The World's First Full Face Transplant 193
Dave Knott writes "A thirty-member Spanish medical team has achieved the world's first full face transplant. There have been ten previous similar operations, but this is claimed to be the first total transplant, replacing all of the face including some bones. The unnamed recipient originally injured himself in a shooting accident, and received the entire facial skin and muscles — including cheekbones, nose, lips and teeth — of a donor. The complex operation involved extraction of the donor's face, followed by removal of the jaw, nose, cheeks and parts of the eye cavities. Then the medical team took all of the donor face's soft tissue, including musculature, veins and nerves. In order to transplant the face, the medical team has to connect four jugular veins, extract bones and join all the musculature and blood vessels. The recipient has had a chance to see himself in the mirror, and is reportedly satisfied with the results. It is unknown whether he now looks more like John Travolta or Nicolas Cage."
The pictures and videos in the linked articles are all computer-generated at this point, so the squeamish need not worry.
The Results? (Score:2, Interesting)
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And the before picture of the donor (I don't think I want to see the after picture there).
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Here you go (Score:3, Funny)
I think this [imdb.com] is what you're looking for.
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You bastard. Somebody might actually fall for that, and watch Vanilla Sky, and kill themselves out of sheer despair and disgust, and their blood will be on YOUR hands.
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Re:The Results? (Score:5, Funny)
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My kingdom for a mod point!
The donor? (Score:5, Funny)
Where did they get a spare face? Faces are rather hard to come by.
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Gimme back my face.
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A donor, it said. Pay attention. Where do you think they get organs and shit for transplants? Dead people with donor cards.
Re:The donor? (Score:5, Funny)
A donor, it said. Pay attention. Where do you think they get organs and shit for transplants? Dead people with donor cards.
Uh, who could possibly need a shit transplant?
Re:The donor? (Score:5, Informative)
Uh, who could possibly need a shit transplant?
Actually.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy [wikipedia.org]
Re:The donor? (Score:5, Funny)
Whoa. I learn something new and disgusting every day. Thanks Internet!
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My new sig, when I get tired of this one - or possibly for use on other forums.
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When I read that, I sh*t bricks.
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Nah, the usual pattern in OE derived strong verbs is i->a->u. Ex: Sing, sang, sung; drink, drank, drunk; swim, swam, swum. So we get: shit, shat, shut.
OR, we could not be pedantic about it and accept that in the common usage of the verb 'to shit' it simply isn't conjugated.
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Not all junior politicians can keep up with the vast volume of shit generated by seasoned veterans. It is sad reality that many ambitious young people now turn to supplements to keep up in this highly competitive field.
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Okay, now this is more along the lines of what I was trying to set up. See, I provide the funny lead in, someone else makes the punch line. But a big 'thanks!' to all those corny, nutty folks who felt compelled to let us all know that, yes, there really is such a thing as a shit transplant. I'm sure we all feel relieved knowing that, as if a big load has dropped off our, uh, shoulders. Lets all try to do our duty and keep each other informed. But this thing is getting pretty long now, and I feel pooped.
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They actually do that now. It's called a fecal transplant and it helps people recover from massive intestinal infections where subsequent antibiotic routines have wiped out all the good flora/bacteria. Sounds weird but true!
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Only they don't call them donors - they call them fetishists.
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Yeah that's it... donors...
"Doctor you did an amazing job, but why do I look like Chinese, and what is this number tattooed on the back of my new neck?"
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Politicians... Don't they already have a spare face?
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As above, yes. You're way past the mark on this one.
I saw that movie (Score:5, Funny)
Whats it called again? The one with Nicholas Cage and John Travolta... Where they like, take the guys face off, and then his face is off, so then they take the other guys face off, and put it on the other guys face. And then the guy without a face is really put off by it, so he gets the doctor to take the first offed face and put it back on him. So their faces are swapped. And then they have an epic face off with a climactic finish.
God I wish I could just remember the name of that movie...
Re:I saw that movie (Score:4, Funny)
I think it was called "The Face That Couldn't Stay On."
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Whats it called again? The one with Nicholas Cage and John Travolta... Where they like, take the guys face off, and then his face is off, so then they take the other guys face off, and put it on the other guys face. And then the guy without a face is really put off by it, so he gets the doctor to take the first offed face and put it back on him. So their faces are swapped. And then they have an epic face off with a climactic finish.
God I wish I could just remember the name of that movie...
Battlefield Earth.
Swordfish (Score:2)
Swordfish... Only Nicholas Cage looks a lot like Wolverine.
Face Off (Score:2)
:D
The MAD parody was called (Score:2)
face off [...] face is off [...] face off [...] guy without a face is really put off [...] the first offed face [...] an epic face off
I don't remember what the movie was called, but the parody in Mad #363 was called "F*!@/OFF".
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Are you one of those 'unschooled' kids in America?
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As lame as it is (and even though it doesn't quite fit) it reminds me of this [xkcd.com]
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WHOOOOSH.
Mod parent into karmic oblivion.
