Dad Delivers Baby Using Wiki 249
sonamchauhan writes "A Londoner helped his wife deliver their baby by Googling 'how to deliver a baby' on his mobile phone. From the article: 'Today proud Mr Smith said: "The midwife had checked Emma earlier in the day but contractions started up again at about 8pm so we called the midwife to come back. But then everything happened so quickly I realized Emma was going to give birth. I wasn't sure what I was going to do so I just looked up the instructions on the internet using my BlackBerry."'"
I recently needed to learn how to set a live trap (Score:5, Funny)
God bless mobile Internet.
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:5, Funny)
Was it a boy or a girl?
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Now, I think it's a little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you?
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Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:5, Funny)
I learned how to clean up forensic evidence from my basement....
Thank you Wikipedia!
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Which is particularly annoying because deletionists will be happy to tell you that Wikipedia Is Not A Manual Or Guidebook, so this could never have happened with Wikipedia in the first place.
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:5, Interesting)
I previously challenged anyone to link to a wikipedia article which is provably wrong in a key fact presented and hasn't been corrected for more than a week. The best people came up with are spelling errors and questionable references. So as far as I am concerned, peer review system makes Wikipedia more reliable than an average printed manual or guidebook where any mistakes couldn't have been corrected since I bought it.
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, you could try wiggling out of this one on a technicality, insisting on an article that is provably wrong in key facts and has been for more than a week, rather than one where that exact situation occurred but the article was later corrected after more than a week. But I'm sure you wouldn't do that, since that would be an artificial limitation.
So perhaps you should look at this version of an article about Colin Pitchfork, a convicted child killer: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colin_Pitchfork&oldid=141669223 [wikipedia.org] . Among the other false key facts presented in the article for twenty-five days (over three weeks):
* the city and the county where the murders occurred;
* the years where they occurred;
* the existence of a third murder;
* the year of Pitchfork's confession;
* the date and year of Pitchfork's sentencing;
* the name of the initial incorrect suspect;
* the affiliation of the scientist who developed the technique that identified Pitchfork;
* how Pitchfork's ruse to defeat forensic testing failed.
That's a bit more than "spelling errors and questionable references."
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Mars XXX. Google it: The first hit is a Wikipedia article describing Mars candy bars, which says that the XXX variant is gold-wrapped and filled with bourbon. Every other hit for "Mars XXX" relating to candy is a copy of the Wikipedia article. This part of the Wikipedia article hasn't changed for months (at least).
I'd like to think that if Mars were selling bourbon-filled candy bars, that someone would've mentioned it outside of Wikipedia. Alas.
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Except the point the GP was making is that the content wouldn't be in Wikipedia in the first place, so it's accuracy is hardly relevant.
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Ok, I'll bite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_iron_cookware#Seasoning [wikipedia.org]
Seasoning isn't magnetite formation, it's amorphous carbon formation. Someone got blueing confused with seasoning. Not too many people at home boil their pans in potassium nitrate and lye to season them. Worse, the article says something about oil protecting the metal from the oxygen in the air so that rust won't form, yet the formation of magnetite requires oxygen to react with the iron.
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A friend of mine once changed the article for the movie Beaches to indicate that Arnold Schwarzenegger had a small, and uncredited cameo.
Wikipedia is the best thing to happen to gambling since rigged dice and double sided coins.
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The reliability of Wikipedia articles is considered by most to be uncertain, as sources find that many errors are produced by editors who clean-up articles. Most errors go undetected for long periods of time. [1] [slashdot.org]
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Maybe the computer wasn’t close at hand.
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:5, Funny)
Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?
Because he did not want to have to Goggle "how to clean afterbirth off of a laptop"...
Congrats, you google bombed "afterbirth" (Score:2, Funny)
Yep, this story. - Pretty disruptive for people who need a (quick) answer and not your stupid comment.
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Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?
Because he did not want to have to Goggle "how to clean afterbirth off of a laptop"...
Can't clean laptop! The goggles, they do nothing!
