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Glimpse of Stephen Hawking's Computer 146
kenekaplan writes "Intel application engineer Travis Bonifield has been working closely with Hawking to communicate with the world for a decade. He's traveled from the United States to England every few years to hand-deliver Hawking a customized PC. Bonifield talks about the technology that powers the customized system."
Hawking's latest machine is a Thinkpad x220. Lately he's been trouble speaking due to weakened cheek muscles (down to one word per minute). New Scientist has a brief interview with Hawking's outgoing technician on the challenges he faced. It turns out Hawking is still using a DECtalk (despite some reports suggesting otherwise).
DECtalk (Score:5, Funny)
With a cat for scale. That's it, Wikipedia, we're through.
Re:DECtalk (Score:5, Funny)
You'd rather the cat be in a box?
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He'd rather the world be bereft of humour
Re:DECtalk (Score:5, Funny)
Nice try, Schrodinger.
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Please, there are kids reading this site!
There's no "cat" in a "box", it's a thinkpad! (*)
(*) keyboard may contain a nipple.
Re:DECtalk (Score:4, Funny)
Neither dead nor alive! it is undead I tell you! UNDEAD cats roam the land!!!
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See I saw that and I thought you know from now on any time I need to show scale in a photo I think I'll use my cat
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Humor. You don't have it.
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According to the image description on Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] it was a "convenient cat". Maybe the photographer forgot the ruler or whatever he originally meant to use for scale.
Re:DECtalk (Score:5, Funny)
Without knowing whether it's an imperial or metric cat it's completely useless, though.
Re:DECtalk (Score:4, Funny)
Cats rule so it would have to be imperial.
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Maybe the photographer forgot the ruler or whatever he originally meant to use for scale.
...or maybe he just thought it would be fun [wikipedia.org].
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Have you noticed that the cat in the picture has a penis on its face?
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Re:DECtalk (Score:5, Funny)
No, he's right- a cat makes a terrible scale. It only tells you if you're heavy enough to squish a cat.
Re:DECtalk (Score:5, Funny)
It only tells you if you're heavy enough to squish a cat.
I find it useful to determine if a room is large enough to swing a cat.
Re:DECtalk (Score:4, Informative)
Careful, there. Five out of six ends of a cat are sharp.
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Since this is from Digital, they clearly should have used a PDP-10 for scale.
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It was probably unplugged just before the photo was taken. Everyone knows that cats love sitting on top of warm things.
Heck , when I was a kid, we had a cat that would rest on top of the dog!
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He identifies with the voice now (Score:5, Insightful)
So why the surprise that he still uses the DECTalk?
In this case if it is broke then someone probably will fix it.
Re:He identifies with the voice now (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:He identifies with the voice now (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:He identifies with the voice now (Score:5, Insightful)
I read an article where he said he takes the robotic voice very personally, he regards it as his voice.
He's a geek so wants the real thing, not some stupid software emulation. What's the fun of a wheelchair if you can't strap loads of wires and circuit boards to it?
Re:He identifies with the voice now (Score:5, Insightful)
I read an article where he said he takes the robotic voice very personally, he regards it as his voice.
He's a geek so wants the real thing, not some stupid software emulation.
The first thing that instantly struck me is its rather like women and their rack. Some fraction love the idea of an upgrade, some hate the idea of an upgrade, but the feature that makes it most like the female chest situation is that Everybody Seems to Have A Strong Opinion about what upgrade strategy, if any, is best, and all the women I've talked to about that topic pretty much want all the folks with opinions one way or another to F off and when they want an opinion they'll darn well ask for it first.
The other interesting thing Ive not considered is the legal / financial / employment minefield of whoever is the "new voice of Hawking" is absolutely going to advertise that, and he might not be cool with getting into that whole scene. So on one hand he should get money, on the other hand he doesn't need money, on the other hand the money would be coming from his fellow sufferers so that would make him a jerk, on the other hand he could donate his endorsement money to a charity, but what if the device he signs the contract for sucks and he wants to switch back, but if he doesn't sign an endorsement contract he's basically pulling money out of a charity, I can see a guy just saying F-it forget about the whole topic now back to black hole thermodynamics.
The final part is /. and IT in general are populated by noobs who think nothing of upgrading because they've only been in the game 2 years so whats one upgrade during an entire lifetime? But he's pretty much in it for life, and I know from personal experience that when you can skip upgrade cycles, you're best off doing so if at all possible. Sometimes not possible. At work I do not scrap the old gear and spec out an entirely new amplifier line solely because one corporation released one new microwave RF transistor today (and someone will release another next week, repeat into the indefinite future). I can totally see the guy saying there is no point in upgrading every time something new is released and therefore living life as a perma-noob, especially if the performance gain is minor. I'm sure the world would rather have him thinking about physics than endlessly re-learning this months new synth release.
