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Building the Interplanetary Internet 334

sighted writes "Internet pioneer Vint Cerf, now a Google VP, is leading a NASA effort to create a permanent network link to Mars within the next two years. As Cerf outlined in a recent talk, the 'InterPlaNet' protocol is designed to handle the delay caused by interplanetary distances. A signal traveling between the Earth and Mars can take up to 20 minutes."
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Building the Interplanetary Internet

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  • by 8127972 ( 73495 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:34AM (#18108894)
    ... need online pr0n too.
  • Screw that (Score:4, Funny)

    by elhondo ( 545224 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:34AM (#18108900)
    Martian porn takes too long to download.
    • by NewWorldDan ( 899800 ) <> on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:15PM (#18109458) Homepage Journal

      Martian porn takes too long to download.

      It's worth the wait, dude, trust me. If you like what you see in Tokyo or Bangkok, just wait until you see the freaky shit out of Mars.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by sprag ( 38460 )
      Its always too long to wait for tentacle porn!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:36AM (#18108922)
    My parents recently moved my family to Mars. I'm an avid gamer, but I'm now having a hard time playing online games as my ping is frequently 20 minutes or more. I've added 8 CPUs to my network card, but it hasn't helped the situation any. I'm wondering if anyone has found any solutions to this problem? I'm looking into using wormholes or possibly bending space-time in some other way, but I'm just not sure where to direct my efforts. I really miss playing Doom XV online, and I hear Duke Nukem Forever will be out soon, so any help would be appreciated.

  • Other spacecraft have talked back to earth continuously. What exactly makes this work new?
    • Open protocol (Score:4, Insightful)

      by everphilski ( 877346 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:40AM (#18108978) Journal
      This would be a protocol that would bind in with TCP/IP. Former space missions used protocols invented by the companies that built the hardware, not necessarily a common framework. This should change all that...
    • by Washizu ( 220337 ) <> on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:41AM (#18108990) Homepage
      "leading a NASA effort to create a permanent network link to Mars within the next two years"

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by peragrin ( 659227 )
        I am actually surprised no one has done this before. The Nasa people can figure out specifics, but a number of comm satellites in mars orbit, plus an number in ours to act as relays to mission headquarters.
        Your talking about maybe a dozen total communication relays, and then every probe sent to mars would only need to be able to reach orbit saving lot's of power for other tools and test equipment.

        Charge the ESA, russia, or anyone else a bit of cash for relay use, and help pay for it.

        Just hope they
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by yincrash ( 854885 )
      from the article

      "We are working on standardising the protocols to enable spacecraft communicate and share information across the solar system," Cerf said while delivering a talk on the 'Future of the Internet'. "Communication between a rover operator on Earth and a rover on Mars, via a relay orbiter, can't use standard Internet protocols end-to-end. That problem is at the root of a lot of the design work we're doing for the IPN... As part of the NASA Mars mission programme, the project aims to have by 2008

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by skoaldipper ( 752281 )
      I think this is news now since one node of the future IPN is scheduled to be functional by 2008. The article doesn't specify in what way though; albeit a new orbiting satellite (gateway) around Mars, or just reprogramming some existing Mars mission device already deployed (to test the IPN protocol).

      I like pretty pictures and diagrams. So, I found a good presentation [] by Cerf back in 2000 which outlined these challenges and why [] we need the IPN.
  • Priorities (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Phisbut ( 761268 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:37AM (#18108932)
    Parts of this planet we live on don't even have access to a broadband Internet connection, and now they want to plug Mars on the network? Talk about priorities...
    • Parts of this planet we live on don't even have access to a broadband Internet connection, and now they want to plug Mars on the network? Talk about priorities...

      Well, isn't it always about the last mile? :)
      • by HTH NE1 ( 675604 )
        Well, isn't it always about the last mile? :)

        Except here we're talking about the last 2.7 AUs of conjunction.
        • Except here we're talking about the last 2.7 AUs of conjunction.

