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India Plans Mission To Probe Sun By 2020 146

Posted by samzenpus from the getting-hot dept.
An anonymous reader writes "India is planning a mission to probe the Sun before 2020. The nation launched a Moon mission a few years ago and sent a Mars mission late last year. From the article: 'Indian Space Research Organization has lined up over a dozen missions, including its first probe on the Sun, Isro chairman K Radhakrishnan said on Friday. Though, the mission to probe the Sun was already on the cards, the agency now has a clear picture of its plan and had put a timeframe within which it hoped to undertake it, Radhakrishnan said, while addressing students at a private University here. He said the "Aditya" mission to the Sun had been planned between 2017 and 2020.'"
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  • ... ice

    • Re:Take ... (Score:5, Funny)

      by Jane Q. Public ( 1010737 ) on Sunday March 02, 2014 @04:21PM (#46383609)

      "... ice"

      They won't need ice. They're going at night.

    • ...ice

      I guess they'll have to, otherwise everything in the Squishee [wikia.com] machine will melt long before the arrive.

    • ... you guys just have to make crude jokes ?

      I mean, India has all the rights that all the other nations (whether it be USA or Russia) have to send their craft to Sun, Moon, Mars or wherever they want to send them to.

      Or just because it's India that you guys think they'll somehow fucked up ?

      The truth is everybody has had hick-ups in their own space missions - NASA included.

      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        These are "flying to the sun" jokes, not India jokes. Lighten up.

        But like all good space travelers they should remember to bring a towel. And mind their heads.

        .

      • everybody has had hick-ups in their own space missions

        You mean they chose an astronaut from Kansas?

  • Maybe they should start probing the constant raping going on. What a fucked up country.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      They could take all the rapists and put them on a manned mission. Two birds, one stone.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jma05 ( 897351 )

      Which country are you from? Is the per capita rape rate in your country much better?

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by AK Marc ( 707885 )
        Rape isn't comperable between countries. As Assange found out, consentual sex in sweeden can be "rape" and as such, the defintions are not uniform. And reported rapes are low in Saudi Arabia, where being raped is a capital crime. Some places encourage reported rapes, others discourage it, and the definition not being uniform leads to an inability to reliably compare rape statistics between countries.

        • Being raped is not a capital crime in Saudi Arabia. The myth of that got out when a married woman claimed she was raped, and since there wasn't enough evidence to prove it, the prosecutor decided to charge her with adultery. It's screwed up and Muslims around the world protested the case, but they're a US-backed dictatorship and that's that.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by AK Marc ( 707885 )
            Adultry isn't just married infidelity. Sex outside marriage is adultry (not just being married and having sex with a non-spouse, but having any sex with someone you aren't married to, regardless of your and their marriage status) in many of "those places". Being raped is not a defense for adultry. So yes, being raped can be a capital crime. That's not a myth. That's the law.

            • Citation needed. Sex outside of marriage is referred to as "Zina" in Saudi Arabia, which is not a capital offense. Adultery is a subset of sex crime law, and is punished by flogging if unmarried, only married people qualify for capital punishment for adultery..

          • They do not need anyone's backing and that definitely includes the US. China would gladly replace the US in SA. As long as they can sell their oil to anyone they want they hardly need US backing. People claiming the US backs dictators and non-democratic leaders are practically calling for the US to interfere in another countries internal matters. On the other hand they also complain when the US does interfere so the best course of action would be to do nothing which appears to be the current US foreign pol

            • Current US foreign policy is not "do nothing." The US government backed the Bahraini dictatorship and looked the other way as their police fired on pro-democracy protestors and refused to sanction the government despite its documented use of torture and human rights abuses. Why? Because the Bahraini king allowed the US Navy to park its ships there. The US government approved the sale of weapons to the Saudi dictatorship that human rights groups warned would be used on protestors and for torture (e.g. sellin

              • Exactly how did they back the Bahraini government? Deploy troops? Issue dire warnings and threats against protestors? Initiate drone strikes on the protesters? They issued a standard statement to the effect that people have complaints that should be solved peacefully through dialog and not violence, Anything more than that and it is considered interfering in another countries internal business isn't it?

                • Compare how the US responded to similar actions in Iran; the president held press conferences and pressed the issue at the UN and got Europe to agree to sanctions. With Bahrain, no action was taken; the implication being that protesters' livesans democracy are worth less than navy parking spaces.

                  US-made tanks sold to Saudi stormed into Bahrain and crushed the protests. The US government decided that was not enough reason to deny further sales.

                  • You cannot compare the US relationship with Bahrain with US relations with Iran. Last time I checked Bahrain was not funding and arming just about every terrorist group in the region for the express purpose of undermining US policy. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iran's version of an NGO. When it comes to real world international relations every situation is different. In this case the Iranians were supporting and encouraging the Bahrain protesters to undermine the government of Bahrain. You know just like the US

          • The myth of that got out when a married woman claimed she was raped, and since there wasn't enough evidence to prove it, the prosecutor decided to charge her with adultery.

            Which means that the myth is not really a myth and is in fact a fact, as you have just illustrated.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Threni ( 635302 )

        Chances are that he's not from a country which sentences people to gang-rape:
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl... [bbc.co.uk]

        Sure, it's a cultural thing; best not interfere or comment, right?

