
Sun Produces Strongest Flare Ever Recorded 422
idontneedanickname writes "The BBC is reporting about the newest flare unleashed by the sun. According to NASA's SOHO website, "Today word came from the SEC that their best estimate was X28. We have a new number 1 X-ray flare for the record books." As usual there are magnificent images to be admired."
This one's not headed straight for us...
Anyone else think... (Score:5, Funny)
That Sun Microsystems was coming out with a new line of servers when they read the headline?
First the SunFire line, now the SunFlare line, the STRONGEST EVER!
Re:Anyone else think... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Anyone else think... (Score:2, Funny)
Would be a good idea for Sun to follow actually. Great naming scheme, especially given how many flares there have been recently. Easy marketting line: "Sun Flare X35 - the only Sun Flare on Earth!"
Will get them a bit of bad will if a really strong sun flare does end up wasting half the electronics in the world though...
Daniel
I'M a Power Supply Designer (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Anyone else think... (Score:2)
Re:Anyone else think... (Score:2)
"Sun Produces Strongest Flare Ever Recorded"
Is their hardware really getting that flaky?
Hehe...
Re:Anyone else think... (Score:2)
Re:Anyone else think... (Score:2)
*Shudder*
That's what I call damning with faint praise.
That was close! (Score:4, Funny)
What's with all these flares? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:3, Funny)
Perhaps we should chill it for now.
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2)
Re:What's with all these flares? (Score:2)
What the Sun thinks (Score:2)
Other source (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Other source (Score:5, Funny)
Reads as: We have no fucking idea what's going on.
Re:Other source (Score:3, Funny)
"Warm and dry, but cooler with some rain".
Re:Other source (Score:3, Interesting)
Impressive, (Score:3, Insightful)
Were these parsnips CORRECTLY MARINATED in TACO SAUCE? -- WTF is that?
Re:Impressive, (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Impressive, (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Impressive, (Score:5, Informative)
Fucking SUVs (Score:5, Funny)
Emissions are way up and pollution is at an all time high in many areas. Add to that that the polar ice shelves are rapidly breaking up and falling into the ocean, and you've got yourself a recipe for disaster.
Re:Fucking SUVs (Score:2)
Car Exhaust is causing solar flares?
MOD PARENT FUNNY!
Meanwhile, maybe you should read a little more about Green House Gases [nationalpost.com]...
I'll get modded down, but it's worth it (Score:3, Funny)
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered w
The high activity may repeat in two weeks (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The high activity may repeat in two weeks (Score:2)
Re:The high activity may repeat in two weeks (Score:2, Funny)
This... this is what's wrong with education today! They don't teach young'uns anything anymore!
Re:The high activity may repeat in two weeks (Score:3, Funny)
Are we sure... (Score:3, Funny)
That darn 486 (Score:5, Funny)
Next we'll see cloned sunspots from AMD and Cyrix, followed by a massive rebranding campaign by Intel...
Wait. What were we talking about again?
Solar Chili - Take 2 (Score:4, Funny)
The more you burn, gravity can let it toot
The more you toot, the better your feel
So burn Hydrogen in every nuclear meal!
In Space...nobody can smell your vapors
-1 Troll (I wish I could think of something to post)
-1 Overrated (I wish my ADD would let me read and absorb all of this...functional illiteracy doesn't help either)
Could this be from a colission? (Score:2, Insightful)
Is the sun moving into some more active part of the galaxy recently, are we in the tail of some massive previous event? Are other stars in the neighborhood showing signs of duress?
Here's a good Q&A (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Could this be from a colission? (Score:5, Interesting)
Highly unlikely. The heat from the Sun would vaporise anything long before impact.
Flares (including this one) tend to be linked with sunspots which are relatively cool (emphasis on the relatively there) areas of the Sun. The Sun is made of plasma - super-hot electrically-charged particles. The plasma convects, transferring energy to the surface of the Sun. As the plasma moves it creates enormous magnetic fields. Normally these are confined within the body of the Sun, but occasionally, the magnetic flux extends beyond the surface of the Sun as an enormous loop. At each point where the line emerges and re-enters the Sun are a group of sunspots.
