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Origin of Cosmic Rays Revealed 225

neutron_p writes "An international team of astronomers has produced the first ever image of an astronomical object using high energy gamma rays, helping to solve a 100 year old mystery - an origin of cosmic rays. The astronomers studied the remnant of a supernova that exploded some 1,000 years ago, leaving behind an expanding shell of debris which, seen from the Earth, is twice the diameter of the Moon. Cosmic rays are extremely energetic particles that continually bombard the Earth, thousands of them passing through our bodies every day."
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Origin of Cosmic Rays Revealed

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:06PM (#10718574)
    They're coming from inside your house! Get out of your house!
  • Eep. (Score:5, Funny)

    by deemaunik ( 699970 ) <ian,shepherd&gmail,com> on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:07PM (#10718576)
    "Cosmic rays are extremely energetic particles that continually bombard the Earth, thousands of them passing through our bodies every day." I feel so Violated.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:07PM (#10718581)
    The Cosmos?
  • by thrillseeker ( 518224 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:08PM (#10718588)
    Cosmic rays are extremely energetic particles that continually bombard the Earth, thousands of them passing through our bodies every day.

    Not with my handy-dandy tinfoil hat.

  • CoralCache Link... (Score:5, Informative)

    by MoThugz ( 560556 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:10PM (#10718607) Homepage
    here [nyud.net].

    Enjoy.
  • cosmic rays (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:13PM (#10718623)
    Cosmic rays are extremely energetic particles that continually bombard the Earth, thousands of them passing through our bodies every day."

    You mean it's like intergalactic spam?
  • by Anonymous Coward
    "Cosmic rays are extremely energetic particles that continually bombard the Earth, thousands of them passing through our bodies every day."

    WHAT??! We need to BAN THEM, like NOW!
  • by funkbrain ( 217835 ) <nathan_g&fastmail,fm> on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:14PM (#10718638)
    ...of cosmic ray air-showers [nyu.edu].
  • Uh, no... (Score:5, Informative)

    by bokmann ( 323771 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:14PM (#10718639) Homepage
    Thousands of cosmic rays do not pass through our bodies every day... They are stopped by the atmosphere. Cosmic rays are actually fairly dangerous radiation. During the Apollo missions, Astronauts would occasionally see flashes of light as cosmic rays hit their eyes... they also left 'streaks' in the porthole glass.

    I think you are confusing them with neutrinos, but even then you are wrong... billions of those pass through us every second.
    • Uh, YES (Score:5, Informative)

      by gnuman99 ( 746007 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:18PM (#10718672)
      Thousands of cosmic rays do not pass through our bodies every day.

      They are called muons [wikipedia.org]. There is a lot more than a thounsand per day! And they can do A LOT of damage. Oh, and muons are produced from cosmic ray interractions in the upper atmosphere.

    • Re:Uh, no... (Score:2, Informative)

      by Waffle Iron ( 339739 )
      Thousands of cosmic rays do not pass through our bodies every day... They are stopped by the atmosphere.

      IIRC, when an energetic cosmic ray collides with the atmosphere, it creates a cascade of thousands of other high-energy particles that can reach us.

      When I was a kid, I saw a large gizmo on exhibit (maybe a spark chamber?) that showed each cosmic ray-generated particle going through it as a neon flash. It was getting hit every couple of seconds.

      • Re:Uh, no... (Score:5, Interesting)

        by meringuoid ( 568297 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:25PM (#10718732)
        The curious thing about these muons is this. Muons have a very, very short half-life; they decay extremely rapidly. Even moving near lightspeed, they should decay significantly between (say) a mountaintop lab and a sea-level lab, because of the travel time on the way down, but they don't.

        It's almost as if time was slowed down for these high-velocity particles... and indeed this is the case. It's a classic demonstration of relativity in action.

        • Hate to be picky, but muons are actually considered pretty long lived. They have a half life of over 2 microseconds. That sounds short, but it's a lot longer than a free neutron (for example), and it means they're really useful for probing materials.
          • Re:Uh, no... (Score:3, Insightful)

            by div_B ( 781086 )
            Hate to be picky, but muons are actually considered pretty long lived. They have a half life of over 2 microseconds. That sounds short, but it's a lot longer than a free neutron (for example), and it means they're really useful for probing materials.