          Right!!! If NASA pulls this off, then I can take that argument to my local phone company. I'll convince them that if NASA can connect a line like that, then the phone company should have no problem getting DSL or FIOS lines to me.
    • Re:Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Archangel Michael ( 180766 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:41AM (#18108994) Journal
      Because we all know that we can't do both at the same time ....
    • Re:Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)

      by dcskier ( 1039688 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:45AM (#18109052)
      Parts of this planet don't have broadband yet for economic reasons, this is more of a technical problem to solve. Apples and Oranges.

      It makes sense to be looking and working towards the future, this sounds like an interesting project.
      • Re:Priorities (Score:4, Informative)

        by Paulrothrock ( 685079 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:40PM (#18109790) Homepage Journal

        I live within a half mile of one of the most expensive schools in my state (Franklin & Marshall). Almost all of the kids drive brand new cars, many of them luxury cars. They're able to pay for high speed broadband and would spring for 10Mbps symmetrical connections even if they cost $100/month, just because Mommy and Daddy would pay for it. Because of the population density, a few last-mile (more like last-fifteen-feet) runs would make whoever did it tons of money.

        But they don't. Why? Because the only two carriers in the city (Comcast and Verizon) are already making tons of money giving sub-par service, and there's no other competition to force them to innovate thanks to our wonderful state government. I can't even get Embarq because Verizon has the CO locked down, and Embarq isn't my "local carrier."

        If the state government got rid of the monopolies on cable and phone lines, we'd see some movement.

        • Re:Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Macka ( 9388 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @01:18PM (#18110308)

          Amazing isn't it. As a UK citizen I used to think that America was this democratic utopia of free trade, where healthy competition between companies resulted in the best deal for customers anywhere. I mean, your prices are so much lower than ours, so it must work right?

          I remember first becoming aware that things weren't quite right when (several years ago) I read about the dysfunctional state of the cell phone network across the USA, and the fact that I could send SMS messages to come people, but not to others because of interoperability's between network vendors. Then I learned about the draconian restrictions the cell phone networks place on their customers, like multi-year tie in clauses and crippled phone functionality.

          But the scales really got knocked from my eyes when the California blackouts happened in 2000, caused by Enron's manipulative energy trading. People died because of that. What a mess!

          Now I read about this. What went wrong guys? Capitalism was never supposed to be as f*cked up as this.

          • Re:Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Paulrothrock ( 685079 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @01:47PM (#18110746) Homepage Journal

            Capitalism isn't supposed to be anything except profitable. It's not supposed to provide services well. It's not supposed to interoperate well. It's not even supposed to keep people alive. It is supposed to maximize profits by any means necessary.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            Have you ever been out to the rural parts of your country? Here in Bavaria(which was a part of West Germany) broadband is FAR from universal. Ditto for cell phone signal. Some towns just don't have it, and someone at Deutsche Telekom told me that they pretty much never will. The "fact" that broadband and cellphone coverage is "universal" in western Europe is nothing but a myth. Europeans just refuse to admit their system isn't perfect either. Probably just because they like feeling sanctimonious, but
          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by kv9 ( 697238 )

            What went wrong guys? Capitalism was never supposed to be as f*cked up as this.

            slashdot wisdom []

      • Re:Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)

        by MightyYar ( 622222 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @01:00PM (#18110074)
        It's probably political as much as economic. Many countries have government-granted monopolies for their phone companies, and these lumbering monopolists have little reason to change the infrastructure.

        Add to that the class of nations run by people who find it convenient to keep the populace ignorant (China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc), and you have a practically insurmountable problem, no matter how much money is diverted from NASA to broadband connections for the unconnected.
    • Re:Priorities (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Washizu ( 220337 ) <> on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:46AM (#18109072) Homepage
      What are you doing to connect rural societies? You're just sitting here commenting on slashdot! Talk about priorities...
    • Parts of this planet we live on don't even have access to a broadband Internet connection, and now they want to plug Mars on the network? Talk about priorities...

      It's called picking the low-hanging fruit. There's no Verizon on Mars so putting in a good Internet connection should be pretty easy.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        I'm not aware of any places except maybe near the North or South Poles where people don't have access to two-way satellite Internet like DirectPC.

        Yes, ping times for games might be crappy, but downloads are quite speedy once you get going (though "chatty" stuff with lots of small messages like Peer-to-Peer also can suck.)

