Material With Negative Refractive Index Created 210
holy_calamity writes "The race to build a material with a negative index of refraction for visible light has been won by researchers in Germany. The advance could lead to super-lenses able to see details finer then the wavelength of visible light, or the previously predicted invisibility cloak for visible light." From the article: "[The researcher] determined the refractive index of the material by measuring the 'phase velocity' of light as it passed through. His measurements show the structure has a negative refractive index of -0.6 for light with a wavelength of 780 nm [the far red end of the visible light spectrum]. This value drops to zero at 760 nm and 800 nm, and becomes positive at longer and shorter wavelengths."
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Free University (Score:3, Informative)
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Three points...
1. Not only won't it happen, it CAN'T happen. IQ tests are culturally biased. Comparing different cultures by measuring IQs has to many uncontrolled variables to provide meaningful results.
2. IQ test don't measure anyting other than ability to take IQ tests.
3. Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because something is politically incorrect it isn't also morally or ethically incorrect, or just plain vile and wrong.
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Well at least the hearing defect thingy is hereditary up to even the highest political circles over there. Here, I mean.
yes, but RTFA, they were not first. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:yes, but RTFA, they were not first. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:yes, but RTFA, they were not first. (Score:5, Funny)
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If the phenomenon can only be dealt with in narrow band, the 'invisibility' aspects are strictly BS. Other facets from the 'magic' of this could produce some significant benefits. Possibly higher powered microscopes, perhaps a method o
Visible spectrum and cones (Score:5, Informative)
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Human vision can extend a bit further (Score:3, Interesting)
Also if you make the source REALLY bright then apparently human vision can extend a very short distance i
Tetrachromats need not apply (Score:3, Interesting)
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http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/
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does this mean? (Score:3, Interesting)
--josh
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlord_meme [wikipedia.org]
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-nB
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This will revolutionize... (Score:4, Funny)
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Invisible to Infra-Red Heat-seekers? (Score:2)
You're So Wrong (Score:2)
Pretty cool, huh?
Negative or less than one? (Score:2)
We're always looking for ways to make light go faster than C. Customers complain about network latencies between SF and London, and we have to explain about the speed of light. Now there's an alternative to digging a fiber optic trench through the mantle of the Earth!
Re:Negative or less than one? (Score:5, Funny)
Write it in Java.
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This is a common misunderstanding. The light will always go forward, and never at a speed exceeding the speed of light. It's true that the index of refraction will be less than 1, not negative. However, it is a function of the phase velocity – the ratio of wavelength to frequency, which is a mathematical abstraction (the speed at which peaks of the wave travel). It can exceed 'c' as demonstrated he
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Re:Negative or less than one? (Score:5, Funny)
Perhaps it could go as fast as his post went over your head.
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Finally... (Score:5, Funny)
For the first time, I may have a real shot at seeing real life naked boobies
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Have you tried just looking down?
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This should come in handy... (Score:4, Funny)
Invisibility cloak? (Score:5, Insightful)
So, for a cloak to be invisible, we need it to pass light from the other end of the cloak. For this, the cloak would need to know the geometrical shape that it has currently, absorb light coming from one end, and forward it to a light emitting object on the other end of the cloak. The problem then will be that the cloak would need to know where the "eye" is to be able to map back and front ends correctly.
Am I talking non-sense here?
Re:Invisibility cloak? (Score:5, Interesting)
What happens is that left-handed (aka negative refractive index) materials will bend light away from the surface of the material instead of towards it. So making an "invisibility cloak" is not that hard. First off, to solve the problem of knowing where the eye is, you simply make the surface of the material symmetric. So for a three-dimensional object, the left-handed material needs to be spherically symmetric. They have produced an example in the microwave region for a cylindrically symmetric configuration. But the cylindrical symmetry means that the shroud will only work for certain polarizations of light.
So what happens is that when light hits the curved surface, instead of being bent in towards the center, it is bent outwards. If the refractive properties of the medium are properly tuned, what you end up doing is bending the light around the obstacle such that it leaves the medium in the same path that it would have without the obstacle. So the "invisibility cloak" works by bending light around and emitting it so that the light behaves as if there was no object. Since the medium is symmetrical, it does not matter where the source and receivers are.