Hot plasma streams along the line of flux, it usually confined to the magnetic flux, but occasionally it will break away as a so-called prominence.
Flares are relatively common, but their cause is not yet understood (if any solar activity experts are hanging around - please feel free to step in right about now :)). From memory, the most well-regarded theory is that ever-increasing amounts of energy is stored in the magnetic fields of the sun spot. As the field becomes twisted and tangled, the energy continues to build until a point when the magnetic field snaps back into a less-tangled state. At that point an enormous amount of energy and plasma are blasted into space in a very short period of time.
Best wishes,
Mike.
No. Here's a little size comparison for ya... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Could this be from a colission? (Score:3, Interesting)
What it means to me (Score:2, Funny)
TiVo recordings of shows received from satellite TV might be interrupted.
Re:What it means to me (Score:2)
then again Im not a astro physicist(cant even spell the thing)
Re:What it means to me (Score:2)
Too bad it isn't heading this way (Score:5, Interesting)
It's been a decade since last I saw any.
Re:Too bad it isn't heading this way (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, actually if I did it would be a really bad thing so I hope I don't...
Re:Too bad it isn't heading this way (Score:3, Informative)
I live in southern Germany, and last Thursday night at about 10:00 pm CET was absolutely the most spectacular auroral display - the whole northern section of the sky was bright red/orange with streaks of bright light fading in and out that looked like searchlights.
The whole thing was over in 45 minutes to an hour, but definitely unforgettable...
Re:Too bad it isn't heading this way (Score:2)
Re:Too bad it isn't heading this way (Score:2)
Solar Flares (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Solar Flares (Score:2)
(Hey, I'm not saying it's not necessarily the case...)
Re:Solar Flares (Score:3, Funny)
I mean it's OBVIOUSLY a conspiracy between a few trillion tons* of hydrogen and some scientists to cheat the taxpayers out of money! The nerve of these stars sometimes....
* I have no idea how heavy the sun actually is (and I don't particularly care)
Re:Solar Flares (Score:5, Funny)
Tough noogies.
Useless informational post:
The sun's weight is one solar mass. Have a nice day.
Weight vs. Mass (Score:3, Insightful)
No, no, no! The sun's mass is one solar mass, or 2*10^30 kg, according to this page [sunblock99.org.uk].
But its weight is a different matter entirely. Weight is a force, which means it should be measured in Newtons. Weight also requires the influence of a gravitational field. Since the Sun is in orbit around the center of the galaxy, and in free fall, it is weightless.
(Well, actually, the Earth ''does'' pull on the sun some, so we can calculate its "weight" in the Earth's gravitational field independently of its "weight"
even bigger then 20 (Score:3, Interesting)
"I'd take a stand and say it appears to be about X40 based on extrapolation of the X-ray flux into the saturated period," DeForest told SPACE.com.
That estimate may even be conservative, he said
x40.. holy crap.. and that number might be low
Re:even bigger then 20 (Score:2)
Piffle, I ditched my old 40x ages ago *flaunts my ASUS 52x*.
Re:even bigger then 20 (Score:2)
X Whatever!
Re: X scale (Score:2)
The numbers after the letters range from 0 to 20 so there are C5, M17, X8 etc.
My question is this: What do the numbers mean? Is it like the richter scale ( powers of 10 ) or what?
Re: X scale (Score:2)
Re: X scale (Score:4, Informative)
X-Ray flux is measured in Watts per square meter (averaged out over a period of time, usually over a minute).
10^-8 is the lower threshhold of an A-Class
10^-7 is the lower threshhold of a B-Class
10^-6 is the lower threshhold of a C-Class
10^-5 is the lower threshhold of a M-Class
10^-4 is the lower threshhold of a X-Class
10^-3 is the lower threshhold of a X10-Class
10^-2 would be the lower threshhold of an X100-Class
So, the X-28 flare saturated the detectors of the GOES satellites with 0.0028 W/m^2 energy.
Re:What X?? class would cook Earth (Score:3, Informative)
Is anyone worried about this? (Score:2)
Re:Is anyone worried about this? (Score:2)
--RJ
Re:Is anyone worried about this? (Score:2)
There are gazillions (technical term) of stars and I'd bet no two are equal.