        Again, it's economics. I suppose you'll be able to find political hack whiners claiming $80 a month is a "huge ripoff, the gubmint must get involved"; nevermind the investments made to bri
        • I'm not aware of any places except maybe near the North or South Poles where people don't have access to two-way satellite Internet like DirectPC.

          Have you ever actually used one? Everybody I know who has one (dozens of people) hate it. VPN is unusable, web surfing hurts (try doing AJAX with 3-6 second response times) and ssh is break-out-the-modem time. As you mention, games are unplayable.

          The once case you do cite, downloads, is OK, though a bit slow.

          Oh, and the entire network can crash for hours to day
      • by Aladrin ( 926209 )
        Yes, it's getting subscribers and currency exchange that'll be a bitch. []
    • For many of those countries, having broadband internet is not exactly a top priority. When it starts with:
      -avoiding war areas.
      -securing clean food and water supply.
      -having access to decent medical services and education.
      -getting a job that pays more than the poverty level. ...
      then even slow internet is a luxury that comes way behind a decent home, clothes, meat, a vehicule, electricity, a TV...
    • by Stween ( 322349 )
      IPN is closely related to Delay Tolerant Networking (DTN) [], which has more potential applications than just interplanetary networking. There's a whole bunch of uses for this stuff that can include real-life sensor networks, healthcare scenarios, emergency situations, and periodic shipping of data to isolated communities. Many situations where you either don't have a network connection, or you can't guarantee a network connection, can make use of some of this stuff.

  • While the latency would make it almost impossible, I would love to play a game of Doom on a Martian server.

    • Unless you were there. Doomcon 2010: On the surface of mars.
    • On the bright side, the latency of someone on Mars playing against someone on Phobos isn't that bad.
      According to google: (2 * 6 000 kilometers) / the speed of light = 40.0276914 milliseconds
      Which is better than what i get playing with people in the US from Israel.
    • "almost"? Have you ever seen what Doom does online? Doom sends EVERYTHING over the network. Newer games at least have decent netcode.
  • Ping (Score:5, Funny)

    by PIPBoy3000 ( 619296 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:39AM (#18108960)

    Pinging [] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from bytes=32 time=1199990ms TTL=1200000
    Reply from bytes=32 time=1199997ms TTL=1200000
    Reply from bytes=32 time=1200030ms TTL=1200000
    Reply from bytes=32 time=1200017ms TTL=1200000

    Ping statistics for
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 1199990ms, Maximum = 1200030ms, Average = 1200016ms
    • Re:Ping (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Coffee Warlord ( 266564 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:41AM (#18108992)
      We have a colony on Mars, but we're STILL using IPV4. God help us. :)
    • Sounds like an old joke [] I read somewhere.
    • Re:Ping (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Steve Cox ( 207680 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:54AM (#18109150)
      From the presentation on IPN I saw a few years back, it appears that you wont be pinging they actually fancy adding a couple of levels to get some real TLDs.....


      When I saw the .sol in the presentation I was pretty impressed... theres a little bit of future proofing in that one....

      • by IPFreely ( 47576 )
        Yeah, but you just know that everyone will want a .sol domain no matter where they are. I means, seriously, who would want a .beta.cancer or a .apus domain?
        • Naw, I hear the very best blog on the InterStellarNet is htj://newsofthegalaxy.northcontinent.iv.tau.ceti
      • Re:Ping (Score:5, Interesting)

        by $RANDOMLUSER ( 804576 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:20PM (#18109504)
        Now it's really future-proof
      • by kabocox ( 199019 )
        When I saw the .sol in the presentation I was pretty impressed... theres a little bit of future proofing in that one....

        so will that mean all earth based websites will need earth.sol tacked on at the end? I think that NASA needs to come up with an IP spec that includes the computers GPS location. Um, currently GPS as far as I know just applies to Earth. NASA need to come up with a scheme of mapping the entire solar system for gps addresses.

