Hurricane Sandy Nears East Coast 281
An anonymous reader writes "Scientists have been following and projecting Sandy's path with all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also gathers information from special reconnaissance aircraft, which fly over hurricanes and can drop instruments into them to measure wind speeds, air pressure, temperature, and altitude. The latest data gathered on Hurricane Sandy point to an unprecedented and mighty tempest, scientists say." A couple of our East Coast offices are closed today and people have been told to work from home. Please share your storm stories, and updates while you still have internet access.
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Don't PANIC! (Score:5, Funny)
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God dammit, Towelie, you're the worst character ever.
Re:Don't PANIC! (Score:4, Funny)
Don't panic, it's HHGTG, not South Park.
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We all know this is a sneaky plot from the Romney camp to disenfranchise liberal voters by sending a massive 1000 mile storm in their path. Huff Post and Daily KOS told me so!
In all seriousness, if a storm does do significant damage to an area right before/at an election, what do we do? Is this a constitutional crises?
Re:Don't PANIC! (Score:5, Funny)
I realize you're making a joke, but do you realize that at least one right-wing radio talking head is accusing President Obama of "seeding" Hurricane Sandy using (you knew it was coming, didn't you) HAARP?
I'm not going to promote this turd, so you can find out who's making this accusation yourself if you are so inclined.
So, if you're going to make a sarcastic comment about someone probably accusing someone of a plot to disenfranchise the electorate, you better make sure that someone on your side hasn't already done it.
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And I'm sure I can find at least one person on the left who has made the same claim about Romney, which would actually make more sense (in crazy-logic-world) given that, you know, the east coast tends to have more liberal voters than conservative ones. Can we just agree to ignore the crazy people, instead of trying to claim the other side is crazier or made crazy claims first? Please?
Ah no, I guess we can't, crazy people make for such great news and even better demagoguery.
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Re:Don't PANIC! (Score:5, Informative)
OK, please do. Find someone on "the left" with a national profile who has said this.
I'll wait here.
See, this "both sides do it" equivalency is false. It's always been false.
No, we cannot ignore the crazy people, because voters on one side of the political spectrum are electing them to office in large numbers.
It makes it harder to ignore someone when they are a member of the House of Representatives and sitting on a major committee.
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You assume I have a side which is a fair to do, but inaccurate. To make the joke less funny, since I have to explain it, the reason I chose Romney as the supposed cause of the storm and cries of disenfranchisement coming from the left is that it is more common to hear the left make arguments that the right somehow prevents the left from voting rather than the other way around. I'm not saying if they're correct or incorrect in their assessment, but they do make that complaint more. Combine that with the f
Re:Don't PANIC! (Score:4, Interesting)
I want to point out just how intellectually dishonest and morally questionable the very common argument that gameboyhippo is making actually is.
When you have voters being disenfranchised, these people in the "center" who are saying "Oh look, the people being disenfranchised are complaining about being disenfranchised. They're such crybabies" become a double-insult to those people. These are not hypotheticals. There is no "question" about whether there are organized attempts at voter suppression by the Right. There are people, today, in this country who are being prevented from voting in a carefully planned and executed strategy. People who are being registered to vote by Nathan Sproul for the Republican Party who are then having the addresses on their registration form changed so that when they show up to vote they will be required to cast a provisional ballot (which will not be counted). Hundreds of voter registration forms showing up in dumpsters. People in states where the Supreme Court said there can be no voter ID requirement being told that they will go to jail if they try to vote without an ID. Official government notices going to potentially Democratic voters from Republican government officials telling them to vote on November 8 when the election is on November 6.
And you're joking about how these people being disenfranchised are a bunch of whiners.
I do assume that you have "a side". You are on the side of the kind of civic cynicism that is poisonous to a society. Whether you meant to or not, you endorse a kind of zombie conventional wisdom that is hurting people. Not hypothetical people, but actual human beings.
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I love it when they beg.
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It is up to the state to prepare and make plans for such things...but it won't stop the election and keep the other states from turning in their votes.
But seriously, I'm thinking "Sandy" is being way overblown (no pun intended), this is a WEAK cat. 1 storm.
