Two Elements Added To Periodic Table 138
smitty777 writes "Two new elements have been added to the periodic table of the elements. Elements 114 and 116 are the weightiest known, with atomic weights of 289 and 292 respectively. The discoverers are proposing flerovium and moscovium as names for these two new discoveries. There are also arguments being made to add in three more as well: 113, 115 and 118." We've noted element 114 in the past, but this is more official.
Weightiest (Score:1)
WTF is this?
whats wrong with heaviest
Re: (Score:2)
WTF is this?
whats wrong with heaviest
How do you spell potato, Mr. Quayle?
Re: (Score:2)
Lets call the whole thing off!
Re: (Score:3)
Stupid word. Especially since we're probably talking about mass anyway.
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:3)
Hint: These arguments might be why we don't get laid that much.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Wow. I thought the reply from weaselgrease was funny already, but your signature is hilarious.
I can't understand it.
It's like you want a wizardly (sorcerers don't need words) way to influence somebodies butthole.
I have this image of you in a basement with a cat performing "controlled studies" like a Wizard would do in some School of Magic.
Except, I don't think the butthole spell will be as popular as you think.
In any case, you are correct. It *IS* all aspects of our personalities. The fact you want to to
Re: (Score:2)
We should go to a bar together and see who gets laid first arguing about something.
Why do I get the feeling you are going to force a tie?
Re: (Score:1)
Knowledge embiggens even the smallest man
Re:Weightiest (Score:4, Insightful)
I agree, and what's more, the use of the term "weightiest" would be perfectly cromulent had we been discussing weight. However massiest would probably have been even cromulenter.
Re:Weightiest (Score:4, Informative)
Weightiest is a real word and the use is valid.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weightiest [merriam-webster.com] (2b)
Re: (Score:2)
Meh. Most dictionaries are written by a useless class of people called descriptivists who slavishly record every (mis)use of a word. If you used Humperdink like this: "The morning was Humperdink", they'd create an entry for it, no matter how wrong or stupid it is. Going to a dictionary for proof of a word's meaning or validity is like citing Wikipedia as a source.
This is why the ignorant and lazy misuse words like decimate and literally. Stupid person uses it incorrectly... stupid listener repeats it... s
Re: (Score:2)
The "heavy" is probably all worn out from the old "what's heavier, a ton of flerovium or a ton of moscovium?" joke and needed a day off.
Re: (Score:2)
It is more fun if you throw gold in the mixture. What is heavier, a ton of gold or a ton of ?
Gold is measured in Troy ounces, where 1 Troy Oz = 1.097 avoirdupois ounce. Thus, the gold is heavier.
Re:Weightiest (Score:5, Funny)
That only works if you (for some reason) insist on using the currency-based measure for gold, but not on all the other items.
That's retarded. One of the first things you do is ensure your units are consistent.
Re: (Score:2)
"That's retarded. One of the first things you do is ensure your units are consistent."
Yeah, that worked out real well for that Mars probe.
Re: (Score:1)
Bzzzt! There are 12 Troy ounces per Troy pound and 16 Avoirdupois ounces per Avoirdupois pound so a ton of anything measured in Avoirdupois is heavier than a ton of gold measure in Troy units.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
But .... as pictured Jumbonium is actually light enough to float. It's clearly the largest (visible to the naked eye), but that doesn't make it the heaviest. </nerd>
Element 115 (Score:4, Informative)
Should be called Lazarium. After all, it's safe to say nobody has an earlier claim of discovery. :) (Hey, I said nothing about any actual discovery, just a claim of one.)
Re:Element 115 (Score:5, Insightful)
No it should be called elerium.
Re: (Score:1)
No it should be called Clippy.
Re: (Score:2)
Only if it's a bronze colored crystal!
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
No, it IS called elerium. ;-)
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Re: (Score:2)
Yomommanum
XD
Re: (Score:1)
How about (Score:4, Funny)
"Good news, everyone!"
Re: (Score:1)
peeteebarnum
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
You'll have to settle for Ca, S and O being on there. There is no periodic table of the compounds.
I'll be most disappointed if.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re: (Score:3)
But technically isn't "Elerium-115" mean "Elerium with atomic mass of 115" ? Like "U-235" ?
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
They didn't have nuclear submarines in those days.
And there's no U 235. There's a U 238 which is both an isotope of Uranium and a U-boot.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
I meant "There was no U-boot 235" not there's no U-235 isotope.