            Are you trolling? Free neutrons have a half-life of about 10 minutes [gsu.edu]
    • by Donoho ( 788900 )
      Thousands of cosmic rays do not pass through our bodies every day...

      Damn it!. And here I thought I was being trasformed onto the Thing [ffplaza.com], when in fact I just need to pick up some tinactin.

      Thanks a lot. Though I was curious as to why the transformation was starting between my toes.
    • Cosmic dose. (Score:4, Interesting)

      by twitter ( 104583 ) on Thursday November 04, 2004 @12:57AM (#10720270) Homepage Journal
      Thousands of cosmic rays do not pass through our bodies every day... They are stopped by the atmosphere. Cosmic rays are actually fairly dangerous radiation.

      Cosmic Radiation makes up about 8% of the 360 mREM annual average background dose someone in the US receives. See the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements NCRP 93, 1988 [ncrponline.org], for more information. Murray's "Nuclear Energy" has a pie chart of all sources and might be in your local library. This [inel.gov] looks good too.

      If you have a Sodium Iodine detector set and a scope, you can see it. Most common energies seen are around 20 MeV. They are big pulses next to the puny normal ones but you will detect one every twenty seconds or so.

      You are correct, however, to note that most of these particles are blocked by the atmosphere and that you do get dosed at higher elevations. A person at 80,000 ft. according to the lesson plan cited above, gets about 10 R/hr. Each hour that's five hundred times the dose you get per year on the surface, ouch. By comparison, plants have a cow if you get more than a few unplanned mR.

  • by Sheetrock ( 152993 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:14PM (#10718641) Homepage Journal
    The wierd thing about cosmic rays is that despite their isotropism we noticed a great deal of them coming from our own Sun. Some went so far as to suspect 'dark matter', that theoretical material that accounts for the great chunk of the universe we cannot directly observe, as being either responsible for or made up of rays!

    In a way, it makes sense that they'd be partly responsible for the blue in our atmosphere -- the rest comes from the Sun bombarding the layers of gases up there. Sometimes science is just a way of jerryrigging loose facts together to create a plausible test or explanation for strange phenonema.

    • Gee, and here I always thought that the blue sky was due to light refracting through water vapour in the atmosphere. And sunsets going red due to the change in position causing a different wavelength of light through...
      • And sunsets going red due to the change in position causing a different wavelength of light through...

        Not quite. The blue wavelengths are scattered, and that's why the sky is blue; that much is true. The reason the sun looks red at sunset is because its light has had the blue wavelengths scattered out before it reaches you.

      • Actually, sunsets look red due to particles scattering the light. http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/atoptics/sunsets.htm And the blue sky is not specifically attributable to water vapor, just to those same particles (viewing the scattering from a different position, as you said).
  • by gnuman99 ( 746007 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:15PM (#10718645)
    Supernovas are a source of cosmic rays. Not suprising. After all, they do go boom. :)

    What is more interresting than a source of cosmic rays is the source of the gamma bursts. Some background is here [wikipedia.org].

  • by l1nuxpunk ( 738263 ) <{linuxpunk} {at} {linuxpunk.net}> on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:17PM (#10718661) Homepage
    Space has a terrible power. We are here to protect you from the terrible secret of space. Do you have stairs in your house?

    Pak chooie unf.
  • Powerful (Score:4, Interesting)

    by vlad_grigorescu ( 804005 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:23PM (#10718715) Homepage
    These things are very powerful. The Russians have been conducting experiments on the sea floor for years and lots of them are energetic enough to go through. It's been assumed for a while that supernovas are the source of cosmic rays but it has been hard to pinpoint their origin, since cosmic rays can be deflected by magnetic fields.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:26PM (#10718737)
    What's the highest frequency EM raidation that can be detected/measured with the technology we have today?

    Could there be massive amounts of EM radiation flying around the universe that is simple undetectable? Could this not be the "missing mass" that is conjectured in discusions of universal inflation and what not?

    Anyone know?
    • Um no. No matter how energetic a gamma ray is its never going to have any mass. And why has the parent been modded as interesting it's factually incorrect.

      A Bugg
    • Missing mass:
      The missing mass is not really missing anymore. We know how much of it there is, where it is, and what it is not (!), just not what it is. It comes in two forms: dark energy and dark matter. Dark matter is clumpy, non-baryonic, non-interacting (at least with normal matter, except via gravity) stuff. Without it, galaxies, galaxy clusters, and larger structures probably would not have formed. Dark energy is stranger stuff. It may or may not be related to the cosmological constant or to t
    • EM radiation does have energy and by Einstein has an effective mass. In the very early universe, there was enough radiation to contribute significantly to the mass budget of the universe, but today we estimate it to be roughly 1 part in 10000 of the total mass in the universe.

