Regrowing Lost Body Parts Getting Closer All the Time 210
[TheBORG] writes "There are two stories on Yahoo! News about regrowing lost body parts. One is about regrowing lost fingers & limbs and the other one is about regrowing teeth. The story about regrowing lost fingers and limbs talks about the experimental use of powdered pig bladder to regrow fingers and eventually lost limbs for soldiers and others in need from information that Pentagon-funded scientists hopefully learn from studying the salamander. The story about regrowing teeth talks about how Japanese scientists used primitive cells and injected them into a framework of collagen. Once grown to a certain point, scientists implanted the growths into mice where the teeth developed normally."
I'm an idiot! (Score:4, Funny)
Could it be? (Score:5, Funny)
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Pig parts? (Score:5, Interesting)
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The Muslims, however, are still debating it [islamonline.net], as far as I can tell.
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There is a religious sect in the USA which has a similar memetic restriction against blood transfusion. Also, a rather large percentage of the US population has
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Possibly. I think so myself. But I wouldn't count religion out yet. It's been around for a long, long time.
Religious people will tell you that secular societies have no heart or moral base, and that is itself maladaptive. If they do not take care of the weakest among them, for example, they'll miss out on important contributions by those who didn't happen to be fortunate or strong enough at some point.
More importantly, religion gives people a way to work together. You can dismiss
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Hey, that's not fair! We only exported a few of them, your own fault for letting the stuff multiply.
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You are incorrect. I am quite fond of many. The use of the word "meme" in no way implies any sort of religion using any definition I know of.
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</tongue in cheek>
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They're using mice cells to regenerate mice teeth. For humans, they'd use human cells. Ideally, your own.
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Re: Looks like you're about to get pwned. Yeah! (Score:2)
They don't care, because god can spontaneously regenerate lost body parts at will... Oh that's right, he can't. Lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnQ22CsLMQo [youtube.com]
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No, this proves that certain fundamentalist elements of certain faiths are "perverted and anti-progressive". Do be careful where you swing that broad brush.
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And you, sir, just provided all the proof anyone will ever need to stand up and argue for their religion.
The only religion that's by-nature perverted and anti-progressive is capital-A Atheism. Every other religion admits a discordance with what science can prove and what they believe. Only Atheism stands up and says "I know that you are wrong, and it's a scientific fact."
(I mean no disrespect to lowercase-a atheists, for whom the term "agnos
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There are dumb people everywhere - Also the ones who are atheist. I don't agree with them all. One of them [wikipedia.org] even wrote a book. Now he, is a prime example of atheists being as dumb as religious people. Just because he has exclaimed himself to be the cult leader of all that is atheistic, doesn't mean other people are.
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You must be new to religious debate on the internet! So let's clear this up: Atheism is a religion like not-collecting-stamps is a hobby.
Yes, even the atheists who are convinced that religion is harmful to humanity, and actively work to dispel religious ideas (what you might mean when you say "capital A") are not religious--just as people who work to prevent communist or racist ideologies from spreading are not practicing
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Troll Moderation (Score:2)
Why is this man's opinion moderated as "Troll?" Why is it acceptable to question every conceivable human idea EXCEPT for religious ideas?
Moderators: Without criticism and questioning, there is no progress! Lets keep the Spanish Inquisition out of Slashdot moderation--even when the criticism is controversial and passionate!
This man's opinion about the effect of religion on medical technology was on-topic and relevant. Yes, it was stated strongly, but I have seen more emotive at
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Because he's trolling.
It's not. You've been around here enough to realize that's not the case. The problem is that the average Slashdot poster opens a "discussion" with ad homs, straw men and other logical faux pas. And that's exactly what the GP poster has done. For example:
Negative tags that the
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our three major weapons are -1 Troll, -1 Flamebait, and -1 Overrated.
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Not in a democracy. If they can vote, they make the policy that affects YOUR life. So your options are either to overthrow your democratic government or to convince these people to abandon their anti-science religious ideas.
Misleading headline (Score:4, Funny)
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Ah, yes. That totally deunobfuscated it for me. It's my damned shovels I want proper handles on, more now than ever.
Question to a doctor I'd like to kill (Score:5, Funny)
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Sorry, but I can't resist... (Score:2, Funny)
John Bobitt, you reading this?
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Re:Question to a doctor I'd like to kill (Score:5, Insightful)
We're talking about involuntary and medically unnecessary genital mutilation of infants. We're talking about cutting off part of your dick. That bears repeating: We're talking about taking a knife to your dick and cutting off part of your dick. The fact that you're not on your way to your nearest Rabbi right now to have part of your dick cut off entirely invalidates and undermines your position.
Not only that, but you say You can't complain without having experienced it both ways. Oh, and if you are one of the few men that have lived both ways, your opinion doesn't matter. QED.