Re: (Score:2)
Except that there was. The U-235 was a Type VIIC, commissioned 19 Dec 1942. She never saw combat service and was used as a training boat. Sunk by a US bombing raid on 14 May, 1943, she was successfully raised and put back into service. She was finally sunk for good when a German torpedo boat attacked her by mistake on 14 April, 1945. She went down with all 47 hands.
Re: (Score:2)
Only in that she was sunk by her own side. In the end, just about all the U-boats were sunk in action, and most went down with all hands. Over the entire course of the war, the U-boat service suffered a 75-80% casualty rate (and I can think of few nastier deaths than being trapped in a sinking submarine)--and yet, they were a all-volunteer outfit and never had a shortage of recruits.
Re: (Score:3)
... German.
Re ununpentium!? (Score:2)
ununpentium
Does Intel have nothing not to do with this one? (double negative there).
Re: (Score:1)
element 115 is not given the name Elerium, in honour of the fictional element used to power the spacecraft in the XCOM series. Ununpentium is dull and doesn't really roll off the tongue!
Are you fucking retarded?
Re: (Score:2)
Huh (Score:2)
What happened to that un uh um oo ee oo ah ah standardized naming system?
Did they finally realize it sucked the passion and romance right out of the periodic table?
Re: (Score:3)
passion and romance ... periodic table
That sounds like the plot of a xkcd comic...
Re: (Score:2)
Those are used until a name is decided on.
Re: (Score:2)
I believe that naming system was used to fill in spots that either haven't been discovered/created, or that have been discovered but not verified/accepted. Once the corresponding element gets "voted onto the island", they give it an official name.
Aikon-
Re:Huh (Score:5, Funny)
What happened to that un uh um oo ee oo ah ah standardized naming system?
They gave up when they realized it would have to be extended to include ting tang walla walla bing bang.
Re: (Score:2)
WP sez [wikipedia.org]:
"A systematic element name is the temporary name and symbol assigned to newly synthesized and not yet synthesized chemical elements. In chemistry, a transuranic element receives a permanent name and symbol only after its synthesis has been confirmed."
How close are we to the island of stability? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How close are we to the island of stability? (Score:4, Funny)
and even more importantly, how does this magic element relate to mining operations on pandora, and is it the stuff that makes 10 foot tall blue chicks hot?
Re: (Score:1)
I'm still waiting on a high numbered inexpensively-manufactured element that has a short half life and quickly decays into non-radioactive gold and silver, chemically, atomically indistinguishable from the stuff we mine :-)
Re: (Score:2)
Don't hold your breath, as they say.
Re: (Score:2)
"Congrats! We just created element 120 and it appears stable! Yay! What do you mean the sensors aren't working anymore? Ok who's messing with the clock and making the hands run backwards? How'd my underwear get on my head and why did Fred just turn into a polar bear?"
Re: (Score:2)
We're missing the island of stability and we don't know how to hit it yet. As the article you link states, "The manufacturing of nuclei in the island of stability proves to be very difficult, because the nuclei available as starting materials do not deliver the necessary sum of neutrons."
Re: (Score:2)
I am not atom physicist, but if island of stability exists, then we should be able to find those elements without nuclear synthesis. Those elements would exist as they would be created the usual way by mother universe.
If you have unstable composite with over 250 parts, do you really expect that composite of 300-400 parts will be rock solid.
Re: (Score:2)
Larger elements almost certainly existed in the past, but there's nothing bigger than Bi that's stable on astronomical time scales (and even Bi has recently been discovered to be slightly radioactive, albeit with a very long half-life), so any heavy elements that were created in normal astronomical events have long-since decayed into lighter elements -- when you get to 200+ nucleons "stable" is a relative term.
Re: (Score:2)
Stability is relative. If we could create a very heavy element with a half-life of 10 years then that would be fascinating (and perhaps very useful)- but you won't find much of it floating around in space; all elements created "naturally" are created in the fusion reactions of stars, generally dispersed by supernova; anything created in most known supernovae would be gone long before it reaches us. And that's even assuming the fusion reactions in stars would be capable of producing such a very heavy element
Elerium 115 (Score:1)
Oh, Elerium 115 is comiiiing! Now we need to get some Alien Alloys...
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
I think youre the only other person on earth I have run into that knows about this game.
Really? My friends and I used to love it.
If you don't know about it, you might want to check out UFO:AI (ufoai.ninex.info, or find it on sourceforge). It's very playable but gets boring late in the game. That should improve as the game matures.
Re: (Score:2)
You need more friends ;) ... I thought everyone played (or at least knew) about X-COM.