      We can (relatively) easily measure gamma rays with a few MeV in energy. Once you get beyond a few MeV, single photons will interact with Cosmic Microwave Background photons and via pair production create pairs of particles like e+,e
    • As the wavelength of a photon drops, its energy increases. Above a certain point (1.02 MeV), it becomes likely that the gamma ray will convert its energy into an electron-positron pair (with the excess energy as kinetic energy). The positron will most likely annihilate with a nearby electron and create two lower-energy gamma rays (0.51 MeV each). Today, pair production normally requires an interaction with a nucleus, but I think most high-energy photons in the universe formed elementary particles in the con
    • What's the highest frequency EM raidation that can be detected/measured with the technology we have today?

      I've read (somewhere) that the highest energy *photon* ever observed was ~1MJ. That is on the order of 10^24eV! Not sure of the error on this though.

      As for highest energy cosmic rays, well, they seem to get to 10^20eV [auger.org]. But there is a cutoff limit for cosmic rays since they interact with microwave background (see that same page).

  • Angular diameter (Score:4, Informative)

    by Flexagon ( 740643 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:29PM (#10718771)

    an expanding shell of debris which, seen from the Earth, is twice the diameter of the Moon [unattributed quote from the original article]

    So its diameter is a function of viewing position. Sounds like angular diameter [wikipedia.org]. That's still huge, though not as huge as M31 in Andromeda [wikipedia.org].

  • by artemis67 ( 93453 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:31PM (#10718787)
    ... how the "cosmic rays" can make Mr. Fantastic so stretchy.
  • by osho_gg ( 652984 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:41PM (#10718863)
    Cosmic rays are of some real practical significance in the world of computers. Cosmic rays are attributed as a reason (among others) for why sometimes we see unexplained behavior in Computers - mainly memory (RAM) where suddenly 0 bits become 1 and 1 bits become 0. These heavily charged extremely small particles have the property that they change the capacitance of parts of semiconductors when passed through them. This could change certain bits 0 and 1 (which are all stored as capacitance inside RAM and other places in computers) into 1 and 0.

    This has, along with semi-conductor material and process defects etc., led to the whole field of Error Correcting Codes in computers - where such kind of errors can be prevented by things such as parity bits and what not. This works on the presumption that the probability of such bitswaps occurring on two bits is very small compared to just 1 bit. So, high-reliability computing servers etc. always tend to use memories with good ECC.

    I have heard anecdotal evidence that IBM did some thourough testing of how such a behavior of bit-flipping due to cosmic rays changes at different elevation. When the elevation was high (7000 feet or so) - it occurred far more often then at the sea level. They did such tests below the surface of the earth and as they went deeper into the earth - such cosmic rays bit-flipping effect decreased but still remained. Only, after they went something like 40 feet or so below the surface of the earth - such behavior completley went away.

    So, next time you wonder why you are paying more for ECC-RAM - think of cosmic rays (and material defect and what not ...)

    Osho

    • by ImaLamer ( 260199 ) <john@lamar.gmail@com> on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:16PM (#10719094) Homepage Journal
      Much like your own DNA.

      We all think that mutations happen daily, but that is far from the case. In fact genetic mutation is very rare because we have error correcting enzymes which travel back and forth on DNA strands correcting them as they change. Typically the DNA "code" is changed as subatomic particles rip through your body, just as you've explained with RAM.

      Yes, our DNA mutates. It doesn't stay that way however. Statistically there are more errors in a 300 page book then in a mile long DNA sequence. Actually there are about 0 errors in DNA because of this self-correcting mechanism.

      * Source: Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors by Ann Druyan and Carl Sagan.
      • Actually, for humans living at sea level, ionizing background radiation (which would include cosmic rays) is only the second biggest source of DNA mutations. The biggest source are so called "thermal" mutations (roughly 40 times as common), which are the natural errors that occur because we are warm and stuff is moving around.

