Introverts Have More Brain Activity? 757
* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us Yahoo News is reporting that introverted individuals tend to have more brain activity in general, specifically in the frontal lobe. From the article: "The attitude that there's something wrong with introverted people is widely shared in society, where fast talk and snap decisions are often valued over listening, deliberation and careful planning. Extroverts seem to rule the world or, at least, the USA, which hasn't elected an introverted president for three decades, since Jimmy Carter."
Submitter is a link spammer, does /. care? (Score:5, Informative)
Am I the only person who has noticed the numerous stories that get posted by *--Beatles-Beatles? Am I also the only person who has noticed that the link used in is name is a constantly changing URL (depending on the story) with pointers to various scammy sites? Is it not obvious what he's doing? He's using the awesome PageRank of slashdot do promote his sites based on searches that have the word Beatles in them.
It's a small price to pay for free advertising. Find a story, summarize it in 5 minutes, post to slashdot, and get a pagerank boost that advertisers would pay hundreds (or maybe thousands) for. (Text links on high-ranking sites is big business - just ask oreilly).
Slashdot should at least put a ref=nofollow in the links to submitters (or better yet, only link the submitter's name to his/her user page).
In closing, a quick bit of WHOIS shows that all the sites linked by **B-B are registered to Carl Fogle. Carl, cut this crap out.
Re:Submitter is a link spammer, does /. care? (Score:5, Funny)
From the point of view of Slashdot, giving a pagerank boost is a small price to pay to get submissions that got at least 5 min of work into them.
Re:Submitter is a link spammer, does /. care? (Score:5, Funny)
How can you tell an extroverted computer geek from (Score:5, Funny)
Q: How can you tell an extroverted computer geek from an introverted computer geek?
A: The introverted computer geek will look at his shoes while he talks to you. The extroverted computer geek will look at your shoes while he talks to you.
Q: How do you tell if an Extroverted computer geek is Russian?
A: His shoes look at you while he is talking.
After 2+ years, it still doesn't get old.
Re:Submitter is a link spammer, does /. care? (Score:5, Interesting)
"Hello, please leave a message after the tone"
BEEP
Googling for his phone number [google.com] brings up a lot of information. Apparently he's in the search engine optimization business and has been spamming for a long time [statcounter.com]. And is a jerk about it too.
His website: hxxp://search-engines-web.com
Another website: hxxp://5url.com/
Google Phonebook: C Aab
stwnewspress.com: Contact Name = A. Seo
5url.subportal.com: Contact Name = A. Aab
Feel free to send him e-mail url55@hotmail.com
Re:Submitter is a link spammer, does /. care? (Score:4, Informative)
5 minutes of googeling, and I find this:
source [clickit.com]
Google says he lives here [google.com]
carl fogleweb graphic design
4120 manhattan ave
brooklyn ny 11224
Phone: 1.7189967672
Fax: 718 996 7672
and more:
Listed as a web designer [webdesignproz.com]
Fast talker (Score:5, Informative)
Maybe on your side of the pond, mate.
Vik
Re:Fast talker (Score:3, Insightful)
Thats a good way to phrase it. (Score:3, Insightful)
Think of it this way, why would anyone care who you hooked up with? and how exactly is this information good to put out there? I wont say introverts are smarter, but introverts are at least more cautious when it comes to the information they put out and the trust they put into individuals. It should be obvious.
Re:Fast talker (Score:5, Insightful)
In excess? All of the above.
In moderation? None of the above.
Just like with introverts/extroverts.
As long as you're not making your life and the lives of those around you miserable with your behavior, there's not problem. Many introverts ruin their own lives with shyness. I'd hardly call that a "smart" way to live. Likewise, many extroverts find themselves shunned as they are socially uncomfortable to be around. Either way, it's a costly mal-adjustment of behavior, and such people could probably gain from a little therapy or religion or whatever it takes to rattle their cages and see their own dysfunction for what it is.
Re:Fast talker (Score:5, Insightful)
This is a surprise? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Funny)
No, he spelled it correctly... (Score:3, Funny)
And yet you still can't spell populace right. I'd get a refund.
No, he spelled populous [reference.com] correctly; he used it incorrectly.
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Funny)
If you ever paid hard-earned cash for a "15 page intelligence and personality report" about yourself, you are probably far dumber than most people.
Well-educated, perhaps, but dumb as a sack of hammers.
