Museum Director Indicted for Stealing NASA Artifacts 178
NBrooke271 writes "Max Ary, former Director of the Kansas Cosmosphere, has been hit with an eleven-count federal indictment, charging that he sold NASA space artifacts on loan to the museum, including an astronaut's in-flight T-shirt, a control panel from Air Force One and an Apollo 12 water valve for a personal profit of around $180,000. 'Mr. Ary, on behalf of the Cosmosphere, continued to sign documents reporting and verifying to NASA that the watch was still in its possession and collection,' said U.S. Attorney Eric Melgren. Ary currently serves as the Executive Director of Omniplex Science Museum in Oklahoma City, where he has taken a leave of absence. Read official statements from the Cosmosphere, the Omniplex, and Ary's attorney regarding the indictment."
Watch? (Score:5, Informative)
What 'watch'?
Sounds more like mismanagement, if it was still reported as present, yet missing or damaged.
Though a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/ks/press/apr2005/a pril7a.html">this looks pretty damning and has more of the detail.
A properly embedded link.. sigh. (Score:2, Informative)
I'd personally like to thank the people who made sure the keyboard loses USB focus (or whatever it is) every few seconds and drops keystrokes.
Re:A properly embedded link.. sigh. (Score:5, Funny)
A nose cone.
A NASA silk screen
A photographic spot meter
An RX3 spacesuit component.
Apollo 8 silk screens.
An Apollo 11 silk screen.
An Apollo13 bus bar battery cable that had been flown in space.
A sextant crown assembly that had been flown in space.
An in-flight crew shirt.
An Air Force One control panel.
A Noun 70 Code panel, loaned to the Cosmosphere by NASA that had been flow in space. It sold for $3,400. On April 4, 2001, Ary signed a report to NASA falsely stating the panel was still in the museum's collection.
An Apollo 12 water shut-off valve that had been flown in space.
A rotation controller.
A purge valve for a spacesuit.
A film canister.
Makes me want to go buy an airplane/auto salvage yard and Ebay off parts as "possible relics of the Soviet space program" which "may possibly" have crash landed in Bumfluck, Nebraska.
"No, No sir, that's not a hub cap from a 1971 Duster, thats the nose to Sputnik!"
Re:A properly embedded link.. sigh. (Score:3, Funny)
How about that guy in Florida, years ago (IIRC) who found a depleted uranium nose cone in his junk yard. He thought it made neat sparks when he hit it with a screw driver.
Be the govt would go ape-sh!t if something like that moved through the mail.
Mr Beasely: "Your package sure is heavy, Dagwood, what's in it?"
Dagwood: "Ab
Re:A properly embedded link.. sigh. (Score:2)
Re:Watch? (Score:2)
The one in the last sentence of that excerpt you pasted.
Re:Watch? (Score:1)
That's why I pasted it. It wasn't mentioned except in passing in the post and wasn't in any of the immediate links, so I went digging for information on it -- which led me to the DoJ site, which would have been better linked to the post.
Re:Watch? (Score:2)
Re:Watch? (Score:4, Funny)
Thank god he didn't sell off the Omega 13 [imdb.com]!
Conversion? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Conversion? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Conversion? (Score:1)
I used to work for this guy (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I used to work for this guy (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I used to work for this guy (Score:5, Funny)
2. ?????
3. Profit!
And so at long last, we know what secret lies behind the mysterious step 2: Secretly sell off all the good stuff!
Re:I used to work for this guy (Score:2)
So he stole from the government too, eh?
Hey! (Score:5, Funny)
And of course... (Score:2)
Move along, nothing to... wait, there IS something to see...
Re:Hey! (Score:2, Funny)
Shouldn't be hard to get it back (Score:5, Funny)
I heard that NORAD tracks all kinds of space junk.
More information (Score:5, Informative)
Re:More information (Score:2, Informative)
You must be new here.
Considering the number of folks that don't even bother to click on the hyperlinks provided by the Slashdot listing itself (IOW RTFA), the number of folks that will follow yours will be considerably diminished.
Honestly, thanks though - I followed a link to the DOJ site but it went to a front page, and not the specific article of interest.
ANother moron as a director.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:ANother moron as a director.... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:ANother moron as a director.... (Score:4, Funny)
Then he hears an ominous rumbling, and looks up to see a very rotund 800 pound NASA engineer who has been living on nothing but Cheetos and tang rolling towards him, yelling "My Taaang! Bring back my Taaaaaanngg!".