        Error correcting enzymes exist in all organisms because everything which is "warm" will have DNA errors that need to be corrected. Bacteria and other organisms that "like" to mutate
    • by gralves ( 784956 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:39PM (#10719244)
      During my freshman years they were also responsible for every error on physical lab expirements. :)
    • Close but no cigar (Score:4, Informative)

      by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @11:25PM (#10719599) Journal
      These heavily charged extremely small particles have the property that they change the capacitance of parts of semiconductors when passed through them.

      Close but no cigar.

      The rapid passage of a charged particle deposits enough energy on nearby charged particles to jog them out of place - creating a sudden conductive sea of electron-hole pairs. These charge carriers are then swept away by the local field, becoming a burst of current.

      This affects memory and logic devices in two ways:

      1) It can suddenly leak away the charge stored in the capacitance of a dynamic RAM.

      2) It can momentarily turn "on" a transistor that should be off (even turning it more "on" than it normally would be, so its conduction swamps that of its turned-on partner in a totem-pole stage.)

      Leaking the stored charge in a RAM flips the bit - in a particular direction. Turning on a transistor that should be off may flip a bit in a flop. latch, or static RAM, or momentarily cause the wrong level on a logic line.

      Nothing to do with changed capacitance (although the sudden appearance of an extra conductive region does represent an increased capacatance on some nearby conductors).

      Cosmic rays (fast charged nuclear fragments) can do this. Another problem was alpha particles from heavy elements in the ceramic integrated circuit packages once used for memory and mil-spec ICs (which is why they disappeared). A third was alpha particles from the decay of radon gas. (Turns out some locations in Silicon Valley have a lot of radon.)
    • http://www.technewsworld.com/story/36324.html/ [technewsworld.com]

      Le rayon cosmique qui a touché la mémoire d'une des urnes électroniques de Schaerbeek, ce rayon cosmique permettra de sensibiliser des députés encore acquis au vote électronique. ... An electronic voting machine error in a May, 2003, election in Belgium produced just over 4,100 more votes for the winner than there were eligible voters.
      The official review reduced this to exactly 4,096 extra votes and was therefore able to conclud
  • Found some more info (Score:4, Interesting)

    by LiquidCoooled ( 634315 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @09:46PM (#10718892) Homepage Journal
    Went looking around for more information, and came up with this:

    http://www.pparc.ac.uk/frontiers/archive/update.as p?id=15U3& [pparc.ac.uk]

    It includes a picture of the telescope array as well as a small image of the gamma ray map.
    • Phooooey!

      It chopped the end off my link.
      I'll try again:
      Here.
      (The "Here" text above is DEFINATELY enclosed with correct HTML, and contains the full URL)

      Hmmmmmmm, now thats interesting.

      Slashcode is screwing the link up.
      I will just paste it exact in plain text - it is balking on the "&style=update" parameter of the URL.

      Here it is in plaintext:
      http://www.pparc.ac.uk/frontiers/arch i ve/update.as p?id=15U3&style=update

      and incase all that fails, this is a working link to the archived issue, the HESS l
  • [In Eyeore intonation, with a heavy heart]:

    "I, for one, welcome our new supernoverlords."

    There. Somebody had to.

  • by SIGFPE ( 97527 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:03PM (#10719019) Homepage
    ...I have a web page describing how: here [mac.com]
  • by RealProgrammer ( 723725 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:05PM (#10719032) Homepage Journal
    Why do I feel like a first grader? From TFA:
    The astronomers studied the remnant of a supernova that exploded some 1,000 years ago, leaving behind an expanding shell of debris which, seen from the Earth, is twice the diameter of the Moon.
    Do they mean it subtends as large a portion of sky as does the moon? If it's 1000 light-years away, that would make it ...

    ((1000 light-years)*(size of moon))/(moon orbital height)

    across,

    ((9.5 × 10^18 meters) * (3,476,000m))/ (384,403,000 m)

    That's about 86 light years in diameter. Its average velocity is left as an exercise to the homebound.

    • Oops! (Score:4, Informative)

      by RealProgrammer ( 723725 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:10PM (#10719056) Homepage Journal
      Make that 172 light years in diameter.
    • Some strange things about light: Astronomers get distance (in light years) using redshift. Redshift is the measured shift of a spectrum due to the expansion of the universe. The more redshift, the longer the light has been traveling through expanding space, thus the distance between us and the object is greater.

      BUT, it's not that simple. Redshift is really due to an integral of pointwise expansion wherever the photon happens to be. Since space is not expanding at a constant rate, we need to know how

      • Without lifting a finger to check my facts (i.e., I might be wrong somewhere...)