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Funny)
15 pages is too long, but the idea is sound (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:5, Insightful)
I think it's why a lot of people who are intelligent and whom we think of as extroverts will admit to being introverts that have learned to fake extroversion in order to do what they want. A lot of actors, musicians, business men, etc that seem very public faces were introverts as children and return to introversion when they aren't working. Sort of an interesting twist on the whole thing I think.
Ahhhhh I like stories like this that tell me I'm smarter than everbody else!
Re:This is a surprise? (Score:3, Funny)
You got an MCSE?
Nephilium
An armed society is a polite society. -- Monroe-Alpha in Beyond This Horizon
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Re:Great subject.... (Score:5, Funny)
Even you know very well that "American Cheese" isn't really cheese. It's mostly oil, and foreign oil at that.
Reminds Me... (Score:5, Informative)
A while back I read an article in The Atlantic titled "Caring for Your Introvert [learningplaceonline.com]" by Jonathan Rauch. Absolutely great piece.
Irony (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Irony (Score:5, Funny)
People are introverts precisely for that reason. (Score:5, Insightful)
One key difference among introverts, introverts know you don't really care and stay in their own world. An Extroverts world and entire reality only exists if people in that reality allow for it.
View it like this, if you are an introvert because you don't want an overly dramatic, painful, insane life, and want actual control over your life, thats just the logical way to have control.
If you are an extrovert, you care what other people think of you, you care about others more than others care about you, and I'm not saying its wrong to care about others, but extroverts simply get attached to everyone, or no one, while introverts are very selective with whom they attach to and connect with.
It's just different strategies, if a person can put up with the pain of being an extrovert, then theres nothing wrong with it, but for others being an extrovert is impossible or difficult unless its in a very artificial way. The artificial way of being an extrovert is to pretend to care, pretend to listen to people, pretend to trust people, and pretend to be social. Example, being social at work or at school because you are supposed to, not because you actually like to or need to, this is how an introvert views.
An extrovert HAS to be social or they go insane with bordem. An extrovert HAS to feel loved or they get depressed. An extrovert MUST feel accepted, MUST feel normal, and so on and so forth.
introverts want to simply stay in their own world and enjoy their time here, and are much more time conscious in that they know its a complete waste of time to play social mind games with people.
Re:People are introverts precisely for that reason (Score:3, Insightful)
I think you're over-generalizing a little. Actually, a lot. Isn't it possible for a person to enjoy being social without being attached to everyone? Sure, an extroverted person needs to have someone to be extroverted to -- but that's a far cry from needing to be loved and accpeted by everyone, and from getting attached to everyone.
Introversion and extroversion are about what your focus is, not what you need. Some people have all the fun and energy in the world when they're with other people. Some people ha
Re:People are introverts precisely for that reason (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem occurs, however, when you meet truly boring people. The guy who works as an insurance claims adjuster and has no hobbies or interests. Thankfully that's pretty rare. Most of the time people have at least one thing about them that's truly interesting and unique, and if you get them started on that topic you can be entertained for quite awhile. As a bonus, they'll think you're the most interesting person in the world, too, since the most interesting people are those are interested in them. You better actually be interested in people, though, or you'll just find yourself getting annoyed.
Oh, but playing social mind games is fun, too.
Re:People are introverts precisely for that reason (Score:5, Insightful)
As for whoever said, extroverts need others to care about them, that can't be farther from the truth, they really just seem to have a more verbal way of self-reflecting. By talking with others, most extroverts I've known seem to realize more about themselves from either hearing other peoples experiences or just saying something about themselves aloud.
As for the parent poster stating that talking isn't hard, introverts know that, usually we genuinely just don't care and sometimes don't want to know the answer to these questions.
What about perverts? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What about perverts? (Score:3, Funny)
So you're saying you want to see my frontal lobe?
Re:What about perverts? (Score:3, Funny)
Yes yes, I think so, yes, maybe, well, no yes. YES (Score:5, Insightful)
For example; today I had an awful day. I'll think about it until tomorrow morning. My extroverted friends will shrug it off as "bad day, tomorrow is another". If in fact I do "think" more, I'll spend less time socializing as it'll cut into my thinking time.
Yesterday at a church event I attempted to be even more extroverted than normal. I was insulted in the course of the evening, a minor misunderstanding of my position, and of course it distracted me the rest of the evening as I thought about how to restate and rectify my position.