Re:I saw that movie (Score:4, Funny)
Thank you, captain obvious and humorless, I salute you and award you the Redundant Cross of Missing The Point.
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Where did they get a spare face? Faces are rather hard to come by.
From Facebook. All users are donors. Read the fine print in their terms of use.
The bit about "Donors do not have to be deceased for their face to be donated" is especially frightening.
Injured his face in a shooting accident ? (Score:3, Funny)
it seems that dick cheney is still about.
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I'm pretty sure it was a shotgun suicide attempt with an airsoft.
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Castor Troy beware (Score:1)
Damn it, Dick! (Score:2, Funny)
The unnamed recipient originally injured himself in a shooting accident...
Dick Cheney needs to stop shooting his friends in the face.
How on Earth does he even get friends in the first place?
Re:Damn it, Dick! (Score:5, Funny)
So, what exactly do you think the reaction down at the country club is like when Cheney rolls in and asks, "Hey! Anybody wanna go huntin'?"
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She must be the most successful serial killer of all times because every time she moves somewhere a murder happens shortly after that. And she gets away with it too. Coincidence? I think not.
I'm also surprised that there are still some people alive in Midsomer.
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He threatened to shoot me in the face!
Help! I want out!
Now it's a medical procedure... (Score:3, Interesting)
Just wait until this becomes a cosmetic procedure for the rich. A few years of refinement and advances in microsurgery, and then they'll be raising clones of rich people in jungle compounds down in Brazil...
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Just wait until this becomes a cosmetic procedure for the rich. A few years of refinement and advances in microsurgery, and then they'll be raising clones of rich people in jungle compounds down in Brazil...
That and/or having attractive poor people selling their faces on the black market...
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Right, because anti-rejection drugs and a face full of nerve damage are waaaaay better than a few wrinkles.
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I won't respond on the anti-rejection drugs... but a face full of nerve damage? That's par for the course [dancewithshadows.com] for people who use modern medicine to remove wrinkles.
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Why not, people already spend crazy amounts of money to remove a few wrinkles at the expense of turning their face into an expressionless mask either by cutting small muscles out or injecting a potent neurotoxin.
I personally think it's all a terrible idea, but it wouldn't be the first time someone risked their life doing something incredibly stupid in the name of vanity.
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Pretty sure I can think of a half-dozen novels with exactly this setup.
Weak. (Score:1)
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It's not the same, but I saw a documentary about a decapitated monkey. The researches removed the head from the monkey, and attached a whole set of tubes from the head to the body for blood flow, but the airways and nervous system was 'disconnected.' The body was on artificial life support systems. The monkey was kept alive for a significant period of time. It was at least half a day, maybe several days (I can't recall), before they decided to kill it. The monkey would look around, follow objects with
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Here we go. From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:
In 1963, a group of scientists from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland, Ohio,[3] led by Robert J. White, a neurosurgeon and a professor of neurological surgery who was inspired by the work of Vladimir Demikhov, performed a highly controversial operation to transplant the head of one monkey onto another's body. The procedure was a success to some extent, with the animal being able to smell, taste, hear, and see the world around it. The operation involved cauterizing arteries and veins carefully while the head was being severed to prevent hypovolemia. Because the nerves were left entirely intact, connecting the brain to a blood supply kept it chemically alive. The animal survived for some time after the operation, even at times attempting to bite some of the staff.[4] In 2001, Dr. White successfully repeated the operation on a monkey.[5]
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There's a video of this with a dog's head. It's fucking creepy (and possibly fake--some controversy over that, but either way it freaks me out).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant [wikipedia.org]
The most disturbing part of this article is that it even has a "History" section.
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WTF
Dammit - every time I think I've figured out a way to get into the Guiness book, I always find out somebody's already done it.
Simply astounding! (Score:5, Insightful)
For all the people who claim that our medical knowledge is seriously lacking or fraught with error, this fly's in your face. Prepare for an onslaught of biomedical advances that will change everything we know about health and longevity. While the human body may seem to work like black magic, perhaps like an infinitely complex analog circuit, advances in understanding are steadily being made. There are real achievers in these domains and they are standing on the shoulders of giants, accruing the tools to solve any physiological problem.
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Though the Americans might argue that its difficult to get access to any of these biomedical advances.
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Though that doesn't explain your high (relativelly) infant mortality. The most typical [wikipedia.org] causes don't seem to have much to do with lack of money for treatments (considering that one your neighbour where many treatments simply aren't available...has notably smaller rate)
Seems you're lacking in preventive care ("lifestyle" being large part of it)
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Preventive care / lifestyle (which, as I suspected above, might also play large role in those infant stats) might be perhaps ad hoc classified also under availability of care, I guess. If place where you live doesn't make certain healthy lifestyle choices easy.
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Yeah, they way I look at it they are related. Quite strongly IMHO, "a place which doesn't make healthy lifestyle easy" often means "a place which doesn't make healthy lifestyle affordable".