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I can see a guy just saying F-it forget about the whole topic now back to black hole thermodynamics.
Why does everything have to go back to GOATSE with you people?
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I just care if mine can handle my all the pieces of my computer and won't melt them while operating.
Also, I think there's a request for colo space joke lurking around in here somewhere.
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What's the fun of a wheelchair if you can't strap loads of wires and circuit boards to it?
Bashing in to people, then waiting for them to apologise. That must be a giggle.
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+1 Funny.
Sorry, no mod points right now, so I just said it.
Re:He identifies with the voice now (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually, that statement says nothing about whether he's a geek or not. It only states he does not want the voice changed; i.e. the audio coming out of some speaker. He says nothing about what hardware of software that should be used.
Judging from his attitude towards switching control mechanisms, I'd say he's anything but a nerd; he seems to prefer stability/reliability above all else. Logical, considering without controls, he's effectively a vegetable.
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Yes it *could* be replaced with software. Probably sound exactly the same. However think about this.
You buy a bit of kit for say 4500 in 1980ish. It works does exactly what you want (it talks). You know exactly how to use it. It integrates into your system. It may have bugs but you know how to work around them. It is a sunk cost with both time and money.
Now lets upgrade.
You buy another bit of kit for say 500.. It works does exactly what you want (it talks). You need to relearn how to use it (probab
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Agreed. What Mr Hawing (Sir Hawking, would be more appropriate because I think he should be knighted if not already) needs is a solid system which conforms to his needs. This is a person who cares not what the age is of the technology, he just needs it to work.
Although Mr Hawking has special needs I think those of us who are developers (me included) need to consider what he has gained and lost in certain upgrades and pass the results of studying that on to our own users. Sure, we don't need to support users
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It's obsolete because it's clearly not an iPhone.
One word a minute (Score:5, Insightful)
At one word a minute, you get to really think about what you are gonna say.
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Re:One word a minute (Score:5, Informative)
There are, but if you read the article, his problem is learning curve and the fact that if he's disconnected from the working machine and something is wrong, he can't call for help.
I really suggest reading the articles linked. They are far more interesting then average stuff you get on slashdot and it answers a lot of questions as to "why is he still using this dated stuff". Especially the part that notes that when someone pitching a new system is in the room, Hawking's talking speed goes up because of his competitiveness and stubbornness.
Re:One word a minute (Score:5, Funny)
A brilliant theoretical physicist cannot learn a new (arguably easier) technology over a ten year period, yet alone flourish?
Have you ever seen a professor trying to turn on a projector?
Re:One word a minute (Score:5, Informative)
Funny my ass dear mods. That's about as informative as it will ever get on slashdot!
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If an education is about how to learn, the professor should be better able to turn the projector on than the technician.
Re:One word a minute (Score:5, Insightful)
A very smart guy whom could average a few words a minute jumped at the concept of switching architectures on the suggestion of an industry shill at a conference?
What? You appear to have read the article but completely missed some really important pieces of the puzzle. Here,
Stephen and Gordon met at a conference around 1997. Gordon noted that Stephen was using an AMD machine. Gordon asked Stephen, "Would you like to use an Intel computer moving forward? We'd be happy to build that for you and support it."
The article makes it very clear that the Gordon in that sentence is Gordon Moore. You know, of Moore's law fame. One of the guys who started Intel the first place. Calling Moore an industry Shill is like saying Gates shilled for Microsoft or Jobs shilled for Apple.
The article is just some guy's anecdote. Don't get so worked up.
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the concept of switching architectures
AMD and intel have the same instruction set architectures. Yeah the internal microarchitecture is different but then that is also true of different generations from the same vendor and it doesm't really matter for the user.
jumped at the concept of switching architectures on the suggestion of an industry shill at a conference?
It sounds like intel offered to give him a new* and better computer do the work of upgrading him to said better computer (which is probablly quite considerable given the system built for him arround it) and then support that computer afterwards for free. I'm not surprised he took the offe
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Re:One word a minute (Score:5, Funny)
DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:5, Insightful)
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What hate? I don't see any hate. Nobody has posted anything negative about DECTalk. I don't think asking why someone uses a 30 year old electronic device when newer and therefore likely more capable options exist is hate. Actually I'd be really interested to hear some reasons. Are the technical considerations as well as peference here? Does DECTalk posses some unique quality that is not easily replicated?
Re:DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:5, Insightful)
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He regards it as HIS voice.
Would you want somebody to replace your voice with 'something a bit more more modern'?