        Objects 1000 ly away are inside of, or darned close to, our own galaxy. The distance to such objects is not measured by redshift, because a) they're moving in roughly the same direction we are, astronomically speaking, and b) redshift is used when measuring distrances in the millions or billions of light years; it'd be darned hard to measure the redshift of an object just 1000 ly away, even if it did have a redshift value that
  • Not unexpected (Score:5, Informative)

    by Michael Woodhams ( 112247 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:11PM (#10719061) Journal
    I was involved in a similar, but very much smaller scale, experiment for my MSc thesis (JANZOS [u-tokyo.ac.jp]), attempting to find detect gamma rays from the (then very recent) supernova 1987A in the Large Magellanic Cloud.

    So supernovae were a prime suspect source back then.

    We had three (not four) 2 metre (not 12 metre) telescopes with about 30 'pixels' each (compared to a few thousand for HESS.) (I actually worked on another part of the experiment, which used particle detectors to detect higher energy showers.)

    A significant problem is to distinguish between showers created by gamma rays and ones created by charged particles (mostly protons.) The charged particle showers are 'uninteresting', because the direction they come from is uncorrelated to their source - they move on curved paths due to galactic magnetic fields. Unfortunately, they are about 99% of the cosmic rays. We were not able to distinguish, so we had a large 'signal to noise' problem.

    There was a single telescope similar to these ones in the mid 80s (the Whipple Telescope, I think) which claimed to be able to distinguish by details of shower structure. (We didn't have the resolution, nor perhaps the light gathering power, to make use of this.) I presume HESS has built on this work.

    Note that this result does not necessarily tell us about the very highest energy cosmic rays. There is a change in the slope of the spectrum at (from memory) about 10^15 electron volts, so it is likely that different processess are involved on either side of this boundary. I think there were also theoretical reasons to think that supernovae could not accelerate particles to such high energies.

    As I recall, the models for acceleration generally required shock waves in a gas with magnetic fields. Particles could repeatedly bounce across the shock, getting accelerated each time. (Think of a ball bouncing between two walls that are moving towards each other.)
    1. Gamma rays are not cosmic rays
    2. Gamma rays do not cause Cherenchov radiation
    Primary cosmics rays are subatomic particles with extremely high energy. The most energetic ones have an energy comparable to the energy of a tennis serve.
    • Whose tennis serve, mine or that of a Williams sister? Wasn't there a credit card commercial where the Wack-a-Mole in the game arcade went into hibernation to hide from Venus Williams?
    • the energy of a tennis serve??? WTF?

      Please translate that to something I can understand - like elbow bends with a full pint of beer. What kind of unit is a "tennis serve"?

      google couldn't handle "1 tennis serve in elbow bends", but it could do "1 mile per gallon in furlongs per pint", yeilding a happy constant I hadn't thought of before: "1 mile per gallon = 1 furlongs per US pint"

    • by dragons_flight ( 515217 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @11:03PM (#10719383) Homepage
      I don't think he is confused, just over simplifying.

      Via pair production, gamma rays produce the same kinds of secondary particle showers that the far more common primary cosmic rays do. However, because of momentum conservation, the particle shower is much more tightly focused and produces a distinctive Cherenchov cone that allows gamma rays particle showers to be easily distinguished from cosmic ray showers.

      As noted in the article, the fact that gamma are currently being produced in the supernova remnant strongly argues that cosmic rays are also being accelerated there. The physics for this was proposed long ago, but no one has been able to directly measure it.
  • by Michael Snoswell ( 3461 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:19PM (#10719120) Journal
    A long time ago (early 80s) I worked in a lab that used scintillation counters to measure biological activity (Background: you'd put a radioactively labelled (eg with tritium or C14)reagent in with the other cocktail for a test you're conducting in a little test tube. After say 5 mins you'd stop the reaction (say with perchloric acid), syphon off the top layer and put it into scintillation liquid (not sure what it was, but largely based on toluene) and put the vials into the scintillation counter which would have hundreds of little tubes in a conveyor belt and one by one drop the tubes deep inside the lead shielding to measure flashes of light as the isotopes decayed, hence telling you v accurately how much of the original substance under test had bound to the labelled reagent).