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:5, Funny)
The internet can be used to answer all sorts of questions! I recently left my laptop unattended in the living room, and when I came back "How to get a threesome in Dragon Age" was in the search box.
The only question now is which one of my roommates needed to resort to a FAQ to figure that one out...
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*air* rifle? Is that anything like air guitar?
Get a Garand, son, that'll do ya proud.
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Oh, whoosh.
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:5, Funny)
I think your sig actually paraphrases what the article said.
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If one doesn't know how to, how does one learn to google something on the internet?
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Just Bing it.
Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (Score:4, Funny)
LMGTFY [lmgtfy.com]
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I tried that, and now I'm just scared. [imageshack.us]
The Yahoo answers version (Score:5, Funny)
how is babby delivered?
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"Yahoo" lives up to it's namesake again.....
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UPS (Score:2, Funny)
I want his mobile data service (Score:4, Funny)
The AT&T EDGE service on my Blackberry would have delivered the information by the baby's 1st birthday if I was lucky. That is making the assumption that the built in browser could actually load the webpage.
Actual article (Score:4, Informative)
He probably read this wikiHow article [wikihow.com]
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You would think in all those nine months of labor the thought to read about delivery would cross his mind...
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What, no 3G? (Score:2)
You should make a commercial about your experience with AT&T. Oh wait, there's a SLAPP [wikipedia.org] for that...
(Yes, for the legal pedants out there, I know it's not the same, but nothing else rhymed quite the same. It's satire, lighten up already.)
Re:I want his blackberry (Score:2)
I don't want to imagine what would happen if the mobile phone in question was windows mobile based!!
Now I must hide quickly because I can hear the astroturfers running already..
Disclaimer: I own a mobile phone based on windows mobile 6.1.
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or tell them it actually comes out of a different hole
That's how you know it's going to be a lawyer. ;)
(apologies to NewYorkCountryLawyer and cpt kangarooski)
A geeks geek... (Score:5, Funny)
Anyone faced with a woman about to deliver, and their first thought is "I know, I'll go search around on google" is my hero.
This guy walked a very fine line (Score:2)
Between Balls and Stupidity.
Glad he got it done!
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Glad he got it done!
At that point, neither he nor his Blackberry had much to do with the proceedings!
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Anyone faced with a woman about to deliver, and their first thought is "I know, I'll go search around on google" is my hero.
I don't know. FTA:
Five minutes after the delivery the midwife arrived to cut the umbilical cord of their fourth child.
What kind of geek is he when he can't master delivering a baby the forth time around? I would have memorized the wiki-article by now.
This was a "Malcolm in the Middle" episode! (Score:2)
And this was in 2003 - way ahead of the curve!
Wife now loves Blackberry (Score:2, Informative)
I'm inclined to suspect... (Score:5, Insightful)
The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea; but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.
Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (Score:5, Funny)
the real headline ought to be: "Mother ejects baby in uncomplicated delivery"
What on earth has the mother got to do with it???
Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah I'd like to hear the stork's side of all this.
Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (Score:4, Insightful)
The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea; but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.
We've already got a sky-high miscarriage rate, a fun fact nobody likes to talk about in public. Something like 1/3rd of all pregnancies in the US result in miscarriages. Though I am aware of no science supporting this, I suspect it has to do with 2-3 generations full of people being born that otherwise were not healthy enough for one reason or another. Nature kinda takes care of this on its own.
I know it sounds cruel and insane, but part of me really thinks that we're fucking ourselves over long-term by providing such "excellent" health care. We're almost completely bypassing natural selection...
Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (Score:5, Informative)
Bullshit. From fittingly/where-else Wikipedia:
Likelihood of miscarriage drastically increases with the mother's age; the average age of mothers at childbirth has steadily increased in the past decades, although I was very surprised to see it's still at 25 in the US. So it's got fuck all to do with "bypassing natural selection".
Yes, and ? (Score:3, Interesting)
We've already got a sky-high miscarriage rate, a fun fact nobody likes to talk about in public. Something like 1/3rd of all pregnancies in the US result in miscarriages.