We can't even predict tomorrow's weather here on earth with very good accuracy and though I predict that there are more meteorologists than solar phycisists you're confident the sun is just having one of those weeks.
Yeah, Because... (Score:2)
My bet is God is Angry about SCO. I expect that there's going to be a lot of smiting going on Real Soon Now. Keep an eye out for old guys building arks.
Is it just me, or... (Score:2)
Cool word! (Score:4, Interesting)
eructation ( P ) (-rk-tshn, rk-)
n.
The act or an instance of belching.
Source: The American Heritage(R) Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright (C) 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
sun cam (Score:3, Informative)
According to Space.com: The image is generated by the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft, which sits partway between Earth and the Sun.
So big it exceeds capacity (Score:5, Interesting)
M-class solar flares' order of magnitude is 10e-5W/squared meter, X-class' is 10e-4W/ squared meter, and anything beyond 10e-3W/squared meter
- was unheard of until a few days ago.
- is a Y-class MEGA FLARE! Tin-foil hat time.
On unrelated news, X-Plane [x-plane.com] now supports borealis auroras...
Waitaminute (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, Fight Club-style apocalypse, the temporary collapse of civilization for at least a month or so until order could be restored, that kind of thing, yes? Anything not in a Faraday cage blown to Hell and gone, etc.?
Does that about describe the situation we just missed? If so, can we please, please find some way to artificially induce exactly that situation?
--Ryv
Is this the world ending (Score:2)
Perhaps this is a precursor?
The sky is falling!
Re:Is this the world ending (Score:2)
I feel fine
Any girl want to have sex before the end cums!!
anomalous! (Score:5, Funny)
The probability of this happening is a double secret statistical anomaly.
Re:anomalous! (Score:3)
GOES Graph Showing Saturation (Score:3, Informative)
http://cyberial.com/images/cme.gif
Pretty impressive saturation!
Astronomy picture of the day (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Astronomy picture of the day (Score:2)
End Of The World Is Nigh! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! (Score:3, Funny)
<sarcasm>
The sun is angry; we are doomed. These flares are just the beginning, they will increase in magnitude until they are so big, they penetrate the Earth's magnetic field, destroy the entire ozone layer and sanitize the surface of the Earth with UV rays - just like an autoclave. [mira.org] Not even bacteria will survive except underground and deep in the Ocean.
The signs are showing, this is the END OF THE WORLD! The sun has been showing more activity since 1940 than it has for the last 1000 years put together. [newscientist.com] Doom is imminent!
Scientists don't act worried, they think they understand the sun and how it works, but science it just guesses. Maybe the sun is made of iron instead of hydrogen [pairlist.net] where would all the theories that say we are safe be then, if such a basic 'fact' about the sun turned out to be wrong?
As the flares grow in size and number you will all see that my theory is correct! "What is my theory?" you ask. It is that since the END OF THE WORLD makes a good movie plot point, that it must be happening NOW! These are going to be interesting times... We should all start storing canned food and porno mags in bomb shelters now before it's too late and we get cooked by the MASSIVE RADIATION STORM!
And what if the sun should stop flaring, and I should get proven wrong. WE ARE STILL DOOMED! In the same way that load from a light socket makes the generators in a power plant harder to turn, so geomagnetic storms transfer the kinetic energy of megatons of speeding charged particles directly to the magmatic dynamo at our planet's core. Small purturbations can affect this chaotic fluid flow in unpredictable ways but the most worrying is that the shock from the kinetic energy of all those particles will cause avalanches at the core/mantle boundary [lbl.gov] this will cause massive vulcanism that will cover the earth with lava!
If that doesn't get us, terrorists wielding viruses [organicconsumers.org] will.
Get out your sandwich board and whisky! Walk the streets and warn! THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!!!!
<sarcasm>
Entire sun flashes (Score:2)
Maybe it's just the satellite reacting to interference? I have no idea but it fuels my irrational paranoia that all of humanity i
This is unexpected. . ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Floods, Earthquakes, Heatwaves, Plagues, Mad Cows, Wildfires and Hurricanes in odd locations, anyone? Sure, this stuff happens, but all within such a short period of time?