So yes, we think more but why would the thinking want to associate with the brain-dead? We don't. We fall back into our shells and think about why the world is as it is.
Re:Yes yes, I think so, yes, maybe, well, no yes. (Score:5, Insightful)
An introvert says it, but only after thinking it over, if it is the best thing to say, the timing, thinking about what others say a bunch to try to come up with good things to say, etc. An introvert can "over analyze" things like that.
Other things happen too. When I'm going to meet someone, I'll often think up entire conversations on the way. It isn't purposeful, but I think something along the lines of "I could say X", then that leads to "then they would say Y", and it continues and before you know it I've had a little conversation in my head.
I think about all sorts of stuff. I can be walking down the street and I'll start thinking about something completely irrelevant. I'm not talking about "I remember that one birthday", I'm talking about "how you could build X" which leads to how to solve problem Y, how X would be useful in situation Z, etc.
That is sort of the whole introvert/extrovert thing. Introverts do all this stuff inside. Extroverts might do these things as conversations with other people, or they might fill that "need" in some other way with normal conversation and such.
That's how I see it. I used to be more of an introvert, and I've never been an extrovert so I can't say I've had that point of view (outside of the odd situation).
Re:Yes yes, I think so, yes, maybe, well, no yes. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Yes yes, I think so, yes, maybe, well, no yes. (Score:3, Insightful)
Like many (well, MOST) things in psychology, this is a guide and nothing more. Psychology (like most disci
Perhaps (Score:5, Informative)
More information here: http://www.theintrovertadvantage.com/ [theintrove...antage.com]
Here's a quick bit from the site:
Are You One?
We all use both our introverted and extroverted skills, but we are hard wired to be more one than the other. Look at the lists below and determine which one feels more like YOU!
Not every aspect will fit exactly for you because we are all unique. If you don't feel like you fit one side more than the other, even by 51% to 49%, then ask yourself this question: If there is an emergency do you tend to stand still and feel somewhat shutdown or in slow motion? If you have a standstill reaction to stress more often, then you are probably an introvert. In a crisis do you tend to move your body immediately and feel like taking action, maybe without pausing to think? Then you are probably an extrovert if you react with movement. Under stress we can experience our innate temperament. Look over the two lists and think about how you ARE, not as you'd like to be. If your still uncertain, as a last ditch effort, ask someone you trust and who is honest to read these and suggest which one sounds more like you.
Introverts:
Extroverts:
I recommend this book if you think you are or know somebody that you think is indeed an introvert, as this book says alot about what an introvert is and what the article briefly describes.
Re:Perhaps (Score:5, Insightful)
On the other hand, many "nerds" who really struggle at small talk still crave opportunities to meet lots of people and on those rare occasions when they are on top of their game they feel energized and love it.
Being a nerd (or a geek for that matter) does not necessarily mean being an introvert.
Re:Perhaps (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, I am certainly an introvert, but in an emergency I have this tendency to act fast and usually correct without really thinking about it. I think emergency behaviour and normal situation behaviour are not necessarily correlated, at least for introverts. Or maybe introverts tend to panic into inactivity while extroverts panic into (useless, dangerous) hyperactivity, while those that keep their heads act prett
Also seen in the brain scan ... (Score:5, Funny)
Well, duh... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ever wondered why meeting people is easier when tipsy? It makes your brain shut up.
Re:Well, duh... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, no, I bet Mr. Goatse is quite extroverted.
He certainly seems to be aggressively interested in sharing his innermost feelings to all and sundry.
Quite practiced at it, too.
I would think introverts would tend to avoid analizing at nearly all costs.
Re:Well, duh... (Score:5, Interesting)
Typical extrovert thinking... "hey why don't you get drunk then you'd have fun just like me". I don't blame you for thinking that, an extrovert can't help it, they have no chance of understanding what makes an introvert tick because not only do we not care to spend the time to tell you, but you won't sit still long enough to hear it.
Here's the thing. Introverts don't want your kind of fun, we're quite happy doing our own thing, sitting down, talking quietly and thinking about stuff - that is what is fun for us, not mindless verbal diahhorea (sp?), getting drunk and hitting on anything with legs.
Re:Well, duh... (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm rather introverted, and for me it goes like this. Most of the time when I'm thinking about something I have an internal conversation with one of three distinct voices in my head. They often come to different conclusions. I mediate and come to a consensus. the short of this is that it's a lot of fucking talking going on in my head.