Yes, miscariages seem to naturally occur often in humans [wikipedia.org], 40% according to the sources that wikipedia cites. (specially with older parents, where the gametes had accumulated more mutations).
Well, you know what ? Mutation DO happen. A child has NOT a carbon-copy of the same genetic material as the parents.
A mutation could be catastrophically bad, slightly bad, neutral, slightly good or miraculously good.
The slightly good/bad and the miraculously good is what make evolution work, no matter how much the Creat
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Yes, but isn't it cool that if you found yourself in a scenario where a woman is giving birth you could quickly find out what you should do?
Fourth baby (Score:5, Insightful)
The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea
According to the article, the "google-delivered" baby-girl was the mother's fourth pregnancy and fourth birth.
That means that all previous 3 of them went ok, and that the mother has quite some experience.
Also, as the whole story happened in a country were medical assistance is available and as the parents seem not to be against assistance (the mother seem to be checked by a midwife on a regular basis. they even called the midwife back - she just didn't manage to arrive soon enough), we can presume that they had pre-natal assistance (Echography, etc.) and we can assume that the doctors and mid-wife saw nothing peculiar or dangerous in advance either.
If there's no peculiar bad luck (like the unlucky baby entangling herself in the umbilical cord while exiting), chances are high that everything will go ok this time too. The father needed only to assist the mother, not to be able to react and start an emergency resucitation or whatever.
So although a medical support would have helped in case of some catastrophic event, the chance of such a catastrophic event where pretty low in this peculiar couple's situation.
but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.
Well, on the other hand humans have a couple of problem. Unlike carnivore mammalian, our women tend to give birth to a rather single huge fair-developed baby instead of several small partially developed kittens/puppies. This size-problem is further worsened by the fact we are the only bipedal, upright-walking mammals and thus have pelvises which are optimized for a different bio-mechanical everyday use as the other mammals.
So quite a lot of thing can go wrong. Slightly more than with cats and dogs, for example.
On the other hand, we're social animals and have probably lived in small packs and tribes for quite a long period. Chances are high that, even with our cavemen ancestors young first-time mother could receive help from more experienced members of the tribe. (Supposedly, prostitution isn't the only job which could be called "the world's oldest profession")
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"Couple planning home birth get it, midwife arrives late"
Nope, not nearly as interesting as "in vitro insertion of Blackberry causes healthy birth, baby's first word 'lol'"
The information revolution has begun. (Score:5, Insightful)
For years I told people, "the information revolution has not yet begun." About six months ago, while eating breakfast at a little, podunk diner in a town of around 500 people, I got curious about what causes Tidal Locking. [wikipedia.org] So, without thinking about it, I whipped out my iPhone and looked it up using Wikipanion.
Then, I realized what I was doing. I, as someone who knows basically nothing about orbital mechanics, was sitting in a little diner on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and had access to more information than I could possibly use on an obscure, orbital-mechanical phenomenon. All on a whim. That's when I decided that "the information revolution has begun." It's not well-begun, it's not finished, it's not even fully taken shape yet. But it's begun.
Ack (Score:2)
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(GP forgot the /wiki/ between the hostname and the article title.) I was about to write about how dumb it is that they don't simply redirect into the "subfolder" because I'm sure this happens all the time. Then I noticed that they do redirect. So now I'm going to complain that they don't auto-redirect for a capitalisation error like Tidal Locking vs. Tidal locking. ;)
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it's not finished
If the information revolution ever finishes, you won't read about it on the internet. ;)
FWIW, IMHO, the "information revolution" as you call it, has begun, has taken shape and is beyond the hype.
Sure it'll change in the future; information may become easier or quicker to access, information may get different qualitative properties, but right now any information can (atleast technically) be shared with anybody around the world.
Nobody would say the industrial revolution is "not well-begun, not finished and no
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No, you're not correct. Being able to look up useless information isn't helpful. That's mostly useless. You could very well have waited until you got access to a public library and had the same effect.