Re:DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:5, Funny)
Student: What if I integrate this term on the left here?
Hawking: I'm afraid you can't do that, Dave.
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He regards it as HIS voice.
Would you want somebody to replace your voice with 'something a bit more more modern'?
If it allows me to communicate at a significantly higher speed than earlier, then maybe.
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Oh hell yes,
I want http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapp_Brannigan [wikipedia.org] as my voice.
Or to sound like the movie phone guy all the time.
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There are three parts to the system, the controller (which has changed several times as his ALS has progressed), the interface which he is used to and can operate easily, and does much more than speech (it controls the chair, his home, Voip phone etc...) and the speech synthesiser which seems to be in two parts (software which is up to date, and the voice generator which is still the old hardware)
Updating the speech synth is impossible without changing the voice
the interface software is old, but he is use
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Would you want somebody to replace your voice with 'something a bit more more modern'?
Yes, please.
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Totally. Sean Connery with a dash of Dwane "The Rock" Johnson, please; that is my first request. Next, I'd like the ability to choose or mix voices as the mood arises. Arnold as The Terminator also comes to mind. Imagine if you could change voices on the fly... "F*** you, a**hole!" I'd personally put that on my answering machine for blocked CID numbers.
Wrong question (Score:5, Insightful)
"asking why someone uses a 30 year old electronic device when newer and therefore likely more capable options exist"
You should be asking - why someone WOULDN'T use a 30 year old device when it does everything they need it to do. Not everyone thinks upgrading for the sake of it is a worthwhile pursuit especially if its as critical as your only means to communicate.
Re:Wrong question (Score:5, Insightful)
From my experience.. the 30 year old device is built better, higher quality and will continue to operate for another 50 years. Unlike the utter crap that is available today that you will be lucky to keep working for 5 years.
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From my experience.. the 30 year old device is built better, higher quality and will continue to operate for another 50 years. Unlike the utter crap that is available today that you will be lucky to keep working for 5 years.
Confirmation bias ahoy!
There was *plenty* of crappy hardware back in the 70s/80s. It's just that the crappy stuff never lasted long enough for geeks like you and I to get all nostalgic about it.
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Modern devices are a lot more reliable, but picking the 30 year survivor in it's first month is not very easy.
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Check, and mate.
Keep your snarky self-congratulating to yourself.
My experience is that the older equipment tended to be more durable than modern glass-screened devices of today.
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Materials science has come a long way. That flimsy looking device can probably take quite a bit more of a beating than older devices in the same class. How about Gorilla Glass, did that exist back then? The problem with comparing older stuff to newer is selection bias, many times the 1% that are still working are seen, rather than the millions that broke.
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You should be asking - why someone WOULDN'T use a 30 year old device when it does everything they need it to do.
Talk about an unstated major premise!
"I don't get why you want to replace your beowulf cluster of Commodore 64's when they do everything you need them to do!"
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I just heard a podcast the other day, NPR's "Fresh Air", with author Kitty Ferguson about her new Stephen Hawking biography, "An Unfettered Mind". She supposedly spent a lot of personal time with him writing this book and says that it's mainly him being resistant to change, and insisting on not being helped during conversation, for example. One word per minute seems awful limiting, as does having to have someone push you everywhere in your wheelchair, which he had to do after being reduced to the one cheek
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You know I think we are forgetting that the guy is 70! What guy that age is happy about anything new.
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Duh, the recently divorced who want some arm candy, that's who.
Re:DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:5, Insightful)
Does DECTalk posses some unique quality that is not easily replicated?
It is Hawkings voice.
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Re:DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:5, Interesting)
Someone found recordings of his original voice and offered to build a voice around this, but Hawking said that he did not even recognise it as his own voice anymore ...
Re:DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:4, Interesting)
There's a company in Edinburgh that's doing the same thing with Roger Ebert, drawing on the large body of recordings of his voice. Wonder if it's the same one.
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It isn't a new thing. People have been using voice samples for speech synthesis for years now. It sounds more natural. The only new-ish thing here is getting those samples from recordings of normal speech rather than a dedicated session in a sound booth.
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The novelty in this case is that they're offering Ebert's voice to Ebert as a prosthesis.
Re:DecTalk is a warhorse (Score:4, Insightful)
The big difference between Ebert and hawkings situation is that ebert was only forced to use a speech synth fairly recently. So probablly more people are going to know him by his natural voice than by the synth he uses.
Hawking has been using that speech synth for many years and I strongly suspect more people know him by that voice than know him by his natural voice.