        If I'm pinging
    • But will Mars have an open mail relay for me to send Vigr1@ and refinancing spam to the rover?
  • by Marbleless ( 640965 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:43AM (#18109038)
    Forget Sealand, build a torrent server on Mars and see what the MPAA does :)
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
    • by StressGuy ( 472374 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:11PM (#18109388)
      OHHHH!....that makes me VERY ANGRY!!! (huff huff huff)....Very Angry INDEED!!!!
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Loconut1389 ( 455297 )
      But if the US gets there first, will we claim the whole planet? Its not like there's contintents.. So- will we claim all of mars, or not? If so- then it might be considered a territory of the US and MPAA still would have reign/rights.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by PieSquared ( 867490 )
        The Outer Space Treaty says no.... but will that really hold when people start trying to develop commercial interests outside earth? It doesn't deal with private industry very well, pretty much saying their gov't is responsible for them.

        Moreover I have to assume that eventually people will actually begin to *live* on mars. First just to work, sending money back, but eventually bringing families over and having kids and such... and at that point they'll start thinking about making a new country. And then
  • I have a feeling they're going to title this protocol: RFC 1149-I (I for Interstellar / Interplanetary) s []

  • The Galaxy-Wide-Web!!! And imagine the texting fun! Free VoIP Calls from Phobos and Deimos!
  • 20 minutes! (Score:3, Funny)

    by alcmaeon ( 684971 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:52AM (#18109128)
    A 40 minute ping really sucks for gaming and means no one is going to let you play.
  • by ( 67146 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @11:58AM (#18109210) Homepage
    I wonder what the acceptable max latency could be for 2 way communications. We have become quite used to having near immediate mode communications, and computer networks are possibly dependant on it. At what duration in time does distributed computing fall down? What is the maximum time to live on a TCP packet?

    I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how they address these sorts of issues. Also, does this not relate to RFC 1149 []? Certainly the latency issue is common.

    • by Dirtside ( 91468 )

      I wonder what the acceptable max latency could be for 2 way communications.

      Months or years. Keep in mind that people used to communicate over long distances via hand-written letters, and that was the only option.

      If you mean semi-realtime communication (sitting and waiting for an answer) most people won't put up with latencies longer than a minute or so. While you're waiting for a reply you can go do something else, and at that point, you might as well just be using email.

    • by jandrese ( 485 ) <> on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:10PM (#18109376) Homepage Journal
      The maximum TTL on a TCP/IP packet is 256 (I'm pretty sure it's unsigned). Of course that means absolutely nothing in this context because the TTL is only decremented (by one) when your packet goes through a router (it's designed to reduce the damage caused by routing loops). That said, there are timeouts in the TCP 3 way handshake that make setting up a regular plain vanilla TCP connection with Mars impossible unless you can figure out a way to exceed the speed of light. That's why you have to switch to IPN on the long hop to Mars and run applications that don't care about 20 minutes worth of delay. The applications are really the hardest part, you either have to set up fancy proxies or specifically build your application to handle long delays.
      • This will prompt development of personal proxies, computer programs that will simulate YOU and provide the same or similar answers like you would if you could interact in real time. The person on Mars would IM the proxy and get a response. The conversation would then be sent to you on Earth. With the 20 minute delay you would then review the results and concur or send a revised response. Assuming they are good enough the proxies response would not get revised that often if at all.

        Of course some peop
    • Have you not read about the TSP/LP connection done using carrier pigeons? This has been used for Comp Sci teachers for years as an example of how network "layers" work such that TCP is over Ip is over the physical link and how you can swap out layers without effecting the other layers. It was purly just a teaching point, until a few years ago...

      Then it was done for real, using live birds to carry the data. I think they tried a Ping and maybe a telnet session. There is a real RFC written up on this. Not
  • Complaining about the lag.
  • Wouldn't the obvious answer be to have a big cache on Mars, that refreshes itself at night/periodically during day, so that they can have access to stuff fast locally, and with 20-minute delay for "sync with earth"?
    • How many hard drives would that take? The Internet has terabytes of information and growing rapidly everyday. By the time they could do a massive cache server, It would need more then 1 petabyte of space.
  • by Valdez ( 125966 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:22PM (#18109530)
    Now, IANACG, so check my math. ;)

    Mars is, roughly, between 50 and 250 million miles away from earth, depending where we are in our solar orbits. Recently, the closest it's been in a long while is nearly 35 million miles (back in 2003 according to the Intertron)... but the distance swings rapidly as we race around our orbits... it can go from 40 million to 200 million in the space of a few months. I'm using 50 million as a rough average for the sake of illustration.