I live in New Orleans, and most people don't bother to leave for a storm this weak in intensity.
Don't get
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I'm sure it will somehow take AWS down :)
As a DC area resident who works in Reston (where Amazon's servers are), signs point to YES. Especially since DC area residents have already settled into "PANIC!" mode which includes posting on Facebook on how everybody is going to die and how the Mayans were right, buying every roll of toilet paper and every tube of pimple cream in the grocery store, filling their Viagra prescriptions so they can die happy, hiding in their basements, and emerging 2 days later asking "Why was everybody panicking?" This proce
Wall St. Closed (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Wall St. Closed (Score:5, Informative)
Wall Street might be closed but the Wall Street Journal is open however. Both they and the NYT have removed their pay walls for the duration of the storm
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/193261/new-york-times-to-suspend-paywall-for-hurricane-sandy/ [poynter.org]
Re:Wall St. Closed (Score:5, Funny)
In unrelated news, the crime rate in New York is down dramatically today, as the number of frauds committed dropped dramatically.
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North of Baltimore (roughly) hurricanes coming onshore are pretty rare... But if you're not prepared/built for it, even a Class I hurricane can handle you pretty roughly.
Re:Wall St. Closed (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly. Imagine the mess South Florida would have if a freak winter storm dumped 2 inches of real mid-afternoon snow on downtown Miami and the surrounding 3 counties, and it kept coming down all night so that we woke up the next morning to a city where every road was impassable to anything less than a SUV or truck, seriously dangerous regardless, and every vehicle that was outside overnight had ice crusted over the windshield wipers. We'd have people getting electrocuted trying to melt ice on the windshield with blow dryers (until the weight of the ice caused the power lines to fall down), and I shudder to imagine the carnage on I-95 and 836 when drivers who can't even avoid accidents during afternoon rainstorms suddenly had to deal with ICE.
A category 1 hurricane making landfall in South Florida is like a "Snow Day" in Cleveland or Buffalo -- work from home today, limp and tipetoe around tomorrow, life as normal on day 3. An afternoon snowstorm that persists into the night would shut down South Florida for almost a week, and probably cause more deaths than a landfalling hurricane.
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Ollie Williams reports (Score:5, Funny)
It's raining sideways! [youtube.com]
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That's normal in a hurricane. [slashdot.org] If you want to know what's scarier, a hurricane or a tornado, the above link is a first-hand account of both.
Prepared (Score:5, Funny)
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a 24 pack of Corona.
Store already sold out of bottled water, huh?
Re:Prepared (Score:5, Funny)
Yes, all they have is canned water (aka Bud Light)
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a 24 pack of Corona.
Store already sold out of bottled water, huh?
But still stocked with canned water, apparently.
Re:Prepared (Score:4, Insightful)
a 24 pack of Corona
Granted, Corona is pretty reliable, but aren't cyanide capsules a more humane way of dispatching oneself?
Technology zilch compared to nature (Score:4, Insightful)
all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling.
At times like these, the only technology is that which helps in mass exodus, plain and simple values like sharing and caring; and them coming back to pick up the pieces all over again.
Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know about the rest of the world, but in North America we'd pretty much have to move the entire population of Mexico, the US and southern Canada up into the Canadian Shield [wikipedia.org]. Trying to move close to half a billion people into north-east Canada would be a logistics and economic nightmare, and i'm pretty sure the kinds of moves that would be required in other parts of the world would be equally drastic.
Realistically, if we don't want to pack all of humanity into tiny fractions of the earth's surface, we have to accept that almost everywhere people live is going to be subject to the occasional natural disaster. Yes, we should avoid the _worst_ areas and/or have contingency plans for those spots, but we're not going to be able to avoid everything.
and the band played on. (Score:4, Insightful)
Since most of my family is up in that part of the nation, thru are getting the for measure of fright. but for the NY and Maryland regions, this is more about the water. Manhattan will be in a position similar to NO, except no river, just storm surge, and not as many pumps.
And sustained wind.
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I wish I knew. Apparently it's quite insightful.
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In New York City (Score:5, Informative)
If you're working from home... (Score:5, Funny)
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My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home,.
So we can expect more posts to slashdot today?