      • The "per capita rate" is mostly irrelevant when most of what the modern world would consider "Rape" is entirely legal in India. Once a woman has been married, often by force, under the age of 15, it is impossible for her to divorce and the only part of the sexual assault considered "Illegal" is if her "Husband" causes her physical injury. Then he's charged with misdemeanor assault, not rape.

        Then there's the armed "Rape squads" patroling the slums where not much of anything will be reported due to the comple

  • How are they to withstand the heat and gravity sending a probe to the sun? Surely this is just to get close to take closeup pictures. But we have Helios for that. And will the probe be named the Icarus 1?

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      They'll go at night

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        They know better than that. The actual plans call for them to fly all the way around and land on the dark side of the sun.

    • Plus I hear the rent there is horrendous.

    • They'll name it Icarus, of course. It's just what you do when sending anything towards the sun.
  • With all of the problems that exist in India, I don't see how they are going to get it done. Even if they do, at what ultimate cost? I think of all those who will suffer as a result of a government fools errand.

    • Re:I Don't See How (Score:5, Insightful)

      by SJHillman ( 1966756 ) on Sunday March 02, 2014 @03:52PM (#46383455)

      Because NASA totally waited until the US didn't have any homeless people before heading to space...

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Threni ( 635302 )

        India has more than a `homeless` problem; I don't see how you can equate the two, unless you're rather willfully ignoring the massive problems India is turning its back on to fund these `we're in the space-age club too` extravagances.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Teancum ( 67324 )

          India has more than a `homeless` problem; I don't see how you can equate the two, unless you're rather willfully ignoring the massive problems India is turning its back on to fund these `we're in the space-age club too` extravagances.

          At some point India needs to leave the "we is stupid 'n need your money 'cause we dn't know better" attitude. If there is something that India needs, it is to give its people the freedom to do whatever it is that they do best and stop trying to coddle them. Defend people's right to life, liberty, and property but otherwise stay out of their affairs and let them succeed rather than making everybody a charity case.

          I currently live in a place that a century ago was far more destitute and a much more harsh cl

    • Re:I Don't See How (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Teancum ( 67324 ) <robert_horning@n ... et minus painter> on Sunday March 02, 2014 @05:18PM (#46383915) Homepage Journal

      With all of the problems that exist in India, I don't see how they are going to get it done. Even if they do, at what ultimate cost? I think of all those who will suffer as a result of a government fools errand.

      While I will admit India has some problems, they are an emerging country and certainly not the destitute poor that you are making it out to be. I also admire the Indian space program as something which really is a top rated endeavor that ranks right with China, Russia, and America. They have very competent rocket scientists that know how to put a vehicle into orbit, and really aren't all that far away from being able to successful launch crewed flights of their own if it wasn't for stupid and silly comments like yours who depict India as some poor unfortunate backwater country not worthy of anything but pity.

      Heck, I am very impressed they are even considering this probe, and it represents a level of sophistication and ability which so far no other country on the Earth, not even America, has been able to accomplish. Getting something into the Sun takes more delta-v than a sample & return mission from Mars and in fact is harder than sending something into interstellar space like the Voyager missions. This literally is the frontier of human experience in any form and that by itself should speak volumes about what India is going to accomplish here.

    • With all the problems in America, why on earth do you send probes in to outer space?

    • Just because your superpower is on the decline and no longer has the capability to do a manned space mission, you don't need to piss on the rising ones for taking their first steps. 40 years from now when they're mining asteroids and outsourcing their cheap crap to the USA, they might come back and rub your nose in it.

  • Old Dan Quayle joke (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Vice President Quayle declared that the US should be the first nation to complete a manned space to the Sun.

  • Im playing KSP, and I know it is damn hard to get to the sun^W^Wkerbol, even with infinite fuel enabled!

  • I hope they're planning on going at night!

    • LOL!
      That's a fascinating read.

      A 4 hour filight to the sun(at night, to avoid being burned up!), landed and collected sunspot samples to bring back for the Supreme Leader, and back home by 9:00 P.M. in bed for school the next day...all by a 17 year old boy/astronaut.

      Truly remarkable!

      The best our youth(USA) can do is cost their fathers $80,000 by posting crap on facebook...sad, really. ;-)

    • Thank you! I was going to post that if nobody else had.

      Unfortunately it's a "hoax" story, from a site like TheOnion.com, but it's pretty convincing. ;-)

  • A Third-World country of religious crazies who have nuclear weapons announcing that they're pushing ahead with advanced missile - oops, did I say that? I mean "payload delivery system" development.

    What's not to like?

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by Chrisq ( 894406 )

      A Third-World country of religious crazies who have nuclear weapons announcing that they're pushing ahead with advanced missile

      This is India not Pakistan. The government is strongly secular. If you are referring to some elements of the population, well the same description could cover America.

    • Before you wrap up in the flag and sing about how much better your country is than theirs it may be worth noticing that their economy is growing and they don't have nearly half their elected officials trying to sabotage it so they can blame it on the half that is currently in charge.

  • I hope they will do the needful to make sure probe can kindly revert with gathered data.

    On serious note, what does it mean that "mission would be around Earth"? Are we talking about some small sattelite orbiting Earth, which happens to have lenses directed at Sun? And this is "Mission to Probe Sun"? In such case, Hubble telescope was a mission to probe thousands of galaxies and millions of starts...

  • if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
  • -- Smashmouth Now, If I were the Sun, I'd be upset by an alien probe.

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