    Given the speed of light, as fast as we think we can go, is *only* 670 million mph... that means the fastest one way trip we think anything can do is still going to take 4.5 minutes... it'll be better when it's closer (just over 3 minutes) and worse when it's on the opposite side of the sun (22 minutes)... and remember thats just one way!

    Even if we plant a colony on mars, you won't be seeing ms ping times between earth.sol and mars.sol until there a breakthrough in our understanding of physics and we figure out how to go faster than the speed of light.

    For those who didn't want to bother to read this post, if you want to play Halo XXV on a Mars server, you'll need to figure out a way to communicate with that installation at superluminal speeds.

  • What a fun project! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by FuzzyDaddy ( 584528 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:22PM (#18109536) Journal
    I had a friend who was doing some consulting for a company that wanted to offer satellite based internet connectivity. When they first tried out the system, things took forever to download, despite the fact they had many Meg of bandwidth. Each picture that loaded involved a separate TCP/IP connection, which takes several back and forth messages to establish - which was sluggish because of the latency going to the geosynchronous satellite. (This was several years ago, and all the vendors have very sophisticated understanding of the issues).

    With a twenty minute delay, the standard practice of resending dropped packets becomes more prohibitive (the send/NAK/resend would take an hour!), so you'd have to make the encoding redundant enough so that most errors could be recovered by the receiver - without doubling the bandwidth. Oh, it would be fun!

    Ok, I'll go back to writing documentation now. >sigh

  • we can ask him how to build a better Slashdot search engine also? dupe! []
  • So this means that the SLA will state that an acceptable ping time to the backbone is 40 minutes?
  • by alexmcmorris ( 1067264 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:36PM (#18109726)
    InterPlaNet? When the time comes is Pluto going to get shafted again?
  • by hellfire ( 86129 ) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [vdalived]> on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:37PM (#18109746) Homepage
    We can test it by using it on the moon first, and use it to download porn of Amazon women. I bet there will be plenty of volunteers to test that out.
  • I hear that Google is already getting sued by the Martians over copyright violations.
  • It's silly to be talking about Mars bases, etc., when we haven't even done a sample return mission yet. A sample return could go a long way toward settling the question of whether there's actually microbial life on Mars.

    As this stuff gets more complex, it totally makes sense to do anything you can do to cut down on the complexity. If landers only need a low-power radio, and a low-gain antenna, in order to talk to a permanenet orbiting comm satellite, that's a big reduction in complexity.

    Another logic

  • by PermanentMarker ( 916408 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @12:55PM (#18110010) Homepage Journal
    Just an idea why not used entangled atoms to bypass this distant problem?.
    As far as i know there is no limit on distance, changes in one atom happens at the same time on the other atom altough they are on different locations. Thats a quantum physic property

    But i'm not sure if information can be passed trough this method (wel hack thats worth investigation)
    • Because any energy you apply to either particle of an entangled pair disentangles them. There is no Royal Road to the Ansible through entanglement.
    • by l4m3z0r ( 799504 ) <kevin AT uberstyle DOT net> on Thursday February 22, 2007 @02:06PM (#18111038)

      Not possible according to wikipedia:

      As a result, measurements performed on one system seem to be instantaneously influencing other systems entangled with it. But quantum entanglement does not enable the transmission of classical information faster than the speed of light (see discussion in next section below).

      and here:

      Although no information can be transmitted through entanglement alone, it is possible to transmit information using a set of entangled states used in conjunction with a classical information channel. This process is known as quantum teleportation. Despite its name, quantum teleportation cannot be used to transmit information faster than light, because a classical information channel is required.

    • by mhall119 ( 1035984 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @02:11PM (#18111086) Homepage Journal
      You can transmit information this way, but not faster than light.

      The problem is that whenever you observe one atom, the super-position collapses instantaneously for both. That means the receiver needs to know that the sender has already measured the atom on the sending end before observing their atom on the receiving end, this would have to be done by a standard, non-FTL signal. You also have the problem of not being able to collapse the super-position into a specific value (say 0 or 1), so while the receiver would know what state the sender's atom is in, that state is a random value (0 or 1), so no data is actually conveyed.