No work? (Score:5, Interesting)
I live in south Alabama, we get plenty of hurricanes. I have to drive across Mobile Bay in order to get to work. Unless there is over 100mph winds, I have to go to work. I work in an office, punching buttons on a computer. The company that I work for has a main office in the effected area of this storm, and although the storm is still waaaay the fuck out in the Atlantic ocean (yes, it's waaay the fuck out since it's only 85mph winds), we get word that the main office is closing Monday (we got word on this Friday). I have never understood the mindset behind who I work for. I think a better question would be, "What is considered dangerous-enough weather to close an office?" Because here recently I had to drive across 7 miles of open water in over 100mph gusts, and many roads were closed due to flooding during hurricane Isaac.
Re:No work? (Score:4, Insightful)
I hear you. The elements that you have to face is different than what senior management is willing to face. Two sets of rules. They don't mind putting you in harm's way while they spend the day at home watching Sportcenter.
Can't ask your manager for remote access to your terminal and/or tools?
DR Plan (Score:2)
Sell working from home as part of a disaster preparedness plan. Ensure employees *can* work from home in case the head office loses power or floods. Ensure there's a secondary datacenter for core services too of course.
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I live in Utah, where we regularly get snow. We almost never close schools because of the weather, and I can think of exactly one time in my adult life when work was called off early due to snow (and that event fizzled into nothing).
In Texas, when they get even half an inch of snow, everything shuts down!
The point being that we are much more well equipped to deal with that kind of weather event here in Utah than they are in Texas. I imagine some of the same is in play in your situation.
See what happens? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:See what happens? (Score:5, Funny)
Well, all that hot air can evaporate a lot of water.
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Re:See what happens? (Score:4, Interesting)
It's the same everywhere really. Not a single snowflake can fall on Greater London without half the British press running a story about it, meanwhile in the North of England and Scotland, it could be 10 feet of snow and the media wouldn't even blink an eye. It's all about perspective, and the world experience of a journalist stuck working in a dingy skyscraper all day is very limited.
Re:See what happens? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.
Do you realize how many people live in that area? And, OK, it is 'only' a Category 1 storm, so the most likely effects (away from the coast) is power outages. Except that when the entire mid-Atantic and Northeast regions are covered, there is no help available from neighboring states.
And, oh yeah, the storm surge at NYC is supposed to be 'only' 8 to 11 feet - which has happened never before. Since much of NYCs infrastructure is underground (including, of course, the subways), this is a big deal, regardless of the category of the storm or what similar storms have done elsewhere.
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It really does not take all that much wind or snow load to cause lots power outages. What the utility companies usually do is loan each other extra crews before big weather events. Lots of that has been going on this time naturally.
The challenge of this storm will be predicting where most of the damage will happen because of its size and actually having the crews near that epicenter of the damage (not always where the epicenter of the storm happens to go) because of its size. If the damage is spread over
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Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.
Yup, it's a good example of quantity having a quality all it's own. Although the local damage will likely be mild compared to famous storms of the past, it will be applied over a huge area, resulting in a very large $ figure when it is finished.
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Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.
So, in other words, it's not that different than the winter storms we regularly get out here in the Montana, Nebraska, North/South Dakota, Minnesota regions of the country where we'll have 2-4 days of gale force winds, blowing ice and/or snow, zero visibility, and 15' drifts at regular intervals? You know, the ones we'll sometimes have 2-3 times a winter.
The only really significant thing about this, IMO, is the storm surge. That's pretty damn bad. It's basically a "New Orleans diagnosis" except there's noth
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And again, your comparisons are meaningless. First, if you are in an area that gets certain kind of weather 'regularly', the same weather is going to affect those areas differently than in areas that don't get that kind of weather. For instance, if you are in an area that regularly gets gale-force winds for days at a time, you are not going to have a lot of trees that lose their limbs or fall over in gale force winds.
I seem to recall seeing a lot of news reports about drought in those states you mentioned
Re:See what happens? (Score:4, Insightful)
Thanks for injecting some common sense. Slashdotters usually like to sneer at the masses and call it "common sense", but in this case common sense means being prepared.