The other thing is that I tend to be obtuse - in social situations and be very analytical in public. This causes problems.... many people dont like to interact with someone they perceive might be smarter than they - it causes them to feel insecure. Also, many people tend to base their whole worldview on their opinions. So in what I might perceive as casual conversation ends up altering someone's world view unnecessarily... this tends to create uncomfortable conditions.
One or two drinks for me does the exact thing poster mentioned. When I drink... the other voices are quiet. They don't speak, and it's a very serene vacation from the pinball match that is my psyche. It also allows me to focus intently on more pertinent and prudent pursuits: getting laid. And getting laid is about listening and being what that chick wants right at that time.
Interestingly enough - an analogy. Marijuana is banned by the Olympic committee, even though it doesn't really give athletes an advantage. I ran track - and knew some athletes who smoked weed before meets. The reason: it takes the edge off. Being nervous and jumpy throws their rhythm off; and rhythm is everything when wins and losses are measured in the blink of an eye.
Alcohol works like that for me in a social environment. I usually get something mild or watered down - or get something strong and nurse it. Athletes call it being too keyed-up; I can imagine the equivalent exists for those who have strong cognitive faculties.
And while like you, I enjoy doing my own thing for the most part; I far more enjoy getting laid on a regular basis. You have to join the world to do this.
Re:Well, duh... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Well, duh... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Well, duh... (Score:5, Informative)
First put forward by Freud and greatly elaborated by Jung neither introvert nor extravert necessarily determines skills at either thinking or socializing. Both have to do with which mode of behavior a person finds energizing and which s/he finds draining. Because of this energizing/draining aspect it is likely, though by no means guaranteed that introverts will be drawn more to reflection and therefore become more skilled thinkers, planners, visualizers, etc than they are socializers. Conversely it is more likely, though not assured, that extraverts will become more skilled socializers than they are thinkers, visualizers, etc.
An introvert finds that directing attention inwardly (hence the term into (inward) vert (to turn)) comes easily and is energizing, while directing attention outward (for example, in social gatherings) is draining. This does not mean that introverts cannot be good at socializing. It is just that doing so is an effort. They then need alone time to recover from the socializing.
An extrovert finds that directing attention outward (hence the term extro (outward) vert (to turn)) comes easily and is energizing, but directing attention inwardly (for example reflecting on feelings or past experiences) is draining. The extrovert can become quite skilled at this interior focus but s/he will need some social time to recover from it, just as the introvert will need alone time to recover from the perceived drain of socializing.
So both types can behave in both ways. Their behavior is not what defines them as introverts or extroverts. What defines them as one type or the other is how they respond to these two spheres of activity - inward looking and outward looking - by finding one energizing, one draining, one coming easily and one requiring an effort.
Re:Well, duh... (Score:3, Funny)
Then you are a god amongst men! We worship you, oh double ended personality!
Re:Well, duh... (Score:3, Insightful)
Groupthink!! (Score:5, Funny)
I feel the karma burning, but hey, I got a 4 today, so I can afford a -1.
As always, issue of causation (Score:5, Insightful)
There is frequently an assumption that the physical (brain chemistry, electrical activity) causes the behavior (introspection), as opposed to the other way around, or some other, independent cause.
makes sense (Score:3, Interesting)
I still have to wonder about the research methodology though... You stick an introvert who likes being by himself in one machine and an extrovert who hates being by himself in another. Is it really any wonder that the person who likes being by himself has more brain activity in this situation? I think it would be better if they could somehow measure an introvert reading a book and compare that to an extrovert mingling at a party.
To Borrow a Quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
Strive for diversity, not one or the other... (Score:5, Insightful)
I try to beleive I'm a little more diverse than one word, the same way I don't describe myself as a Jew, or white, or red head, or whatever. If you are in a situation where you have to describe yourself as one word, you may be around the wrong people.
Re:Strive for diversity, not one or the other... (Score:3, Insightful)
It's also a way of gaining self knowledge, a way to explore your own psyche and those of others. Finding language you can use to describe yourself doesn't have to limit what you can be.
Anyway, you seem to be worried about being trapped by the "is" of identity. Check out E Prime [nobeliefs.com].
Re:Strive for diversity, not one or the other... (Score:5, Funny)
and I try to stretch both sides of me.
I think i've seen that photo.