For a true cloak to work will require a really neat feat of engineering because the refractive properties of the material must be constantly adjusting with the movement of the cloak.
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The UFO enthusiasts are going to be all over that one.
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For a true cloak to work will require a really neat feat of engineering because the refractive properties of the material must be constantly adjusting with the movement of the cloak.
A true cloak sounds hard, so would the easiest proof of concept then be the Invisibility Hamster Ball?
But the cylindrical symmetry means that the shroud will only work for certain polarizations of light.
Sounds like a weakness. Does
Corrections (Score:2)
Some of what you say is correct, but you're missing a fairly vital point.
There are several versions of invisibility floating around, but the most promising one (proposed by Pendry, Smith and Schurig) and the only one, as far as I'm aware, to have actually been demonstrated, DOES NOT USE NEGATIVE INDEX MATERIALS! There seems to be a great deal of confusion on this point (not helped by the summary above).
The cloak and the negative refractive index are both made possible by the advent of metamaterials. How
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Incoming light (or, in actual devices built so far, incoming microwaves) from any direction at all, are bent around the object in the middle of the cloak
and emerge on the other side just as if the object (and cloak) were not there,
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Like a sheet of glass?
It's no good asking me, I only come here for the women.
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On the other hand, I can see how this could be used for optic hardware, as th
Group vs. Phase Velocity (Score:5, Informative)
A good way to visualize the difference is to think of a ocean waves hitting a wall at an angle. The speed which with the wave itself is moving is the group velocity, but if you look at the wall, you will see the crests moving along at a different speed. (If you have trouble seeing that, make a little sketch.) There is also a nice Java applet [publicliterature.org] (GPLed!) here, which does a good job of illustrating the difference
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And it's important to point out that the material they're talking about has a negative phase velocity.
If you had a material with a negative group velocity, it would violate causality, because the information would get to its destination before it was transmitted. (In fact, any material with a group velocity n<1 would also violate causality, because according to special relativity, there would be a frame of reference in which the reception came after the emission.)
A few years ago, when the first news a
So the pencil bends the other way now? (Score:3, Informative)
Sheesh.
Transcript from Experiment (Score:4, Funny)
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What we need now: SEP fields (Score:4, Insightful)
However, what I'm really looking forward to is a Somebody Else's Problem device -- this will make all of the other foophraw unnecessary.
Nothing exotic about negative refractive index (Score:2, Informative)
Future Slashdot Article (Score:2, Funny)
One scientist quoted: "I just put it down here and now.. I can't find it!"
Original site of the researchers... (Score:5, Informative)
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Also, there's a paper [arxiv.org] available that provides more details.
Is this the actual research paper? (Score:2)
From back in August?
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http://ol.osa.org/abstract.cfm?id=119886 [osa.org] You have to keep in mind that before Arxiv.org papers (or any other pre-print archives) appear in a journal, you can't guaranteed that they have passed the peer-review process.
Peril Sensitive Sunglasses? (Score:2)
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Camera lenses (Score:5, Interesting)
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this lens [bhphotovideo.com] is probably a better example for the average bear. Twice as expensive as it's nearest realative, but it's also 2" shorter. And that can make a big difference when your walking around knocking into stuff. Is it worth it? don't know, is the picture quality any better? don't know. I would assume so, or why sell the thing at all.
cloak of invisibility -- maybe not (Score:3, Interesting)
Hasn't this already been done? (Score:2)
speed gun avoidance? (Score:2)
Does this mean if I wrap my car in this stuff, the faster I drive, the slower radar guns/lasers will clock me at? (assuming the material has -RI at those lambdas)
Detail finer than the wavelength of light... (Score:2)
I always thought that the reason you couldn't know both speed and position was because the energy of the photon changed the position of the observed particle. Now, if you can see detail from in a range that is a fraction of the wavelength of light then aren't you also observing detail from a place where the photons aren't interacting with you?
That is to say...