The sheer extent of the storm will mean a massive impact. Emergency responders can only work as fast as they can work. The expected number of power outages will mean that linesmen just can't fix them all in a timely manner.
Philadelphia International Airport has shut down. PHL is the 12th busiest airport in the world. That's a simply huge impact considering the number of people who would ordinarily pass through the area on a given weekday, and the financial losses. It's not a decision they'd make lightly (and an airport has their own very sophisticated weather monitoring and analysis stations).
Margate, NJ, was already flooded this morning, and the storm has barely even started. It's both massive and slow moving, so it'll be hanging around for ages as it's dumping rain on us.
Here's Red Hook, Brooklyn [twitter.com], and that's just the beginning.
Here's more, courtesy of NY Times. [nytimes.com] They've opened their paywall. Scroll down and have a look at the pictures and remember it's barely started yet.
Re:See what happens? (Score:4, Informative)
And since you live on a tropical island with an average of 28 storms a year, you probably have very few large trees that will fall over (on power lines, houses, and roads) or have limbs that will fall off. How would your tropical island fare if suddenly two feet of snow fell on it? Happens all the time here.
And here's a little geography lesson: the people expected to be impacted from this storm are not 'on the coast' - they are hundeds of miles inland.
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Agree there's too much crying wolf but the actual numbers are pretty bad. Here is an analysis of why the predicted 11 foot tide at the Battery in lower Manhattan is bad news for the subway: http://kottke.org/12/10/hurricane-sandy-comin [kottke.org] The alarms have been indiscriminate though, so there is a lot of noise in the signal. The recent eagerness to close the subway is particularly irksome. The "officials" would never close a large road system because in 24 hours it would be covered in seawater. The people making
Sandy is Wendy (Score:2)
Could be worse, HMS Bounty (Score:5, Interesting)
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Given that we've had days notice of this storm - what damm fool ordered her out into it?
Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty (Score:5, Informative)
Docked in port is often more dangerous, to the ship at least. This storm came in on a wide hook so it would have been hard to pick a time to leave, assuming they were ready to go when the first warnings came.
Sandy, the Fireworks are hailing over little Eden (Score:2)
Mean while, the mummified corpse that is the Southeast continues its slow, unexciting evaporation into oblivion. Compared to the wham bam thank you ma'am of a storm like Sandy, us here in the south maintain a steady relationship with death by dehydration. Nothing to see here folks, just move along (sigh). I mean, compared to a pounding shore line backdropped by winded swept spume, how boring is reporting from a dried up hay field, or hard-packed pasture with nothing but an empty lake in the back ground.
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Snowfall (Score:5, Interesting)
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Not all that unusual. We have a circular supercell during the winter out here in the upper Midwest with considerable regularity. "Hurricane force winds" is commonly stated, and not always associated with a circular supercell. It's just common.
Storm Story (Score:2)
Super hyped???? (Score:5, Informative)
In 1992, when I was in Connecticut, they hyped a nor'easter. It was to be the worst thing since Hurricane Gloria. It came, it fizzled, it was a little more windy than normal. But seriously, didn't even make me blink. It was hyped the same way Sandy is being hyped.
Two weeks later another nor'easter approached. The embarrassed media downplayed it. This second storm turned out to be everything the first one wasn't. My school was evacuated. Boats were floating down the road. The pier was 18" under water.
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My fear is this will fizzle. And then, in a month or so we'll have another storm, and that will be the one that devestates.
Super hyped? Nope. It's the real deal. (Score:3)
Several things about this storm make it "huge", but the most important is that it is, literally, *huge*. The wind speed may not be high compared to hurricanes that routinely cut across Florida, but the sheer geographic scope of the thing is astonishing -- nearly a *thousand* miles across. You could line up two Floridas on a line from the Keys to the Panhandle and *two* would fit in the diameter of this storm. What this means is that many places that might have dodged the bullet of past hurricanes moving up
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Google's Crisis Map (Score:2)
KSR FTW (Score:2)
I'm listening to an audiobook version of Kim Stanley Robinson's AGW novel 40 Signs of Rain, published in 2004; towards the end Washington DC is flooded by Tropical Storm Sandy. Who says SF writers can't predict the future?
