How Homing Pigeons Navigate 51
goombah99 writes "Over the years there has been much research and speculation on how homing pigeons navigate. The assumption has been they need some novel sensory mechanism to give them north-south orientation information. Theories included magnetic field sensitivty and polarized light sensitivity, other possibilies include analysing the motion of the sun. But British researchers appear to have cracked the case: they follow roads and landmarks and don't require special senses. Birds, it seems, actually follow the longer as-the-dog-walks path of the road, even circling over round-abouts rather than the straight 'as-the-bird-flies' path one would expect if they used absolute position sensing."
Obligatory... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Obligatory... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ok (Score:1, Informative)
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and anyways the submitter/poster could have read the article too with thought..
Guilford said pigeons use their own navigational system when doing long-distance trips or when a bird does a journey for the first time.
But when they have flown a journey more than once they home in on a habitual route home
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I really wish people would stop presenting me with such juicy opportunities to make non-PC jokes.
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People in most countries ive ever been to eat pigeon in one form or another (its not very common though). I used to shoot them for a farmer, and would at least eat some of them (wood pigeon) and you can always get them from most good butchers (in season obviously).
Makes sense (Score:4, Insightful)
Now this doesn't eliminate the idea that they can sense magnetic lines, giving them an ability to memorize things that we don't see, especially for flights over water.
Re:Makes sense (Score:2)
Let's hope that one day, scientists will be able to uncover the great mystery of bad spelling on slashdot :)
Re:Makes sense (Score:1)
RFC 1149 (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html [faqs.org]
aljazeera? better article in Sunday Times IMHO (Score:5, Informative)
pigeons vs. pidgeons (Score:2)
Re:Pigeon router (Score:1, Funny)
Perhaps they could use use the pigeons *to* determine best routes for motorists?
Re:aljazeera? better article in Sunday Times IMHO (Score:1)
Re:aljazeera? better article in Sunday Times IMHO (Score:1)
The truth of the matter is that birds use whatever calculation is most appropriate at the time - so the same terns that use roads on route north will have had to migrate over the
Thats not what the article says. (Score:5, Informative)
Once again the slashdot blurb completely misrepresents the article. Good work guys
Re:Thats not what the article says. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Thats not what the article says. (Score:2)
Too bad this article didn't discuss what a pigeon does in the dark. It would be interesting to know if their "navigation" system kicks in when there isn't a road to follow or if they just sack out until dawn when the seeing is better.
Anyone seriously interested... (Score:5, Interesting)
there's a great online text edited by the Professor I work for completely free with sample videos and works by many of the great researchers in this field:
http://www.pigeon.psy.tufts.edu
RFC 1149 (Score:4, Funny)
Re:RFC 1149 (Score:2)
Re:Aljazeera? (Score:5, Interesting)
You'd think that the Al Jazeera folks are trying to be a respected news source or something.
(I was trying hard not to say "fair and balanced.
Their Middle-East reporting makes for interesting reading, too. They often give you a somewhat different slant than Western news services.
Since I'm NOT RTFA about pigeons.... (Score:4, Funny)
I AM APALLED by the fact that one would even suggest such as stupid theory. Listen up guys: Enough of this silly "they follow the roads stuff" Some of us are actually trying to make money off this "imaginary" magnetic-ion-built-in-GPS navigation system that pigeons DO in fact have. If you keep putting out simple explanations to things like this, you're gonna run the rest of us lunatic scientists out of business. We NEED those government grants!
</rant>
Now back to finishing my 5 assed pigeon....
Rivers.. (Score:4, Interesting)
It would be interesting to do a study in an area without roads and population to see if this is indeed the case.
-molo
Re:Rivers.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Not a lot of those left in general- let alone where pigeons live.
I-95 South Congested (reported by Bernie) (Score:2, Interesting)
Think about it. A local news agency opens up a dozen or so little offices distributed around your city. It then trains pigeons to go to and from a couple of the offices, and attaches a small video camera with a decent transmitter to Bernie's leg. Since the pigeons follow roads, you'll have a live feed (no pun intended) of the road every pigeon is flying over.
Better yet, it seems likely that a greater number of pigeons will follow major roads, and fe
Re:I-95 South Congested (reported by Bernie) (Score:2)
If they tend to follow roads... (Score:1, Funny)
Let's just hope they don't use airport runways for guidance!
Ya know.... (Score:2, Interesting)
However, this brings up a question: Prior to industrialization, how did they navigate? What about prior to human habitation of areas? Or did they only begin to become homing pigeons when they had definite paths to follow?
Of course, this totally screws up the Airspeed-Velocity of an Unladen Swallow [slashdot.org] because velocity is a vector, and vectors require a direction....And we thought we had that figured out! Damn!
BBC (Score:5, Informative)
I read this article on BBC a last week. If you would like to, you can read it here [bbc.co.uk].
CNN also carried a story [cnn.com] on this.
Some more news sites that carried this news are
How do homing pigeons navigate ? [telegraph.co.uk]
Pigeons navigate 'by following roads' [femail.co.uk]
Pigeons take the highway [nature.com]
The homing pigeon's ploy: follow that road [guardian.co.uk]
Pigeons home in on the roads [philly.com]
I was a little surprised that out of all the news sites, someone picked it up on Al jazeera... Not that I have anything against any news channel....
Thermals? (Score:5, Interesting)
hmmm (Score:1)
one way trip only (Score:1, Insightful)
where the homing pigeon gets born
in london and gets transported in
a cage to paris and will fly home
to london if released
when they're transported in the cage
do they have to be able to see where
they're transported to or else they
won't find home?
maybe they can navigate by looking
at wave pattern
this is prolly just bullsh.t.
it's been proven that they have
small magnets in their brains and
can "see" the magnetic field lines
with it. also the earth magnetic
field isn't the
Maybe its longer (Score:1)
Memory (Score:1)