A chase scene between shelves of old NASA junk ensues.
Re:ANother moron as a director.... (Score:2)
Sounds like a typical addict. Never thinking about tomorrow, just thinking about his next fix.
Looking at the guy, I'm guessing some kind of sexual addiction requiring the services of high-priced prostitutes, or maybe gambling.
Re:ANother moron as a director.... (Score:2, Insightful)
And no matter the position, no matter how much research is done, eventually one hires someone who's not right for the job or changes after being hired. Mistakes happen, people change. The best way to prevent major incidents is to have a system of checks and balances to catch any wrongdoings at the
Max was anything but a moron. (Score:5, Insightful)
He built the place. It started out as a planetarium at a state fair, and Max (and Patty Carey) worked their asses off to make it one of the leading space museums in the world.
He is ANYTHING but a moron. He was one of the cageiest individuals around. He spent years combing junkyards in Florida, Huston, and Huntsville, finding gear that NASA had thown away when the program it was associated with was no longer funded.
He found the best people to restore the artifacts, and built a museum collection that was the envy of other space museums.
Before you spout off on the subject (and moderators, before you moderate this tripe as insightful) you might want to actually do some research on the history of the Cosmosphere.
All of that makes this EVEN WORSE - Max could have just as easily continued to do as he had done, locating artifacts in junkheaps, having Spaceworks (the artifact restoration arm of the Cosmosphere) restore them, and legally sell them. He didn't have to do this!
And if he did indeed misappropriate artifacts (and while it sure looks that way, do remember - he has not yet been convicted in a court of law), then that was not merely a carrer-limiting move, that was a carrer-ending move - no museum will ever touch him again.
Re:Max was anything but a moron. (Score:2, Insightful)
I do not know much of US justice (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Max was anything but a moron. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Max was anything but a moron. (Score:2)
Re:Max was anything but a moron. (Score:2)
Re:Max was anything but a moron. (Score:3, Informative)
If the items are showing up in the hands of other people, who know where they got them from (if you're a serious collector, you keep records) then there's
Re:ANother moron as a director.... (Score:4, Insightful)
People do all sorts of stupid crap like that. Probably because 95% of the time, you can get away with fooling the government. There are certain things, though, that you just can't cover up. Like those interns at NASA-Houston who stole a safe containing moon rocks which they then tried to sell on eBay. When it comes to unusual items, particularly stuff from the space program, they keep a pretty good accounting of it all and they almost certainly will catch you eventually. Stealing and trying to sell moon rocks is, of course, DOUBLY stupid because virtually all terrestrial moon rocks are property of the US government and never for sale...
Intresting trades considered... (Score:3, Funny)
I wonder what kind of van you could trade for that?
Re:Intresting trades considered... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Intresting trades considered... (Score:2)
I'm wondering if it is washed... because you know that reduces its value....
"Hmm" (Score:3, Funny)
The big question... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:The big question... (Score:2)
Have I missed something? (Score:4, Insightful)
2 - Ary's lawyer mentions tens of thousands of items. The defense will be that he is at most guilty of careless management.
I have trouble putting 1 and 2 together. Presumably the prosecutors have disclosed their evidence to the defense. Do they have evidence that Ary sold anything to anyone? I think if they had any real evidence of that sort that Ary would quietly plead guilty and try for a reduced sentence. This has the smell of a case where all the evidence is circustantial.
I'm sure not calling this guy guilty without seeing a lot more evidence.
Re:Have I missed something? (Score:1)
He has been accused, nothing more. Time will tell the rest of the story.
Re:Have I missed something? (Score:1, Funny)
circustantial: (adj) Where the prosecutor and defense atorney are particularly clownish...Judge Bozo presiding...
Re:Have I missed something? (Score:2)
This is disgusting (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This is disgusting (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2)
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2)
We'd rather let grandmothers die by not receiving meds/medical care than have socialized medicine. But hey, we did get to the fucking moon first (allegedly). Smartest richest country in the world that can only seem to cut taxes for the wealthy. Sounds like Utopia to me.
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2)
Don't confuse programs that make life easier in the short term with programs that are actually beneficial to society over t
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2)
I guess you'd rather hire a person who cannot read or write to be your secretary. How about your tech support staff, why would they need any education. Software Engineers don't need school either. I guess reading Programming for Dummies should be enough.