Oblig (can't believe this isn't here yet!) XKCD (Score:2)
xkcd: Epsilon and Zeta [xkcd.com]
One paywall drops (Score:2)
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An unprecedented and mighty tempest? This is a category 1 hurricane. Since the scale goes up to 5, I think it's safe to say this isn't unprecedented, unless you expect me to believe a hurricane has never hit the eastern seaboard. And don't give me that superstorm nonsense, we've had big snowstorms on the eastern seaboard before. There's nothing unprecedented about it, big storms hit the eastern seaboard every once in a while.
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That's the wind speed. And you are correct: Its not a big deal.
But the size of the storm is going to increase the storm surge. Add to this the full moon tide (spring tide) and sea levels are going to rise quite a bit.
Now figure the added time that a storm this size will dwell over land, dropping more precipitation. The inland flooding will be bad. Worse yet due to rivers' inability to flow as well against the extra high tide.
Utter CHAOS in Upstate New York Already! (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, wait. It's just Monday. This happens every Monday here. And Tuesday, and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Move along, nothing to see here.
Sandy Cheeks to Visit NYC! (Score:2)
Sims (Score:3)
I've been pretty impressed by the accuracy of the storm track predictions at least so far. The influence of other weather patterns on the the storm is pretty complex this time, and fairly unusual.
Yet the simulations seem to have been very accurate in predicting what looks like a fairly complex pattern.
The Beginning of the End (Score:4, Funny)
Wednesday, October 31, 2012. RIP USA. In hindsight, it all should have been obvious three days earlier. That would have been early enough to have prevented it - the shockingly abrupt and utter destruction of the Unites States of America.
On Sunday (that innocent Sunday just before the end of our world), the events on opposite sides of the country seemed natural, coincidental. The Frankenstorm that Sandy was about to become was just another prediction made by a bunch of self-anointed experts. No biggie, New Jersey could use a good scrubbing. A couple. And the earthquake off Alaska was only about as big as the one we had here in New England last week. Meh. The tsunami that hit Hawaii was measured at nearly half an inch. Not even worth a âoemeh.â
Most people watching the northeast were anticipating a couple days of storm, a week of cleanup, a bunch of bitching about damage, but employment would have went up in a hurry with all the rebuilding and repairs. One of the Presidential canditates would have made it a central theme of his last campaign week â" The Reconstruction of America. The country would come together, mostly, in a national unity of rebuilding. Spirits and the economy would have soared, the elections turning into a catastrophe for one of the major political parties. But none of that happened, it's just the ravings of a lunatic refugee. A refugee with a goatee. Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!!!!! Sorry, I've had a rough three days.
The Chinese have been doing large-scale meteorological experiments for many years. They were open about their efforts to control the weather for the 2012 Olympics in the Beijing area. There have been articles published in legal and even mass-market periodicals about the scientific, legal and ethical implications of such research have been debated. It wasn't something unknown to the general public. On the other hand, nobody except a few graduate professors and pharmaceutical chemists noticed the paper in the April issue of Chem. Phys. Acta. entitled âoeRacemization of Novel Isotopes of Mercaptothionitrite.â
The Alaska earthquake (5.5 Richters) on Sunday caused a mass evacuation of Waikiki and other populated regions of the islands. An overabundance of caution maybe, or maybe a proper abundance of caution. Who knows? It's a statistical thing, so I'll get back to you every Sigma, just like with bosons. How many you want? Three? Four? Five? How much time you got? I got lotsa Sigmas.
The Vancouver quake on Monday, however, took people by surprise. It was huge, over 9 R, one of the largest quakes ever recorded. Plus, it was a diagonal slip-shear transfer fault. Fortunately, these are extremely rare, and nearly always found in the deep ocean. A series of tsunamis emanating from the quake bounced around the Puget Sound, creating dozens of transitory superharmonic tsunamis over 100 feet high that pretty much created a brand new coastline, mostly devoid of structure or vegetation underneath all the wreckage. But that's getting ahead.
