelfling ( 6534 ) on Sunday October 19, 2014 @08:20AM (#48179833) Homepage Journal

    I am keeping my fingers crossed that MSNBC screams that black people are being used as guinea pigs

  • Pardon my ignorance, but where is the greater good served by intellectual rights, in the face of a potentially dangerous epidemic. As an above poster pointed out, not even the US Gov't can own intellectual rights (that I know of anyway). Say this vaccine works, and works really well. Does that now make us all liable to pay the Canadian Gov't for more doses, or to license the formula for manufacture? At what cost. Interesting. I want to learn more facts behind this.

  • And when you're sick of people dying. Call me. Remember this.

  • Current list of Ebola drugs [quora.com], tacky headline on their stock market status [twitter.com]

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