Ewww. (Score:3, Interesting)
Heh. I remember Carter. His "introvertedness" if that's what it was, was beside the point. The man exuded a mopey hopelessness every time he spoke. His energy policy consisted of wearing cardigans on TV when he gave his "fireside chats", and telling us he was turning down the thermostat at the White House. His cap on gas prices resulted in gas shortages.
His foreign policy of "USA bends over and spreads them" is directly responsible for the mess that exists in Iran today, and in fact one of the hostage takers of the time is "El Presidente" of Iran today.
Carter may be capable of building houses, and beating off savage attack rabbits with a canoe paddle.
He was waaay out of his depth as a president.
Everyone should have to endure watching the man's speeches to America. Those who missed it won't understand what a dismal time that was.
As opposed to the blood-soaked 1980s (Score:3, Informative)
Cause and Effect (Score:4, Insightful)
frontal lobe (Score:5, Funny)
You know, we'd guessed....
Extraverts [sic] have political problems, too... (Score:3, Funny)
O.Q. (Score:4, Funny)
Presidents nothing, try Apprentices (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Presidents nothing, try Apprentices (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Presidents nothing, try Apprentices (Score:5, Insightful)
In representation of introverts (Score:5, Funny)
introvert != quiet (Score:5, Insightful)
That can mean that you're also quiet or a wallflower at parties, but does not at all have to be. It may just as well be that you're happily partying and jabbering away - just mostly with people you already know, preferably smaller groups, and not that often.
In fact, I prefer to see introversion as the positive difference of the clingy extrovert who can't stand being alone, who values themselves only through the eyes of others, and who has to fill their time with sounds and voices at any cost, whether if it means constantly blaring TV, spending hours on the phone saying nothing at all, or always having a boy/girlfriend just to have _someone_, since anyone, no matter what kind of creep, is better than being alone.
Re:introvert != quiet (Score:3, Insightful)
God damn you hit the nail on the head. I no longer have relationships becaues I don't need creeps. (Or children; with nano I'll live forever, blah blah blah.)
More isn't better (Score:3, Insightful)
How can you tell an extroverted engineer? (Score:4, Funny)
Thank you, I'm here all week. Try the lobster.
testimonial (Score:3, Interesting)
From the slashdot article:
I consider myself introverted but I was always excellent applying technology and creating solutions that worked and usually exceeded expectations.
That "exceptional" technology skill got me invited to lots of decision-making and planning meetings and consortiums. But people often expressed afterwards (and sometimes even during) these sessions disappointment in my seemingly lack of participation or unwillingness to "speak up". I always apologized and explained I really couldn't find it in my constitution to say something unless I had something to say.
I usually found myself deep in thought about discussions ongoing but rarely found conclusions simple, even in seemingly simple scenarios. Overall I sometimes wonder how many dings I accumulated for that trait. (I will say, I did quite well for myself reputation-wise overall.)
Curiouser and curiouser.
Carter? (Score:3, Insightful)
Give me a ****ing break [wikipedia.org]. The man has probably forgotten more friends than any ten of you will ever have.
Extra brain activity is not good (Score:3, Insightful)
Thinking of several pronounced introverts I know I'd have to say this applies; sure they're thinking a lot, but what they're doing is obsessing on little problems and turning them into full-blown crises which they can mull over and over again for maximum horrorific effect.
Of course there are real introverted geniuses. I guess they just channel it better.
Observations on conversations (Score:4, Interesting)
Seems to me like extroverts _plan_ their conversations. They might be listening to you, sure, but on some deeper level they're busy thinking of what's coming next--or perhaps looking around to see who else is around they can draw into the conversation.
I'm an introvert. I don't like a lot of "change" in my conversations--new people cause repetition, get me off on tangents, or cause the subject to change prematurely. Extroverts plan as they go for this kind of stuff--"Hey, there's Bob. Bob knows Optics. I'll get him over here and see what he has to say." My reaction to Bob's presence--unless for some reason Bob is already part of the conversation--is, "Oh, it's Bob."
Unless I've planned well ahead of time, I'm so busy trying to come up with what to say _as I'm talking_ that I don't have much ability to map out my thoughts. Even when the other party is talking, I'm too busy pondering what _they_ are saying to think about what _I_ am going to say. I converse by inspiration: if the other party doesn't give me any good inroads to a new topic, I have a hard time holding up my end--unless I don't feel the need to pay attention because, for instance, I've heard a story before. Then I'm free to sit and think about what's been said.