Nobody paid much attention either to a page 6 story from a supermarket tabloid about a school in India that mysteriously disappeared. The magazine had actually come out in June and was really only a paragraph without many details beyond name of the local region. But somebody did pay attention, and using Google Maps found that in every recent satellite photo of the named region, there was a nearly circular region that was blurred out. In archived photos, however, there was a small town (~75,000 folks) at the location. Somebody pointed this out on Slashdot, and several experts quickly came on to say that they didn't think the photos had been edited. The pictures showed what was actually there. Well, that did it, suddenly a thousand geeks, shut-ins, hackers and conspiracy theorists had a race/joint project/contest, and the story was quickly put together.
A former pharmaceutical chemist from Bangalore had retired inland, and was running an informal school for recent college gr
Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (Score:5, Insightful)
It doesn't take long for the second guessers to arrive, does it?
Sometimes they even show up too early.
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Extreme combo of crying wolf and actual superlatives. The reliably sober NOAA is cited by Reuters, "It could be the largest storm to hit the United States." Its official NWS prediction is for a "major to historic" NYC flood. On the other hand, NYC has stranded million of subway riders 24 hrs. ahead of the predicted surge. Here on the edge of the storm in Virginia, the university that used to pride itself on never cancelling classes has indeed cancelled because parents can't work because the grade schools ar
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/23/italian-scientists-charged-laquila-earthquake?newsfeed=true [guardian.co.uk]
Doesn't anyone remember this story? There is a reason they overstate it. If they understate and lots of people die, then they are going to be bitched at. If they overstate it, and you get a gentle fall rain, everybody is going to bitch about, but at least a lynch mob won't be out for their heads.
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The U.S. National Weather Service seems careful not to overstate. Then again, few people seem to even understand the difference between a Watch and a Warning. For this storm there is an oddball bureaucratic classification thing keeping the NWS's Hurricane Center from posting tropical warnings north of North Carolina. Kinda amusing... it's a PDF at the top of the Hurricane page... http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [noaa.gov] They are handing off to local offices and two more obscure divisions mid-storm: http://www.hpc.ncep.noa [noaa.gov]
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I've been in VA for about two decades now (central VA - Chesterfield and Richmond). Pretty much every year or two, there's a hurricane that knocks out power for a few days.
The worst was Hurricane Isabel. After that, I didn't have mains power for a month (thank god for generators). Schools were closed for weeks. Four different trees - big trees, three stories high - fell over just in my yard, and that got off pretty light compared to some of my neighbors. Last year, Irene knocked out power for five days.
So y
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Re:divine punishment (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, it could be spun for or against either candidate.
That's the problem with self-styled religious oracles claiming omens, it's always down to their personal agenda and there's nothing divine about that. The simple truth is that shit happens and the universe is indifferent.
cause and effect (Score:5, Interesting)
It isn't so much a religious omen as a lesson in scientific cause and effect. Neither of the top two presidential candidates has been talking much lately about what's causing this sort of thing, but one of them (Romney) is promising not to do anything about it. If you can make it to the polls, keep that in mind.
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There's no global warming equivalent for earthquakes.
Except there is. Rising sea levels and changes in precipitation patterns can both alter the loading on faults, and even small changes that way can have big effects through triggering earthquakes and volcanoes (dependent on the local geology, of course). On the other hand, it's very hard to say for sure what the effects will be; you can't predict the size of earthquakes this way, nor the violence of volcanic eruptions. All we can really say is that altering the loading due to water, whether seawater or in an
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Even climate scientists will tell you that there is no way to prove this is a result of AGW - nor is it even agreed upon as a potential result of AGW (increased warming increases wind shear which may actually *decrease* the number of hurricanes - but those which do happen may be stronger - it's unsettled).
no its mitt romney health care plan that sick kids (Score:2, Insightful)
no its mitt romney health care plan that under sick kids can get blacked listed for life and for his link to Richard Mourdock views on RAPE.
Re:divine punishment (Score:5, Funny)
No, we're being rewarded by having very mild storms compared to many of the other planets in our solar system.
Re:divine punishment (Score:4, Funny)
What's the weather like on Kolob?
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Democracy at its finest. Everybody gets pummeled.
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I can see the beach from this spot BRING IT ON !!! (Score:2)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=256935417762004&set=a.243402332448646.53482.100003366424039&type=1&theater [facebook.com]
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