What amazes me is people who say "What's the big deal?" If it's no big deal for it to happen (which requires time and effort and has no logical or medical basis) then it's certainly less of a deal not to do it at all (which requires neither time nor effort, and doing nothing does not require a reason), therefore the logical choice is not to do it. When someone is old enough to make a conscious decision to have their genitals mutilated they can feel free (can't you hear the stampede of men rushing to have it done?).
Just remember, your lack of knowledge and understanding of the issue of male genital mutilation does not make your position the right one. You clearly demonstrate your dearth of insight (bifurcation, believing the issue is only about the possession or not of a foreskin, logical self-contradiction), so before you so quickly dismiss and insult people passionate about the topic perhaps you should try learning a thing or two first.
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Notice that I neither said that circumcision was good nor bad. I even went so far as to say that the benefits and drawbacks can be debated. I only targeted one single point of your post that was untrue, and you validated it. In response, you made an absurd statement and tried to attribute it to me.
Dorsal slit. (Score:3, Informative)
I agree, I want that bit of my dick back.
Re:Dorsal slit. (Score:4, Insightful)
Not to repeat the same argument over and over, but you represent an odd 0.001% of population. Does that warrant cutting the rest of people's genitals?
People seem to want to justify their existing condition... Feels eerily like Stockholm syndrome to me. Just like was pointed out before, it's probably not that big of a deal either way; however for all the respect we have for human rights, why is cutting a tiny baby penis justified by something that is "not a big deal"?
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Thank you for that insight into the personal tastes of three billion people you'll never meet.
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Now that's an insane argument. No matter what your wife/girlfriend tells you, they don't like a natural penis?
I'm from Europe and I have never even seen a circumsized dick in my life (or heard of anyone who has it). I guess there's not enough Jews around here anymore.
And I must say you have a problem with yourself if you think a natural penis looks like a "shriveled up turd".
Now I don't give a shit if you or your parents keep the Jewish tradition of cutting of parts of the penis, but don't assume that the rest of the world would also like to do it.
Personally I think it's seems like a weird tradition, but looking around the globe you will find tons of pointless illogical traditions being upheld because a grandfather did it, so whatever floats your boat I guess.
Just don't assume that the rest of the world looks upon a particular tradition of your culture as the norm or ideal.
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Actually, here in the U.S. I've heard plenty of comments about women being gross when they don't shave their armpits. To a lot of Americans many natural things are considered gross and wrong.
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You don't necessarily have to experience both cut and uncut do know which is better. Instead we can easily deduce which is better by the fact that the foreskin contains about 10,000 nerve endings. Nerve endings for sensation. (This is why the first push for circumcision in the US was to prevent excessive masturb
Because it's not analogous. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Because it's not analogous. (Score:5, Informative)
every time i hear someone say that FGM is 'worse' than MGM, i get sick to my stomach. NO baby deserves to be cut. NO child deserves to be cut. NO adult deserves to feel as if he/she is "less than" because they were NOT cut. NO one should be shamed or guilted into cutting themselves or their children.
there are forms of FGM that are analogous to MGM. there are forms of MGM that are as atrocious as the worst forms of FGM. and there are worse things people do to kids too.
i was clitoridectomized, hoodectomized, and nymphectomized (lost clitoris, hood and labia) to MDs in KANSAS in the 1950s. and i am a WASP female. i've written an entire book about it. "the rape of innocence" -- at amazon.
and i work with people to help them clear their fear, their trauma. so i personally don't think there's much point in debating the pros and cons and who wins the prize for the 'worst' genital cutting. i think it's all atrocious, barbaric, SO middle ages or even before, and needs to be STOPPED immediately. what on earth is a modern country doing, cutting babies genitals? i am beginning to think the 'kink' factor is far greater than the 'health' claims. who on earth is so obsessed with babies' genitals that they insist on cutting them? this is very, very sick stuff.
"circumcision" or whateve you care to call it, tortures and traumatizes everyone connected with it. even the practitioners have to steel their heats, close their hearts, so they can do it. nurses hate it. doctors hate it. parents have to go into denial. children protest, even tho adults will swear that the baby LIKED it... just like rapists, child abusers swear that the children they abuse liked it. it's childhood sexual abuse to the max.
everyone deserves to have a whole, healthy, functional body... males and females. everyone deserves to be safe and protected, loved and respected... males and females.
get with the program. protect babies. protect children. don't let anyone cut them. they don't deserve to be treated like that.
thank you for reading this rant. :)
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it's easier to keep clean
This one always makes me laugh. How difficult do you think it is - could it possibly be more complicated than washing behind your ears or between your toes? And would you really turn down an excuse to spend an extra two seconds touching yourself in the shower? ;)
I feel no sense of loss or deprivation, and although I'll willingly admit that I don't know what I'm missing, I don't much care either.