    Anyway, every few days the counter would go completely stupid, and every few weeks copletely bananas (a technical term). It turned out the major machine crashes coincided with all scintillation counters in the building going crazy at the same time. We had over a dozen of these machines (all different brands) and they had about 6inches of lead around the detectors, so that was quite some energetic particles we were getting. The all the manufacturers' reps said there was little we could do to fix this, unless we wanted to be underground.

    Talking to a friend at the local uni cosmic ray observatory (500+ scintillation counters spread over about a square kilometer), he said the more energetic showers were smaller in radius as the particles have less time to spread out from the initiating collision of a cosmic particle with the upper atmosphere. Usually they spread out to 50 to a few hundred metres across, with a massive cascade of all sorts of particle by the time it reaches ground level.

    Interestingly, the initial byproducts of cosmic ray collisions have a v short life which means they should decay before reaching sea level. However as they travel close to the speed of light the depth of the atmosphere is foreshortened (Lorenzian contraction) to only a few hundred metres deep - a simple proof of relativity in action (or likewise, time is going slower for the cosmic particles).

    It has been said that cosmic rays are the largest contributor to genetic mutations, beyond background radiation levels due to radioactive isotopes occuring naturally in the ground. Similarly, work place studies show airline hostesses/stewards have the far largest dosage of radiation of any occupation as they spend so much time above the bulk of the atmosphere. (Pilots spend less time in the air due to safety/fatigue regulations).

    I also recall reading that it's extremely difficult to work out where cosmic rays originate as they are usually charged particles that follow curved paths through space due to the small but significant magnetic fields of stars and the galaxy itself. Due to timing of shows hitting detectors we can easily measure the angle a particle was going when it hit the atmosphere, but the particle took a very convoluted path prior to that, so finding a close source (100ly) is significant.
  • Muon Clarification (Score:5, Interesting)

    by vlad_grigorescu ( 804005 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:23PM (#10719144) Homepage
    The cosmic rays that the article discusses are not muons, they are most often protons. The muons are what we encounter on Earth. The proton (also called the primary cosmic ray) comes in, hits our atmosphere, and a shower of subatomic particles is produced. The muon is the most powerful of these subatomic particles that is commonly produced. The fact that muons have a short half-life, and yet they can still reach us, has been cited as proof of relativity, and the idea that when you travel close to the speed of light (which these things do), time will slow down.
  • Misleading header (Score:4, Interesting)

    by forand ( 530402 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:34PM (#10719210) Homepage
    This is NOT the first gamma-ray image. I work on Glast which is the second generation of gammay observation satelites. EGRET was the most recent satelite to provide gamma-ray skymaps. Googled [google.com]
  • misleading (Score:5, Informative)

    by bcrowell ( 177657 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:35PM (#10719219) Homepage
    Both the PhysOrg article and the Slashdot blurb are misleading. They both imply that the origin of cosmic rays in general is a complete mystery. Actually only certain types of cosmic rays are mysterious. The Wikipedia article that was linked to explains this. The really mysterious ones are actually not the ones that this research is about.

    The group's publications page is here [dur.ac.uk] (click on observations section), but they don't seem to have a preprint of this paper. Nature will let you read the abstract of the paper [nature.com] for free.

    The research seems to be just a more direct confirmation of something that was already thought to be understood, but had never really been verified.

  • by HunterZ ( 20035 ) on Wednesday November 03, 2004 @10:36PM (#10719222) Journal
    Don't worry - cosmic rays are a great source of super-powers such as stretchiness, spontaneous combustion, invisibility, and...and...Things.

    I'm surprised noone else caught the Fantastic Four reference in the "from the...department" line of the summary - it was the first thing I thought of when I saw the phrase "cosmic rays"!
  • It's people!!! Cosmic rays is people!!
  • by mveloso ( 325617 ) on Thursday November 04, 2004 @12:06AM (#10719887)
    It's funny that "origin" in this case is "where they're coming from" when the real question is "why and how are cosmic rays created?"

    There's a lot of energy being beamed about, and well, you'd think that it would stop eventually, but it keeps on coming.
  • Cosmic rays are extremely energetic particles that continually bombard the Earth, thousands of them passing through our bodies every day. ...
    Gamma rays are the most penetrating form of radiation we know, around a billion times more energetic than the X-rays produced by a hospital X-ray machine.