Re: (Score:1)
Obviously (Score:3)
“Element 114 obviously isn’t a very catchy name, especially in a sea of molybdenums and seaborgiums. They have temporary titles — ununquadium and ununhexium — but final names are yet to been decided.
Obviously, the elements must roll off the tongue as well as molybdenum.
Re: (Score:2)
> Obviously, the elements must roll off the tongue as well as molybdenum.
The disulfide is pretty slippery but I wouldn't put it on my tongue.
Re: (Score:1)
better names (Score:4, Informative)
almost obligatory whenever these kinds of stories pop up on slashdot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_elements,_materials,_isotopes_and_atomic_particles [wikipedia.org]
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
hey, it's wikipedia: add it ;-)
Re: (Score:3)
hahahahahaha.
Oh wait, you were serious, let me laugh even harder!
The layman can't edit wikipedia any more without their changes being immediately reverted as "vandalism" or some other spurious reason by the wiki mods.
Re: (Score:2)
Did the ;-) tell you he was serious?
Re: (Score:2)
No, but I was quoting Bender; I meant to add a thing about Hermes and the bureaucracy department and wikipedia etc, but I got called away and posted what I had :D
Re: (Score:2)
I don't usually like to be the huge cynic, seeing conspiracy and evil everywhere, but my experience with editing wikipedia has been universally bad. All of my edits have been reverted, so in the end I just stopped trying. It wasn't even controversial topics - generally just spelling or grammar corrections and supplemental information on science and engineering topics (including cites).
Given that my spelling corrections were being quickly reverted when they were obvious to anyone who could read English, I ca
Re: (Score:2)
It also left out the magic water that's left after you dilute all of the _[insert symptom-producing substance here]__ out of it, as in homeopathy.
The Evil League of Elements (Score:1)
Moscovium, placenames (Score:3)
This moscovium made me think of other elements named for places. Europium [wikipedia.org] and Americium for continents. Lutetium [wikipedia.org] for Paris, Californium [wikipedia.org] for California. Dubnium [wikipedia.org] for Dubna, a city in Russia. Francium [wikipedia.org] and Gallium [wikipedia.org] for France, Germanium [wikipedia.org] for Germany, Polonium [wikipedia.org] for Poland), Hafnium [wikipedia.org] for Copenhagen, Holmium [wikipedia.org] for Stockholm (these last 2 from their Latin names). Then Hassium [wikipedia.org] for Hesse (Germany), Rhenium [wikipedia.org] for Eastern France (jk :D), Ruthenium [wikipedia.org] for the old region in Ukraine-Russia, Strontium [wikipedia.org] for a village in Scotland, Berkelium [wikipedia.org] for Berkeley, and Thulium [wikipedia.org] for a mythical island in the north Pole.
A special mention to the lucky sweddish village of Ytterby [wikipedia.org] that has four elements named in its honor: Yttrium [wikipedia.org], Ytterbium [wikipedia.org], Erbium [wikipedia.org], and Terbium [wikipedia.org].
Re: (Score:2)
Very interesting comment, thank you for compiling all the info in one place for us.
Re: (Score:2)
Rio-de-Janeirium
I wish that were a real thing so much it almost makes me want to fund a high-energy particle physics lab there just so there would be an excuse.
Re: (Score:2)
Outdated periodic tables will ruin school district (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Those aren't elements... (Score:1)
In Soviet Russia (Score:2)
elements name YOU!
Elerium (Score:1)
It should have been called Elerium.
I think we have too little swearwords in science (Score:2)
how about fatassium and heavyasshitium. No, I am not serious but hey it's Monday.
Flavorflavium (Score:3)
Baloneyium (Score:1)
Lighter (Score:2)
Wake me up when they find a new element with a *lower* atomic number than the ones we are accustomed to now. Maybe one with zero protons called Hallucinatium (Ha!).
FlavorFlavium (Score:2)
'Nuff said.
Daltonium (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
It's really about time an element was named Daltonium. It was John Dalton who came up with the original ideas that led to correct theories about the structure of the atom and what an element was, yet his name is not honoured, and is passed over again and again for silly names. It's almost as if people have forgotten him....
Well, the unit of atomic mass [wikipedia.org] is named after him...
Re: (Score:1)
Now I'll have to wait for ver 1.1 of http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8a2f/ [thinkgeek.com] [thinkgeek.com]
If element discoveries keep going at the current rate, in 20 or 30 years, a shower curtain won't be large enough for all the elements to fit, and still have readable type <G>
Perhaps a linoleum floor version of the table?
Re: (Score:2)