As another poster pointed out, many women who were "circumcised" feel the same way. They don't know what they're missing, and they don't care. That's hardly an excuse for doing it, though - if you had been blinded at birth, you wouldn't know what
Re:Because it's not analogous. (Score:4, Informative)
Surprise. You live in a culture where circumcision is common, presumably. Every girl I've been that has expressed a preference thought that circumcised dicks looks weird. People at the very least get used to what is common in their culture, and often prefer that which they see as "normal".
it's easier to keep clean,
Whenever I hear this argument, it makes me want to stay ten feet away from whomever makes it, as that person clearly have problems understanding how water and soap works, and the entire concept of "washing"... Hint: It pulls back. One swift motion, and any hygiene "issues" are exactly the same as if it was circumcised. Do you also not wash behind your ears because it's hard to get to? Or clean your ass? Eww..
and apparently I have a greatly reduced risk of contracting AIDS and one or two other STIs due to reduced risk of membrane abrasion. Score!
And this time I worry on behalf of your sexual partners. The reduction in risk is so small that it makes no practical difference if you use a condom. If you're irresponsible enough to not use a condom... well then you deserve everything you'll likely get.
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if you ever had a lover who was circumcised, you might notice a big difference between her and other women. men used to tell me, "you're DIFFERENT from other women."
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Male circumcision involves the removal of a small piece of skin which, supposedly reduces sensitivity and theoretically reduces the risk of cancer(though a lot of this seems to be related to cleanliness). It's possibly useless, and might do a slight amount of harm, but it's not really that big a deal, especially since any reputed side effects wouldn't be repaired by regrowing it anyway.
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Thanks, I'll be here all night.
Hmmmmmm... (Score:5, Funny)
Not as strange as you'd think. (Score:4, Interesting)
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The doctor sewed the end of the finger back into the palm. Effectively, this meant that he went around flashing a gang sign wherever he went.
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Regrowing Teeth (Score:2)
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The OP is fortunate it's a molar, so doesn't justify a partial, which is a whole 'nother world of problems.
William
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Pork Belly Futures? (Score:3, Funny)
Not interested yet (Score:2)
*Pours bourbon into coffee & gets on with another ISP support call*
New Meaning. (Score:2)
It seems to me, that if the product was created correctly, this could give new meaning to the phrase tooth paste.
Class clowns around the world are waiting in eager anticipation.
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Dirty Bene Tleilax (Score:2)
Obligatory Monty Python Ref (Score:4, Funny)
ARTHUR: This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
BEDEVERE: OF course, my Liege
Further research areas (Score:2, Funny)
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Bert
I have a friend who may do research in this area.. (Score:3, Informative)
John Wayne Bobbitt this is for you (Score:3, Funny)
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Hitchhikers Guide reference (Score:5, Funny)
Ambiguous title (Score:3, Funny)
New way to do sex change (Score:3, Interesting)
I heard.... (Score:2, Funny)
rip-off (Score:2)
Dr Curt Connors' Reputation (Score:2)
A better title would be... (Score:2)
I'm not impressed yet. (Score:2)
What's the improvement on just transplanting the tooth buds?
- Can they make MORE teeth than the number of harvested buds? (That's good if true.)
- Proving that they can grow teeth in an adult animal? (That's good, if true.)
But it doesn't look like any magic yet.
2) The finger tip in question wa
Fingernails (Score:2)
Makes sense. If you pull out a hair, but the root remains, the hair grows back. If you use the electroshock hair removal or other such things (which fries the hair hair down to the root) it doesn't come back.
Same with fingernails/toenails (and this one I have personal experience with). If you crush your toenail and there's some root left, it comes back. If - as I've
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mmm bacon (Score:2)
The real advance will be... (Score:2)
Regrowing Lost Body Parts Getting Closer... (Score:5, Funny)
Regrowing teeth is nice, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
Many people put off getting proper dental care until they've waited too late -- once infection starts setting in it doesn't just rot the tooth - it also rots the bone the tooth is rooted in.
So if you've got issues with your teeth and you're thinking this may be a future option - make sure you properly care for your teeth now or you may not be able to take advantage of these future options so easily.
Having a genetically engineered tooth surgically placed is one thing - it's a totally new story when your surgeon has to grind down the damaged bone in order to create a proper rooting surface (A common practice for people getting posts when they let their teeth go bad for a prolonged period).
I have also read of people prone to sinus infections losing root surfaces.
I've always had chalky teeth -- and for several years now I've been following the progress in this area. One of the first things I learned was how important it was to preserve the root surface. So don't put off proper care.
Building adjacent cells (Score:2)
Powdered Pig's Bladder? (Score:2)
Yea! I cant wait to use my woodchipper again (Score:2, Funny)
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