    We know that too much X-ray exposure is not considered good. Why does something a billion times more energetic that passes through our bodies everyday does not have any adverse health effect? Aging anyone??
    • by aXis100 ( 690904 )
      Even though they are extemently energetic, they tend to do very little harm since:

      1) The charged particle component of cosmic rays is sheilded by the Earth's magnetic field
      2) The uncharged (neutron) component of cosmic rays does not interact with matter very much - it is very penetrating simpley because it passes through most matter without colliding with anything.
      3) Gamma rays, like neutrons, tend to pass though quite a bit of matter without actually interacting with it.

      Or more simply, we are transparent
      • by Tsalg ( 828169 )
        A few comments on your points aXis: 1) This is dependent on your geomagnetic position on Earth. The high energy cosmics go through it anyway and we are shielded from them by the atmosphere more than the weak magnetic field. 2)There's no neutrons in the primary cosmic rays since they decay AND neutrons *do* interact with matter a *lot*. The neutrons come from the interactions of charged particles with the atmosphere. They are the second highest dose inducer after muons at sea level, and the primary at an al
  • I'm suddenly feeling stretchy...
  • Oh, I am so ashamed. Well at least I didn't mention the other idea I had, Cosmonauts.
  • "If you'd had been listening, you'd know nintendos pass right through you" - Jack O'Neill
  • by Conor ( 2745 ) on Thursday November 04, 2004 @05:32AM (#10721525)
    Since I work for this experiment, I guess I should try to clear up a few points which have been discussed here.

    A Supernova remnant (SNR) is a very rapidly expanding bubble of hot gas, created by the explosion of a massive star. It is thought that the shock wave caused by these expanding bubbles in our galaxy accelerate surrounding hydrogen gas to very high energies, which then become the cosmic ray protons which we see at the earth today. Protons form the bulk of the cosmic ray flux between MeV and EeV energies, and at least up PeV energies they seem to be formed in our Galaxy, probably by SNRs.

    The SNRs are really light years across, the ones we see are generally in the local quadrant of our galaxy, thus are really not far away in the cosmic scale of things. Happily not close enough to fry us though! Cosmic redshift does not occur within our galaxy, by the way.

    We detect gamma rays at very high energies by looking at their interactions with the upper atmosphere. The gamma rays themselves do not generally penetrate to the ground, we measure the Cherenkov light emitted by the shower of charged paticles which stem from the gamma ray interaction.

    One reason gamma rays are interesting is that they , like other photons, travel directly to us from their source, so we can use them to make pictures of what the source looks like. We believe in this case that the gamma rays are produced in the supernova remnant by interactions of the accelerated protons, and thus are a tracer which proves the existence of the comsic rays at the SNR, and thus that SNRs generate cosmic rays.

    The particles which pass through us every day are mostly muons, which are by-products of the interaction of cosmic ray protons with the atmosphere.

    More information can be found at:

    http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/hfm/HESS/HESS.html [mpi-hd.mpg.de]

    • The article doesn't state how distant that supernova is/was, only that it happened 1,000 years ago. Does that mean the supernova explosion was observable from Earth 1,000 years ago (saying nothing about its distance), or that the explosion actually happened 1,000 years ago (putting it at a distance of 1,000 lightyears)?

      In either case, if the shell of debris has now travelled half a degree of angular separation from the original point of explosion (uniformly in all directions), I suppose that debris will ev

      • RXJ 1713-39, the SNR in question, is believed to about 1kiloparsec away, which corresponds to 3260 light years. When we say it is believed to be 1000 years old, that means it would have been seen at the earth 1000 years ago. It is actually possibly 4000 years old, but may be older. It is quite hard to determine the distance to these things unless one saw them explode.

        What we see now is 1000 years after it exploded, so we just call it 1000 years old for simplicity.

        The shell should be too old and dispersed
        • Would it be possible to determine its age (and thus its distance) by observing the expansion of the shell over a period of say, a few decades, and extrapolate from that? Maybe the observation method doesn't allow for sufficiently accurate measurements of the positions of the outermost gamma ray sources, or there are natural fluctuations in their appearance rendering the calculations meaningless?

          I recall reading about visible-light observation of what was first thought to be debris from another supernova ex

          • First question, yes, it is possible to do that, especially for younger SNRs (up to a few hundred years maybe). For older ones, such as RXJ 1713 its harder as its more difficult to discern expansion.

            The second point refers to SN 1987a, which was observed to explode 17 years ago (hence the name).

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