Same for everyone with recordings of their voice (Score:5, Insightful)
None of us really recognise our recorded voice as our own even though we know it is so I guess thats not much of a surprise especially given that 30 years has passed in his case too. I'd be interested to know what Hawkings internal voice in his head sounds like - is it his original voice or is it his speech synthesizer?
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the DEC talk is easily replicated. AT&T 's voice project has a version that sounds identical to a DEC talk.
It's called, when you have a genius that wants what he wants, you give him what he wants.
Typo in summary (Score:5, Funny)
Lately he's been trouble speaking due to weakened cheek muscles (down to one word per minute).
I see Slashdot's come up with a simple solution that just involves skipping words that don't seem necessary :)
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Slashdot's ultimate goal is to have every summary be one word. It's a tribute to Hawking.
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Tommorows headlines:
Politics
Microsoft
iPad
China
Nuclear
Cat
Arguments in comment threads will continue much as they have, since few people read even the summary before wading into the flamewars. The only complaint they'll have tomorrow is not knowing whether to argue about nuclear power, or nuclear weapons, in the "Nuclear" story.
The most profound mystery in the Universe is ... (Score:5, Interesting)
From the Telegraph link, we happily learn:
In an interview with the New Scientist magazine to mark his 70th birthday on Sunday, January 8, he was asked: "What do you think most about during the day?" to which he replied: "Women. They are a complete mystery."
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This opens up a million (bad) quantum mechanics Heisenberg Uncertainty principle jokes.
Women, either you're drunk, or they don't make any sense, never both at the same time (which is closer to a pauli exclusionary principle joke I guess)
or
something to do with their emotional state being an unknown quantity until the wavefunction collapses?
In Hawkings honor, any black hole thermodynamics jokes? I'm thinking something along the lines of every time a male makes a mistake that information never escapes past th
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DEC flags (Score:2)
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your alternative is what, put the Apple flag on it?
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What about Dasher with eye control? (Score:2, Interesting)
I have often wondered whether Hawkins has ever tried using dasher.
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
Occurs to me it is ideal for people with very little or no physical mobility
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/SpecialNeeds.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yIquOKQ0
Just a thought....
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As I understand it, Hawking is limited to a single muscle effectively acting as a boolean switch.
Dasher, cool as it may be, requires more interaction than that.
I've tried Dasher years ago; the speed you can achieve is suprisingly high with a very short learning curve. Though I've never seen a practical application of it; it seems more like a proof-of-concept than an actual usable product.
US Customs, TSA (Score:3)
What does he do when US Customs decides to take his computer for a year of analysis? How the hell does he get by the TSA? Or is he just one of many influential people who avoid traveling to the USA?
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What does he do when US Customs decides to take his computer for a year of analysis? How the hell does he get by the TSA? Or is he just one of many influential people who avoid traveling to the USA?
Considering who he is, he could probably go about anywhere provided he is physically able,
and, i seem to remember an article here in the past few days of him floating in a space sim of some sort.
Usually this executive treatment in society sincerely pisses me off, but all things considered, provided
he doesn't go senile in his old age, i can't say i mind it.
My opinion.
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What does he do when US Customs decides to take his computer for a year of analysis? How the hell does he get by the TSA? Or is he just one of many influential people who avoid traveling to the USA?
They think he is their robotic overlord.
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Isn't it attached to his wheelchair? They would have to take both. I could just see them (stereotypical TSA goons) wheeling him to the curb on a rental luggage cart, then dumping him next to the bus lane for the 25 cent refund. Have they done that to anyone yet?
Re:US Customs, TSA (Score:4, Insightful)
Simple - don't fly on the mass transit passenger planes.. Private charter planes do not have to go through TSA check points.. So the real rich and government guys never even experience it..
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What does he do when US Customs decides to take his computer for a year of analysis?
Probably the same thing he does when a meteor hits his house. Nothing, since it's so rare that it's unlikely to happen in the average persons lifetime.
Speechfx still makes DECtalk RT available (Score:2)
The article says the company that made the synth is out of business, yet the wikipedia entry for DECtalk links to the company that owns the rights, and it looks like they still make an RT available for linux:
http://www.speechfxinc.com/dectalk_linux.php [speechfxinc.com]
Three stories... (Score:1)
Emotiv (Score:2)
windows?! (Score:2)
If a monkey can control (Score:2)
If a monkey can control a robotic arm with 7 degrees of freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnWSah4RD2E [youtube.com]
http://singularityhub.com/2010/06/12/monkey-controls-robot-arm-with-7-degrees-of-freedom-video/ [singularityhub.com]
http://www.physorg.com/news194796581.html [physorg.com]
you would think a brain implant would be a useful thing at this point for him. Yes it is a risk, but really, wouldn't it be worth it?