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Although I agree with you in general, I think people tend to go too much to extremes on both sides of this issue. Yes, we know a lot about the human body, how it works, and we know how to do a lot of stuff to it, but there is still tons of stuff we don't know.
Even some of the stuff/treatments that we do "know" we don't really know what we are doing. As a real life example, I take generic Flonase for allergies. It is basically a steroid that you shoot in your nose. It works great and I am glad that som
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I knew a guy a few years back who basically "knew" that in his lifetime (he was around 35 at the time, probably about 40 now) that we would have the medical techonolgy to live for ever.
There are a lot of those Kurzweil worshipping morons around /.
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Morons worshipping things that promise them direct continuation via resurrection or, more generally, eternal life is an old, widespread phenomena.
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In the immortal words of Peter Griffin... (Score:2)
Why would you need one? (Score:3, Funny)
It begs the question: What's wrong with your faaaaaaace?
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It begs the question: What's wrong with your faaaaaaace?
What was that from again? It's going to bug me all day until I figure it out.
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It RAISES the question, dammit. Begging the question is something else, but you could probably care less.
Depends on how up-to-date your copy of the English language is. In the current release, "begging the question" no longer refers to the logical fallacy of circular reasoning and can be used interchangeably with "raises the question" (due to updates in the usage of the verb "beg"). You should update your definitions and libraries to the newest version rather than correct other people's word choices online, as it makes you look like a bore.
Let me get this straight (Score:3, Interesting)
A 30 member medical team is willing to reconstruct the face of someone who
blew his own face off. I wonder how much that cost?
I wonder how much it costs to vaccinate a single child
against yellow fever ?
Re:Let me get this straight (Score:5, Insightful)
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Hey, you know this computer you're using to post to Slashdot?
Yeah, I wonder how much it costs to vaccinate a single child, indeed, hypocrite.
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Hold on, you have just spent time reading about this on /. and commenting, but you could have been outside, helping the needy!
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It still costs money even if the government pays for it... I have to agree somewhat with the grandparent though the improvement in quality of life might be worth it (and the scientific value is of course very large). This procedure sounds very complicated but it's definitely very cool. And it's good that they aren't just throwing donor faces away I guess (waste not want not).
Hint: never lend someone the money for this op. (Score:3, Funny)
Cheeky (Score:2)
Pffft, big deal... (Score:2)
talk to me when they can replace a whole head. Now that would be something!
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Or a full body transplant 100% so you can take one person then replace them with another compete person.
My boss just read the above and said he can do that if I keep posting to slashdot.
Another First Until The Next (Score:3, Informative)
The last first was first until this first came along and included *some* bones.
This first will be the first until the next first included more bones.
I think they're on to something here. Not only have they found a way to generate repeating headliners, they can do so farther and farther by redefining 'face'.
'Researchers today performed the first really really for real face transplant. The previous first removed enough skin from the front side of the person so that their navel was pulled upwards to serve as a third nostril. In this record shattering surgery, the skin was pulled even farther upwards, so that now her pubic hair serves as a beard. According to Dr. Rob Zombie they have yet to solve the problem of the patient urinating onto her dinner plate from her chin. "We tried a diaper, but then she couldn't breathe." Dr. John Carpenter stated "We don't expect to have the problems that we previously with this patient, specifically her negative reaction to having three nostrils. This time we're 'replanted' [their term for transplants performed on the same person but involving different locations] most of the old evolutionary hold-overs that were previously user to define 'face'. We find it highly unlikely the patient will state objections to having a beard on her face if she can't see in a mirror. We moved her eyes around back to make room for the beard." Dr. Zombie added "And if she does, so what? If we don't want to listen to her, we've moved her mouth too. We'll just make her sit down. It wasn't strictly necessary to move her mouth that far, but we had to do something. It was impossible to work with all that screaming going on."
Dick, you're gonna pay for what you did to me! (Score:2)
Now that I've got this new face and you don't know what I look like any more, I'm gonna make you pay for what you did to my first one, Mister Cheney! I was kinda attached to it.
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What does the donor look like now, and what are they going to do about not having a face?
Rot in the ground as worm food. (As most organ donor do.)
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What does the donor look like now, and what are they going to do about not having a face?
he's going to get a face from another donor. duh.
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Is this the Bernie Madoff Organ Donation Agency by any chance?
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What does the donor look like now, and what are they going to do about not having a face?
Most likely something like this woman. [msn.com]
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Then again, the new hot chick may figure out that she can move on to a hot rich guy and be done with you - so there are risks!
While I do applaud the planning you've put into this (I am always in favor of both helping the environment and making the women around me more attractive), I think the risk you mentioned is a bit unfounded. I mean if you can afford to get your butter face girlfriend/wife a new face, chances are you can afford to keep her around afterwards.
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welcome to socialized medicine.
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Really this is the first super-duper-ultra-mega full face transplant, coming after the first full transplant, first super full transplant, first super-duper full transplant, and the first super-duper-ultra full transplant.
That should tell you just how full this face transplant is.