This Just In: People Smell 50
SAPHRguru writes "New
Scientist reports (10 Nov) that researchers may have taken a big step
towards solving the mystery of how humans detect pheromones... we do it through
our noses! Strange, I always thought I responded to chemical cues through
my mouth (especially in brownies)!"
Now I have proof that my nose smells (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Now I have proof that my nose smells (Score:1)
Graham
Hahaha (Score:2)
Re:Hahaha (Score:1)
Brownies? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Brownies? (Score:2)
Re:Brownies? (Score:1)
Obligatory schoolyard joke (Score:2)
A: When he eats his first Brownie!
No VMO in humans? (Score:5, Interesting)
But that doesn't sound right. Believe it or not, I actually wrote a paper for my freshman psychology class back in Fall '96 on the effect of human pheromones and the VMO. At that time, at least, it was fairly well known that the VMO did indeed exist in humans, and that even its location in the human body was known (See this [nih.gov] and this [fsu.edu], for example).
So when did it vanish from scientific literature, or was its existence called into question?
Re:No VMO in humans? (Score:2)
Hmph. I scoff. As they say, "Hire a Teenager While They Still Know Everything."
Re:No VMO in humans? (Score:4, Funny)
Damnit damnit damnit!
You travel 42,000 light years, you abduct a sample life form in stasis, you spend over a year constructing a simulated enviornment, you fill that enviornment with a bunch of simulated life forms, and some third-rate contractor leaves out the damn VMOs!
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Re:No VMO in humans? (Score:4, Interesting)
Humans have a VNO, but whether it works or not is a disputed question; there's both physiological and genetic reasons to believe that it's vestigial in humans, and possibly apes and Old World monkeys. If it is, then pheremones, which we know affect humans, must be detected by another system.
So what the researchers in this case did was see if pheremones could cause reactions in the main olfactory system of mice. If they did (and they did), it explains how humans can be affected by pheremones despite a possibly vestigial VNO.
Re:VNO, not VMO (Score:2)
Re:No VMO in humans? (Score:2, Informative)
So, according to your links, people believed that it maybe exists (or maybe not), but probably doesn't connect to the brain. If people respond to pheromones, then either they must perceive them by a different route, or there must be nerves that
This is a MOUSE STUDY!!! (Score:3, Interesting)
Guys, relax. The article clearly states that this study was done on MICE and not HUMANS!! They're just making a guess that people detect pheromones through their nose, too -- they don't know this.
Talk about jumping the gun...
GMD
Re:This is a MOUSE STUDY!!! (Score:2)
Since we really don't know for sure, lets spend $50 million to find out.
Smello-vision (Score:2)
Since we really don't know for sure, lets spend $50 million to find out.
It could well be worth that much of an investment to marketing specialists.
If the mechanism is determined, then you can bet that the next time you walk into a department store or a casino you'll be feeling extra sexy for a reason.
Pheremones are different in humans (Score:1)
Scientists believe that pherormones are suppressed in humans. One point of evidence cited is that about the time that homonids developed color vision [newscientist.com], a pheromonal pathway gene mutated and became unusable. One item of speculation from that is that color
Re: This is a MOUSE STUDY!!! (Score:1)
> Guys, relax. The article clearly states that this study was done on MICE and not HUMANS!!
Yeah, but when you get 50 e-msgs a day asking
Are you a mouse or a man?
this kind of news can rattle you!
Re:This is a MOUSE STUDY!!! (Score:2)
Like it or not, there are many things we have in common with mice. And bacteria etc for that matter.
Re:This is a MOUSE STUDY!!! (Score:2)
What makes you think that journalists and people like us differentiate between animals and humans?
Hey, stop squirting that stuff in my eyes!
(unemployed programmer in testing lab)
Urine as a social signal (Score:5, Funny)
The team is now trying to determine how the process may work in humans. "But we don't generally use urine as a social signal," notes Katz.
Hey, speak for yourself, Professor Science! I find pissing in the direction of someone I don't like to be much easier and cleaner than flinging my feces at them and it gets the point across just as effectively!
Re:Urine as a social signal (Score:1)
Re:Urine as a social signal (Score:2)
True, true. But I still preffer flinging feces. The extra range is worth it.
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I suppose that someone's got to say it... (Score:2)
Ahem.
My dog has no nose.
Re:I suppose that someone's got to say it... (Score:1)
Anosmia? (Score:3, Interesting)
I ask because I have congenital anosmia -- no sense of smell. None. What I want to know is whether I'm still picking up on the subtle messages delivered by pheromones.
Re:Anosmia? (Score:2)
For example, if she throws a leg over and grinds on your pubic bone, she might be horny for you.
This sort of signal is immune to interference preventing the reception of pheromones, such as allergies, head colds, or even congenital anosmia.
I foresee my future e-mails (Score:1)
From the extremely fscking obvious dept. (Score:2)
Also just in: Oxygen deprivation may lead to death!
Q.
The really sad part about the article... (Score:3, Interesting)
That quote is at the end of the article.
The doctor tells us, "But we don't generally use urine as a social signal."
They didn't get anything else they could print?