The Rain On Saturn Falls Mainly From Space 75
The Bad Astronomer writes "Astronomers have discovered that the source of water in Saturn's upper atmosphere is none other than the geysers erupting from its moon Enceladus. The geysers spew water into space, most of which is lost. A small amount, though, falls to Saturn... equivalent to only about 7.5 kilos/second over the entire planet (PDF). A typical rainfall on Earth is 42 trillion times heavier."
Space (Score:1)
Damn, that's cool..
Re:Space (Score:5, Interesting)
Could you imagine if Earth's moon was the source of rainfall? What kind of mythology/traditions would we have come up with from that!?
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Even today science would have trouble explaining how rain could originate from the Moon, which doesn't actually have much surface water on it... :p
Re:Space (Score:5, Funny)
Then your answer is no, you can't imagine what mythology/traditions would have arisen if rain came from the moon?
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Imagination is a lot harder than knowledge.
Re:Space (Score:5, Funny)
Imagination is a lot harder than knowledge.
I would imagine it is.
But I don't know. =/
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But what if it used to, and it all ended up raining on Earth?
Are you drinking moon water now?
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There've been 110 billion people on Earth. Average life about 60 years (being generous, really). 2.4e15 person-days. Say they each drank a liter of water a day, so it's the same number of liters filtered through kidneys.
The volume of Lake Superior is 1.2e16 liters.
And that's just Lake Superior. The volume of water on the whole planet is 1.3e21 liters.
Next time someone says "you're wasting water," tell them they're a sucker for factoids.
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As for the Judeo-Christian stuff... Well, I can't be sure, but I can tell you that it would be the cause of killing people.
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Yes, that bias makes your butt look big.
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If we had rain falling from the moon, different religions would have different
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> These days people kill and die for entirely different deities.
Mostly Mammon, I'd say, with Allah in a distant second place.
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If it were a regular occurrence, then it might be the metaphorical basis of a proverb; in the new testament, it might be compared to the human soul, in the old testament, it might contribute to defining criteria for telling a fool from a wise man. If it were an uncommon occurrence, then it might be a contributing phenomenon to a miracle performed by a prophet, i.e., one of the plagues on Egypt associated with Moses.
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I would not link to it either. I was disappointed as well. I expected a cool story about a constant rain of comets or something.
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Seriously, I'm not baiting here, but you're just not making any sense. How could anyone possibly gauge what would live up to your personal expectations? I'm a big fan of complaining, it's one of my favorite passtimes, but even I have some notion of when my complaint demands someth
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"I wish to make a complaint"
"We're closed"
About this here 'passtimes' wot I purchas-ed from this very boutique not one hour ago"
"Oh, the Nowegian passtimes? Very nice passtime. Lovely plumage."
"It's got one 's' too many"
I can't drag it along any further. But it was worth the effort. Perhaps.
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I could tolerate occasional outburst of idiocy from the marketing staff at ESA, but please spoon the constant outpoor of diarrhea from the bad astronomer yourself.
Then, after you finish up correcting your spelling AND grammar, could you please explain in simple declarative English just what the fuck you are doing posting in this discussion?
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successful troll is successful! But still a troll.
Re:How much is this in superdome volumes? (Score:5, Interesting)
Not to polish and buff your already obvious self importance and ability to scoff at this article, but to someone like myself, who isn't really into the technical aspects or astronomy and the physics behind it - articles such as this one (and many others on that chaps site) a simple layman explanation of something cool that is happening, or freshly discovered is a great source of infotainment.
/. isn't purely about having technical papers. You could link me the paper that was obviously published somewhere on this, and I probably wouldn't understand all the technical astrophysics mumbo jumbo in it, nor would I have time to read what was probably a couple dozen pages at the very least.
So, for me, thank you for posting a brief article, from a source that I can read and understand - and most importantly - still think to myself how space and the universe around us is a wonderful thing that always has a wonderful surprise around the next corner waiting to be discovered.
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I come here for the comments too, I swear.
Conservation. (Score:2)
This needs to be addressed, immediately. If the rain is coming from it's moon, then what will happen to all the whales?
Re:Conservation. (Score:4, Funny)
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I wish I had mod points for that.
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I for one would welcome our Jellyfish Overlords!
*salutes*
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Cultura for the Geeks (Score:1)
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Not every piece of crap spewed out of Hollywood counts as "culture" in better educated circles. In fact, none do.
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Self-important prick.
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Nice to meet you. I am Anonymous Coward.
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I think you used the term 'better educated circles' where you should have used 'elitist snobs'. There are plenty of 'better educated' people who enjoy movies, etc.
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"Elitist snobs" and "better educated" don't mean what you think they do.
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Wait, that title... (Score:4, Funny)
[Frederick Lowe orchestral music swells]
Professor Higgins (recitativo): by George she's go it!
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Dash it all! You beat me to it!
There, fixed that for you Col. Pickering.
Clarification of amounts (Score:1)
I had to go read the article to realize... The 42 trillion conclusion compares the average "rainfall" across the ENTIRE planet of Saturn, versus the amount of rainfall in a single area of steady rain on earth, at the rate of 1 inch per hour.
The average across the planet would be far far less, if we want to compare apples to kumquats.
"The Rain On Saturn Falls Mainly From Space" (Score:1)
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Wait for it, wait for it...
Its saucy limerick time!!!
When it rains on Saturn
Does it fall in a pattern?
Does it water the grass?
Or just dampen your ass?
Lets not forget the classic:
There once was a moon call Enceladus
who with a kind word reminds us
you can spew into space
or spew in her face.
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According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] 505.000 cubic kilometers of water falls on the earth every year.
This translates to 5.05x10^17 liters/year, or 16,013,444,951 liters/second, which is about 2 trillion times more than Venus, rather than 42x.
So... Typo on the part of the Summary?
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Not a Typo, found the paragraph in TFA where the author is calculating out the 42 trillion figure. He's starting from different figures, citing the amount of water that falls "During a heavy rainstorm," which is going to be much higher than "Typical rainfall."
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The rain on Saturn falls mainly from space (Score:1)
Damn! That doesn't even rhyme... What the hell is the matter with you people?
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What are "kilos"? The article never mentions them.
Wrong forum, kid. You should be asking this on Yahoo Answers.
makes sense (Score:2)
I guess on a terraforming planet, this would be the start of getting some real self sustaining atmosphere and biological movement.....next step would be single cell organisms appearing, and so on....might be the next earth in a few million years if the moon is able to sustain enough rainfall...
Rainbow moonbeams and orange snow (Score:2)
On Saturn, people live to be two hundred and five. Going back to Saturn, where the air is clean....
Anybody know what song this is from?