      The first problem may be overcome with some time-based scheme, where the sender and receiver have syncronized clocks, and have agreed at what time the sender will measure his atom. The problem with random waveform collapse, however, would be harder to overcome, though I think the quantum computers in recent articles have managed to make it slightly less-random.
  • A communication network of sats were planed for Mars. W's budget killed it. I have been thinking that perhaps a system of nanosats could handle the comm, as well as provide a simple GPS and other sensors (different sats carry different sensors, some could carry simple camera, etc). The interesting thing is that the same thing can be used for the moon to enable comms anyplace on the moon esp while traveling on the backside. This is because the Martian atmosphere is thin enough that even a slow uhf radio wou
  • UUCP and USENET were good analogs, with "latency" usually being "less than an hour" or "less than a day" but sometimes "less than a week. Heck, there was one outfit that got USENET feeds by TAPE every week.

    A 747 full of HD-DVDs or Blue-Rays has high bandwidth but terrible latency.

    Any reason UDP's "send and forget" with an appropriate application- and link-level protocol can't be used? Of course, this would only be useful for non-latency-sensitive applications, such as a scheduled "push" of data, where the
  • ...but that's very, very good news for NNTP []!

    And so the "Net of a Million Lies" is begun.

  • never get first post with a 20 minute lag.

  • by BeProf ( 597697 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @01:37PM (#18110590)
    ATTN: The President/Ceo
    From: Martian Barrister Bob N'g'w'll'ac
    Utopia Planitia Law Firm
    Legal Practitioners

    Confidential Proposal/Investment Assistance.

    Greetings and love to you in the name of the most high Xenu from my beloved planet Mars. I am sorry and I solicit your permission into your privacy. I am Martian Barrister Bob N'g'w'll'ac, lawyer to the late Prince Grunthor eldest son of the late former Emperor of Mars late Warlord Xandor.

    My former client late Prince Grunthor died in a plane crash in the year 2094. Upon the death of my former client and unknown to the family that is currently under house arrest and undergoing prosecution in the hands of the present administration as a result of human right violation and looting of the planet's treasury by the late head of state Warlord Xandor.

    Before the death of my client he had deposited 90,000,000.00 Martian Mega-bucks with a secret security firm in two trunk boxes in my name, and I am the only authority to this fund which he was to transfer off world few days after he died in a plane crash.

    This fund was deposited with the security firm in my name because my client stole this fund from the planet's treasury and he did not want anyone to know that he is associated with the fund in question not until the fund is successfully moved off world.

    The security firm does not know the actual content of the trunk boxes, my client and I told them that the boxes contains old Martian artifacts to be delivered to a client off world via Interplanetary Courier Services. For now it is only you and I that is having knowledge of this fund, and the only assistance I require from you is to help me receive this fund in either Amsterdam, London or Spain depending on our country of agreement and possibly invest it abroad in your area of advice.

    This fund shall be disbursed accordingly as follows: 25% for the recipient (you) from the total sum(90MMMB). 2% for the courier officer in the country where you shall receive the trunk boxes. 5% set aside from the entire sum for expenses incurred by both parties in due course of executing this transaction (home and abroad). 68% for me.

    If you are not satisfied with the percentage sharing of the fund feel free to let me know. In compliance with this you are to immediately forward to me by mail the following: Your full names and address Confidential space phone and space fax numbers.

    With this information I will immediately commence all necessary documentation for a successful shipment of the first trunk box to your country of choice as all the modalities have already been worked out by me. I will also give you full details of this whole transaction which I have already perfected in due course.

    Please note that you are to treat this with utmost confidentiality willing or not willing to assist me in this transaction as nobody knows about this fund and I am still an active lawyer in this country.


    Remain blessed in the name of XENU.
    Yours faithfully Martian Barrister Bob N'g'w'll'ac
  • by ELiTeUI ( 591102 ) on Thursday February 22, 2007 @02:04PM (#18111018)
    Don't underestimate the bandwidth of a transporter beam full of tapes !

10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0.