Mind you, I doubt very much that the Earth is in any danger from the recent Solar activity. A few power problems, perhaps. (Not like those are anything new these days, either.)
It's the asteroid impacts, I expect, which could cause the, um, deepest impression.
No need to be afraid. It's happened before, it'll happen again. Kick back and enjoy the show. It's why you're here.
Oh, and the deadline for getting the heck out of the U.S. is rolling ever nearer. The government has been quietly re-staffing [salon.com] draft boards. [guardian.co.uk] But then nobody listens to the tin-foil hatter. It's easier to laugh than to actually do something.
Knowledge protects. Ignorance endangers.
-FL
Re:This is unexpected. . ? (Score:3, Informative)
solar wind power? (Score:3, Interesting)
How about we send a bunch of satellites into LSO (low solar orbit), within the orbit of Mercury, with solar photocollectors powering their wait. When a flare does come by one or more of them, a large, diaphanous electromagnetic antennae are charged by the approaching particle storm, converting the power into electricity, which charges a laser array. The lasers fire from the "lucky" satellite into a power grid among all the satellites. The satellites nearest the Earth fire the power at a receiver on the Moon, which charges a gigantic battery bored beneath the surface. Over months or years, lower powered lasers send the power to collector platforms floating on the seas, which send electricity over cables to the electric grid on land.
Sure, we'd have to wait years before a flare was captured. And it likely would destroy at least one of the satellites capturing it. But there would be several seconds during which the satellite could capture more joules of power than consumed since we invented fire. So after a patient wait, playing the odds, we'd win the solar lottery. If we started now, repurposing all that expensive, dead-end Star Wars spacewar technology, we might be ready by 2020. Then we could power not just our homey little Earth, but all our exploration/communication needs within the planetary systems.
strongest. sunflare. ever. (Score:2)
Sun flames (Score:2)
Helioeccentric (Score:5, Funny)
Sol: I'm sorry. I was late. I was having lunch.
I need to talk about your flare.
Sol: Really? I have 15 spots on. I, uh, (shows him)
Well, ok, 15 is minimum, ok?
Sol: Ok.
Now, it's up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum. Well, like Sirius, for example, has 37 pieces of flare. And a terrific smile.
Sol: Ok. Ok, you want me to flare more?
Look. Sol.
Sol: Yeah.
People can get a sunburn anywhere, ok? They come to Earth for the atmosphere and the attitude. That's what the flare's about. It's about fun.
Sol: Ok. So, more then?
Look, we want you to express yourself, ok? If you think the bare minimum is enough, then ok. But some suns choose to flare more and we encourage that, ok? You do want to express yourself, don't you?
Sol: Yeah. Yeah.
Great. Great. That's all I ask.
Sol: Ok.
The obvious response (Score:2)
Region 486 (Score:5, Funny)
Thank goodness it wasn't from the Pentium IV region, or even the extremely Hot Athlon XP region, we'd be burnt to a crisp. Damn solar over-clockers, If they burn out this sun, where are we gunna get another one? The bidders have been grabbing them up on ebay like hotcakes.
Can't believe nobody metioned Nostradamus yet! (Score:2, Funny)
X28 Popups (Score:3, Funny)
Maybe the Sun wasn't getting enough response from its X-10 popups?
Re:FP!!!! (Score:2)
Maybe to serve as an exemple to others?
Taken from despair.com
Re:OMG THE SUN IS DYING!!!! (Score:2)
Re:OMG THE SUN IS DYING!!!! (Score:2)
Re:I for one... (Score:2)
(gotta protect the boys)
Re:Morlocks unite! (Score:2)
should you wish to arm yourself.
Re:how long? (Score:2)
Soace Station denizens (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Soace Station denizens (Score:3, Informative)
No they don't. It takes about 8 1/2 minutes for light to get from the Sun to the Earth. By the time someone on Earth knows about it, that 8 1/2 minutes have already passed -- we find out about it when the light reaches us; which, is the same time the x-rays and gamma reach us...
Even if Soho is way out ahead of us, it still takes the same amount of time for the signal to travel from Soho to Earth as it does for the