It's being able to have instant access to information that you can then use to further your goals that you will be empowered to affect change. And I think we've been there for a little while, eg stock research. It used to take subscribing to paper information, and the speed of your reactions were dictated
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There is another side of the story, though I'll agree it's effects may not be as important: in ages past, you, being Sir Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein, would be intrigued by that idea and would think about it, learn some math, tinker with it and eventually maybe produce something of monumental importance. I imagine someone like Einstein asking himself "what happens if you travel the speed of light?" then looks it up in Wikipedia and reads "Nothing much." then shrugs and continues with his merry life...
Tho
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And now I'm installing Wikipanion on my iPhone, continuing the revolution.
Seriously, thanks for mentioning this. I didn't know about this app but it's going to make wasting time on Wikipedia while on the can^Wtrain so much easier.
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You mean that's when you realised the information revolution had begun. We've been able to access wikipedia on our phones long before the iPhone came around - and I'd argue that the 'revolution' didn't begin just because you're reading about orbital mechanics with your phone instead of your laptop.
When will the revolution be finished? Perhaps when we can access the internet with a neural interface?
WHAT!?!? (Score:2, Informative)
Cool (Score:2)
I just looked up the article. Not that I exactly plan on doing things this way, but in a pinch the information could prove useful in a couple of months.
Looks like an urban myth / tabloid madeup story. (Score:2, Informative)
http://english.pravda.ru/society/family/08-04-2009/107373-deliver_baby_mobile_phone-0
Nice! (Score:2)
Googled "How to deliver a baby"... (Score:2)
...what followed was the most perverted and erotic delivery ever outside of hentai.
Ah well, atleast ONE thing google helped bring into the world that is no longer in Beta.
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I thing we are always beta, evolutionary speaking.
How stupid are we (Score:2, Insightful)
That we have to google how to have a baby. Your deity must be proud! Or Darwin. Here I was thinking we're the smartest we've ever been... and we need instructions on how to reproduce. Never mind that 2000 years ago, even 200 years ago, most everyone was illiterate. And 20,000 years ago, they probably didn't even realize babies come from sex. (Actually many tribes consider the baby in proportion to the number of contributing men). What ever would we do?
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No, he was finding out what he needs to do to deliver a baby. It's not about her having a baby.
Add to that there are a myriad of things that can go wrong.
You might not how very few babies in industrialized nations die at birth.
It seems to me using science to get better survival rates is a good thing.
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Childbirth? (Score:5, Funny)
Anyone willing to take the bet... (Score:3, Funny)
Good thing it wasn't a Blackberry Storm (Score:3, Funny)
It's a good thing he didn't have a Blackberry Storm to mash his query out on, or he would have been confused by the instructions on "how to slither a navy"
MIdwife? (Score:2)
Why would you want to start your child's life with an increased risk of death?
Idiots.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2975 [sciencebasedmedicine.org]
http://getbetterhealth.com/homebirth-risks-babies-three-times-more-likely-to-die/2009.11.12 [getbetterhealth.com]
the data is very good.
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Heck, man. Just being born guarantees death.
But I can just imagine myself trying to look up how to deliver a baby on my phone's Internet browser. I wouldn't even get "how to" entered with T9 before I passed out.
Mahalia Merita Angela Smith, forever called RIMmy? (Score:2)
I thought it said "...using Wii" (Score:2)
Interesting approach if you think about it... (Score:2)
Most people would simply deliver a baby through a vagina...
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The doctor actually *dropped* my third child, luckily the nurse caught her after a short bounce off of the table. It still burns me up how much I had to pay that doctor to fumble my child.
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Until the first hospitals for deliveries were set up the death rate for women in childbirth was around 16%.
I'd say those would be dicey odds for anyone delivering without emergency equipment or trained medical staff nearby,
Now, if a midwife was to have performed the delivery, this mother to be was likely deemed "low risk", so sampling bias will apply if we look at "home births where the midwife was late", but giving birth is not exactly risk-free.
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And before entering the dark, scary cave*, the father was heard yelling, "LEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYY SSSSSMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH!"
* Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
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:rolleyes: RTFS (=summary)
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I do that a lot.