The more educated a society is the more everyone benefits by having better people to hire and keeping a nation ahead of the intellectual curve (which we are fallin
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2)
Certainly mandatory public education is valuable to establish a baseline minimum education (and we've been doing a poor job at that, it seems). However, it's still not the case that the majority of jobs require a college education. I don't know a *single* person who's using what they learned in college in the workplace today.
I know way too many people who partied their way through
Keep an eye on the Air & Space Museum (Score:3, Funny)
"Ahhhh, I think it is out at the cleaners."
By the way, if anyone approaches you in a parking lot with a genuine V2 rocket in the back of their van it is ok to be suspicious.
Re:This is disgusting (Score:2)
I suppose that I do actually download quite a bit of copyrighted music, but it is all either paid for or offered for free.
Seinfeld (Score:2, Funny)
Fisher Space Pen (Score:2)
Re:Seinfeld (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Seinfeld (Score:2)
Re:Seinfeld (Score:3, Insightful)
Graphite is a conductor. Graphite dust + sensitive/small electronics = shorts.
Re:Seinfeld (Score:2)
Innocent until proven guilty? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Innocent until proven guilty? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Innocent until proven guilty? (Score:2)
what a waste (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:what a waste (Score:2)
Well, I suppose they could turn it into the Kansas Museum Of They're-Only-Theories [npr.org].
I think it's great, actually, that there's a tech/aerospace-centric museum in Kansas (its current curatorial difficulties notwithstanding), but I guess I'm finding that spark of interest in applied science hard to square with the whole retro-dark-ages-religiosity thing. Especially in a state that makes a living off of living things (advanced crops) that didn't exist even a f
Re:what a waste (Score:2)
In a small way - who cares (Score:1, Interesting)
Ayn Rand had it right when she said that the key thing about "public" property is that its definately not "public". You cant alter it, improve it, use it.
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:2)
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:3, Insightful)
Do you think the private collectors who probably bought this are going to alter, improve or use it? No, it'll be in a glass case that only one guy can look at, instead of tens of thousands of people.
I think precisely the opposite, private (i.e. for personal use only) collections of objects of this sort should not be allowed or at least be discouraged (unless the object in question is of secondary importance), because the guy who really wants to see these objects ofte
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:2)
Really? You do? How would you even know who had the articles in the first place? What if the articles are dispersed amoung 100 individuals? And what if the individuals in question do not allow you to see it? What happens when the articles are sold to other private collectors? And what happens if they decide to charge for access? Should something aquired using public tax money be allowed to enrich
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:2)
This is not, I think, commonplace. I know in the cases of many public air museums, there are websites where I can see what they have. And the aircraft are on display. Private collections? No such luck. I know there is a discussion going on in the cases of warbirds, public ownership generally means that they are not flown. Private owners have a choice, some do and some dont. Bu
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:4, Insightful)
"thing about "public" property is that its definitely not "public". You cant alter it, improve it, use it."
Really? I go and use mountain bike trails at a local park that a club built. That is "Public" land. Do you not use your streets? Public property also. Never go to a park or a beach? Never helped to pick up trash at a park or beach? Helped to build a playground. Here are a few concrete examples of people using, altering
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:2)
I will attempt to actually disprove your point, understanding it full well.
My argument is that you do benefit from his (or more generally, "some" of the public's) use of that trail. You benefit indirectly in that society benefits as a whole when there are enough public resources for entertainment and recreation such that as much of society that is able can make u
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:2)
This statement is what I was trying to disprove and feel that I have by example. The statement is wrong on so many levels right down to what do you mean by improve? Would using the Grand Canyon for a land fill improve it?
I find that the people that are most in Love with Ayn Rand are almost never the Howard Roarks or
Re:In a small way - who cares (Score:2)
You're a moron. If I didn't have 200 friends already, I'd foe you. Just wanted you to know.
BTW, I rode a bus to work today. Does that prove you wrong?
I'll be rich, and quick! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I'll be rich, and quick! (Score:2)
I always prefered: "The only thing reliable as a get-rich-quick scheme, is the stupidity of people. " --- but that's gunna depend a whole lot on which side of the stupidity circle you're on, wouldn't it?