If uncertainty is the space under the curve of a cycle of light,
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What of holographic lenses? (Score:2)
Anyway I don't know the answer but found this page [mit.edu] which explains both holographic lenses and negative refraction and references Pendry. One of the things it states (concerning the "perfect lens" of Pendry that is possible with negative refraction materials) is:
fractional index? (Score:2, Interesting)
This value drops to zero at 760 nm and 800 nm, and becomes positive at longer and shorter wavelengths. Previously, the shortest wavelength at which a negative refractive index had been demonstrated was 1400 nm. "
how is this possible? fractional indices would imply that the li
The emperor's new clothes (Score:2, Interesting)
There are several weak points in this whole business of "Harry Potter cloaks" where physicists with little experience in electromagnetics (and even less in radar cross section reduction) go astray. To list but a few points:
Irrelevance of group velocity
It has long been known that effects like anomalous dispersion in resonant media can render classical group velocity concepts irrelevant. Sever
No pics? (Score:2)
Oh, now I get it... how to photograph invisible objects? Dumb me!
visual example (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.opticsexpress.org/abstract.cfm?id=8832
Examples (including avi's) rendered in Povray, the free raytracer. One of the authors is Chris Hormann, one of Povray's main code contributors.
Wikipedia (Score:5, Informative)
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Or Answers.com [answers.com]?
Or one of the million other places? Is it honestly that much harder for you to type the query into google than to post it to slashdot?
Re:Can someone explain a refraction index? (Score:5, Funny)
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This is why you sometimes see two of the same fish when you look at the corner of a fish tank. The light gets bent as it travels from water to glass, and a
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When you have two materials with different refractive indices up against each other, light bends by some angle (the angle depe
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Re:Can someone explain a refraction index? (Score:5, Informative)
In ordinary optics, refractive index is the ratio of the velocity of light in vacuum (c) to the velocity in the material (v):
n = c/v
Since v <= c, n >= 1 is always true.
But light, being wavelike, has two velocities associated with it: the phase velocity, which is the velocity of an individual crest in a monochromatic light wave, and the group velocity, which is the velocity of a wave packet consisting of many frequencies. Depending on which velocity you care about, and how you deal with wave packets, it appears that you can extend the definition of refractive index in such a way that negative refractive index is meaningful. The discussions of this that I have seen online are uniformly confusing, so I'm not clear on exactly what is going on, although it is clear that negative extended refractive indices do make sense.
One analogy to think about is the conventional definition of resistance: R = V/I. Clearly by this definition resistance is always positive. But if instead you think of resistance as being the slope of the V/I curve, it is clearly possible for a device whose (conventional) resistance decreases with increasing current it is possible to have a slope that is negative, and this can be treated as "negative resistance". Tunnel diodes exhibit this effect.
If one were to be gloriously pedantic about this, one would only use the terms "negative extended refractive index" and "negative extended resistance", because "negative refractive index" and "negative resistance" are confusing oxymorons to the vast majority of people in the world who are at best familiar with the conventional definitions. And in fact, we usually do make this kind of distinction. We use terms like "electric car" because "car" means "internal combustion engine hydrocarbon-powered road vehicle" to the vast majority of people. Therefore headlines like, "New Car Does Not Need Gasline" would be obviously misleading and confusing if they actually meant "New Electric Car Does Not Need Gasoline."
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Maybe, or maybe not. [google.com]
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If you'd read the article, the answers would become clear:
1) Yes: Gunnar Dolling;
2) Dunno. He has many peer-reviewed articles in Science and comparable journals; this one first showed up in June 2006 on xarchiv, but is published in the Journal of Optical Networking, Jan 2007: https://www.osa-jon.org/abstract.cfm?id=119886 [osa-jon.org]
Re:Negative OK, but why |-1| ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Basically all it means is that light is going to bend opposite of what we would normally expect. Instead of bending towards the interface, light will bend away from the interface. There's no fancy u-turns or anything like that. The negative sign is purely a consequence of the convention by which we choose our cross products when it comes to the vector form of Maxwell's Equations. Normally we use a right-hand convention, but a metamaterial behaves using the left-hand convention. This negative sign is one way of achieving the same effects using the right-hand vector convention.