If I had to guess at the main mental difference between extroverts and introverts, it would really be that the former can think off the cuff and get along, whereas we introverts are compelled to reflect and concentrate, whether or not we can get along by winging it.
Extroverts bubble; introverts stew.
Re:You're kidding.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Correction, Carter CAUSED the prime rate of 18%.
Re:You're kidding.... (Score:3, Interesting)
He really is a nice guy and all but as a president, he was *the* definition of ineffective. The malaise comment, his belief that Americans should wear sweaters to conserve power (right or wrong, we won't and didn't), staying in the white house during the Iran hostage crisis, and plenty more should put the whole "most brainpower" issue to rest.
Re:You're kidding.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Whatever you think of the Carter administration, the interesting thing to me is that Jimmy Carter has been arguably one of the most effective ex-presidents we've ever seen in recent times.
The guy is out there, doing what he believes in, and making a difference. Promoting affordable housing and democracy, a couple of the USA's core values. All I can say is: Bravo.
Compare that to the rest of the recent ones: Nixon, Ford, Regan, Bush One, Clinton. Mostly they made appearances to pay the bills. And f
Re:You're kidding.... (Score:3, Insightful)
For some reason, I've always liked Carter. I believe he was the best president during my lifetime. A more objective measure [wikipedia.org] shows that he was about average with an average score of 26 out of 43.
Keep in mind that Abraham Lincoln is hovering around #1,2, or 3 on the list. He was an introvert. And would NEVER be elected to any kind of political office today. For some reason, that bothers me.
Re:USA != The world (Score:5, Funny)
What is this "World" that you speak of? Is "World" one of the Middle States? Like between Kansas and Ohio? I never could remember those.
Re:Two things (Score:5, Interesting)
Even though I am against spamming, I beg to differ on your request to ban someone from submitting articles. I know many users (examples: top ten submitters [slashdot.org]) who submit articles that are cohesive, thought out and in general good that also use their article author link to promote a site.
It seems to me that as long as the flow of the articles is coherent, insightful and fresh, this is what is important. Now yes, if every 1 out of 7 articles ever posted on slashdot was from this submitter than I would worry, but that is not the case here. The issue is on the quality of the articles, and not just based on who submits them. This is what it is about, correct? As Martin Luther King said
"a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character".
In this case, the submitters should be judged by quality of the articles they submit, not by what kind of author-link they have.
Perhaps (Score:5, Funny)
OK, we'll play it your way (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Two things (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe this isn't as much of an issue as you think it is.
Re:Two things (Score:5, Informative)
It's not you the message is intended for, it's Google. Google ranks sites at least partially (and primarily) by a method designed to determine the usefullness of a site based on links. Links from some sites count for more than others. Because
Re:Two things (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Two things (Score:5, Funny)
And here I thought he was EVIL. Oh well, live and learn. (it's a joke...laugh dammit!)
I thought he was neutral (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Two things (Score:3, Insightful)
Just because they're not a giant media whore doesn't mean they're introverted.
Re:Two things (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Two things (Score:5, Insightful)
That comment is as valid as it is contoversial.
Don't blame the parent for "flamebait" when the submitter is the one who brought American presidents in general, and Jimmy Carter in particular, into this thread.
Embiggening terrorism. (Score:5, Insightful)
However, nothing is said about Reagan's Iran-Contra deal. If you recall, this is where we traded arms for hostages. That is, Reagan appeased the terrorists. Which is just about the worst kind of message you can send. It's like writing a blank check to the bad guys. Look, if your citizens are held hostage by these people, plan a daring rescue mission if you can, but if that doesn't work out, mourn them, 'cause they're already dead.
Reagan? Goddamn appeaser.
Re:Misunderestimation (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Misunderestimation (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Misunderestimation (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Misunderestimation (Score:3, Interesting)
And Vietnam? Wha
Re:Misunderestimation (Score:3, Insightful)
So if you want to do anything about it, fight greed and all it's symptoms.
Re:As Lewis once opined... (Score:5, Funny)
The difference being that jocks get invited to sports.
I keed! I keed! I joke-a with yooooooou!
Re:Our current leader is an introvert (Score:4, Informative)
The extroverts get the fame, glory and attention. The introverts get to solve the problems. Everybody's happy.