What can I say? (Score:1)
How to make money with space (Score:4, Funny)
Amazing
An even more pressing question... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, I must have that water valve! Jeeves, fetch me my coat and have the Rolls Royce ready!
Re:An even more pressing question... (Score:2)
Somebody with $1,000,180,000 just lying about?
I don't know, I'd certainly give the guy five bucks for a valve that was from an Apollo craft. Would make a nice paperweight. Five bucks is just about all the spare cash I have on hand. For other people (namely, those who are not wage slaves like me), well, they can afford to spend more on trinkets and conversation pieces.
What are they thinking? (Score:5, Insightful)
To sell highly visible pieces of property that you do not own, then lie quite openly (with documentation!) that you still have them, seems to require being out of touch with reality. How can you not get found out?
Do crimes like this indicate some mental issue, perhaps like kleptomania? I would be his driving force wasn't even the money, but some other compulsion or need.
Re:What are they thinking? (Score:1)
Re:What are they thinking? (Score:2)
This is all speculation, which in my opinion is the best kind of *lation. I've often found that while obseviving others and thinking back to some of my own actions people don't think much about the future. Maybe he just saw the opportunity to make a quick buck. Immediate gratification.
Maybe after dealing with the bureaucracy so long he thought he could do it with out anyone really noticing. Many people often say how bad the system
Re:What are they thinking? (Score:2)
You forgot copulation.
Re:What are they thinking? (Score:2)
Unfortunately, they never managed to reached the airplane - they made the mistake of using the wrong color of cheque for the transaction.
Love the Cosmosphere (Score:5, Informative)
They also have a planetarium and IMAX theater, but the museum is the real draw for me. It's a walkthrough the history of space exploration, from the early experiments of Goddard and Von Braun, to the German WW2 missle programs, the cold-war era space race, up through the Shuttle, ISS, and Space Ship One.
The on-site restoration and replication studio does amazing work. They produced most of the props for the Apollo 13 movie. They later restored the Apollo 13 command module and the "Liberty Bell" Mercury module (which had sat on the ocean floor for decades) They received a retired SR-71 plane, and added on to the building to display it in the lobby.
If you're anywhere near Hutchinson, Kansas, it's well worth driving out of your way to see.
Don't forget the Soviet/Russian stuff (Score:2)
Omniplex (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Omniplex (Score:2)
Re:Omniplex (Score:2)
Well, I hope the Omniplex gets some needed help.
This guy is a jerk anyway (Score:4, Informative)
When he arrived at the museum he made a lot of sweeping changes without really consulting anyone. He fired most of the upper level people and replaced them with people he worked with in Kansas and I believe in Houston as well.
His changes affected the character of the Omniplex in a detrimental way. The focus seemed to shift from educating people to making money. His management & leadership were piss-poor and had a negative effect on morale that trickled down to us lowly types who actually had to interact with visitors. Turnover was high all throughout the employee structure, and in the summer I worked there no less than 8 people were fired (the total staff is under 100).
I hope that he is forced to leave and that his groupies he brought in leave too. Good riddance.
Re:This guy is a jerk anyway (Score:2)
I've watched the Cosmosphere's amazing growth from a small, community college planetarium to the premier exhibit of sp
Re:This guy is a jerk anyway (Score:3, Informative)
These firings (from May to August of 2004) weren't related to any new management structure; these summer firings were people that actually do a lot of the work around the museum. Some of them had been there for ove
So stupid it might not be true (Score:3, Insightful)
The items alledged to be sold are obviously very rare, some must be on-off pieces, and anything made for the govt. is going to have a serial # on it.
A museum curator is going to have a record of each object, its serial #, description, photos, restoration record, provenance, etc. etc... That's what curators DO!
So while it's fun to grab a pitchfork and torch and join the mob, let's step back a bit and see how the evidence plays out here.
WTF? I mean WTF!!!? (Score:2)
Gotta love lawyers... (Score:2)
Umm.. the charge isn't that he harmed the Cosmosphere or the federal space program. The charge is that he took shit that wasn't his and sold it and kept the money... also known as THEFT.
The issue is not whether he "harmed" one organization or the other.. the issue is that he broke the law.
Ugh... there are still only 1000 of them at the bottom of the
Re:I read about this on Friday. In a newspaper. (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Iran launches space shuttle (Score:3, Funny)